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we are from ukraine and insure our machines online on hotline finance hotline finance insurance of course online glory to ukraine this is a program verdict my name is serhii rudenko good day and good health to everyone, today is the 173rd day of heroic resistance to the russian occupiers, the enemy continues to shell nikopol zaporizhzhia with rockets kharkiv-mykolaiv and destroy civilian infrastructure in donetsk and luhansk regions at the same time the ukrainian military attacked the headquarters of the wagnerites in popasna as of august 15, russia has already lost 43,750 people in the war with ukraine

in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine eliminated 200 invaders at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine, 1,876 tanks, 4,141 armored combat vehicles, 985 artillery systems, 261 rocket salvo systems, 136 air defense systems, 23 three planes, 195 helicopters, 318 units of automotive equipment, 15 qatari ships, 177 cruise missiles, 787 drones, 92 units of special equipment, as noted by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, the enemy suffered the greatest losses in the donetsk region

. contact us ella libanova, professor, doctor of economics, academician of the national academy of sciences of ukraine, director of the institute of demography and social research of the national academy of sciences of ukraine ms. ella, have a good day good health thank you for participating in our broadcast good day, ms. ella, you somehow called the war in the east, which began in 2014, postponed the war for independence, because for 30 years we were building the country however, a decisive battle for our independence was postponed precisely for 30 years and on february 24, vladimir putin launched a large-scale war against ukraine, the final battle for ukrainian independence, what in your opinion prompted putin to go to a large-scale war in 2022

he felt that he was already losing the final ukraine . no, come on, i will not click on putin's head, but what lies on the surface of the 22nd year, december 30 will be the centenary of the formation of the ussr. this is very important for him, plus before that, not only he, but everyone understood that ukraine is moving away from russia, it is moving away not territorially, of course, but

mentally, and this is more important than joining nato, the european union, and so on, ukrainians started en masse to understand that they are not russians, that ukraine is not russia, and this certainly should not worry such a collector of lands. well, at least i cannot give another explanation, but you see what is happening, he wanted to collect a mini-ussr by the centenary of the ussr. well, actually, there is only the so-called union state between to belarus and to russia, that's all that is currently annexed crimea, the so-called lpr and dpr, but during these six months, vladimir putin did everything to make sure that the number of people who, hmm, it's so clear that they are not on

the way from russia, increased in ukraine, what is this number i'm generally uh, i'm sorry, it's a very expensive price, but no one has done so much for the unity of the ukrainian nation, putin, we paid a fantastic price for it, it's true, but as a result, we got a completely unexpected high rate of unity, we really became a single nation today, i'm not convinced that it will remain after the war for a very long time at this level, most likely it will not remain, but less so today we have what we have and the support of the authorities and the support of the direction of the development of the state and simply understanding that the residents of kyiv region kharkiv oblasts, transcarpathia and vinnytsia regions are

formed by one nation, and kherson and kherson regions definitely yes , and mykolaiv oblasts, yes. that is, we can state that vladimir putin himself killed russian peace in ukraine. in my opinion, it is absolutely more than that that he is consistently killing it in russia. look at the panel, the current war - this is the third war in the last 110 years. the first world war . did not live in wartime conditions or in survival conditions, do you agree with the opinion that the current war is the finale not only of these 110 years, but also

the finale of 300 or 400 years since ukraine and ukrainians have been trying to choose their independence, their freedom well, in the end break away from the russian federation or russia at that time, you know . my grandmother always when there were family gatherings, she always said that there would be no war. and i, well, i promise peaceful times. i once asked her, well, why do you talk all the time about the war, and she told me i said you don't understand, but now i understand. i would really like this war to be the last, so i'm an optimist , but not so much, but still look, well, it's clear that our nation, which has been

fighting for its independence for 300-400 years, and especially i mentioned those 110 uh years uh in the 41st year we were attacked from the west in 2014 we were attacked from the east how does this generally affect ukrainians and the prospects of the ukrainian people how does it affect our children and our grandchildren and our mothers and our grandmothers and our great-grandmothers were all in the war or were caught the war is definitely a genetic memory, you can't get away from it, it exists, it really exists, and i think that the holodomor will continue to be a sign for a very long time, because the holodomor and collectivization will be all in the 38th year, but you know there is a problem of the

coexistence of different peoples today there are a lot of questions about how we co-exist with the germans and do not want to co-exist with the russians. in fact , it took the germans many years, maybe ten years . years and when their chancellor knelt in warsaw, it was a symbol of their maid. i don't see any signs of hints that the russians understand their

guilt in what is happening now, more than that, today, yesterday or the day before yesterday. well, a few days ago , they started broadcasting videos from multifeed you know, what offended me there was the lack of understanding that it was not us who attacked them, but it was they who attacked us in general, and in this sense, i don't know what should happen, not that we should see them, not about that now, but in general, so that we can normally the question is how we should coexist with them, because having such an obsessive stupid neighbor on the doorstep of your house who can break into your house, kill you, rape your wife and, uh, you

too, yes, it is also very big a challenge for ukrainian society, what to do next with them? you correctly mentioned the germans, as a few years ago i was in leipzig and at the book festival, and there one of the big topics was devoted to this remorse of the germans before the world community. they are not they understand this and how many years have passed, you understand why, but there is a reason, although they taught more before us, for some reason before the russians, i can’t understand this, and because probably by 2014 and even by 2022, many people going to the west identified or at least perceived we looked at ukraine and russia as one thing with you, i am not about the government, i am about myself and you, why did we

not try to convey this effectively, maybe our voice was not heard, but at least it should have been done since 1991 for 30 years had to they heard shouting then and we quietly, it’s like that, well, by the way, about the russians, putin is personally now calling for the russians to support the army that kills in ukraine, this narrative is also being heard more and more often by the power of the screens, let’s watch a small fragment and then continue our conversation like this a what would you pay attention to, because the country lives an ordinary peaceful life, the summer, the holiday season, the cultural life of exhibitions, and the guys are plowing there under

bullets, you understand life, they risk their lives, and the comrades of their trees in battle are happy. i am your family. why is that there ? it is necessary to address to you the deputy. it is necessary for a nationwide trip to support the armed forces. it is important for our soldiers to feel this support . of course, they deserve to speak . the country knew the country. the creature is sick, it is clear and a cold-blooded killer, but there are 140 million russians who think well, if not 140, then 139 million definitely think like him, uh, we already talked about the germans, that the germans passed this stage but after the war the germans were forcibly taken to the cinema they showed what the germans did in the concentration camps and 140 million showed how

heroically the etipashut couple in ukraine killed the neighboring people and what to do with them, how to return the city back, i will not show them how they rape women and children, no one shows them the truth is they are shown how they heroically defend and take or something else, so let's not underestimate the importance of the first, the second, they worked purposefully with the germans for about a dozen years. until they finally understood something, and by the way, i'm not convinced that that's all. they understood, thirdly, there is a different language that works during

wartime during peacetime, believe me, after our victory, the language will be different and their understanding will be different , and fourthly, no country simply got rid of the feeling, even my very beloved britain, she was going through it very hard today, russia must understand that there is no russian empire, there is no soviet union, where it played a leading role, and not only does it not exist, but it will not be very difficult for them to come to terms with this, i am not about them, i do not offer them to understand

them, to justify the deities, i simply offer an explanation their behavior is all based on your feelings. so when did the russians turn into fascists because what they are doing now is natural fascism. did they always have it in their souls or was it brought up in the last 20 years or did it intensify in the last eight years? i just read what serious people wrote about the behavior of the soviet army in germany, what has changed, what has changed, how they carried furniture and jewelry, paintings, well, they carry them, well, then they carried paintings, now they carry toilets, well, such a

change in mentality is possible, or culture as they raped women so silhouette that nothing has changed well then there was already the soviet union that's why russia give an explanation to the students russia is different and who was in the soviet union okay but but paniela now propaganda tv channels show how putin communicates with seven wounded soldiers heroes the horse talks about how these heroes later tears are also shed, there is also a small plot so that you and our tv viewers can see what is happening in the country next to us,

well, obviously, the russians are trying to get everyone else's emotions and show that these are the defenders, although they are invaders, of course, everything is turned upside down, this whole ideology is propaganda, it makes us fascists, russians, people who defend their state and yet, can you believe this sociology? although i do not believe russian sociology at all, but they say that 80% citizens there support putin in the war with ukraine. well, i'm not

convinced that 80, but what's more, i'm absolutely convinced, in fact, you have to believe, unfortunately, they support him, they actually support him, and the support is very high. that's why everything is not so simple. no matter what we do, no matter how we behave, but they will be our neighbors and we need to think about how to rebuild, not build our er relations, now there are a lot of er calls on the account of the example of israel, i am convinced that it will work because in israel the environment is low-tech, but here, well, after all, the technology is at least at our level, well, there is what there is, but

we will have to live together, there is nothing here, nowhere . and also the next generation will be our children, and you know the calls for the destruction of the russian empire as such do not make me very happy either, because it means that various weapons, including nuclear ones, will fall into more hands, i am not convinced that this is unfortunately, unfortunately, we have lost connection with alla libanova i hope that we will now restore this connection, she is a professor, doctor of economic sciences, academician of the national academy of sciences of ukraine , director of the institute of demography and social research of the national academy of sciences of ukraine well

and in the meantime, friends, i encourage you to subscribe to our youtube channel, as well as to facebook, to the e-e page, to other social networks, those who are watching us live on the air, you can like it and also take part in our voting. it is on the right if you are watching us now on the screen, if you are watching us on a smartphone, this is a vote below this stream, we are talking today with mrs. ella about the society that has formed at this moment in russia well, of course, we are talking about what and how ukrainian society will continue to develop, because it is absolutely obvious that there will be no return to february 23, 2022. and it is already obvious that after six months of war, society is changing. ukraine is changing . the majority of ukrainians are still living in the days of

february 24, because it was a big shock for everyone. ukrainians and how much time do you think should pass for ukrainians to realize that there is no way back and we are no longer february 24th and not february 23rd that today is already august 15th and ahead a completely different life completely different ukraine yes no how long i i think that everyone is aware of this. to be honest, i have no doubts about this. well, there is the latest survey conducted by the rating group, one of the few sociological structures that still try to conduct surveys. you can argue about various things there, but 98.8% of ukrainians believe in our victory . well, that's what it's about, of course

, but on february 23, if you asked this question, 98% wouldn't have it. that is, we have already crossed the line when people tried to somehow, well, understand whether there will be a life like it was on february 23. this is what i meant. i think that everyone understood that the life that was 23 this will no longer exist in the sense of contacts with russia. and we got rid of the inferiority complex, and this applies not only to russians, but also to europeans. the fact that today i receive the information that i receive from people who are abroad well, it says a lot. moreover, i do not mean

only information from ukrainians fleeing the war . but i mean information from, say, school directors. where did ukrainian children of university rectors end up, not directly, but still mediated information from the ministers of education, information that comes from the military. practically everyone says that the image of ukrainians in their eyes has fundamentally changed, and our image has changed against the background of europeans. went to the west. they began to understand

that we are really ukraine, that ukraine is a fairly developed country, because when we know each other, they say that it is impossible to have an operation there, where all the documents are impossible to get to the doctor during the day there. it is impossible for two to open a bank account in the privat24 application, let's hope that this is not an advertisement for privatbank, it will be now uh, open it anywhere, you can, yes, yes well, i mean that uh, only now people understand how comfortable and convenient ukraine was. now we are engaged in advertising the ministry numbers, we are engaged in the advertising of the ukrainian state and we call on all ukrainians to look at this state in a different way, because those who remained in ukraine still have to hear about what people say

got to western europe to western europe or to other countries, you know, this is just a reaction to the fact that today a lot of people got there not as tourists because, well, what is a tourist? he came to it a lot , well, a lot. spend this money nicely , relax there 35:45 he lives in a hotel and everything else is one impost of a ukrainian, the second was empty - they were ukrainian wage earners who left solely for the purpose of earning and they agreed to a number of qualified jobs, they agreed to a lot what to do and people with a high level

of education left here, the germans talk about the fact that 70% of our world , that is, you communicate saying that this is a part about the fact that our women have competitive on those labor markets. where did they come, and to be honest, well , they all talk about they have dignity, they do not agree to work that does not satisfy them, and today the image of ukrainians is being formed as ukrainian women , perhaps as an image of a representative of a

democratic, qualified, intelligent nation that is not inferior to anyone, and our children are also europeans enter school and our children demonstrate, well, considering what you say, mrs. ella, how long will it take for people to adapt to that society and how long will it take for us not to lose them, it is practically the same time, you know in fact, i am afraid that the second school year will

unfortunately be decisive in this sense, because women with children went. these children go to kindergartens and preschools. they left for the middle of the last school year. someone started studying there. someone has not started yet. more started from september 1, well, depending on the national programs, the first one is a little bit different, they will go to schools after that it will be extremely difficult to get them to return but now i will say a very unpopular thing but i have to say, you know, we don't have to fight so much for their return, how much for the formation of such you know, mr. ukrainian universe, we say