tv [untitled] August 15, 2022 2:30pm-3:01pm EEST
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everything would be fine for russia, but until some people sober up and see, others can go crazy from everything that they see and observe from what russia is doing to ukraine and to ukrainians. uh, in the history of the world , there are hundreds of countries that existed for someone, now they are gone, and civilization continues and if ukraine does not cope with the challenges for ukrainians, it will disappear from the map of the earth . well, god forbid, i don’t believe everything. nothing to you it will happen, the world will continue to exist. therefore, we must understand that everything depends only on us and we , er, in this war, we must grit our teeth. well, let's say, keep this tension until russia is the first to give up the war - that's exactly what putin is about, and that's why
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today, the nsdc reported that russian troops strike civilian objects 60 times more often than military ones , that is, he deliberately destroys our infrastructure, expecting a long winter, he hopes that we know ukrainians, we are such a very emotional nation er, we consider er, a small victory, and we fall into complete betrayal from small defeats, and he hopes that in winter ukraine will destroy this infrastructure for us. some kind of peace. i think he is. i hope not. we military personnel want to believe and we believe that those ukrainians who are behind us understand these challenges and are preparing for them and will endure them as well as we do in the war. i
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think i it seems that putin is distinguished by what he is constantly wrong in his assessments of the ukrainians in particular and the reaction of the west from the very beginning, but surely you should not underestimate the enemy either, because we often also fall into this sin . of our genius leonid danygovich yes, when someone once wrote the immortal work by the ukrainians of russia, then they caused us a bigger smile, yes, and we will go further. center, though he doesn’t say. in which somewhere in the south, he says that nobody’s documents are checked at the checkpoints. and when the air-raid alarm sounds, people don’t hide in basements or bomb shelters, that’s
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true as far as i can see. sometimes i eat there, the higher headquarters, well julia observes such things, we are our safety, we are later when a rocket hits the shopping center, the shopping center is full of people, that's when we start breaking down there and cursing everyone. our trait is like that it will be difficult in europe. i think. well, nevertheless, ukrainians also learn quickly. i hope that they will also learn well. andriy. you have a question. actually , the antonov bridge was damaged, and there were blows again, and in general, they write about that in general, if the troops in kherson were russian in kherson, they are actually already cut off from serious supplies
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there or from the possibility of quick evacuation there, yes, is there really? oh, no, he appeared, then someone must have called you. but i am all under the influence, in fact after reading an interview with taras, why is tom who says that a journalist asks him what we need to win and he says "we must have brains" and that's how he actually comments on the whole story from the very beginning. what will we have ? experts, and from the representatives of the authorities, one such interesting thing, i will say that, after all, i think that there is also
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the work of the relevant stripes and the armed forces of ukraine , eh, the main task, as far as i know, eh, was to draw the enemy away from the east of ukraine with them, what is there to give our boys can breathe more or less freely. as far as i understand it, we have succeeded in the fact that on any topics, politicians start to promote themselves as if they mean with the flag for the first time in the ranks, they go to silence, yes, it is really annoying sometimes. and we, i will tell you honestly we don't have much i don't have time to look at all this, i think that history and er ukrainians will give an assessment to all public actions, otherwise i can't assess them. i'm not talking about the officials who, let's say, there are the tampo of the ministry of oboro and the early headquarters there. i understand that there is something
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logical, thought out and the planned statement. i am talking more about politicians as such who are trying to adjust to any victory there as if they were there too, life was like that and most likely it will be. the main thing is that people do not lose their minds and soberly evaluate places. of each of the politicians today and in history, the war in syria, which has been going on for 10 years , can certainly also be an example of what the war in ukraine can be. how long can it last? does this mean that for 10 years we are putting a completely political pause on we are putting life on hold some economies are putting changes in society on hold do you agree with that thesis yesterday we had a ukrainian economist on our air eh and eh peker valeriy who said that very often people
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tell him that what they are most afraid of is that after the war, nothing will change in ukraine, is this really the biggest problem, oh great , i will try to answer a bunch of questions asked, because i am actually interested in this too, and i will look. well, first of all, i am sure that we will learn. if this war lasts for 10 years, and maybe after all, in reality, we will learn to live like that israel. yes, i am also impressed by the model of the israeli idea and politics . as for that as for the second question now actually is there the biggest fear of people, including those who are going to the front , it’s so easy for them to change. recently, i had to receive journalists from a prominent
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american publication. they come to us and we are happy to invite them, because the americans should know that in it is happening to us and we talked with former ukrainians who now work in this publication. i tell them, you know, you understand, i am also at war, but how we worry about the fact that society does not change, that the country does not change, so i say with such despair, well, maybe after the war, it will remain the country is like a godfather and this is actually the biggest threat well, what i perceive for myself is well, these are the fears of many of us, and we they say we come to you once every few years, so i will tell you that your country changes very quickly, you you just don't see it and i'm like that well, well, if you say so, i calm myself down well, in fact, i'm also worried about some things about which you say that i don't see changes yet in the radical union of horizontal ties, the relationship of exercise to one's place in
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the state unfortunately, as soon as the front enters away from this city, the city returns, well, at least in the cities where i visit, i really see that a lot of things return from the past life, well, let's see how it will go on. thank you, mr. roman, for the conversation, roman kovalev, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, also told us about what is happening in the south and about what is happening with ukraine and about what he feels about whether the country is moving in the right direction during the war. horizontal connections and in society about whether society is developing correctly yes yes yes i imagined it like this well russian major you understand i dress in stupid and stupid and stupid and why did i come i'm already stupid and i came only for the purpose of stealing very good yesterday, the election newspaper wrote about a hard worker, how does a hard worker differ from some kind of janitor, except that there are always two of them. well
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, a hard worker can also joke and is a fun, classy plaintiff . says zaluzhny, he is not a general who came to rob the army, but russian generals came to the army only for this motivation, these are golden words, what i want to say are changes, for which you can praise, for example, today's deputies three minutes ago as far as i understand, the newly elected members of the supreme council of justice are key body for the further implementation of judicial reform in ukraine, and we congratulate roman maselke, who has been among these members of the judiciary since the first days of the maidan, he dealt with the affairs of all maidan citizens, a person with a very good reputation lawyer, human rights defender, congratulations, and this is good news, good news, and it means that ukrainian society, because yesterday i
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saw a lot of posts among my friends on facebook, in defense of such advocacy, by roman masalka about why should he be there and why should we press this issue ? eh and in general, in the borders that it is his and he does not care, then something like that changes artem ruban , a fighter of the freedom battalion of the national guard from donetsk region, but what is there directions in which actions are being taken, which are actually priorities for russians, in which actions are being taken, the
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city of kharkiv, the northeastern part of the kharkiv region, e.e., bakhmut, the district of the city of avdiyivka, donetsk and southern ukraine, in fact, nothing is new, or is there anything new in that, in that? well, how nothing the problem is that let's say that there are problems with armaments, we are from donetsk, for example, i won't specifically say the location, but i'm just critical, i'm already shouting, there is another problem - the problem is that these days it is extremely difficult for our infantry to keep their shelling, their constant shelling by tanks, uh, systems, hall of fire, according to my opinion,
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aviation five to six times a day, well, almost 24 hours a day, they are shelling from all calibers uh, well, we really hold the uh front on our shoulders that is, the infantry is holding now essentially the front is on their shoulders because er well, i will say it like it is er actually, well, we don't have artillery cover , but it's real in our direction, it's a very specific problem with which we already, well, if only hmm, well, i got a little tired of er that is, because we are constantly asking you to support us with heavy weapons , because our positions are being very hard, we just almost have to dig new positions every day, because it is simply to dust,
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they spread the ground, raise everything, mix it with the ground , and there are losses unfortunately, we really keep everything on on their shoulders and until this problem is solved until uh, that means the infantry will not be covered normally uh, artillery from our because aviation and other heavy weapons will simply have losses and there will be very serious problems then in our armed forces uh, i would like if only they, um, if they heard us and finally they started to cover us properly because we just got to our position yesterday, almost every other day, two packs of hail are coming, we just don't know where it's normal for us to hide, i'm not there in any case i'm not complaining. that is, we came there from severodonetsk and rubezhnoy lysichansky irpen buchu. but
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i just want our armed forces to be involved in our leadership a little more, a little more to help us by covering with heavy weapons , because there are moments when the bull is not enough. there are still some problems and so on and so on. well, damn, there’s not enough bull there, i don’t know if there are any people there, or what you’re giving us. i already said give our battalion heavy weapons, we’ll work ourselves, we’ll become artillerymen ourselves well, that is, if you can't cover us, give us weapons, we'll learn and cover ourselves, because it's hard to fight now, it's really hard to cover with your bodies, the infantry is covering with their bodies now, in fact , at the cost of their own lives. it's great there,
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everything is fine, but here, unfortunately, not everything is very good , that's why we really need the cover of heavy weapons right now, because the tanks work like that with an interval there, uh, i don't know, 15-20 seconds, they just spread it all around well, no realistically no, he is forced to change positions seven times. the legion of freedom as part of the national guard has always worked, and will work, always carried out and where to carry out orders. to give us cover for the heavy with heavy weapons is really difficult for us right now and well , we need help for the heavy because it is difficult let’s say a little like this, i will explain why there is no heavy
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weapons is it because the russian aviation now it works quite freely there, we don’t have a very difficult direction, and the problem is that the air defense works. yes, then the air defense works, that’s why our aviation is there, if you don’t fly there now. they are all so sad, well, it is meant in the plan, uh, why can't they use heavy weapons there, and they can be used very successfully, well, i don't know, we keep saying that we are just being disassembled for spare parts, uh, our positions tell us well we don't see him there we don't we can fly there, because there are fish working there, and the trouble is that every day a liar holds these positions at the cost of his own life and bears losses because they cannot reach their
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valeria and theirs and find out where they work if he was already standing here aviation, everything is clear with theirs , yes, it will be. let's go there, eh, as it is, although it is very difficult when you are processed by the aviation, but when you are processed for 24 hours, the 152-caliber arta, we, when you are processed by a tank with an interval of 15-20 seconds , destroys everything, well it is very difficult let's say so in in such conditions, you should keep it when there are none. moreover, there are no normal places to hide. well, let’s say it’s not urban fighting, it’s a little different, and in the conditions of the city, there are completely different battles here. it won't be. well, it will be sad. let's say that's why we were heard
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and what was included was the normal cover of the artillery. artem retreated to some more protected defense lines. that's because the infantry works it was always so that it was covered, it has always been the case that the infantry was covered, unfortunately, i am talking about you, they are not covered, and it is very sad, that is why i want them to finally hear us and give us normal cover , i cannot give it, give us weapons, we will cover ourselves , give us heavy weapons we will cover ourselves if there are no weapons if there is no cover and there will be an order to retreat you will fulfill the order we will not retreat thank you
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mr. artem for this story we are giving it in this way of course and i really hope that the command can find opportunities to ease the situation, in fact, our infantry always works under cover, this is competent, this is reasonable. well, if the infantry will hold the front at the cost of their own lives, now, well, sooner or later we must understand that these people will run out and who will be in that place now probably not the prices themselves, not the weapons, but the valuable guys and people who are standing there now, everyone who is standing there now, i will tell you yes , this is a hero there, in that place where i stand, these are people, heroes are just boys to me almost every day i have to see, uh, one of them has a program, and
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having died, that's why i say once again that the infantry must be covered. well, you can't work like that. you can't behave like that, you have to give us normal cover. we're not asking for much, we're just asking to cover us. where do the tankers work, work on them, find them well, we don't have such weapons we don't have eyes so that we can fly in and see where they work are we asking a lot we don't complain, nothing there doesn't retreat, we just simply say that will you
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too empty, these people are just keeping calm now with their lives, this is a very difficult situation. i understand it and it is not obvious that the command of the general staff also sees this, and i hope that there are no political moments here. there are only some moments that are necessary and expedient from the point of view of the general staff and somehow it will be resolved, it was artem ruban, a fighter of the freedom battalion of the national guard eh who is in donetsk region eh he told us about what is happening at their positions eh before we contact the next of guests, our next guest is a military expert and colonel of the armed forces of ukraine anatoliy
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kravchuk eh and we will also talk in general about points before the news release, so i think it's this. well, this is probably the most important issue right now, which is worth commenting on. now we're waiting until, uh, we have an established connection. good day to you just now in front of you, we started a conversation with a soldier of the freedom battalion. and he told us that they need cover because the artillery because the enemy works on them with tanks every 10-15 seconds will already be equal to 10 days, so if we
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heard correctly because unfortunately the communication was broken, and they simply have to change their positions all the time because they are simply leveled with the ground and it is very difficult to restrain the enemy in such conditions. this time in six months have already destroyed a fifth of the units of the russian federation and emphasized that we are conducting combat operations on a length of 1,300 km of the front . equal commanders-in-chief, and moreover,
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they are trying to decide, uh, we see, we will receive constant reinforcements, but we still do not have enough artillery to resist hmm, in fact, on such a, you know, very powerful equal russian artillery that shoots thoughtlessly and wastes ammunition simply without counting and all this despite the fact that during this time uh you look at us actually every night every day lower some of their formations deep in the rear and anyway it uh them allows you to carry out in some specific directions very powerful dead-cutter attacks , that's why they, you see, they have already switched to a different pace of battle, they no longer take such big directions as it was before, well, in the direction severodonetsk lysychansk, they are now clinging to each other
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for a small town like opiski and they level them to the ground, but in the grand scheme of things, our fighters who were in lysychansk and in north donetska were in the same way in pisky, and when this artillery fire is conducted every day and continuously, it is definitely very difficult to withstand it, and i still once i say this, i understand everything, this is the general staff and is trying to solve this problem as much as possible, so there are definitely problems, but it is being solved. can we say that simply because of the length of the front, in fact, we cannot provide coverage of all sections, and how can the russians do it, you are absolutely right. i did not emphasize this 1,300 km for nothing, and it is only necessary to think about these numbers. but you see how the russians themselves are still doing it, they, er, tried this until recently after they uh,
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they switched from severodonetsk, they started to shift all their forces from izyumsk to kramatorsk direction to slavyansk, but they didn't get anything there, literally, but for a month they tried something there, they tried, they didn't do anything , now uh, we pulled away a lot of their forces to the south why because actually there is the same situation we took, created, escalated not very much and almost 20,000 russian troops have now moved to the right bank and in fact, if we now finally destroy this antonov bridge, on which not even civilian e avtivka then uh, we thus simply cut off their cash registers and they remain closed steppe good soldiers but this is important for us uh and from the point of view that very significant forces were pulled out from the donetsk direction, so here they are realized that they
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can't do anything in the kramatorsk slavyanskyi direction in the izyum direction. we even have the opportunity to enter the counter-offensives, to conduct some counter-offensive actions, and we are leading them there a little at a time, and they see that now they have thrown all their forces at avtivku palinka pressure so it turns out that there uh, in fact, these cities that were in such a difficult situation in 14 uh, it's precisely the front uh, we can't react very promptly, uh, it's easier for them, then they all first allow the motor in the direction of slavyansk, there in the kramatorsk direction, i see nothing works, they throw uh, more or less infantry there, and artillery in there are enough of them in any direction, you throw the infantry in another direction, the artillery turns on and
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begins to destroy us there, we need to regroup in order to transfer the artillery there, it takes a lot of time, and the artillery itself is not so much to throw it all over the front and provide it for the entire 1300 km er, at least well, at least some such minimal powerful administration of this er, you know, such equality. that is, it is a difficult situation, i say it again, we know it all, it is not that we close our eyes and say that everything is fine. there is no money there, but audi hold on, if they said in russia, there is no money, but you hold on, the situation is not completely different. we simply understand that today we cannot cope with the amount of artillery that they have, but we still knock out these complex, lower, their artillery means is from our saint artillery, and now it turns out that we simply need more time in order to reach this parity, so that in fact they already have
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