there will be pipes between them, he also mixed them with the boys in the balantura well, he drilled so that it was possible to freely pass under the pipe, not to touch it, so as not to give it away, you see, the average person is enough to get around the shelter, it is designed for 300 places and it is almost the largest in this sleeping area, but the parents they are still afraid to let the children go here . the ministry of defense of russia has repeatedly stated that in the schools of this neighborhood there are armed forces positions, so only 113 children volunteered to attend the school, of course they are afraid because the school is big, they can be provocations, how do you understand? yes, and that is why giving children face-to-face education when, well, it is very scary how the children will behave, and when there will be one or two female teachers for this class, yes, face-to-face education will leave several classes of a low-income school and the graduating class, others will study remotely, but the teachers will work

in the school here has a powerful internet, so online lessons will be conducted from here, and now they have been taught how to act in emergency situations, and our training includes several topics. this is the main algorithm of actions as a result, if something happens to a person, cardiopulmonary resuscitation does not come from them. stopping bleeding. recognizing internal or external bleeding. trauma is the main focus. we make pressing the rhythm of pressing. it should be 100-120 minutes. and for this, you can count. you can turn on some kind of rhythm. in the case of a chemical attack, they also demonstrated mines and cluster munitions with which the russians shelled the area, no

more attention to mines, traps, the plus-minus principle, how much is the same, that is, the explosive substance, find it in toys, it can be three bodies the cap can be a hand grenade, but it is put on a stretcher, the child raises the chick, gets out, triggers valuable things, some equipment, that is, what is interesting to people for safety reasons, the time spent in the school premises will be reduced as much as possible, they will study mathematics, a foreign language, ukrainian language and literature, physics, chemistry and the history of ukraine and so on we are joined by tetyana vakulenko, deputy director of the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education, we congratulate ms. tetyana. good afternoon, i read that most parents and teachers are in favor of children still studying online in online mode of course, it depends on

which region these parents are from. i also want to tell our viewers that we are adding mykola skiba, he is an expert on education at the ukrainian institute of the future . first of all, it will probably depend on the region, where the school is located, on the security situation there and on the readiness of the moles themselves, and probably what the team of the educational institution will act in case of emergency, well , even banal air alarms, because if in school, for example, 300 or 500 students study there, then it also needs to be trained accordingly, how without, say, the crowd, organized in time to

transfer everyone to the shelter well, because it is not an option to study there all the time underground. therefore, it is not so additional challenges additional of the need for education, but here the main question is another, er, actually this is the request of parents that their children study face-to- face. well, in fact, in my opinion, it is not only about the quality of education itself, as such, as a core of knowledge, because it is a certain request for a certain the therapeutic function of the school, that is, a return to some kind of conditional normality and, on the other hand, to be able to have free time without children when someone else takes over their responsibility,

but here tanya, does it necessarily have to be a quartz visual system like well something like that is it possible that it is time for other models that are more flexible, more adapted to the challenges of war , and perhaps more effective for the direct training of ms. tatiana ? absolutely did not have time after we had a few years of the pandemic and the online format, how it affected the education of children, and we can then predict a little how the war will affect the educational level of our children due to the fact that they will have to study again to continue in this format, if we are talking about polls, there have

been many surveys of parents and students about how they perceive the distance education format, how effective it is in their opinion, it is obvious that polls are very important because they form, because they are actually reflections on society's opinion about certain forms of which are insufficient. when we talk about the quality of the neighbor , therefore, you can, the quality of education is measured first of all by what results we will get for us. there is quality of education, the quality of the results of education of the educational process, and we have to talk about the educational achievements of our participants at the moment , unfortunately, we have not yet been able to conduct a huge international study of the quality of education, which in the 22nd year would have answered a lot, in my opinion issues but what we managed to do here is the monitoring of the quality of primary education in viticulture and did not focus on the results of education after the war because it was carried out last year, but we

can see certain aspects regarding the quality of education as a result of the distances and we see that good schools have almost the same the results of the pandemic, eh, actually, they coped with their function and the students coped with the function of education itself, but we see that there are certain schools in a certain area, where the present students lost as a result of distance education and so we see that, for example , girls in rural schools are losing quite a lot as a result of this monitoring and they have not acquired the competences that they should have received, but we also understand that this is a forced measure and if the school had the opportunity she would definitely switch to the visual format because it best allows you to form competences, including through communication, it is

interesting . reasoning that it is possible to study part-time, in principle , it should go to retirement, conditionally speaking, i will ask this today is actually the last day of registration for the special session of the national cartoon of the subject test, who is this test for, how many people signed up, who will participate, tell me a little about it, ms. tatyana let's start again with you now, when we talk about the war, we are talking about the fact that they could and could not conduct traditional entrance exams. i think everyone knows what an external independent assessment is - this is an abbreviation of zno, which is close to for every ukrainian, for every villager, it was impossible to conduct a classic external examination. it was impossible because this is a large paper assessment, which involves the delivery of materials, extremely complex logistics, printing in those materials, protection, each participant was

tested in four or five educational subjects and conducted at the testing point for several hours and, of course, with the situation that currently exists in the country and with the constant risks of airstrikes, it was impossible to carry out all this, that is why it was actually created in april because the ideas were formed and born online new evaluation e-e of three key academic disciplines ukrainian language mathematics is the history of ukraine this is a short test which consists of 20 tasks from each of the named blocks and takes two hours in online mode but in specially equipped testing points for now we have already held the main session testing e.e. were supposed to be evaluated more than 206,000 participants successfully passed the test and received results more than 187,000 participants e.e. we are preparing for the application of my

evaluation sessions and as you already mentioned if the participants did not have time to register for participation in the main or additional assessment session , they never formed registration cards, so august 13-15 is here. today is the last day you can still do it, and in september, then the evaluations will also take place, and they will be able to get the results for admission , and the questions are the same as they were, that is, they are already children familiarized themselves with these questions and prepared their friends. there are different questions. the ukrainian center will publish the so-called demonstration version of the test in april. options that are used at the testing points, that is why our participants often say that it is the same. well, the tasks are different, but we all want to look at what the tests will look like in april and already at the testing point to feel

comfortable, understanding that nothing too special is required, we are talking about the formation of basic competences, we are talking about the fact that the student must show the ability to solve problems, to develop with the tasks of the school program, and actually to get his result, and all that monster well, actually, we understand that the tests are primarily designed for two things, the first is to select the best from those who enter and the second is to prevent corruption opportunities in order to bypass the best. and in this sense, mykola, was this entry company successful this year, have you coped with these tasks, as shown by the main session at the mt, that is, the national subject test, so far it is difficult to judge the process due to the lack of information, but uh, well, according to some separate uh testimony, i see that so in

in general, everything went well and the students got their results, and even more so, this new test passed not only on substantive knowledge, but also on motivation, even to a certain extent on the ability to organize oneself as a person in view of some logistical points, so because there were less in the testing point you need to get to them on time and, well, in the end, this is also a certain selection of those who are ready to continue their studies and those who simply see barriers and impossibility, a lot of entrant students and their parents complained that they are not quite equal because some of them found out what the tasks would be and could already prepare for them, and someone there was preparing for the tasks while

the air raid alarm was sounding and could use this moment to take a look and only then better answer this national test multimedia well actually we see the results the ukrainian center has already published the results of the main session the main session is almost 200,000 participants we have published diagrams with the distribution of participants we can see that there is a statistical difference between the results of different changes i.e. then when there was an air raid, there was no such thing , but the tasks were actually such that they allowed any bunny studied at school to score well studied at school to score quite high results, well , under high results, the size of the results is 160 plus points in a 200-point school at the same time we see that more than 60% of students from every day, from every session , from every block did not receive these 16 + points, and this

indicates that, first of all , there would be such massive falsifications or something else, plus we conducted additional research that concerns this is what a also says about the exaggerated influence of the ukrainian center's use of tasks from previous years, so indeed, in the forms used this year , tasks from previous years were partially used, and we, as we always do, motivate students to familiarize themselves with the tasks of past years because they are of high quality and they really test those competencies that are key in order to continue learning in the future, a participant who knows how to add fractions will also know how to add firewood to a fraction 1/2 and 5/7 and will know how to add e 8-11 and 12:13 and will also know how to add e-e how to solve a problem in which this very aspect will be checked but in

the context of a life situation so that it can still be finally arranged dots above and there were messages, namely, you personally heard from tutors in history that some questions were formulated in this way, not according to the tradition of recent external examinations of recent years, but as if they were taken from there by the minister of education tabachnyk, that is, they appeared there, for example the patriotic war is like that there to the 14th year of the formulation is it true is it no this is a very interesting situation in fact the testing lasted from july 22 to august 4, however we previously published the testing schedule from july 18 to august 10 in order to prevent the enemy from accessing information about where do and do not pass tests in the safety of children from july 18 to 21, test forms appeared en masse on the internet, which

have nothing to do with those test forms that were used in the evaluation, because there was no evaluation yet , they were simply selections from various e manuals by certain authors and they had the logos of the ukrainian center on them. well, that's the whole story. that is, it's a question about how some unscrupulous agencies for preparing for the external examination tried to advertise their product and thus receive a benefit from an honest demand, since they test tasks they knew that they came up with their anti-advertising laws, this is actually a normal first and logical answer to all these stories. and that is, in fact, it was a fairly modern program that corresponded accordingly to the training program in the 21st year, i understand correctly, i can do it . they all passed the test. they all came to the examination. they have good

psychometric characteristics of the tasks about the great patriotic war and about the great leader stalin. there was no such thing as those who found them in similar test forms . er, we will look for the sources of these beautiful test forms, we have already found several sources, i once read an interview, even at an interview, and this is more of a confession of a girl who remained in the occupied litofol, and she talked about the fact that for three years she dreamed of how she would enter kharkiv university and study to become a lawyer, but then the war happened and accordingly all her dreams were simply canceled. is there any information about how many children from the occupied territories are simply left without the opportunity to continue their studies and get an education, they simply cannot to enroll in higher educational institutions due to the fact that they were held hostage by the occupiers. the ministry of

education tried to be very flexible about how to prescribe admission conditions . it is a difficult situation now and how many teenagers can come. one of the reasons for the existence of the special session is that we hope that even more participants can go to the currently controlled territories of ukraine and territories where there are no active hostilities. where possible, hold testing. in addition, for such entrants from particularly dangerous areas, one or two that will allow them to enter without a national subject, unfortunately, we do not have statistics on how many students were able, for example already take the national multiplex test after leaving the territory of, for example, kherson or that territory of kharkiv or mykolaiv oblast of zaporizhzhia until now active hostilities are still going on but we hope that as much as possible and

we hope that they will be able to do it in the shortest possible time, we believe in armed forces of ukraine are interested in the fact that all such children will not only be able to enter emergency universities, but their safety will be studied and safe, well, and finally, i will ask for the very next year, relatively speaking, planning studies since september 1, yes, today there was news that a bas-relief with mikhail bulgakov was removed from the yellow building of the kyiv national university named after shevchenko and actually, none the less, i understand that there is a decision to leave his works in the school curriculum that is, this discussion is still ongoing, what should be kept and what should not be left in the school curriculum, you understand that there was not enough time, for example, there was an opinion that, for now, it is simple to set up a conditional bank on all the

controversial to deal with them after some kind of professional, narrower discussion of people who are well trained for this and will be as well-respected as oksana khvorostina seems to have said . those toxic materials are to be dealt with in this way , mykola, do you welcome this decision, as i understand it so far, children will study bulgakov from september 1 and other problematic authors, because i understand that this is such terrible inertia of thinking and unpreparedness for such steps, er, some drastic ones, even, well, such tragic er, and on the other hand, heroic circumstances that we are in, but speaking er, what to do with

literature and authors, i would draw a watershed, they are just by names and according to the way we teach, that is, do we have a lot of things, and teachers actually offer ready-made answers, or do we teach thinking, that is, what do we teach to reproduce texts? we uh we make it possible to understand what a text is as an essence. how to work with it, how it affects us, or do we just want to act later. we reproduce the names and plots from this text . recent books about what about what history - it can be the history of contexts, and it can be the history of the set of numbers, two processes that continue, that last for a very long time and have relapses,

this is important to understand. but are our teachers sufficiently prepared for this, who would actually gave these contexts because my my example is my stepdaughter, uh, she was a historian teacher at school, and she is the same age as me. decommunization is taking place on may 8, and this is how she explains this context to the children. explains to the children, the children say that may 9 is our victory day, and may 8 is their european victory day, so now we will have two days of victory, i don't know if this war is full-scale, which began on february 24. the authorities are correcting the understanding of those days victories and what kind of holidays are these and what meanings are attached to them, they

hope that thank you so much for the conversation uh, uh, we were different, mykola skyba and tetyana vakulenko talked with them a little about uh, education and what it will look like now from the first of september, we will continue to talk about culture with us serhiy dorofeev, director and artistic director of the shchepkin sumy national academic theater of drama and musical comedy and ex-head of the luhansk regional ukrainian theater, in touch with us on august 14. and this theater presented the first performance on the stage of the sumy national economic theater, a contemporary tragicomedy, who am i for the play marius by marius von meinburg, a theater, a twice-immigrated in 2014, was forced to come to north donetsk, and now, and

now to sumy, i know that in andriy, i already have a question for mr. serhii about the name of the sumy national theater because of the provocation. the name is such shchepkin, of course, the founder of the russian drama school, but is it possible that there is one of the ukrainian founders, or that the sumy national academic theater of drama and musician could be called by their name? uh, and the general director of both theaters, do you have any thoughts about

renaming it? no, i would like to correct you a little , because in fact i am the general director, artistic director of the sumy national theater named after shchepkin, and the luhansk regional and academic ukrainian theater is a theater, it is a separate legal institution with its director and its own trumpet, which is currently, well, in this period. as separate two legal institutions, and precisely on august 12, we started showing plays in sumy because it was uh, well, the theater started work for the first time since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia on the territory of ukraine, that is, well for almost six months, the theater did not receive an audience. and this weekend, this event took place

. so far, it has taken place on the small stage, because it is related to security measures and the conditions that we can provide, taking into account the placement of people in a shelter. and so on, but it has already happened and it is already good because we felt a request from people that it is necessary to start working . with as a spectator and uh well, we can now work thanks to the armed forces of ukraine thanks to the territorial defense we can work and fight on our cultural front, so we started playing performances on august 12 and 13, these were the performances of the sav sumy theater on the 14th as you correctly said in the luhansk theater, a play about shchepkin was shown about shchepkin, now this question

has already been raised frankly and this question is being considered uh well, it is being considered both one way and the other because some part society says that even at the end it is only a russian actor yes, and it is necessary to get rid of both his name and the monument that stands near the theater, and part of society says that shchepkin is still a ukrainian who still needs to be searched because he is taras' best friend shevchenko is the person under whom kotlyarevsky wrote natalka poltavka and uh, this is the person who was one of the first ukrainians who played in ukrainian theaters, so here, in principle, what should be understood in general, i uh, well, my opinion is that it is necessary to connect specialists can determine these issues so

that this does not happen. the situation as well well, of course, it is interesting and really this is some kind of chepkina and what you say. it seems to me that we lack some kind of precedent, that is, that we could use case law somewhere in something, where we could investigate where relatively speaking, the russian ends and the ukrainian begins because well, that's why this question actually seems to me to be survival now for ukrainians to understand their own identity because well, this is a war about identity, we didn't start it, it's a war about identity, even oleksandr phillips, a psychiatrist, very aptly said that this is actually not a war even for ukrainian identity - it is a war for russian identity, that is, russians are fighting for

their own identity in order to understand who they are , because if, relatively speaking, kyiv is in ukraine and ukraine is an independent state. so who are we? this is a very serious question. unfortunately, ukrainians have to answer it instead of russians because, to be honest , there are problems. performances feel like that and you know, uh, many people, well, that is, we started working, we didn't know how, well, how will our uh, well, this uh, showing of performances between the season and because we have not yet opened anniversary season of the sumy theater, but we are not continuing 8 already and we are not continuing the 89th and we did not know how many people would come or whether people would be afraid

to go to the theater. that this request is also er and it is very necessary for people, especially since when er played in the luhansk theater, a lot of people from the luhansk region came, that is, people came up and talked about the fact that yesterday a woman came up to me and said i'm very grateful of the luhansk theater, who came to sumy because i really missed my hometown, she left in 22. during this war, she says, "i missed it , art actually saves me, thank you, mr. serhiy, this is the artistic director of the sumy national academic theater named after shchepkina was with us, eh, then our rtr is being picked up by colleagues from radio liberty, so please bring to your attention what they have prepared on the basis of the wagnerites , the location of which could expose the russians