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we will talk about the economy during the war and new sports. yevhen pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for two hours in the company of favorite presenters about culture during the war. is lena ready to talk about culture during the war? also, dear guests of the studio, we will have volodymyr gryshko today, if all goes well, the events of the day in two hours , vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people in the evening - naispresso good evening we are ukraine unconquered cities of ukraine kremenchuk is a modern industrial giant hardened by hundreds of years of struggle for freedom in cossack times the city was an outpost against the tatars there was a fortress built by the french military engineer guillaume vasser de beauplan kremenchuk was constantly
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at the center of armed conflicts the second half of the 17th century a period of almost continuous wars on these lands during the liberation struggle, kremenchuk fell into the wave of the anti-bolshevik uprising of ataman grigoriev, as a result of the pogrom, 150 people died jews and communists during the years of occupation, the nazis created a network of concentration camps in the city, where over 90,000 civilians and prisoners of war were murdered in two years. even during the war , a museum of local history operated in the premises of the entire synagogue . among the exhibits were sketches by the spanish master bartolome esteban murillo, but at that time they were seen in the last, their fate is currently unknown, today kremenchuk reminds the world that ukraine is fighting not just the occupiers, but absolute evil. but
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regions. at the same time, the ukrainian military attacked the headquarters of the wagnerites in popasnaya. as of august 15, russia has already lost 43,750 people in the war with ukraine, in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine eliminated 200 occupiers at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 1,876 tanks, 4,141 armored combat vehicles, 985 artillery systems, 261 rocket salvo systems, 136 means of air defense 233 planes 195 helicopters 3 17 units of automotive equipment 15 qatari ships 177 cruise missiles 787 drones 92 units of special equipment as noted by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, the enemy suffered the greatest losses in the donetsk direction about the war
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in ukraine reshaping society and what challenges will be faced in front of the ukrainians after our victory over russia, we will talk for the next hour with us on the phone ella libanova professor doctor of economic sciences academician national academy of sciences of ukraine director of the institute of demography and social research of the national academy of sciences of ukraine ms. ella good day to you good health thank you for participating in our broadcast good day ms. ella you once called the war in the east, which began in 2014, postponed the war for independence that for 30 years we were building the country. however, the decisive battle for our independence was postponed precisely for 30 years, and on february 24, vladimir putin launched a
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large-scale war against ukraine, the final battle for ukrainian independence, what in your opinion prompted putin to go to a large-scale war in 2022? he felt that he was losing the final ukraine. putin and it looks quite like this, well, he probably interprets himself as a collector of russian lands, so this is very important for him a-a plus. moreover, not only he, but
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everyone understood that ukraine is moving away from russia, it is not territorially clear, but mentally, and this is more important than joining nato, the european union, and so on, ukrainians massively began to understand that they are not russians, that ukraine is not russia, and this certainly should not worry such a collector of lands. i wanted to collect a mini-ussr for the 100th anniversary of the ussr, well, actually, there is only the so-called union state between belarus and russia, that's all that is currently annexed crimea, there are the so-called lpr and dpr, but during these
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six months, vladimir putin did everything to make the number those people who hmm let me say that it is so clear that they are not on the way from russia increased in ukraine what is this number i generally er i apologize it is a very expensive price but no one has done so much for the unity of the ukrainian nation putin we paid a fantastic price for this it is true but as a result, we got a completely unexpected high rate of unity, we really became a single nation today, i am not convinced that it will last for a very long time after the war, it will most likely not last, but less so today we have what we have and support authorities and support for the direction of the development of the state
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and simply understanding that the residents of kyiv oblast, kharkiv oblast, zakarpattia and vinnytsia region are one people , formed by kherson and kherson without a doubt yes yes and mykolaiv oblast yes in other words, we can state that vladimir putin himself killed the russian peace in ukraine absolutely, as for me, absolutely , moreover, he is consistently killing him in russia, see panielo, the current war is already the third war in the last 110 years, the first world war, the second world war, the russian-ukrainian war and the famine were that is, practically we do not have a generation or there was no generation during these hundred years, even
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more, who did not live in wartime conditions or in survival conditions. do you agree with the opinion that the current war is the finale not only of these 110 years, but also the finale of 300 or 400 years since ukraine and ukrainians tried to choose their independence, their freedom well, in the end to break away from the russian federation or the russia of that time, you know my grandmother always when there were family gatherings she always said that there should be no war i well, i promise a peaceful time, i once asked her, well , why do you talk all the time about the war, and she told me that you don't understand, but now i understand. i would really like this war to be the last, i'm an optimist
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, but not so much, but still, look, well it is clear that our nation, which has been fighting for its independence for 300-400 years, and especially i remembered those 110 uh-uh years uh-uh, in the 41st year, we were attacked from the west, and in 2014, we were attacked from the east, and how it generally affects ukrainians and the perspective of the ukrainian people, and how it affects ours children and our grandchildren and our mothers and our grandmothers and our great-grandmothers, they were all in the war or caught the war, there is definitely a genetic memory, you can't get away from it, it is true, it exists and i
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think that the famine will continue to be a sign for a very long time because the holodomor and the collectivization of the 38th year will be everything, but you know there is a problem of coexistence of different peoples, but today there are a lot of questions about how we coexist with the germans and do not want to coexist with the russians, in fact , it took the germans many years, maybe a decade, i don't i know in order to admit my guilt in this catastrophe that the world community suffered in the 40s , and when their chancellor knelt in warsaw, it was a symbol of their maid
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. that today, yesterday or the day before yesterday well, a few days ago , they started broadcasting videos from fedorovka on the internet, you know, i was offended by the lack of understanding that we are not attacking mine, and they attacked us in general, and in this sense, i don't know what it's not that we'll see them, that's not what we're talking about now . but in general, so that we can exist normally, forgive me, very sharply, well, even so. the question
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is how we have to coexist with them, because we have such an obsessive, stupid neighbor on the doorstep of our house who can break into yours the house, kill you, rape your wife, and uh, and you too , yes, this is also a very big challenge for ukrainian society, what to do with them next? you correctly mentioned the germans, as a few years ago i was in leipzig and at the book festival, and there one of one of the big topics was devoted to precisely this repentance of the germans before the world community. they don't understand this, and how many years have passed, you understand why, but it turns out that they are more in front of us, for some reason in front of the russians, that's why i can't understand, and because probably until 2014 and even by 2022,
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many people going to the west identified or at least perceived ukraine and russia as one with you, we watched with you, i am not about the government, i am about myself and you, why did we not try to convey this effectively, maybe our voice was not heard but at least it should have been done starting in 1991, it was necessary to shout for 30 years, then they heard us, you hessians, but by the way, about the russians, putin personally now calls for the russians to support the army that kills in ukraine, this narrative is becoming more and more frequent sounds from the tv screens, let's watch a small fragment, and then we will continue our conversation like this: and what will the hotel
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pay attention to, because the country lives an ordinary peaceful life, summer, holiday season, cultural life , exhibitions, and the guys are plowing there under bullets, you know they risk their lives, and comrades of their trees in battle are glad . i am your family. why did they address you to the deputy? it is necessary for the society to support the armed forces. it is important for our war to feel this support . of course, they deserve to speak. the country knew the country. i think that it is necessary to compose a song and write poems and erect monuments to them, they are heroes, it is clear that this creature is sick, it is clear and a cold-blooded killer, but there are 140 million russians who think well, if not 140, then 139
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million definitely thinks the way he does, uh, we already talked about the germans, that the germans passed this stage. but after the war, the germans were forcibly taken to the cinema. they showed what the germans did in the concentration camps, and 140 million showed how the heroic couple etipashut in ukraine, that is, they killed the neighboring people and that's what what to do with them, how to return the city back, i will not show them how they rape women and children, no one shows them the truth, they are shown how they heroically defend themselves, take or something else, so let's not underestimate the importance of the first, second, they worked purposefully with the germans
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about a dozen years until they finally understood something and the parables, i am not convinced that they have already understood everything. the feeling is even very much loved by me britain, she was going through it very hard today, russia must understand that there is no russian empire, there is no soviet union where she played a leading role and not
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only does not exist, but it will not be very difficult for them to deal with this to reconcile, i do not offer to understand them, to justify them to the gods, i simply offer an explanation of their behavior, everything depends on your feelings. so when did the russians turn into fascists, because what they are doing now is, well, natural fascism, did they always have it in their souls or was it brought up in the last 20 years, has it intensified in the last eight years? i just read what serious people wrote about the behavior of the soviet army in germany. what has changed?
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what has changed? then they carried paintings, now they carry toilets well, a change in mentality is possible, or culture, as they raped women, so the silhouette, nothing has changed. well, then there was already the soviet union, that's why russia, the soviet union, russia is different and who was in the soviet union , okay, but, panela, now the propaganda tv channels show how putin talks to seven wounded soldiers, the heroes of the horse tell about how later these heroes also shed tears, also a small plot so that you and our
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viewers can see what is happening in the neighboring to us in the state, well, obviously, the russians are trying to tap into the emotions of everyone else and show that they are the defenders. although they are invaders, of course, everything is upside down there, this whole ideology
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. well, can you believe this sociology? although i don't believe russian sociology at all , they say that 80% of citizens there support putin in the war with ukraine. well, i'm not convinced that 80, but what's more, i'm absolutely convinced, in fact, you have to believe, unfortunately for him they support him, they actually support him, and the support is very high. that's why everything is not so simple, no matter what we do, no matter how we behave, but they will be our neighbors, and we need to think about how to rebuild, not build, our relations now very there are many calls for the example of israel, i am convinced that it
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will work, because in israel the environment is low-tech, but here, after all, there is technology , at least they are at our level, well, there is what there is, but we will have to live together, nothing here, nowhere for me it is not to wear this. well, when we say that we will have to live, it means not only us, but also the next generation, our children, and you know the calls for the destruction of the russian empire as such do not please me too much, because it means that the weapons are different, including and nuclear will fall into more hands, i am not convinced, because unfortunately, unfortunately, we lost contact with alla libanova. i hope that we will now restore this
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connection. she is a professor, doctor of economic sciences, academician of the national academy of sciences of ukraine director of the institute of demography and social research of the national academy of sciences of ukraine well , in the meantime, friends, i urge you to subscribe to our youtube channel, as well as to our facebook page, to other social networks, those who like us and are watching us live on the air can also like and take part in our vote it is on the right if you are watching us now on the screen if you are watching us on a smartphone this vote is below under this stream we are talking today with ms. ella about the society that has formed at this moment in russia well, of course, we are talking about what and how ukrainian society will continue to develop, because it is absolutely obvious to the panel that
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there will be no return on february 23, 2022. and this is already obvious after six months of war, society ukraine is changing , the majority of ukrainians are changing and continue to live in the days of february 24 because it was a big shock for all ukrainians and how long do you think it should take for ukrainians to realize that there is no way back and we are no longer on february 24 and not february 23 that today is august 15 and ahead a completely different life and a completely different ukraine yes, no. how much do i think that everyone is aware of this ? they
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are still trying to conduct polls, you can argue about various things there, but 98.8% of ukrainians believe in our victory. well, that’s all that is said, of course , but on february 23, if they had asked this question, 98% would not have. that is, we have already crossed the line when people i was trying to figure out if the life that was on february 23 will be the same. i think that everyone understood that the life that was on the 23rd will no longer exist in the sense of contacts with russia. and we got rid of the inferiority complex, and this applies not only russians, but also europeans, the fact
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that today i receive the information that i receive from people who are abroad. well, it says a lot. moreover, i do not mean only information from ukrainians fleeing from the war, but i also mean information from let's tell the school directors where the ukrainian children of the university rectors got, not direct, but still indirect information from the ministers of education, information coming from the military. she said did she understand
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or not completely well, i can still say that the ukrainians who went to the west they began to understand what ukraine really is what ukraine is a fairly developed country because when we know each other they say about the fact that it is impossible to have an action there and where all the documents are impossible to get to the doctor within a day or two. it is impossible to open a bank account in the privat24 application. let's hope that this is not an advertisement for privatbank. it will be open now . you can open it anywhere. yes, yes. it is only now that people understand how comfortable and convenient ukraine was. now we are engaged in advertising the ministry of numbers. we
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are engaged in advertising the ukrainian state . this state in a different way, because those who remained in ukraine still have to hear about what people say who went to western europe to western europe or to other countries, you know, this is just a reaction to the fact that today a lot of people got there not as tourists because well, what is a tourist? he came to it a lot, well, a lot. he collected this money all year long. he has a desire to spend this money beautifully to relax there. 10 and 5:45 he lives in a hotel and everything else is one impostor from a ukrainian, there was a friend and it was empty - they were ukrainian wage earners they left solely for the purpose of earning and they
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agreed to a number of skilled jobs, they agreed to a lot of things to do and people with a high level of education left here, the germans say that 70% of our world is in the daytime and that our women are competitive in those labor markets where do they go the professions arrived, and to be honest, well, they all talk about they have dignity, they do not agree to work that does not satisfy them

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