most of the time, people just stand, well, they live in cars on the road, and this is really risky, because there are also people who have health problems, it is clear that in such conditions, unfortunately, we have confirmed cases when people could not stand it, but i i fully support ms. iryna because, well, the risk of staying today in the kherson region is much greater than going through this path, whatever it may be, and it’s worth it. believe me, every person who has gone through this, not a single one, i don’t know that she is there, it is possible that she accepted such the decision after people from e-e get to our territory , they come. well, this is a completely different life, it will be freedom and freedom. kherson is also our territory. it is more correct to say that it is the territory under our control, because it is pressure , pressure in the first place yes, a psychologist, and even if i need heaven, we heard you all. thank you, yuriy

sobolevskyi, the first deputy chairman of the kherson regional council. kherson was, is, and will be ukraine. but how soon will we be able to release him, in particular, and we will ask mykola salamakh about this to the colonel reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. mykola, i congratulate you on the broadcast of the marathon glory to ukraine glory to the heroes we have already started talking about kherson, here is the fact that now the occupiers, their command is fleeing from kherson, taking their families away from there, what this may indicate and the increase in terror by the way, this is the same it probably also has some connection there, how do you think the situation around kherson will develop further, well , in the near future, at least it means the actions of the command of the armed forces of ukraine to block the enemy group on the right bank of kherson oblast, sooner or later they will lead to the fact

that the law and order will be released, and the military specialists of the russian army, who are still able to assess a decent situation, they perfectly understand how it will all end in a month, maybe a year and a half, but uh, accordingly, no one wants their relatives if such people are now on the right bank of the dnieper, then their lives and health are in danger, accordingly, the evacuation took place, including those who were forced for this or other reasons to get to the territory of ukraine is there, not only the military, but there are also representatives of various russian parties , representatives of e.e. governmental organizations, those who put, participated in the creation of occupation

administrations, the public now perfectly understands what she teaches, it will be late from then on , the earlier, the safer it is, accordingly, they this is how they proceed, in particular, they use these roads that are still there, and here i wanted to move on to the topic of bridges, and personally, i have a question: we attacked bridges, and it was strategic strategic solution, but what obstacles can we face when we liberate kherson, and in fact we will also have to move there to the left bank, so the situation will be like this. so everything is equal. e-e means for this to happen e-e all e-e compression deadlines that will be

necessary in order to repair these bridges a until such time that it will not yet act on us we will have to instruct the pontoon table to cross the dnipro and use the methods that the rashists are now trying to use. well, once again, we must understand that if we guide the border table to crossings and build bridges, then as long as the rashists will be able to carry out countermeasures, they will will carry out this, use artillery, receive aviation, and also rocket systems of salvo fire. maybe even launch missile strikes on bridges in exactly the same way as it is carried out at the moment heard thank you mykola salamakha, lieutenant colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine about the forecasts regarding the

liberation of kherson and about the further situation we hope that here our defenders will have enough strength and resources and not just hope we sincerely believe in this, for this we actually work together with you we are doing our own contribution to the victory. unfortunately, what we talked about, unfortunately, sometimes at the cost of their own lives, more than 200 railway workers died after the start of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine. about this in an interview in the public, the chairman of the board of ukrzaliznytsia oleksandr kamyshyn spoke about the work of ukrzaliznytsia in the conditions of the great war, in particular, about flights to poland and the vip car. my colleague olena romovska asked about it. 20 years ago, the railway cut the last wagons for transporting the wounded already in the first week, i saw how do wounded soldiers travel in such a train, unprepared especially from the

dnipro, we made the first such carriage in 4 days. i congratulate you on the first channel of public broadcasting. thank you for taking the time, we will meet you just in time on the actual first anniversary of your tenure as the head of ukrzaliznytsia, and it so happened that half of your term fell on martial law in the country. what was the most difficult thing for you during this period to organize and organize in your work 196 days of peacetime and 169 days of wartime, i have already counted today is the end of the first year of my job, the most difficult thing was to learn to live when the children are far away, everything else is at work, the work process is a

little more difficult from the first day, it is easier later, but the work process has been adjusted clearly. you sent the family for border, like many families who left for the difference, you say that the personal moment was the most difficult for you, but at the same time, we know how much ukrzaliznytsia had to rearrange its work, and for many ukrzaliznytsia, it is now, in particular , evacuation trains that evacuate civilians and also evacuate wounded military or it was difficult for you to organize this work and, in particular , to adjust the employees of ukrzaliznytsia to the fact that they will be forced to work in such difficult conditions. look at any task, you can look at it from two sides, you can tell how much it's heavy and it's unbelievably unreal. and you can say that you just have to go and do it. if we talk about transporting the wounded, for example , on the one hand, it was an unrealistic task because 20 years ago, the railway cut the last

wagons for transporting wounded people and we entered the war, we didn't have a single such car already in the first week, i saw how wounded military men were traveling in such a specially prepared train from the dnipro to the west, and we from the team understood that we urgently needed to make such wagons, the first such fire. we did it in 4 days, a day for designing and three more days for work at this pace. i believe that in peacetime we would never have been able to organize and do such work, but we understood that every day when we did not do it somewhere there is a wounded man going, our guys are in wagons not ready, not, er, adjusted for the transportation of the wounded, this motivated us and we made such wagons very quickly, for today, such a fire is enough and they are more or less ready for

transportation. i remember well that on the first or maybe in the second month of the already full-scale invasion in some western publications, i learned with such interest that you were moving around the country in such a headquarters wagon, i don’t know if it is correct to say so, because the headquarters on wheels was dictated by your need to be in different parts of the country for safety reasons, and do you still work in this mode as a foreign journalist? we romanticized this story a little bit. ending with railroad cars, of course, hot dogs , eh and eh, the main story about this war is that it is necessary to constantly change, constantly adapt to new realities, the war on the first day, the war in the first 10 days, the first 100 days, and the war in 100 days are different wars and the way we

worked, lived, reasoned shallowly and made decisions in the first days is not similar to the way we have to think now, in the first days we made decisions promptly based on the situation. now we are more engaged in planning and implementing procedures and protocols for the most important thing for me is that the company and all employees are ready for any further step of our enemy. for example, we are already preparing for winter. one of the priority targets of the enemy in the conditions we live in, it wasn't scary for you to travel on the train in such hot times honestly, honestly, of course, it 's scary i have children i have a wife i have a mother i wanted to live and i want to live and how all ukrainians ya

i'm afraid for my life, but behind me is a big company, a big country, i didn't have time to be afraid, i had to go forward, i had to do my job, as for your fellow railway workers, i've seen stories that among your subordinates there are people who died while performing their duties already during the full-scale invasion, how many such people, today we already have 224 men killed and 350 wounded, and unfortunately, this number is increasing every day and unfortunately, we have to er find er how to live with it, we have to find a mechanism as to support the families of those who left, we have to find a mechanism to return the wounded to life and work. this is an important task for us. this is the most expensive price that we as railways have to

pay . e employees of ukrzaliznytsia who demonstrated uh well, let's say yes , they did some special traits, special deeds, and after february 24, i saw that you have such a section on your website, iron heroes, i'm afraid to pray, yes, maybe there is some story that you as the head of ukrzaliznytsia, i was most impressed", e.e. railway workers became really iron heroes and i will tell you one thing: the prime minister awarded the first 20 railway workers at the railway station, and one of the awarded was an electrician who could damage the e-e cable near kharkiv by russian troops in new bavaria, for example, i awarded him with a watch, exactly two days pass and i and my team

drove to kharkiv because there, again, the depot was shelled. to repair and a separate team of electric motors is repairing the cable again and the same electric motor approaches me in the same world. today , people here did a feat, they were rewarded and they came back and went to do their work again , they went to do this feat again. how do you possibly encourage those employees who demonstrate some kind of feats? that is, do you expect that it will be some kind of feat? decision at the level of the government and how can you enter a person who risks his life in order to support his colleagues in order for people to be able to go further well, tell me, that is, i will

tell you what i see in the comments on the ukrzaliznytsia page, one of of the most popular comments, what are all your innovations? they are good for raising the salaries of ukrzaliznytsia employees, maybe some additional payments to the salaries, some bonuses, but in fact, none of the railway workers raises the question today, and why is it very simple, you ask how is it possible to celebrate those who go to such feats. and really , railway workers have never refused to fulfill their duties, no matter where it was and how dangerous it was, despite the monetary prizes that we give to the iron hero award, this is our corporate award. the main thing what we can give these people is attention and this is an assessment of what they do for the company and for the country, and these people, no matter where i travel in ukraine, no matter where i stop, no matter what our structural division is, i always

thank the railway workers for what they do and you you know what they always say we're just doing our job we're just doing what we have to do and it's a virus we're just doing our job it's us now it's a virus infected the whole company we're just doing our job really again from the comments on facebook i saw that some like it looks like the employees of ukrzaliznytsia complain that they are idle. do you have such employees and what is the reason that people are without work now because it would seem that ukrzaliznytsia is now just 101% busy, we already have less than 12,000 of them in the whole large the company has 230,000 people, and many of these employees remain in the territory where we no longer carry out transportation. they receive 2/3 of that salary and are unemployed, we motivate them to move to the territory where we can provide work and or continue pay

a full normal salary or stop paying even a simple one where we can no longer temporarily provide any transport services, i talk a lot with employees when, for example, he stops in kramatorsk in sloviansk there where we have railway stations, where more than a thousand of our employees remain, they do not want to leave the territory where we can provide work for them today, they decided that they will stay there for me, for us, for a large company, it is important that people return before working among the employees of ukrzaliznytsia, you had to identify traitors, after all, we are talking about infrastructure facilities and information about the work of ukrzaliznytsia, this may be information for the company in ukraine to have 23 thousand people, so we have four confirmed facts, when we conducted our internal screening procedure, we had suspicions , handed over materials to law enforcement agencies, law enforcement agencies

confirmed that people had information on their phones that they shared with the enemy, four such cases, we have a certain number of cases that are under investigation , we, as the largest company, have i really have such people in my team and unfortunately it is a shame. but i am sure that there are such people among worse other organizations, but you and i are in the library perhaps there may be such employees in the librarian, but they tried to employ such people first of all in a large infrastructure company . two complaints about this train, the first complaint concerns the problem with purchasing tickets for this train. i see that you are being left messages on social networks that there is no way to buy these

tickets, but they are found with speculators, please you comment on this and the second moment complains about these three-seater carriages that it is cramped and very difficult to travel there. when you evacuate with a huge amount of luggage, millions of our compatriots have turned out to be in poland and millions want to leave ukraine at least at some time to go to poland, never in their lives it was not planned that there could be such a flow of people wishing to cross the border with ukraine and poland by train, and indeed we have one train ukraine er-e kyiv-warsaw er on which there is a shortage of tickets and it will also er-e regarding the cars themselves on unfortunately, this wagon is 40 years old, unfortunately, these are old wagons . unfortunately, during the 30 years of independence of ukraine, only two such wagons were bought and they were bought last year by our team. and another 19 wagons have an

average of 42 years. i understood the complaints of our customers and our passengers we will be glad to update our wagons of the supreme warehouse, but for now we will travel with the wagons that are there before they are detailed, but about the wagons, i still want to ask if ukrzaliznytsia can somehow influence the speculators who may be buying such tickets now indeed, there is an increased demand for them. you say it yourself, and then they sell them, in fact, out of hand at inflated prices. we found a way that some speculators booked such tickets and then tried to resell them. i think that mine were blocked and this should be a much bigger problem. smaller, but you know how people joke these days , er, i recently saw an ad changing the full set of stamps, including er, the upcoming ticket for warsaw-kyiv, unfortunately, closer to september 1, these tickets will be even more scarce, given that

increased demand for such a flight and a plus to everything considering the fact that there is currently no direct air connection from ukraine, or is ukrzaliznytsia somehow working to increase these international connections, firstly, it is technically possible to improve it, secondly, it is possible to add some new e-e flights maybe there are such opportunities , we have added new features, today there is already a flight from kyiv to khelm, there is a night flight from kyiv, we have every idea and we have expanded our international e - transport work several times. which there is very little suitable for such transportation, what are you focusing on in the matter of wagons, it is now a completely impossible story that the rolling stock was somehow updated, at least for these flights, in fact , any order for any wagon is at least a year, but even during the war we received 25 new wagons, we slowly put them on

flights to and from the country, because they cannot go abroad, and we continue to update our rolling stock. you mentioned krematorsk, and of course the tragedy that happened in kramatorsk was hit by a russian missile, the station where people were evacuated from, uh, the biggest losses are undoubtedly human losses, meanwhile, i understand that ukrzaliznytsia is suffering huge losses now, given the full-scale such combat operations, have you already counted them, maybe you are already preparing some submissions to international courts authorities in this regard we count, of course, all damages, all finances, we count everything, but the main thing is that during the war we strengthened cooperation with the railway authority when it was necessary to carry out our evacuation work, our delivery humanitarian aid, well, all this work was clearly done, and the war only strengthened our mutual understanding with the authorities. last year, the government

began supporting the railway and investments in infrastructure and rolling stock renewal. this was the first state financial program. and this year, we accelerated and increased because of this state program, today we have good state support that allows us to calmly look into the future and understand that we will properly finance our operational work and correctly to close, did you calculate the losses, maybe there is some specific amount, we will take into account our financial results on a monthly basis, and we will announce them in the appropriate format, are you talking about a state program ? in the world, there are two mechanisms of how the state finances the railways in the whole world, this applies to both the east and the west, and america, there are

states investing in infrastructure because the railway infrastructure is supported. this is a rather costly story, and the second story is the financing of passenger transport countries in different parity, but both items of costs are always borne by the state. last year, we concluded that the state began investing in infrastructure and updating rolling stock. this year, we de facto received from the state budget compensation for losses from passenger transportation and the equivalent of infrastructure investments. who should be the parties to the state , we expect that in the future these relations will be legalized and we will receive the same and similar funds in the future. get another 14 of these in the annual mikury literally recently were the decisions of the ministry of infrastructure

that ukrzaliznytsia increases the tariffs for the load of transportation by 70%. well, agree that 70% is a colossal number and i see that there is criticism from the business side about this. but what is it? well, i don't know how it is polite to express the word that it is, well, that it is too much, is such a step justified, and whether in you remain in these conditions, the demand for freight transportation, when tariffs jumped so much to increase, our tariff was 6-7 times lower than the tariff in neighboring countries, starting with moldova and ending with poland, romania and other countries, when the war started, our cargo owners actively traveled through poland and through moldova and through romania, and they assessed how economically unfair our ukrainian tariff was, so when cargo owners say that end-to-end logistics costs them 120 dollars, then in ukraine they leave

30 of them and drive the same distance as they drive further across europe to the ports, so there was only a few weeks of dissatisfaction with the increase in tariffs immediately before the rise and a few weeks after that, you all calculated that it is clear that in reality and for the installation of the owners, this is a $5-7 increase per ton. everyone understands that at high prices for e-commodities, this is quite a heavy burden both for cargo owners and for the railway, it is an opportunity to continue to exist but it seems a bit as if the government decided to take advantage of a certain without alternative. some exporters are like that. in the current conditions, when there is, well, as of now, there is a partial blockade of ports and increased by 70% the tariffs for assembly transportation of our the government has been preparing the country for a long time for the fact that we should integrate into the european union. many years ago, the large energy companies and the government heard that they were preparing our

population for the fact that we should be accustomed to european tariffs for utility services for electricity and many other things. all logistics should also approach european ones . analogs and therefore i believe that when introducing prices to a normal level this is an absolutely normal story, it is not taking advantage of the opportunity - it is, on the contrary, to give an opportunity to be more competitive compared to european countries because the cost of fuel rails and many other materials in our country is the same as in europe, why should the tariff be 6 times less even after the increase, it is only 3.5 times less, and the quality of services, the conditions of transportation are the same as in the countries with which you compare more, i will not talk about passenger history, you must have heard in the comments and many places from some of your acquaintances that the quality of transportation in honor of the arrival of

trains in europe can be better, let's say so, even compared to ukraine, especially compared to in ukraine, i will say about cargo transportation, then cargo transportation and everyone who tried to work with european logistics companies is coming back to us . by russia's deliberate blockade of ukrainian ports, or purely because of the potential , what share of the grain that was blocked in ukrainian ports can be taken over by the export can be taken over by ukrzaliznytsia, because i imagine that this is obviously not the entire volume, and it cannot be said that ukrzaliznytsia is

an alternative for transportation. one of the world's largest exporters of grain, and the restructuring took place in a few months . unfortunately, the problem is not in the railways, not even in ukrzaliznytsia, the problem is primarily in european ports, because our grain has to go to european ports to then be loaded on a boat and go further to their usual markets china, north africa and the near east, we transported our part well and we are transporting it well, unfortunately it all rests on the border with european carriers ukrzaliznytsia in november of last year, it transported 4.1 million grain. so we can , unfortunately, before the opening of the ports, we exported about two million tons of grain per month, that is, the problem is definitely not in ukrzaliznytsia and not even in european railways, the problem is in european at the ports, god give the agrarians to grow and collect, we will be happy to transfer everything that plays will be collected in

the direction of europe and sea ports . foreign officials, tell us a little about it, when the iron diplomacy program ends, if you want, i will tell you a lot of interesting things while the program is working, the safety of our passengers is our main priority that is, you do not reveal the details because of security considerations, at least you require the guide to speak english, for example, from none of our guests. there were no complaints that someone did not speak english or someone did not speak spanish, german and french and many other languages, everyone got along everything is fine well, i caught you at your word so that you can tell us in more detail later, because this question is of interest to

many people, in the end i want to ask the russian troops eh well, not only, but i understand why you do nothing don't tell me, look at the end, i want to ask you, before the interview, you hinted what you wanted to say. what gift did ukrzaliznytsia prepare for ukrainians for independence day, which secret will be revealed very soon, because i thought it was about a mobile application that became known today, you say no, no it our work. i am generally surprised how a company of the level of ukrzaliznytsia lived. until now, without our application, we are the largest service company, our client base is essentially all of ukraine, how could we have our application i don't understand, the number one application in the app store charts and already an hour ago there were more than 30,000 downloads, we are already complaining that it doesn't work, i haven't heard, i don't see