what is the point of a horse, because a horse moves in the planes in which a person moves forward-backward, right-left, up-down, when you don't have a leg and you can't. well, to have this balance, you sit on a horse and the horse gives you movement with a tongue, that is, i am saying centaurotherapy of the horse's legs, your head, why are we talking about breathing, because there are such people who, somewhere on the third lap, can already fall out of consciousness . oh well scan your body say, yes, great, i'm on a horse, here you are relaxed, there is relaxed and what's with your breathing, your breathing was growing and what's with your lower jaw is normal, and already when a person

starts, it's just that the facial muscles are relaxed and that's it , and then the horse behaves completely differently, then they are one and the same thing goes like this jazz just jumps dodo dodo and look, you have to want her to go home saw yes and you turned through the first time because of this everyone passes the same way home we have any horse can troll the veteran put a child here, a child with autism, a child with hyperactivity, all this, the horse will go and start working , the positions of an adult uncle who will say sasha, why doesn’t she go anywhere with me sasha said she is like

me white, that’s just because here she feels an adult rider on her and he says so you are driving , but what else is cool about working with the body , that is, you cling to a horse and you are afraid of falling, and then at some point you don't care what people will say or whether society will accept you. and whether you have arms or legs , you have one task don't throw everything off this horse and everything you then start to include the body when you include the body you have lightening thoughts and when you lead a horse you begin to come gradually to the point that you begin to manage situations in your life in your life so basically you can do everything i was a little i was so confused, my thoughts

went in different directions so chaotically, now i am relaxed, collected and feels much better to balance the nervous system, to interact with animals and you have to love them very much. it's scary. well, you have to overpower yourself. the first time i was a month ago without a prosthesis. no, it's more convenient with a

prosthesis . it's more convenient to sit. and it must be distributed as often as possible, because wherever we are, we face this resistance, negativity , misunderstanding of the need, why it is necessary, what is the role, what does it mean to be ukrainian, yes, and this is what it means to be ukrainian, that is why we are here. that is why we everyone uses each other on a volunteer basis, and in fact we get such a global result with this theme for veterans, that's a normal topic in the united states, for example , in britain, that's fine, that's common. i want the victim to be at a decent level in ukraine that's why i do it, well, that's how you understand creativity here, that's creativity, i do it so that the picture is painted what i then see the result of my activity 10 years ago it was like this and now that's

how i started working i started in a clear field just in a clean field in the village of poltava, now i have a different class of horses, i have a different language, that is, cover everything for me there, we can work here and-y well, i didn’t even think then that i will work in such comfortable class conditions we are growing we are developing we we do hippotherapy, quality, and i think that over time we will be at the european level, uncomfortable questions, witty conversations, the most interesting fox insider, every friday at 21:00 in marathon, the only news, our ukrainian temporarily occupied cities, heroes, ukrainians under occupation are doing heroically

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really believe only in the armed forces of ukraine. i want to at the very beginning, i want to ask you about the history of the public organization blue bird, because this story is quite dramatic and let the audience learn about it, please. i am a woman from luhansk, after the event on the maidan, i returned to luhansk. luhansk was just when the first attempts at occupation, which later led to from the further occupation of the city well, of course we tried to somehow resist then as much as we could do it naturally, i was captured and after that i realized that there is a need for people to understand what to do when their loved ones fall into the hands of people after captivity, and the need to get some kind of support in moving to new cities, legal support, psychological support. well, as a matter of fact, i was

inside this problem and all these questions. i felt at first on myself that they were i, too, really wanted to help others, well, with my example. and in general, by creating some kind of system so that they do not find themselves in a situation where they have nowhere to turn to. and what is the worst thing about being a prisoner, that is exactly what you felt then in luga. it is a loss. control and loss of control not only over the events of your life, but over your life in general well, when you don't even have a choice to live or die, and well, it's hard, it's hard to feel that everything completely depends on other people, in fact, it's somehow so good and you moved to kyiv and this arose the idea of ​​creating a

public organization what did you do, to be honest , it wasn’t even a kind of where it was rather a flow , that is, there was no idea of ​​creating a public organization, rather it was because of my experience, because of my active position, people just turned to me and in at some point, well, the relatives of the prisoners, the people who survived the captivity, and since at that time, well, in fact , there was no unified center under the sbu, which will be created only in september 2014, and hmm, in fact, the russian aggression began in april 2014 yes, that is, six months. yes, when people were taken prisoner, when people were tortured, but there was no state mechanism, no appeals, no rehabilitation , therefore, in fact, there were simply no places to turn to, and people called wherever they could, yes, that is, there were a lot of appeals. well, that moment also came to me and it's not

there was even a public organization. it was rather a reaction to the fact that there was a huge problem, there were already hundreds of people at that time, and we were the ones who extinguished the fires at first. and when it became clear that it was a hundred people, then there was a need to create a fire extinguishing system, create some kind of team. yes which will already work and within the framework of somehow adapting these well processes of creating rehabilitation of the process of creating a-a legislation of the rule- making base at the state level and also providing support to people well, but already as a team not like it was at the beginning. such volunteer initiatives have actually existed for 8 years. unfortunately, ukrainians continue to be captured and held against their will for 8 years, and the situation with exchanges is

constantly changing as it develops . from captivity as an issue of rehabilitation of former prisoners was decided at the beginning of the armed aggression . a little terrible, because then there were, uh, individual negotiators , some of them were decent, some not so well. well, you know how much we know about some of them that they were definitely dishonest. yes, there were cases when they took money from people and did not fire people. that is, it was a situation of chaos, in fact, if the relatives, er, before september 14th, applied somewhere for release, it did not guarantee anything at all, whether they paid money or not, it did not even guarantee that

they would not be forgotten about, and since september 14th, when it was a unified e-e center was created on the basis of the service of the security of ukraine from that moment on, in principle well, this situation, well, their work was improving little by little , but at least it became clear that if people turned to the united center, then this cannot happen tomorrow, they will forget about this person. that is, it will not be lost in any - in any case, it already meant that, in principle, this appeal will be taken into account and the state will talk about the person in order to change him. what we communicate with various participants and negotiators of the process, including despite the fact that i still have no doubts about the effectiveness of the work of the joint

center and that they were, directly, a working tool that would prepare the exchange, and they are but to say, for example, that the negotiation process is now as we used to know, well, who are the negotiators, who is traveling on minsk today , in the conditions of martial law, this process is not open to everyone and there are always certain changes that are not what you know i do not know how respond i don't understand whether it is important to respond to them at all, because in principle, what seems important to me is that the center that knows how to work, that prepares exchanges, how it worked in the 14th year, uh, that's how it works now, but i know anya for sure about her personality unfortunately, from my own experience, i made sure of this, i made sure that you can help , because i have friends who, unfortunately, were captured during these eight years, and during the

next great aggravation, they were captured again and ended up in the occupied territory and i know that you are exactly the person who can tell you how to act correctly if your relatives , your friends are captured, first of all , you need to contact the national information bureau - this is 16 48 and the joint search and release coordination center at the sbu these are the main appeals. moreover, you can apply even to the purchased territories of the united center. there are viber, telegram, whatsapp phones, they have a questionnaire that can be sent to them either via messengers or by mail. that is, it is not essential. if there is an opportunity, then it is advisable to contact the police here. well, here is the nuance, which is the police in general, until march of this year, it was a mandatory step to write a statement

that a person disappeared, it was necessary to write a statement even when a person was captured in order to be on the lists for exchange, and from the 18th from the beginning of the 17th year until march of this year on the 22nd. first, it was necessary to file an application with the police to get an extract from the unified register. and this is a certain time. that is, it could last until the month, and only then was the person added to the lists by the united center for today with in march of this year, the police were made an optional step, not because they are not needed in this process, but because ukraine's task was to survive and use the maximum resources for the defense of the country, and accordingly, the police was sufficiently loaded and working with subversive groups and the defense of the country, because they still understand what the burden will be with the captives, loading it with this question. well, i suspect so, i would also do

the procedure for treatment, and the main thing is that it would be a long enough step to wait for this introduction the case is in the unified register by protocol, it could be a month ago. in fact, this was done as an optional step. i think for a limited time, and as far as i know , even today, even in the unified center , people are still advised to report to the police, that is, it is worth reporting to the police. yes certain nuances that people may later encounter when they need to contact the police in the future. have opportunities yes there are legal opportunities under the laws yes there to carry out certain investigative actions to find out where the call will come from such and other directly the united center itself is not an investigative

body, that is, they do not bring these investigative actions, therefore it is precisely necessary to contact the police in order to provide additional information about which investigative actions can be carried out. and i know that over time, the profile of your organization has changed a little. you are more focused now on psychological support and those who were captured i understand the relatives of those people who now can not reunite with their own friends, parents , brothers and sisters who are now singing in captivity , mostly we have psychological and legal support, because here it is very difficult to separate these concepts, it is very difficult to provide psychological support to people after captivity if they have a lot of unsolved legal issues and some unknown documents, they cannot apply for certain compensations from the state and well, it is clear that we actually have such comprehensive psychological support

legal and, if necessary, socially, i.e. medicines, but at least what we can definitely note is that in comparison with the 14th year, when people were not provided with any kind of medical care after the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. yes, in principle, no help was provided and there were cases of people with open fractures without documents in which we simply have them well, we figured out how to provide them with this help in general, then in 17th year at least the first medical examination and the first emergency medical care for today was taken over by the state through official exchanges or here too i i would like to clarify that fortunately there are people who are released and not because of exchanges. but unfortunately, they are still very chaotic. sometimes they receive

medical assistance from the state, sometimes they do not receive it. the so-called filtering camps of people, before giving them free travel outside the territory and occupied territories of the russian federation, they are checked, received there for a very long time, and you were approached by people after the filtering camps, can you give them some advice on how to introduce themselves and what kind of help they can get? in fact, if people were detained, if people could not leave the territory, then in fact they have the right to apply for help for prisoners, that is, in fact it was taking hostages, because there can’t be filtration camps in the territory of ukraine. therefore, it is desirable for these people

to give evidence to the prosecutor’s office of ukraine. is a war crime, therefore, first of all, from a patriotic point of view, it is desirable to give evidence to ukrainian law enforcement agencies. well, and secondly , people can be presented in the same way as prisoners, that is, after giving such evidence, they can later pontificate, or apply integration to the commission, or well, we we expect that it seems that since october it already takes work on the law on prisoners. well, here our lawyers can tell us more about it, but as far as i remember, sometime in october, we are waiting for him to calmly appeal to international organizations. and it seems to me that it is already a fact that in ukraine there is a real crisis of confidence in many international organizations that worked in ukraine. does it make sense to talk about the number of

crimes? now it seems to us that this information has a lot to say. what is the point? why do it from one side i completely separate somewhere from the other side working for 8 years i understand that the representatives of the international committee of the red cross monitoring monitor monitoring zion and the same threaten in the occupied territories they were there are people present there, unfortunately, they are not superheroes well , unfortunately, they are just people, in fact, they often behave like superheroes, but the story about which you also know that for example, the representatives of the osce, the osce, who worked in the occupied territories, they sent a mission, and the people who worked there are now arriving in captivity and i am not sure what the organization is doing. the maximum is to get

them out of there. i don't know anything about it. unfortunately, it is unknown. although i know people in ukraine who are engaged in this, the organization, as far as i know, applies to various institutions, including the un commissioner, the osce organization itself for all its employees. the question is who can do what, well, that is, and here is the question, you know, if you were attacked on the street by gopnyk, yes, you can. well, talk to them, tell him about the rules of the law but who is this guy to blame for these rules of law? well, in fact, russia behaves like that. and it is really a democratic world, all these institutions, they are not working very well now, because we are dealing with such a guy. well, he is really one who does not pay attention to any. he well, this is a country that violates all the norms of international

humanitarian law, that openly threatens nuclear mines there. well, that is, in fact, on the one hand, it seems that there is no point in contacting, but here the question is what kind of world do we want to be in and what kind of world do we want to live in and transform into the same gopnik exactly as you mean, and on the one hand , these institutions really do not work now. the question is what kind of world will we build, in which they will, after all , we will try to resuscitate them and still believe that someday it will not be similar to russia will work it is similar to russia, we really believe only the armed forces of ukraine, but i have no doubt that sooner or later we will win and then i still want to return to those agreements of these international foundations that were well for me it would be important for me as well the important thing is that

today ukraine collects crimes, they are simply a huge number of war crimes, but you and i collect them. after the second world war, there were a huge number of war crimes and they were collected for ten years, and they must be talked about and must be somewhere for centuries will hold these e-e trials because otherwise well, how else can we return to the people after all this, after the victory, do you want to return to your native luhansk or not? i don't know why, on the one hand, to this day, despite 8 years, i still i am a woman

from luhansk. river and i want not to be afraid to step on nina, that's why it will be important for me to come to luhansk, that's for sure , it wasn't a farewell, i don't even collect things , there were children's books left there, there were some kind of work done there, my child is important to me to come, it's important for me to feel and most likely, i will not stay there, but it will be important for me to come and make a decision, that is, whether to stay or leave. well, thank you very much for the interview. thank you, and i am sure that we will have such an opportunity again.

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