southeast asia, other countries from other continents, in fact, after it is recognized, if it is recognized as a sponsor of terrorism, for example , the united states of america, it will have such a chain reaction for everyone. even in asia, no one will sit down with them at the negotiating table to sign some kind of economic or commercial agreement there, thank you and mr. david, the state is a sponsor of terrorism after all . the most we expect such a decision from the united states of america, because it somewhat ties the hands of russia's economic relations with china , india, which, as we understand it, and we hope that this will have a great impact on the russian economy, really, less so latvia, the diet of latvia were the first, and it is interesting. has

such a discussion been started in the european union as a whole, if we are talking about tourist visas for russians with caution and something. even as i understand now, skepticism in europe is the state sponsor terrorism - this is very radical for europeans, so you in ukraine live in a slightly different dimension than europeans live, and all these things that you are going through today do not affect the daily life of europeans, but this does not mean that there is no understanding of these problems, these problematic issues and that one day later it may not be immediately, but after a few weeks or months, europe and the western world will come to the same conclusion .

there were the baltic republics that introduced such harsh sanctions, and then the rest of the european union, the rest of the countries that are further from ukraine and from russia, well, if they did not understand the meaning of these sanctions, now they have also introduced them, that is, there is no need to be angry with the europeans or the western countries that they are somewhat such things are introduced, it is also necessary to understand that for western countries, the concept of the rule of law is very important and one of the first questions, for example, which we heard here in the czech republic, when we proposed the same idea to the czech deputies first the question was, what hydraulic consequences would it have, or would it have any limitations on my influence on our ability to influence russia, that is, the first question is this, then we will say yes, the law of the rule of law, what consequences will this have in practice, if these consequences are, let's say, it will be possible to explain that

they are clear that it can affect the aggressor , then i think this understanding will be increased and where the parliament will be willing to accept this and here we must also understand that we in the united states - it was accepted by the comres, that is, the synapse is established, but for now that the president did not sign it, and there we see that the executive branch of government is also not in a hurry, i know that russia is a country with such terrorism, because they are aware of all these consequences. one of these consequences is, for example, the almost complete closure of diplomatic relations. this also applies to the visa issue, which is prohibited for russians. one of the arguments is the following question: will we not close to ourselves as a defense the possibility of influencing the change in the situation inside russia? this is one of those basic questions that is always raised when we we are talking about some restrictive measures in relation to russia, thank you and in fact i would like to emphasize that we always expect

our european and overseas partners to take really decisive steps, but we need to be understanding about some procedural points and besides, to be honest, it is difficult to insist on something, the meaning of the decisions from to the example of the europeans when we ourselves do not have enough time, opportunities, or maybe just sabotage, to be honest, on the spot regarding well, for example, the confiscation of the russian property in ukraine, i would like to remind you that the processes of arrest and confiscation are really ongoing in our country, but the ministry of justice is in no hurry to sue in the sense of the prospects of recovering this property for the benefit of the state . it would be nice to have time to do it, thank you very much for including ru serpenko, a diplomat, an international economist, was in touch with us a-a and we also spoke with

davyd stolyk, the first analyst of the european values ​​center, prague well, the attention of the whole world right now, as far as i'm concerned, it's focused on the zaporizhzhia region, where the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the city of energodar, and a satellite are in contact with us now. in the zaporizhzhia region, not far from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, people periodically report to us that smoke is visible somewhere from the side of the nuclear power plant, and we receive such news every time it is extremely alarming. together with the situation around the nuclear power plant as of today and how and how energodar lives. well

, in recent days there have been shellings in the area of ​​the nuclear plant and not only in the city. a few days ago, such shelling at the nuclear plant led to disconnection of the power unit, but now the station is working normally, the radiation background at the industrial sites is normal, it does not exceed the values ​​that under normal conditions, the operation of the nuclear power plant in the city is also fine, but the day before yesterday's shelling resulted in the death of one worker of the nuclear plant, as well as two other people are in the hospital in a serious condition, but treatment is being provided, we will compete that everything will be fine, mr. dmytro, please tell me if

the russians continue to charge military equipment on the territory of the country, it was known a few days ago yes what happened was that several units of heavy equipment were brought in, which they are currently using with shelling of nikopol and manganese. by the way, we have information about another shelling literally in the last hour nikopol of the dnipropetrovsk region, i hope that we detail this information, mr. dmytro, is there any communication with the local residents of energodar, maybe people can tell us where, for example, they are shooting in the area of ​​the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, creating a very simply provocative situation. - we have such a wave, there is a country cooperative, they are also shooting from

the territory adjacent to the coastline and from the surrounding villages, when the wave of shelling began in the area of ​​the zaes, there was a report that that the employees of rosatom, at least there is some kind of management there. as far as i understand, they gradually started to leave. do you confirm this information, and in general, is anyone from rosatom present at the zs? there will be shelling, i think that they are just hiding, trying to avoid this situation, it is very difficult to predict, well , when and where the shelling will be and what consequences it will have, that is why everyone is hiding a-a is it possible to leave the city of energodar now in order to

to protect oneself in the future from any negative consequences of a possible accident on zaya. today there was information that the exit from the occupied territory of the zaporizhzhia region to the unoccupied one is somewhat suspended . i was and where i am at the moment. it is possible to cross some

green corridor to try to negotiate with the occupiers, er, the necessary drugs that the local population may need in the event of a radiation leak, er, is there any way to communicate on this topic. in the event of such a situation, it really is i will take all measures to transfer to the city of energodar the necessary medicines and preparations, this concerns the grandfather's potassium first of all, but now this work is being worked out at the moment, if there are no borders before that, so that no one prevents it from being done, it will definitely be to be done i thank you very much, mr. dmytro, for the information dmytro hortenko, adviser to the mayor of the city of energodar , was in touch with us zaporizhzhia nuclear

power plant continues to be shelled by the occupiers, this is done regularly and it is equally important to realize that not only the rocket projectiles that regularly fly over the air defense system are a direct danger to this object, but also an internal sabotage of interference in the work of personnel who selflessly continue to perform their work at the air defense system, almost in the status of hostages, any such interference can be fatal for the work of the nuclear power plant, let's give something positive, in particular, we really have it since the beginning of the large-scale invasion of ukraine, a large amount of territory was liberated from the presence of the occupier, and this applies to kyiv the region is almost the most. the town of borodyanka in

kyiv oblast was hit by shells and air bombs, and it is now necessary to understand exactly how to restore this settlement. the borodyanka village council announced a competition for the development of a sketch project for the reconstruction of the central part of borodyanka, and i found out today from artem's post bronzhukova, a political scientist, now a volunteer, who was one of the first to report this, artemy. congratulations to you. glory to ukraine. glory to you very much . direct visions, er, targeted hits by the russians and incredible destruction. all this must somehow be faked, repaired and tried to restore life to the maximum. what kind of project is being launched now, and the most important thing is to implement it,

what do you need now? my friends and colleagues from the kyiv region immediately went to these cities in order to help people as much as we could. at that time, it was humanitarian aid. carried out were more impressed by borodyanka and mykola davydyuk even then he suggested that he had such an idea at the expense of the fact that not only humanitarian help but in general return to this city the usual peaceful life and try to make it better than before the russian invasion and slowly and with "i got this idea that we need to start a big reconstruction project, we prepared for a long time and consulted with experts in this field, and a decision was made that let's hold a big competition for architects we will attract well-known e-e specialists in this field so that the public can choose

the best option for them from among the large number of offers and, in principle, to rebuild, now we are at the first stage, there is a website, there is a competition. now we are actively receiving applications from various architectural bureaus participation a-a plus there are still two two important directions of our work the first e-e after just architects - this is the search for money a-a here a big diplomatic work is going on we are talking with e-e representatives the type of representation is exactly ours of friendly countries these are the baltic countries - this is poland, this is great britain, this is the connection of the united states, and everyone is very interested in the project, so i am sure that everything will be fine. and we will find financing, and there is another very important aspect for us. documents because ah in europe, for example, there is the same dresden and rotterdam and cities that suffered a lot under the nazi invasion and today

ukrainian cities that suffer from the russian invasion, they just understand ah all those difficulties that europeans once experienced during the second world war. today, unfortunately, we have the same story. therefore, this is precisely the basis for building partnership relations with large european progressive cities and, first of all, it is the imitation of the experience of positive reconstruction that they had, the reconstruction of the wart, that is, the project in in principle, already now together, at least some kind of vision will appear and then the search for funding will begin. in fact, this is a very interesting topic for me, because at whose expense is the banquet. as they say, this is also important to realize that for the restoration of many of our cities, we will need really very a-a significant amounts will be needed, nevertheless, eh, but now i am receiving signals such that many small

or larger settlements of cities eh in europe, for example, are really showing their desire to be involved in the processes of restoration and reconstruction of populated areas in ukraine, but they are stopped by some bureaucratic let's say so obstacles and still eh well, let's say that through the central government yes, through the central bodies eh the authorities will have to spend all these moments with financing, with the conclusion of partnership relations and so on, but i would like to see more decentralization work here, as much as possible. in which we conduct a dialogue about funding. we just point out that it is important for us that they also provide auditors who

will monitor whether the money is spent rationally and effectively european or global taxpayers, as for the picture as a whole, of course, many european world leaders came to the same borodyanka, ukrainian cities, and it is very important that their visits do not end exclusively with these visits in order for aid to go properly, and activity is important here both under the local government and from the central government, because ah, today, ukraine is important, it is in all the news, we are heard, but there are still such negative things about us - it is about corruption, it is about inefficient officials and so on and so on, i think that everyone knows about it, and today it is civil society that must be the driver of these changes in order not to allow potential

corrupt officials to make money from this. e european aid was spent correctly and people felt it because it was the ukrainians who suffered from the russian invasion, they deserve more than anyone else to take away the poor quality of life, low-quality reconstruction psychothems that were destroyed by the occupiers of artyom. thank you for these important things, which should actually be voiced and promoted even now, and despite the fact that this path will indeed be difficult and not easy, because the aggression of the russian federation against ukraine has thrown problems not only to us, but also to our european and ukrainian friends. i hope that it is easier to beat a group father. as they say, we will defeat this hegemon, or a country that at least wants to seem like it. thanks for your work. artem bronzhikov, a political scientist and volunteer, contacted us

about the prospects for the reconstruction of the ward a village in the kyiv region, in the kyiv region, which was severely damaged by russian shells and aerial bombs . well, then we move on to the topic, you know how i would call it, happiness and unhappiness would help, now you will understand what i am talking about. the study that since the beginning of the full-scale war in ukrainian society , the indicators of civic identity have increased sharply, the results of the all-ukrainian public opinion poll, again conducted by the city council, are absolute the majority of the inhabitants of our country, almost 85% , first of all consider themselves citizens of ukraine, and a year ago there were almost a quarter less of them, a good dynamic. it is a pity that under the influence of such circumstances, contact

us anton grushetskyi, deputy director of the kyiv international institute of sociology anton, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, well, first of all, thank you very much for your work , for those regular studies that become the basis for our discussions on the air. without you, we would not have managed to fully understand the picture which is looming in ukrainian society, tell me a little more about it if you can, here is the latest study that it showed because, well, globally 85%, we know this, we have seen it, but here are various such point small moments they are often almost the most revealing, please see the survey was conducted in july of this year, it was an all-ukrainian survey of 2,000 respondents for a sample that represents the adult population of ukraine, and you are right that you named one number, but this one number falls into

dig into the other data that we published, first of all, this is really growing, and the very identity of the citizen is absolutely right-wing and important. by the way, give a figure on this too maxim, because it is not only among the population of the country as a whole, more than 80%, first of all, consider themselves by citizens of ukraine and even among different regional categories, i.e. in the west and in the east and different nightly night categories. that is, we even emphasize that among them russian respondents in the sample, almost 80% look primarily citizens of ukraine and for this is a great progress of ukraine, in fact, the evolution took place all during the years of ukrainian independence . that is, there was a growth of such a civic identity, but unfortunately, such traumatic events as now give such strong impulses to its greater growth, as among other data that we previously published, for example, that the trend in support of euro-atlantic integration has been growing over the past 30 years, but the events of

2014, especially this year, have dramatically changed and strengthened the opinion of all ukrainians that ukraine should be both a member of the eu and a member of nato, and this again applies to different categories of young ukrainians , older ukrainians, western ukrainians, eastern ukrainians, residents of the villages of the city, more educated-less educated russian-speaking ukrainian-speakers, that is, we are building such a more cohesive society in which not so important issues have ceased to be divisive, they became integrative for ukrainians and so on. this is the icing on the cake. it really feels like i am not a resident of my village, the city, because of the region. and i am a citizen of ukraine, and this one of these bases. by the way, which of the 1,000 aggressors did we find in society? here i completely agree with you, and this is a very cool trend, because the orientation towards one's small homeland, well, at least i remember well. living in crimea, these phrases about the

land beyond crimea are not crimeans, that is, even there, without seeing themselves in the context of any ukrainian or any other state, crimeans have always positioned themselves as residents of this small piece of land and from this well, in fact, there are a certain number of problems that lead to a chain reaction and er, but still the realization that home and in general is our comfort zone is really within the borders of our state and not exclusively of some specific region. it seems to me that this is a very promising story, nevertheless. maybe you can elaborate a bit er again the results of this study by region well, you have already noticed that russian-speaking ukrainians are what is commonly called russian-speaking ukrainians . the state is more active eh hmm what can be said

about the residents of western ukraine, what is the situation there, is it changing in any way, is there a traditionally normal and positive history in this sense . civic identity, but even there, in the 1990s, there was still such a large territorial attachment because, after all, such an identity as galicians and volhynians still existed and played a role, that is, for women for the entire region over the past 30 years , the process of such an exit to the all-ukrainian level has also been going on. we must not forget that even now there are some ukrainian opinion leaders who are speculating a little about galician separatism, so in fact it should not be underestimated, that is, in fact, such growth is also happening in this region that the whole of ukraine is one ukraine, there may be some differences, there are galicians from kharkiv, but after all, it is one ukraine, we are all

ukrainians, it is decreasing, it is being erased, but this region still led the way for a share of those who had a civil identity on this i mean there was always a little more, now it is also under 90%. in the south, lord, there were fewer of them, but even now it was 85% there, it is a little less than the average, but it is 75-80% of the leaders of the south and east consider themselves primarily citizens of ukraine, and the center of ukraine has moved closer to the west. there we are talking about 85-90% of those who consider themselves primarily citizens of ukraine among russian-speaking ukrainians, you are right that a large part is from the russification of ukrainians, but that is why we we are focusing attention on such a narrow category as russian-speaking ethnic russians, but who have been experiencing the truth in ukraine for a long time, and that even among them 77% consider themselves primarily citizens of ukraine. that is, this is also a counterthesis for russian propaganda, which also says that the russian-speaking population of ukraine feels that they are russians are

part of the russian world or even ethnic russians, but even ethnic russians who live in ukraine feel they are ukrainians, that is, it is probably there national origin, there ethnicity there are parents and some other issues, but in the soul it is as if mainly ukrainians and such that 10 years ago the tangent was completely different, this is in addition to a really small-town such identity, which means that it was greater, we expressed the identity of the soviet union, therefore, for older people, now it is one 10 years ago, the percentage of such people was measured there in two digits, it is actually uh, and it turns out that all these categories were transferred to the category of citizens of ukraine. that is, it turns out that among all categories you are talking about some variability in fact, it is 80% plus minus a few percent , they consider themselves primarily ukrainian citizens, that is, there are a little more ukrainians in the west, but by literally a few percent, this is not the situation of ten years ago, when the west was for the european union and the east was categorically misleading from russia, such expenses are no longer god exists and this is beautiful

hallelujah, we are actually very happy that we can talk about it now, but anton unfortunately, we have to admit that while we are trying to investigate in general and how exactly ukrainians themselves identify uh, a large number of our territories are occupied, and there already now they are trying to brainwash the ukrainians, they are mostly disconnected from the adequate ukrainian information field or just about the western one, and in general, they are now entirely immersed in russian propaganda, i am not sure that a few months of being in the occupation will somehow have a strong influence on the outlook of these people and on their relationship to the ukrainian state or to the aggressor state, but less, but the drop of the stone sharpens little by little as

in your opinion, the attitudes of the population of our eastern and southern regions may change in the near future, taking into account the occupation factor , is it possible to predict this in any way, we are actually talking to you that crimea and donbas, which was occupied in the 14th year, should be taken out of brackets, because there a separate story is going on in these regions because they immediately recovered from the traumatic period of the euromaidan and fell under the russian occupation, that is, they did not have these 8 years, as, say, kherson oblast, zaporozhye, donetsk oblast, luhansk oblast, which was under the control of ukraine did not have these eight years such a run of intensive european integration and still the development of a new ukraine that we have seen since the 14th year and all such certain alternative points of view of various sources of information visa-free and other achievements during this period but if we are talking about the kherson oblast of zaporizhzhia luhansk residents of donetsk region, what is new , first of all, even at the time of the february invasion, only 5-10% of the population there were those

who, according to polls, would welcome the russian occupation . this is an absolute minority and it is not really a problem well, each country of ukraine has its own specific categories of population, that is property, but we understand that if we say from the kherson region, 150% of the population is the 10% that remained from 50. that is, it is already 20%. it is such a larger and more noticeable population, but we must understand that the absolute majority of those who remained, they share the ukrainian worldview in may, which we had the opportunity to survey because there was a telephone connection of people in the kherson region of zaporizhzhia, and even those who were involved there, they maintained a predominant most of them are about ukrainian moods and the fact is that the tao is somewhat inferior, because some of those who remained actually welcome and cooperate with the occupiers, but the absolute majority are our citizens who also cheer for ukraine and are worried, and it is not really possible to succumb to the narrative so that all those who remained are certain

traitors this is absolutely not true, in fact the absolute majority are our citizens who are waiting for liberation and in fact, what do you do if you are under such a powerful pressure of terror between the fsb and the russian special services and even this is not the media propaganda, namely the terrors that are happening, people may be afraid to express their point of view, that is why all these polls that are closed, the russian sociology of the poll - it is really not worth anything, because what can be the sincerity of the answers, that is, in fact, even now in ukraine, a driving country, the sincerity of people in their answers is much higher to interview questions and freedom of speech than in the occupied kherson region of zaporizhzhia nowhere as he said today, then we are building that democracy is drying up in the world and it is actually in all territories you may be right all the same, under this pressure, pro-russian moods will grow a little, but they will not stop it. this is what this experience of 8 years is all about, and what is important is that horizontal ties are preserved, because the older parents remain and the younger children have left , that is, they preserve