we can or at least he as a political animal will understand that for him this is the end of any actions of the russian federation repeated actions of the russian federation from the territory of the republic of belarus mr. volodymyr thank you for the conversation i wish you the best of health take care of yourself and your relatives i hope to see you in in the next broadcasts, friends, this was a verdict program, it was conducted by serhiy rudenko , tomorrow we will meet at 1:00 p.m. gal levin is also a guest - he is an officer of the israeli army, and we will also have andriy illenko, he is now fighting on the eastern front in the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, let's talk about the situation on the eastern, southern and northern fronts of ukraine, wait. well, most importantly, take care of yourself and your family. goodbye to 11-year-old sasha marchenko, who disappeared

at the beginning of march in mariupol managed to find the boy, his uncle, who lives in the territory controlled by ukraine, the man told where his nephew is now and what horror the child had to go through. so sashko lived in mariupoli together with mother, grandmother and grandfather, when the war started, they tried to evacuate, but unfortunately they did not manage to leave the city. somewhere on the 22nd, they went up to the apartment in order to take food and take what today uh after that there was some whistling and a strong explosion hit the crash. here is the actual photo of the house in which sashko lived. the explosion was very powerful and then a strong

fire started. they all ran together to the balcony because it started very quickly and the fire was very strong. he says that it just caught fire at one moment and very a strong fire started, little sashko, his mother, grandmother and grandfather were in a fire trap on the seventh floor of the house , there was no way to go down the stairs, grandfather he climbed over the railing of the balcony to the outside in order to help them go down, he jumped and he did not make it and broke down down, unfortunately, sasha's grandfather died. in the meantime, the fire was getting stronger, and in order to save the boy, mother and grandmother tied sheets and began to lower the child down. these were some sheets. some sheets, uh, they tied they tied them to sasha and started and gave him a backpack phone and started to take him down. sasha says that

when he was still coming down from our place, his mother , svetlana, and grandmother already started to burn, the fire was very strong and they burned there, the boy was brought down from the 7th on the 5th floor, he was picked up by a neighbor woman who took sasha out into the street, and there they were stopped by the russian military. they walked with her down the street . it was dark and they were spotted by some russian patrol. well, some patrol spotted them. they picked them up from the street and put them in the bus is small and they were taken to nova azov, nova azov, they got to the local police station, mr. oleg was already able to talk to sashka via video link and make sure that his nephew is alive, now the man is trying to restore the boy's documents remotely in order to try to get him to a

safer area, at the same time, mr. oleg says what to experience sashko, unfortunately, did not pass without a trace and affected his psychological state, the child became closed in. now he has some mental problems , it is clear that he is not contact and unfortunately, there are a lot of such cases in ukraine now. therefore, the international children's fund unicef advises parents of children who have suffered psychological trauma due to the war as follows: do not avoid talking to the child about his experiences, tell the child that you will definitely take care of his safety, you can act out fairy tales with younger children about how the main character survived difficult times and what awaits him in the future . if there is such an opportunity, of course, seek help from a psychologist, returning to saška marchenko and taking into account the horror that the boy experienced

to say that this is a story with a happy ending unfortunately , it is hardly possible although of course the most important thing is that sashko was found and he is alive in the meantime and there are still many boys and girls, so please go to the website of the child tracing service and if you recognize someone call our hotline at with the number 116,000, calls from all mobile operators are free, also write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram so that ukrainians do not think about so that they do not speak in the first place, war is still coming, war is ours victory seven days a week from monday monday

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therefore, in ukraine, greater support for the west is needed so that the russian war does not last forever, and support from large western european states is especially important, the prime minister of estonia kayakalas said in an interview with the swiss publication zona tak blik. this is what she said this week . well, according to her, it is particularly alarming that in some countries they are generally calling to stop the supply of weapons to ukraine - according to the estonian prime minister, russia should continue to isolate and then there should be legal proceedings prosecution for war crimes and the creation of a tribunal well, ms. kalash concluded that putin is betting on impunity and this cannot be allowed under any circumstances, so my question to you , mr. volodymyr, is why. these are the trends now in

europe, and in greater europe, we can say that they are being followed . and can such a cold european winter become an ally of putin, and perhaps it is already slowly becoming well, actually, for a free market economy, any monopoly , monopoly, opportunities, suppliers, no, they are not decisive, a free economy very quickly orients itself to new suppliers to new sales markets, that is why putin himself has a problem here, the only thing is that gas in europe has always been politicized and the lobby that gazprom has fed under for decades, it does not sit idly by, it constantly muddies the water. it creates such an atmosphere of nervousness , an atmosphere of pressure on local politicians in order to force, well, at least reduce the pressure on russia, in

this case, everyone perfectly understands that the moods of citizens in most european countries are against aggressive russia, and the fact that the prime minister of estonia gave an interview to a swiss publication is more than indicative because switzerland, let's mention , for example, the supply of ammunition for the german cheetah anti-aircraft artillery complexes, which ukraine has already received er, how long was it? well, er, the very problems with the supply of ammunition to switzerland and i just held back and had to find er, these ammunition in my opinion in argentina or in brazil, of course, let's talk a little more. we are still not leaving, we are not leaving estonia. you know i even wrote down how to thank the estonians in estonian tananteid weight for everything they do for us

and er how they help us thank you very much in estonian let our estonian brothers and apostles er forgive my pronunciation because i 'm sure a little probably i didn't say that. but we won't leave estonia yet, but this week, a person who managed to sit in the chair of the president of russia between two terms of putin , er, this is dmitry medvedev, very strongly attacked the same kaya kalash, the prime minister which estonia for the fact that she said that her country would ban the entry of russians into its territory, and he even said in a telegram to himself that the fact that you are now a free country is not your merit, but our improvement, mr. volodymyr please tell me this is just a drunken rant of a person who was removed from power, but she still tries to show that she is worth something, at least in that hand in the country in which she lives, or is it

still that this person speaks according to some kremlin methods and articulates what is needed articulate well, how do they think? well, the main question for yuri here is: is medvedev a man? he has two legs, two arms. well, it's like something like a prototype of a head on shoulders, that's why he was called a man. well, a man is not a man, it's true. the fact is that medvedev is well, this is putin’s fascist schizophrenia, she constantly demands such a thing. well, the competition in the rating of schizophrenics of the main schizophrenics of ukraine and medvedev, uh, he must understand that this person holds the position of deputy uh, head of the russian security council, he is a former president, but what he utters and writes especially on social networks. i wonder why social networks have not blocked this

account until now, because in principle, the accounts of ukrainians are innocent. i think, in general, for the sake of experimentation , it is necessary to try to repeat what medvedev says on some unknown accounts and we will get a case when the same social networks block us letter by letter , the posts of alya medvedov are written. therefore, this is some kind of strange story. how should we react? well, we must react to the whole of russia, and to an individual schizophrenic. the whole of russia, by the way, doesn't have the internal strength to protest against the policies of putin, medvedev , patrushev, and so on. russia sends its people to kill ukrainians, continues to send some kind of er, natsbat, something like

that . that is, they are not inventing anything, but simply ukrainians went to defend and are going to defend their land out of good will, and these are all mercenaries, and this is all included in some kind of logic, well, i will explain it very little, because on the one hand, there is the helplessness of the population, poverty, uh, total uh, and impoverishment only in the last six months, it 's simply catastrophic, the russians are already complaining. but at the same time, uh, there are no protests against uh, putin , it reminds me of germany somewhere, well, in march or april, uh, 45 it's already falling, everything is already falling, everything is all lost, and

the population sits and is silent, like chickens next to hitler and russians next to their putin, this is a very complicated story. medvedeva well, he still said that. well, if you look at putin's russia in general, you know these historical descriptions that he published a few months ago, is there any danger now for the baltic countries, in particular estonia, should they prepare, or is russia now still, she threw all her might into ukraine and the baltic countries can at least now breathe easy, in fact the baltic countries in the 14th year everything is clear, that is, they are so clear this is the baggage of the post-soviet heritage of poland, slovakia, the czech republic. i am surprised hungary, because hungary has actually slipped from one authoritarianism, e.g., to the second

, communist authoritarianism, it was not a democracy, but all countries that were democracies at least for a while know the price of putinism, uh, they react very clearly, they prevent this. latvia is to thank the latvians who were the first to recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism. estonians began to block and latvians began to block czech visas , that is, now bankova has taken a certain position on banks believe that blocking the visa provision for all russians will create conditions for an internal protest inside russia. i deeply doubt this, but here, if you don't throw the baby out with the water, because there are

real opponents of the putin regime, whose regime haunts obviously these people must be saved for the ukrainian ear there is a very irritating moment about good russians let's talk about good russians this will be my last question to you i will give a quote there and i would ask you for a comment intuitively agreed on this topic, and let's then move on to another question, if we are already talking about the baltic countries, about their support, about their help, we take eastern europe, some countries of eastern europe, poland, slovakia, to a certain extent, the czech republic, and, for example, the north, finland, norway, sweden, in your opinion, why that is, the east and north of europe helps, and somehow i would even say so, understands ukraine more than the centers and the south of europe, first of all, the czech republic - this is not to a certain extent, the czech republic accepted the

largest number of ukrainians per 10,000 of its population the largest among all european countries, the czech republic has constantly helped since the 14th year, having a comical president and for well, let's say that for er in the shadow of this president, the wonderful pro-european , patriotic czech government has always helped, even that government, the scandalous predecessor of the current government, and that helped ukraine that is, we have, for example, a very consistent position of the visegrad four, except, of course, hungary, because it is such a bastard of europe, but the countries of northern europe, they turned out to be for ukraine, well, more than take the czech republic, oh, this sweden, of course sweden has a long history of relations with ukraine, even on the territory of the current kherson region, which is experiencing

a huge tragedy of occupation, there are swedish villages, that's why the swedes always flocked to ukraine to remember at least the uh euro-2012 uh swedes such an incredible number came to kyiv. when i looked at them , they looked exactly like the residents of the kyiv region, and here you and the varangians have some complaints, so to speak, after a millennium, but the fact that denmark, norway , sweden so consistently and finland so consistently and loyally support ukraine, this is probably an understanding, once again, of what constitutes a threat to a civilized russia , therefore, we will be grateful to these countries and we will support economic cooperation with them in every possible way. and why do you think there is no such understanding in the south, why greece sometimes allows itself such rather provocative statements. italy and it is already

france. and the aggression really was, well, greece, it is these southern countries, they are impressed by the great french in them, the fronde is very important against the embroidered american, so they are fronders and the greeks, including russia, is a kind of instrument of frondism against the united states, but greece after mariupol. it seems clear to me what russia is, that is, the greeks , such a complex economy, it is unprofitable after joining the european union and, well, the formation of such european economic priorities, greece was generally sprinkled, therefore, it actually turned into an agrarian country, although once, the gross product of greece was formed by more than 50% from sea transportation, it was

one of the world leaders in sea transportation now it's not like that, she has significantly lost her position. that's why this friendship is characteristic of the southern countries. they, uh, somehow do not fully appreciate the weight of ukraine, and i consider this to be a failure of ukrainian diplomacy, although italy has of course corrected itself, a pity. of course, what is a failure especially at a time when we are currently at war with an aggressor country, it's a pity, it's a pity, it's a pity, mr. volodymyr, look this week, and the prime minister of poland, mateusz murawiecki, also made a statement in which he said that the big , larger western european countries are somewhat wrong treat the smaller european countries in such a way, as if oppressing them and that the european union is ripe for any changes in general, the question for you is, in the end, is the european union able to survive in its current form

the difficult times in which we have all fallen, and especially when we now we look at the european union and see ourselves there in the future. well, actually it is about the fact that ukraine is, well, too important a factor for the re-formatting of the european union, after all, in the old europe, now within the framework of the the european parliament has the opportunity to form such a policy in the interests of this axis of france , germany, and france and germany the most. at first, they were afraid of britain and in every way gave british initiatives to turn around. everything rests on the size of cucumbers and not on the place and

role of european security and the european bureaucracy, in fact, it drove europe into a very well such a consumer format and not on a strategy and here, uh, well, the appearance of ukraine in europe, uh, first of all, it will force a reformation of the composition of the european parliament, uh, of the countries of central europe, uh, and uh, well, that is, this uh, let's say, the central european conglomerate of countries will form its own european parliament, that is, uh -he will always have a certain majority of the votes of the baltic countries. well, what is included in the trimore format, i want to remind you that even after trump became president, he came to warsaw precisely for the

trimores themselves, countries go to the trimore. the baltic countries of the black sea and the countries of the adriatic, that is, most of them countries are simply post-soviet countries or, well, from the orb of soviet influence, and they form such a more apparently radical discourse in relations with russia that old europe does not like. germany and france. by the way, even after the aggression against ukraine, they increased their economic presence in the russian market and in 18-19, let's remember that after the 14th year, renault quite successfully entered vaz and, in fact, became renault became the main russian car manufacturer, that's why they have such a story, they still have a memory of uh, well, this pretty well-fed russia uh, with incomes of about $1,000 per person working

for one person, and now russia is poor in this market, which they have lost, and cannot be returned. russia will not return to the economic levels they dream of, so is it still worth investing in ukraine to create a worthy one here ? a consumer market that would ensure the sale of a huge amount, including automotive products from old europe. that is, you mean that the european union in which ukraine will be will be completely different. well, i will not say completely different than it is now, but different because claims a leading role in some sectors, for example, in the defense, e.e., armored vehicles , e.e., hmm, radio location, in the space industry, it will play a rather noticeable role, that is,

the market will be redistributed, the role of certain countries within the eu will be redistributed. the segment could really strengthen europe, the missile segment could, well, the entire space segment , it only strengthens europe, it does not weaken it. well, now there is another factor, the factor of the ukrainian armed forces today is really more combat capable army on the territory of europe, and this factor can be such a, uh, cornerstone of the formation of the future security architecture of the whole of europe. of course, we are moving to russia, to the russians . let's talk about the explosions in novofedorivka near the ukrainian city of saki in

ukraine, on the ukrainian peninsula of crimea, you already talked a little at the beginning about the fact that the russians are still somehow asleep, these explosions were capable of at least somehow you know how to stir up these russians. did they look at these explosions? those of them who were in crimea ran away and forgot, well, the most important thing is that these explosions stirred up russian ordinary people who still trust the tv, and listen a little to their wounded who talk about the horrors the war in ukraine and about the fact that the mother, what should the shooters do to break their leg and arm, that is, the russians are beginning to understand that ukraine is much stronger than theirs . there was another airfield near sevastopol, and this, i

believe, formed this nervousness among the finishers who fled from the crimea to flee from the resorts, and this mythology of escape is capable of undermining confidence in their own authority . russians have long been skeptical of putin, no matter how much propaganda pulls on their ears, because since the attack on ukraine, household incomes have fallen by 15%. that is, since the 14th year, the russians have been getting poorer, there has not been a single year that they have stabilized the decline of the economy. volodymyr, well, we finally came to my last question before him, let's listen to the direct speech of this week. again, the minister of foreign affairs of estonia, urmas rein salo, said, let's listen to what he said after the question. i do not

agree with the opinion that we should separate ordinary citizens of russia from putin's war in ukraine is waged by the russian federation as a state, and there is no doubt that the citizens of this country are morally responsible for this by their passivity, so estonia's position is that the european union is imposing sanctions. a country that can also implement them, let's say russian citizens are not happy here, but in estonia they believe that every russian is responsible for what putin does, every russian is responsible for the aggression that is going on now in the russian aggression that is going on now in ukraine, what do you think and there are such correct russians