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yes, for ukraine, which will be real, which will be effective and will work for a long time, guaranteeing peace to our people, the russian army of this day continued absolutely senselessly brutal shelling of the cities of the zaporizhzhia region and dnipropetrovsk oblast, orykhiv nikopol, unfortunately, there are wounded, unfortunately, there are victims, the shelling of kharkov border areas continues, but that's all it will not give the occupiers anything and will not break our resistance, our heroes are repelling constant and very powerful attacks in donbas, the occupiers will use all aviation there, rockets, phosphorus bombs the artillery continues to be very cruel, we have to go through it, endure everything and choose life, ukraine must win and it will be signed today the decree on awarding our defenders 189 soldiers will be awarded state awards 158
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national guard servicemen, 21 of them posthumously 26 border guards, two of them posthumously three policemen, two of them posthumously two employees of the state customs service , one of them posthumously eternal memory to all who gave their lives for ukraine eternal glory to all our heroes glory to ukraine we will rebel we will bind up we will win bristles news together we are strong may 30, 1876 bdms germany russian emperor alexander ii signs banning the public use of the ukrainian language education and printing of books in ukrainian but it was too late ukrainians already had kobzar and aeneid who knew by heart how impossible it is to pollute
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an important for or even your in the cockpits of airplanes behind the monitors of radar stations at the control points of anti-aircraft missile systems at thousands of combat positions throughout the territory of our country, they bring victory closer every day. glory to the air forces of the armed forces in ukraine, in ukraine, volunteers find everything, everything is possible, they find everyone, they feed everyone, they save their tails , they give them gifts for airplanes, they collect them, they
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help doctors, they sing lullabies, they equip defenders, they hug everyone. glory to ukraine to the whole world. at home, assess the environment call for help, report where you are, stay calm, wait for the debris to be removed, if no one can hear you, try to free your arms and legs if you are not sure in your power, patiently call for help if possible, use the phone, knock on the
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pipes , the heating batteries. in ruins, tell the rescuers your help can save lives not only the indomitable spirit of our people and our soldiers has turned against ukraine, but also the comprehensive support of the world, the supply of modern weapons, financial support, all this destroys the kremlin's plans to occupy ukraine, that is why they are using all their forces in the information space, the other day putin has gone information nuclear weapons scandalous report em nastya international, international human rights defenders
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accused our military of violating the rules of the introduction of war, but it seems that this information explosive did not work, but on the contrary opened weak points and the plans of the aggressor, we talk about it on the air of the night watch on 1+1 as part of the national telethon and the studio works for you natalya ostrovska and yevhen plinska and it will be love to help us understand this topic tsibulska, the founder of the center for strategic communications and information security , we are glad to see you on the air let's, before we start to analyze this complicated operation of the kremlin , let's start by figuring out what actually happened, what kind of event is this, what kind of report is it, why did he explode into the world an international human rights the international organization publishes its report now we will see it on the screens and we say it rained the armed forces of ukraine hide their forces military equipment in residential quarters in hospitals in schools well and now
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we can quote a fragment written by representatives of the international organization ukrainian military exposes the civilian population to danger by creating bases and using weapons system in residential areas, in particular in schools and hospitals, when trying to repel the russian invasion , ukraine's tactics violate international humanitarian law because it overflows civilian objects with military ones, so russian strikes on populated areas led to the death of civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure end of quote you know what outrages me in this report about what about the actions of the russian military about what they are doing on our land about the fact that they are destroying the nation, well , they didn't say a single word, it seems to me that these words and these actions of theirs do not need confirmation, everyone already understood everything, but here it is, well, a very powerful accusation , a very authoritative organization, how did the world react well, actually, let's look at it all
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from a different angle, all the experts who deal with countering disinformation have long had questions about this organization, that is, to talk about the fact that this organization has absolutely no stains on its reputation. we continued and continue to ask them questions for all these eight years and now we have seen that they have once again confirmed their um, i don't want to say no to uh commitment, but at least not professionalism , so we still need to investigate why they did it here, er, in fact, there are also a lot of questions about the report itself, about the methodology, and what are these conclusions based on, how many experts were interviewed, who are these people who were described, and now we see very hot discussions and er, in all social networks and in in ukraine and in the world, i see that twitter is exploding simply
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because of this whole story and in fact we are supported by a lot of international experts who have the same questions about the international capacity, why is it like this, what is the methodology, why exactly like this, where is the explanation, what were you guided by when you did such conclusions olegen, the secretary, she says what ukrainian trolls and russian trolls say about this. and we know our work and will work, that is, they continue to stand their ground. yes, they simply accused us of disinformation, this is our unshakable and everything else. this is already discrediting our work. they collected information. they don't give. yes, but at the same time, the head of the ukrainian office of emnosti international resigned, and this is actually such a very revealing step. she wrote in her post that she hoped to the last that it will be possible to correct the report, that it will be possible
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to somehow influence the decision, obviously the decision of the central office was final, so we see that emnosty international is once again tainted, but the ukrainian division of emnosty international was not involved in this work at all, before this analysis, before this report, who could have conducted it in general taking into account that the events are taking place in ukraine in the combat zone, who could have implemented what or not, that they were in mykolaiv, and it seems that this is the basis of their opinion that the defenders are actually the same as the international they talked with the ukrainian military, and so far the answer seems to me to be yes, from what i have seen , no, how did the international human rights community and ukrainian human rights defenders colleagues of emnosti international react? let's listen, starting from
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2014, here it is. well, there were, well, significant comments even regarding the materials prepared by amnesty international regarding ukraine and we remember that they were seriously criticized by ukrainian human rights defenders when it was announced that ukrainian military bases were located in hospitals or medical institutions in five cities for seconds, this is nonsense because we have information and collected data about the fact that in no ukrainian medical institution have the armed forces been stationed now. what could it be about? let's just say it was abandoned. well, there is a population center
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that already has, for example, no civilian population from where the evacuation took place. and probably already semi-destroyed or maybe a medical facility in this medical facility can house soldiers, it no longer functions as a medical facility 10 about the accusation, i will tell you for a second about the commission of a war crime and there it is about this, this is the last section that is what ukraine is called a war crime, that is, if you put forward in you must clearly state the arguments and i will tell you that if the vision of the international capacity in their standard they put photos of those who have nothing to do with the school as they think no
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to the medical institution, these are the ukrainian soldiers who stand on the slavic defense and their photo is used as uh let's say this in the context of accusing them that they endanger the civilian population, this is already manipulation here are examples of manipulation samples of manipulation that they don't understand uh these norms also indicate that there is, as it were, a categorical ban on the use of school premises, there is no such categorical ban, so see exactly which one you have bans on staying in other civilian institutions of the military that protect perform the function of protection well, in fact, as i see it through the eyes of amnesty international and how should
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the ukrainian military act? well, they should go out into the field, like in the middle ages, stand with the flags of ukraine , the russian military should line up opposite and the battle should begin. will win, but i'm sorry, it was russia that started shelling ukrainian cities first. yes, we remember the shelling of kyiv. well, in order not to go far, mariupol was completely destroyed. the bombing of the maternity hospital and the bombing of the drama theater in mariupoli, i.e. what other evidence do we have to present to the world in order to say that it is russia that is doing this, and not ukraine, and we are defending ourselves in the conditions where we are. so our military is defending there was an example of slavinsk, yes, they are in slavsk, where are they located? i apologize to them to leave from sla for the russians
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to enter there and arrange another bucha there, we have already seen what happens in ukrainian cities when the russian military enters there, when there is no resistance from our army at the initial stage, there is a genocide of the ukrainian people there civilians are being destroyed, that is, containers are offered to us by this development of events. it turns out so correctly , and why else is it an information bomb because when russia bombed the mariupoli drama theater or the maternity hospital, she already spoke there, all the russian propaganda, russian officials talked about the fact that they are bombing it because that our military is there and now the container takes and actually confirms the thesis of the completely false thesis of russian propaganda in russian propaganda we will add you we will not show screenshots you now you show screenshots of the report in their news and write that it claims that the ukrainian army uses civilians as a living shield and
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this is confirmed by the international human rights defenders' reactions to the story, now they refer to the presence of international, they say that international human rights defenders say that you use civilians and defend yourself them well, but all this reminds me, you know, when the victim hit the rapist with a vase and he did not expect it because he thought that kitchen knives were in the kitchen and he did not expect that he would be hit with a vase and she is outraged not just because she crossed out the vase for the wrong purpose. well, well, we understand the complete absurdity, but the world in some part of it is, well, this thesis that is being spread by the media has found some support, someone reacted besides the kremlin and russia on this report as its beneficiary would like, in fact, here it is necessary to understand that the world has long been loved by a part
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of the western community, in particular, for a long time, has been blaming the victim, well, that is, this battle continues and in the information field of the event, only one is constantly talking that ukraine must be helped at all costs, because it is a fight against the evil of the great evil, others say that ukraine itself provoked a lot of this and we have to admit that, well, those voices are heard because of the fact that there are a lot of russian lobbies in uh, in european capitals, because russia buys journalists very often, because, in principle, a lot of people look at the world through the prism of russian propaganda, and uh, now we see that there are media such as the new york times, i looked at their article they they talk about all this ska yes, but at the same time, they protect and carefully protect
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the international containers, so uh, well, this will continue until we defeat russia, that is, russia is promoting this narrative that ukraine is to blame for the past eight years and of course, this resonates with many people, and of course our struggle is only now becoming the most difficult. this is the first phase of the war . i would say that we have won so informatively, because we have shown everyone that it is russia, we have shown what russia is doing. now we need to get all the help from russia, and russia will do everything possible to deprive us of this help, because the amount of help we can overcome without help, we will be alone with this terrible monster, but at the same time with our representatives of the authorities iryna vyryshchuk vice - the prime minister of ukraine, er, other representatives of the government are calling on the civilian population to evacuate
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from the kherson region, they said from donetsk region. well , why not talk about the fact that there were no signals. and in general, we cover ourselves with the civilian population. it is completely impudence to say such a thing and it is absurd, we understand it, but the people who are there may be americans who do not follow all the information, they read like this and thought like this. well, maybe everything is really so ambiguous, this is who the extraordinary population was intended for or just to discredit us at the world level this is very hmm, it fits so well. all the people are suffering because of ukraine. you will have to pay more for gas. you are suffering because of the refugees. in fact, this propaganda is very powerful now in the west. you do not want to be educated. to pay more for heating in winter, and here are the ukrainians who provoked it themselves, allegedly, they put civilians at risk. it’s all because of them
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, these people, then the danger is what are these ordinary people who get this information in social networks everywhere, so who can even don't read, but some authoritative er unconscious media they will then ask questions about their er government yes and governments are governed by the wishes of the voters accordingly when the germans come to them in the winter the germans will say yes the averages will say and why do we pay more than that, now the standard of living has decreased, the level of income, and at the same time we give so much to ukraine , this is a long game and we need to learn to protect ourselves systemically. there will be a lot of information bombs because the kremlin still has many agents. it was in the european institutions that such a powerful card
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was drawn. yes, with this report of furniture, that is, the kremlin was counting on a specific reaction of some kind from the world so absolutely, and we are still looking at what they they say to themselves on their propaganda channels, and they say, look, even these are human rights defenders who are supposedly always on the side of ukraine, that is, they are separated, they do not want to be associated with them, they even confirm that ukrainians endanger the civilian population. this also shows us that there is such a crisis, a serious crisis, there are so many of these institutions, all these institutions produce a lot of documents , speak a lot of words, and have very large budgets, but in fact they are so barren er, they are not jews, and when a genocide takes place right in the center of europe, they just shrug their shoulders and say, well, you see, that is, nothing, we
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look at the un, we look at the international at various other organizations, and we see that there is still no clear, understandable answer to ask did you mention the un? you spoke at the un. you had the opportunity. i would like to hear from you. your own feeling. and what does the un represent today? yes, we talk a lot with diplomats about this structure. well, the fact that the council of ministers is blocked by russia is understandable, but in general he is discredited herself as much as possible in this war. and here are your own feelings, ah, my feelings were such that i admire ukrainian representatives at the un , because it is necessary to have a very high level of this passion, and in order to represent ukraine in this way , it is actually platforms where people go, countries presenting their position are important, but it cannot be
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limited to this. well, if russia is blocking , then something must be done about it, we know that russia entered there as the legal successor of the soviet union, this is also a question of what right russia has to stay there and have the right to veto, therefore, in fact, the un has many questions, we constantly discuss them, yes , they are discussed within the un, someone is looking for the speeches of serhiy kislytsy , we are in trouble at the un, he constantly refutes the fakes of mr. a speech about what is happening in the band says to the whole un says that the russian military in buch gave dry rations to ordinary citizens, but then ours continues to say that after that they throw explosives into the basements after they give the sukhpanka and the people some kind of report and say quote to the end yes, but after that,
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grenades flew there in this basement on the word they try somehow er, sir, write, act, understand, we understand well, because the complexity of this structure a-ah and there are movements, oh you you see, you feel, you saw in order to solve these problems. i wouldn't say that i saw, but i don't belong to the un, you understand, that is, i was invited to speak, i spoke, i listened to everyone, and there is such a pattern that those countries that are more dependent on russia occupy such the position is very neutral, moderate, yes, those countries that supply us with weapons, their position is clear and understandable. and at your speech, there was a russian employee on the gas, and i had the opportunity to see with my own eyes that everything he says is a complete lie. well, there is nothing there. no word of truth was uttered at all, but this lie is masterfully constructed, that is, he collects some particles
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, refers to the media, ukrainian politicians, ukrainian officials, and puts together such a puzzle that for such an average statistical person who doesn't really follow the situation there in general. i even admit that it can look convincing, that is, again there sounded this thesis about russophobia, and this is actually the case with us. we know that our russophobia is not enough. to the conversation , we will add yevhen fedchenko, editor-in-chief, stop-fade , director of the mogilian school of journalism, to our broadcast and we will look for answers to what meanings russia is laying down by playing out this stage of the information special operation let's come back, kateryna osadchai's project to search for the missing, find their relatives every monday at 9:30 p.m., their
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relatives no longer get in touch, in the connection , scary thoughts began to fill their heads, searching for their father who disappeared in mariupol, and hope to find their mother and sister in severodonetsk from her sister almost a year of history of families who want to find their loved ones and join the search, we are united and unable to make it so that on monday in marathon, the only news at 9:30 p.m. is a sports hall in which ukrainian athletes could train, but since russia started a full-scale war in ukraine. silence reigns here . russian and belarusian athletes are silent. they pretend as if nothing happened and with their silence support the murder of destruction and this brutal
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war . of russian and belarusian athletes, put them on social networks with the hashtags of the company, support ukraine on the sports front, silence kills with the support of the ministry of youth and sports of ukraine watch the project to find my ekaterina osadchoi from the search for the missing every monday at 21:30 night watch 1+1 we return to the air we continue our difficult
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conversation and here you know, friends, the first stage of the special information special operation of russia is mentioned, they tried to prove in this world that fascism in ukraine is nazism in ukraine in ukraine they eat children a-a ukraine is under external control anything a-a in order to at least somehow justify their military aggression, but they did not succeed and they moved on to, well, in fact, the next stage are trying to discredit this western aid . let's add to our conversation yevgeny fedchenko, editor-in-chief, column, director of the mogilian school of journalism. this is the most painful
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story for them today. they are trying to somehow influence the west so that the world does not hand over these weapons to us. how do you see this story playing out with emblems international and in general, with this concept, the fact is that the russians have really determined for themselves the supply of weapons as the main priority, and now all these materials that are appearing somehow fall into this narrative, which russia is very interested in promoting. regardless of whether we link some materials directly to the fact that russia is behind them, or indirectly from our point of view, if the capacity report reinforces some russian narratives , it works for russia and against ukraine, at the same time we let's not say that we know that some russians came with a bag of money and uh brought it there uh it works
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much more complicated and there are a lot of nuances of how this can happen " exactly such a report appeared. likewise, we see other materials in or there, a television film that appeared on its own, an article in the financial times, they all hit the same point, it is to draw attention to one simple point that ukraine is so uh black the hole is the abyss into which all this will disappear and therefore before how give ukraine weapons give ukraine some kind of financial aid think about where it will all disappear and of course russia gladly picked up this communication baton in the container here they worked well in communication literally the next day it came out in a tweet from the russian
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embassies in london, which is russia's largest communication hub in europe. where he praises everything and says, "look, you didn't believe us. now this is what an independent organization is saying. they have always been looking for independent sources that it is possible when they can say it is not we are talking about the fact that this is the way it is, it says there was some world-famous media or some human rights organization and when there was no such thing, they were forced to create even this, they were forced to come up with such moments and that's all played absolutely into the hand, everything appeared again just at the moment when it was supposed to appear, therefore it is absolutely obvious that this is a purposeful campaign that has its own time frame and its goal is precisely, well, if not to completely disrupt the supply of weapons, because it is impossible to do but slow it down

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