of the russian embassy in london, which is the largest communication hub of russia in europe. where he praises everything and says, "well, you didn't believe us. now this is what an independent organization is saying. they have always been looking for such independent sources that you can refer to when they can say it's not. " we are talking about the fact that this is the way it is, it is said there or the media, some world famous or some human rights organization. and when there was no such thing, they were forced to create even this, they were forced to invent such moments played absolutely into its hands, everything appeared again at the exact moment when it was supposed to appear, therefore it is absolutely obvious that this is a purposeful company working that has its own time frames and its goal is, well, if not to completely disrupt the supply weapons, because it is impossible to do, but to slow down on a practical level, to introduce some

additional intermediate links, to throw doubts in those countries in which these doubts can very well take root, where the political system can be well- adjusted to perceive such doubts, where in there is not a lot of media support in ukraine there, of course, it will work quite well and i even watched this film for myself, it is designed for an american audience . in this film, he also comments on ukraine, if you cross the black abyss, the weapon disappears, as well as the representative of the container, and this adds, so to speak, an additional flavor to this situation, and

there is one such important moment. what is she constantly compares this situation with afghanistan and iraq, since she is an expert on all armed conflicts that have occurred in recent decades, and this comparison also works against ukraine, because anyone who understands domestic american politics very well knows that the history of afghanistan is an absolutely losing story and therefore, in principle , public opinion there is also preparing for what the biden administration is saying. and now it is preparing another foreign policy fiasco, and we are already seeing more and more examples of how it all unfolds several such important narratives for russia are being built here, and they will certainly reinforce them in the united states, and they have such an opportunity at very different levels because of the experts who work with them due to the presence of social media, by the way, it has remained almost unchanged there, or

at least it is renewed in in principle, there are quite a few platforms through which it can promote such messages quite effectively, mr. evgeny, tell me more about the pseudo-european experts and how russia uses them now. well in fact, we have been working with such experts on this for more than 8 years and during this time we have seen a huge number of experts as well as various people related to the process of political decision-making and european countries that occupy by the way and still take an absolutely pro-russian position, and if in the first days of the war it was somehow not very convenient to express them, now all these voices have returned and they can be found everywhere from the european parliament to think tanks to human rights defenders as well as international organizations other than them carry uh, there are a lot

of journalists who work in international media, and that is, they are actually the ones who shape the agenda of how people should think about something and here it is necessary to do something else, then i wanted to add yes before your thesis on the center for countering disinformation well , i prepared a whole list of specific people who work in the kremlin, who help russia implement narratives, we can now demonstrate these people. they approached this very thoroughly, they gathered some professors there some institutes, some expelitics, there are high-ranking officials who were involved in these or other matters, and it is specifically described which cases they play, which they play out in the information space, that is, an ordinary american takes the morning newspaper yes and reads there, and an ex-e-e congressman a-a writes an authoritative yes who was there in three convocations of the congress there and writes that there is

no need to give weapons to ukraine because there are facts that these weapons end up on the black markets and everyone knows about it, and of course the american opens after that he has his computer there, he receives a message that help the ukrainian army to overcome russian aggression yes, and donate a few dollars there, he is thinking listen, well, i see a congressman informs me that there is no need to do this, because it will end up on the black market and he doesn’t do this, yes. and these seemed to be small elements, but they form such a global picture. i’m sorry for interrupting you. evgeny, i just wanted to add to show this story and absolutely. and this once again confirms the thesis that we are now dealing with with such a communication system, when it is absolutely unimportant what is actually happening in yours, in principle, it looks quite legitimate, because if,

for example, the united states gives ukraine weapons, they seem to have the right to ask these questions. and where does it go from this point of view? for example, if journalists raise these questions in the cbs film, it looks like everything seems to be normal, but who is and how to answer these questions is another matter and how it all comes together to form the necessary perception is a completely different matter history, in addition, we must understand that the western political system and intellectual system is based on the fact that there must be doubts about everything, that everything must be argued about, and the truth is somewhere in the middle, and the media itself and the system of political discussions in any it is considered normal for the country to doubt this, but it puts us in a very strange and uncomfortable position, because then what dmytro kuleba called

false equivalence, that is, on the one hand , happens put the victim on the other side put the aggressor and say and now let's give you a minute and a minute for you explain the audience will make a decision e which of you is more right or which of you is less right and this is happening again all the last 8 years since we are working with this material and this situation has not changed from them, the connection wanted to ask , yes, you were creating a center of strategic communications, yes, and information security, we somehow managed to understand in advance that russia was laying canned goods all over the world in information for that we could then play them out in the information space, and we understood that . and our community also talked about it, together with yevgeny and our other colleagues, we constantly talked about it , but i also agree that there is still a crisis

of journalism and yevgeny mentioned that these voices have been appearing for a long time, they actually appeared who ah supported russian propaganda, i’ll just tell you, they made stories for articles about fascists in ukraine, they actually got the story, well, apparently there are people of such views everywhere, but since they they showed ukrainian fascists and it was inserted into the russian narrative, it seemed that these were not just some fringes in ukraine, but such a large-scale serious movement. i want to mention this article from the times fanenson, which yevhen mentioned, and again, we see that they cast doubt on what i am talking about where do the weapons supplied by the west go, they are of an unknown type, we don't know where they are actually sold, there is no evidence at all, the question is simply asked, the question is asked, the question is asked , you are accused and then you have to dance

to prove that you are not a giraffe, you have to explain, and this is the kind of technology that actually works all these years, we have tried many times to prove to the west that we are not fascists, although from the very beginning it is already unfair, well, that is, there are objective data, you can count, you can look you can look and compare with other countries, no one knows how many fascists there are in russia. well, in fact, this is a massive, large movement , and we will now look at them. when they held uh there in the 13th and 14th year, uh, with a fastka, they performed at one school with the letter z er, and children so and so and so for them it's not fascism and we have to make excuses , but we, it seems to me that somehow our society reacted to it like this, we laughed with the russians when we heard that the russians were telling us that in ukraine the fascists had seized power in ukraine, we

laughed because we thought it was funny, because this has no confirmation because, well, we live here, i have often heard this very opinion, like, how could we take it seriously? and at one time, we did a study with colleagues called the image of europe in the russian media. the idea was to show the europeans what they say about them. do you believe that we are such fascists here? crazy people, look, they don't say that about you, and we traveled there to many institutions in almost all countries, showing it means making a report literally, and these were counted negative mentions, and all these narratives were counted and as a result, i remember we presented as a couple, and i remember one of the french diplomats, uh, took the floor and said, you know, it's all so surreal that it's hard to take it seriously , and we're so stuck, that's exactly what it is, and that's it. for us too surrealists, we also cannot believe that you

believe in russian propaganda about us, but in fact, while we were laughing, while we thought that everyone understands how ridiculous it is, russia was able to dehumanize us in the eyes of the russians, and that's why this extreme cruelty and that's why i recently watched the movie from buchi, where the russian military said to the journalist, why are you removing this dirt about ukrainians, he says, this is dirt and it brings us back to the holocaust. that is, this is this, and it is genocide after the thorough systematic dehumanization of our deprivation that this product was directed purely to the domestic consumer in russia and they that to russia yes, but what they said about ukraine in the west is definitely an undermining of trust and these doubts that ukraine is a subject and that ukraine is worth having in general, any kind of partnership,

but today they have a task in russia, but at the beginning they talked about it to discredit the supply of weapons to us, but i will not show screenshots of these messages, but just for the audience, we will remind them that they promoted in their in the media, the russian army captured french cannons , caesar da fake has already been disproved a million times, but they continue to talk about it in the media, the ukrainian military sells western weapons in the darknet, and there are completely falsified or even really posted ads with photos of javor-javelin , which they say you can buy. and this is the last one a masterpiece, which seems to me to be more like a cry for eternity that the armed forces of ukraine sold a heimer to russia for $800,000, because the journalist is sending this military expert to the french expert about what the french expert gave him this information that the armed forces of ukraine allegedly sold the heimers,

we can listen to it if it is a confirmation that the ukrainians have already driven us into one of the heimers for $800,000, or it is not yet verified information and there is a message on social networks about the fact that the ukrainian military sold us one haimasa yes, there were reports that they sold two saul caesar well, this was also reported by french sources, so far there is no photo video with them well, as you already know, almost all types munitions, well, munitions of the anti-tank guided missile defense system that were supplied by the zapods in that way or in appearance they have already fallen into the hands of our military, that is, in principle, it is possible to say that eventually some and these systems will end up in our hands in social networks, french sources said we we're laughing again, it's not funny to us, but it's funny to me, but i'm watching, i'm sitting excuse me, some hog who refers to some messages in social networks about what, how, how

can you sell hype well, i think that there, well, it's impossible at all, but not to discuss toilets and washing machines that they didn't rob, they think that maybe they can sell us. well, maybe they have one for themselves, but again, this is for the domestic consumer in russia and the external consumer in the world. if we compile , for example, these messages that we just discussed there, add here the secrecy report, the film for the eu, and more and more and more and more, then we will see that there is a big campaign going on, what will happen next? well, actually, we are really waiting for your return

, now it takes a few seconds to establish contact and we will get back to you about how long we have to wait next with this raffle, let's wait now yevhen will fix it from yevhen, let's go see the project to find our kateryna osadchoi from the search for the missing so that monday at 9:30 p.m. every day me and my team watch your video diaries i thank you for your trust your stories are full of love for life ah it was amazing but it turned into our here are my favorites happening my favorite city yesterday the shelling has begun today we are walking without an abomination we are not

praised even if we disperse the rally i am a ukrainian you hear go home boys above your youth you still have to live and live i love you i love you together with you we will tell the whole world the truth perished in ukraine unconquered cities of ukraine kremenchuk a modern industrial giant is hardened for hundreds of years of struggle for freedom in the cossack times, the city was an outpost against the tatars, there was a fortress built here by the french military engineer guillaume serde poplan kremenchuk was constantly in the center of armed

skirmish second half of the 17th century a period of almost continuous wars on these lands during the liberation struggle kremenchuk was caught up in the wave of the anti-bolshevik rebellion of ataman grigov 150 jews and communists died in the pogrom during the years of occupation the nazis created a network of concentration camps in the city where more than 90,000 civilians were murdered in two years and a prisoner of war, even during the war , a museum of local history operated in the premises of the entire synagogue, among the exhibits were sketches by the spanish master bartolome st-ban murilio, but then they were seen in the last their fate is currently unknown today kremenchuk reminds the world that ukraine is fighting not just the occupiers but absolute evil but this evil has no chance against the warriors of light

kremenchuk unconquered we will rebuild before we launch we will win that you are not news together we are strong europe cannot help but start reacting to this well, it is still a certain pressure, can they relax, can they really relax, supply us with weapons, help us, or has europe already learned to separate one from the other , look, there are officials, governments, there are partners who have learned, but we do not forget that they have voters and this is the key factor because russia is targeting these voters so that they put pressure on their authorities and this is the danger. therefore, we must understand that we will fight this for a long time and systematically and not get tired. it is very important to keep saying the same thing, their task is not only to deprive us of weapons and also to weaken sanctions. and this is

another separate front where a fierce struggle is taking place . russia is now trying to convince the whole world that sanctions do not work and that this is an absolute lie. she would would not have put so much effort into this propaganda if they really did not work and we know that little by little this stranglehold on russia's neck is tightening and that we will come to the moment when in russia these russians, who are already so poor, will become even poorer and hungrier and they will ask the government a i mean, it's just a process. i'm worried that governments in many countries of the world seem to be waiting for something like that, so that their population will start pressuring them to reduce aid to ukraine, so that they can lean on something, but they can't just lean on listen, we have cooperated with russia for so many years, we have so-and

-so turnover, we earned so much, let them talk about it, it's not the point, they need some kind of er, some kind of foundation and justification for what they are delaying with sanctions with the help of with everything and this is the support of the people and the desire for them to be able to sleep say listen well really well you see the citizens are saying that well help now yes yes the energy crisis is called europe this winter and they are starting to suggest to people let's lower the temperature in batteries there from 20 to 17°c there, we will turn off the fountains and the europeans are already like this already, this could already be the space, the next stage - it will be a voice in kyiv in other countries because there will be a food crisis, they are not getting what they should get from ukraine there will also be pressure, and it will be pressure on these rich countries, including, in fact, it is very unfortunate, this is what you just said about the pressure

of citizens and the way to justify these decisions of easing sanctions and reluctantly supplying weapons because it goes completely against values ​​and that this one the crisis of values ​​in european and international institutions is what it is about. well, it is already exploding, it must be resolved, otherwise we will go very far, otherwise we will simply, well, the whole of europe will be enslaved by russia, well, we also cannot constantly raise the e-e level of e-shocking the world, that's how it was yes , it turned out. well, i didn't. well, i was actually shocked, but now we can show footage of yevgeny, o, we already have yevgeny, then we'll show zaporizhia os, oh, yevgeny, too, what did we end up with, and how will russia continue to act out this the story of what to us to wait, and while you were gone, we discussed the fact that sometimes it is very convenient for a european leader when

such media of theirs appear, it changes public opinion inside the country and they have something to rely on in justifying the refusal to help ukraine, what should we expect absolutely? i think that er, we will see even more materials on this topic, which will once again er, lay this culture of mistrust towards ukraine, and it really plays into the hands of quite a lot of the government, who will only look for such a formal excuse not to do something. today, we note a certain slowdown in the pace of arms deliveries from certain countries. for example, we also saw this week that a survey was published in germany, where fewer people are now in favor of supplying ukraine with arms, that is, such things. they have a direct practical impact on the support of public opinion and we

have to understand that uh, they will gather somewhere and it will be exactly the same story as but what is it about us today with communication, that is, this was done systematically uh, such cool thoughts, theses, and we them we won't listen to the ups and downs of yesterday, it's true you mentioned bucha and this increase in the degree of this suffering, in fact, the problem is that the normalization of the suffering of ukrainians is taking place, everyone is already used to it, they looked at bucha, then they looked at vinnytsia, they looked at mariupol and it has already turned into a kind of certain show ago i was there, i would talk about the fact that here is our communication with suffering. it will work less and

less . unfortunately, it is very painful for us. the prisoners of war could have been destroyed, the russian military is simply silent, the international community says that our military uses the civilian population and actually, as evgeny said, in the perception of many, it is already such a black hole where everyone suffers, dies and everyone hurts when it is all white noise in ukraine, the war is dying there people ay-yy-yy, but they went to get new ones from us not long ago, i would , er, suggest to communicate more about the fact that we are able to win and end this discomfort with gas and food for you and end the suffering for us, give us weapons, impose sanctions and we will win, but in conclusion, i still want to say a positive opinion about the fact that the help of the west has such an effect on the events at the front, and the western weapons are so correct, they work great.

what the russians have focused on . they produce almost nothing except a story about sanctions, but this is also a very painful story for them, so we do not know that if we continue to receive weapons like this, then their defeat is absolutely inevitable. let's not have long left. yes, let's show the video that i wanted when we talked about what the level of shock in the future could be caused by what in the world. power units, trucks drive by, and an armored personnel carrier drives right into the premises that is located in the shelter of the power unit, that is, russia, in fact, and well, this is a fact, yes , they repeatedly had the example of chornobyl a on

for the chernobyl nuclear power plant to use power plants as storage for their equipment for their troops, he is shocked video and what was the reaction of the iaea, well, iaea is a very cool structure it is very similar to ennesty international which er yes, in which also work the representatives of russia, the deputy head of the mgt on a permanent basis, this is a representative of rosatom , which one is replaced by another. representative of the energy atomic energy of ukraine, he says that there is a structure that frankly ignores all these events, and in addition, in all these directives of the iaea memoranda signed on nuclear

safety, there is not a single point on how to respond to the military guidance of the waging of war on the territory of nuclear power plants . but nothing is said about this, and that is why they condemn the magat, of course, but they look at their fashions there and do not find answers to even simple questions , therefore they cannot do anything if you look at the financing of the capacity of international there are also structural subdivisions in russia and the funding goes to this same rights protection organization with the russian federation and the lion 's share of the money goes to this story with the funding of russia, we can't do anything anymore, we can only discuss like this, look for the right answers and hope that at least ukrainian society will be confused about these events. well, although i do not know at all whether there is anyone in ukraine who believes in this, i will point out that ukraine is ukraine , and in principle, it

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