tv [untitled] August 18, 2022 3:30pm-4:01pm EEST
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a column in the influential edition of roofs, a joint column where they wrote the following, called on the president of the us leadership determined to help ukraine with weapons, noting that a decisive moment is coming in russia's war against ukraine and at stake, including the vital interests of the united states, among the signatories of the authors are generals philip breedlove and wesley clark former us ambassador to ukraine john gerbs former lieutenant general ben ogest former assistant attorney general robert mcconnell william taylor mary ivanovych former ambassador to ukraine and special representative kurt volker well, many of the signatories there note that although in the baidi administration, we managed to successfully unite allies in the united states in order to provide ukraine with significant amounts of military aid, it has not yet been possible to formulate a sufficient strategic narrative in order for governments to retain public support for the participation of countries nato is in this process in what perspective. are
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you familiar with this column, what is its meaning, and is the help from the united states still insufficient, as the authors of this column write, please, during intensive war, any aid is not enough , this is absolutely, this is such a simple truth, that is, the more the better, i do not undertake to assert . military tasks i consider this statement positive without a doubt, because it is pressure on the administration from a rather influential group, which will be listened to and which can influence the decision-making that the authors of the column wrote
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providing aid enough to stop the front line but not recapture the territories that have already been captured by russia, the biden administration may not intentionally pull defeat out of the mouth of victory, end of quote, we will talk about this with our next guests, obviously ihor semevolos , director of the center for near eastern studies, was with us at communication i will only add that another topic for conversation between the presidents of turkey and ukraine is the prospects of exchanging prisoners, in connection with this, an action is currently being held in lviv in order not to forget the defenders of mariupol, the entire garrison of mariupol, which is now in captivity. well, we are moving on , continuing the topic, in fact, the appeal of a large number of very authoritative soldiers , military experts, e.e. diplomats, what is important to the
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administration of joseph biden under the slogan, in fact, are you arming ukraine until it's not too late to contact us oleksandr kraev, an expert of the ukrainian foreign policy council prizma p oleksandr, congratulations glory to ukraine sir, are you familiar with this column in the influential edition of roofs and here with this saying well, i i quote him once again, providing enough help to stop the front line, but not to recapture the territories that have already been captured by russia, the biden administration may not intentionally pull defeat from the mouth of victory, what do you think of the effectiveness and why this column appeared just now, please, in fact, it appeared as a certain catalyst for the change in thinking that the american administration is currently undergoing in many other western administrations of our partners. the thing is that only recently we saw that the thinking of ukraine should not lose turns into thinking that ukraine must win , that is, that is how we used to be given heavy weapons. yes , we used to be given quite active and military and
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political and economic assistance, but in fact it was just the level that simply kept us afloat now that we have started to have chimars when new types of long-range weapons are appearing, when we now understand that western intelligence is actually fully working for ukraine, this change in thinking has begun, the transition to the fact that ukraine must recapture not only territories and which currently controlled by russia, in principle, they should release their territory as much as it sees fit, that is, just words, and well, baidy said about it a few months ago, and now it is supported by actions, and therefore in many ways this column of the hill is retrospective. that is, it is on the wave of what it is thinking is beginning to change, this column somehow confirms that such a change is necessary, that it is necessary to look at aid to the country more systematically, more comprehensively, and precisely from the point of view of offensive weapons, and not only such that will stop russia, we also talked to the previous studio with the
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previous expert about today's meeting in lviv, reprimanding gutierrez and zelenskyi well, so far we have agreed that the only single meaning of our meeting with kutish and dugan is the issue of exchanging prisoners, fulfilling the obligations there, possibly by the red cross, which are in principle, the structure of the united nations organization in terms of guaranteeing security for the garrison that left mariupol, well , the grain issue, and in principle, well, olenivka, yes , responsibility for this terrorist attack in lanivka and that's all but rydugan probably brought some wishes from putin, possibly regarding the stopping of direct armed confrontation, the freezing of the conflict and the stabilization of the front line in those positions and on which it exists today. what do you think, who came to lviv with what and what profit can be made exactly for ukraine, it is obvious that he came to restore
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the reputation of the un in some way, but yarysh came to justify himself in many ways to the world community, which, well, with good reason, accuses the un of inaction and even i would say in a hurry sure, if we're talking about ortogan, i don't think that everything is so simple here, i don't think that erdoganism is simply putin's strong point, well, it's not his style, let's even just remember how the last meetings went, how good putin was, in fact, ordigan simply determined the agenda of erdogan determined who does what when and how, and this despite the fact that the meeting basically took place on putin's territory, that is, there was no final photo session, there was no final dinner, everything was like that and wanted vertugama erdogan wanted one wants to take an indirect position regarding what he calls the conflict in ukraine. why does it matter to him? the fact is that turkish geopolitics is in many ways keeping an eye on the middle position between russia and the west, because right
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now. well, let's analyze erdogan - he is the only nato leader that putin is willing to listen to . listens from the other side at the same time erdogan is the only nato leader with whom he is on an equal footing with the fact that he has contacts with putin. he also has quite good contacts with the americans, we see that now despite all the problems the white house is trying to restore adequate relations with ankara and this movement is bilateral, for example, the fact that turkey restored diplomatic relations with israel literally yesterday, in my opinion, this is a good indicator that turkey is playing such a double game , so erdogan's goals are much greater than just offering us negotiations for the sake of negotiations , really endogan wants to become a mediator in this conflict, but i want to do it only with the goal of becoming irreplaceable both for putin as the only western leader who is ready to convey his thoughts and unchanged for nato as the only one in the boarding school who can influence putin diplomatically, not only militarily, that's why erdogan continues his game,
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erdogan consolidates his position as a mediator, how can we use it? well, it's obvious that erdogan wants recognition, erdogan wants some benefits for his work, we have to understand that it's really quite a lot for us helped, we have to recognize this at the diplomatic level, we just have to use this chance to initiate permanent, adequate contact at the highest level, so that in fact this mediator began to work, well, also on ours, on us, just as it works on other participants in this confrontation, mr. oleksandr, i would like to return somewhat to the topic of the united states and that letter. mr. pana responded to the depression at the briefing that at each stage of the war , the us aid to ukraine was adapted to the situation at the front. now i will say unpopular things
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. they help, but can we now talk about the fact that, in general, the united states is satisfied with the effectiveness of the work of the armed forces of ukraine and with how effectively we grind in essence the russians and the longer this process of grinding will take place? it is better, that is, the liquidation of the russian army as such, the reduction of its power is the unconditional interest of the entire human civilization now, and the ukrainian armed forces are effectively coping with this, but if you give really high-quality long-range weapons that can lead to faster results in our favor at the front. that's how it
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works, and the losses of the russian federation may decrease somewhat, because simply in time we will, let 's say, be slower, let's say, grind them down you said this. that is, it turns out that the current situation can be interesting for our partner. i would really approach this issue from the point of view of the logic of the cold war. and indeed, the opinion that the novellas from the point of view of such logic has the right to exist, but we will not forget well, how is russia generally perceived in the states ? russia is perceived only in the english language, it is called lutskenny, that is, when the gun is out of its mind, russia is actually perceived. to support ukraine as much as possible so that they from the russians destroy more and hold their own and suffer minimal losses, but on the other hand, if in
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ukraine, well, this is the logic of the americans as much as possible to judge if the most accurate and most powerful weapons systems are immediately provided in ukraine. in fact, this can provoke these fools of the kremlin to reckless steps, namely the beginning of a nuclear confrontation or a transition to an almost nuclear confrontation or any other escalation, that is, the americans understand that it is very difficult to accept it is very difficult to perceive the russians as adequate sane opponents. as those who do not want a nuclear war, it is very difficult to hope that decisions in the kremlin will be made according to the situation and not according to to the fact that there is a bullet in the head of the conditional putin , this is the first thing to keep in mind, the second thing to keep in mind, the americans, no matter how cynical it sounds, understand that a maximally weakened russia will become a junior partner in the union with china, that is, in fact, russia is on the verge of collapse, russia is on the verge
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in the event of a complete defeat, it will become a vassal and resource appendage of china, and unfortunately, this will strengthen the sorry tautology as much as possible. beijing - it has a large human resource potential that will help it in many ways with its economic issues and with by his political influence and although this will delay its development in general, but the trump card in the provision of weapons by the americans to us is also such considerations that on the one hand ukraine must not just stand ukraine must win but on the other hand this victory will not cause a nuclear strike from russia and this victory has no meaning to cause the vassalization of russia to china. you mentioned alexander about china. china will send its military to russia for joint military exercises. east 20-22 e, the military of india will also take part in these exercises. belarus, mongolia, tajikistan and other countries were informed about this the day before by royster with reference to the
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ministry of defense of china. china's participation in joint exercises is not related to the current international and regional situation. and it is part of a bilateral agreement on cooperation with russia, according to the statement of the ministry of defense of china, the aim is to deepen practical and friendly cooperation with the armies of the participating countries, increasing the level of strategic cooperation between the participating parties and strengthening the ability to respond to various security threats stated in china. how do you assess this statement? well, china , russia and india, which also have difficult relations with china. let's say joint military exercises, please. in fact, it really looks like the formulation of a certain axis of the autocrats, you know, the dictators with ukraine, which stands together with taiwan, that is, in fact, on the same side you can take it this way. it is a really powerful message
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to the united states. because although he continues to say that we and russia are partner countries, we and russia stick together, he emphasizes to me that this is not a union at all and that china has no obligations to the russian federation, in addition, china is severing many economic spheres of cooperation with russia by the federation and therefore actually participating in these exercises - it is really more like taking it as a show, again, we look at it from the point of view of the logic of the cold war, because i repeat it on many broadcasts, but this is exactly how it is necessary to approach analysis of what is happening on the global arena, we are again in the situation where we are the closest to a nuclear conflict, but this is the only conflict that has never come, and from this point of view, it simply indicates that you do not think that what we, so to speak, missed your case on taiwan or we will continue negotiations on trade means that we will fully
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cooperate with you, in the last resort we always have russia, in the last resort we are even ready to tolerate the indians in order not to go down the same road with you. therefore, it does not carry any i would said a direct military threat, it does not carry any such economic geostrategic message - this is really a political and informational precedent that once again shows that china adheres to its information policy and will not deviate from it oleksandr anu one more statement i wanted you to comment on the telegraph agency of the soviet union reports on the statement of dmitry medvedev well, it is called tas reports and distributes the statement of dmitry medvedev, the former president and prime minister of russia, who is now the deputy head of the secretary of the national security council of russia, he said the following is about the actions of some countries, which are trying to ban the entry of russians, take away their visas, stop issuing their visas, cancel
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previous visas, he said the following: ordinary europeans, unlike their governments, have not lost their common sense and do not burn with the desire to sever contacts with russia, medvedev said, he also noted that the special military operation did not harm any of the citizens of the european union, and russia expects that the europeans will begin to call for a cutlet, as it calls for a response from the governments of their eu countries for those sanctions that harm relations with russia, which means that he is trying to play the role of the deceased zhirynovsky, we have already come to this conclusion but what is the purpose of such statements, will there really be those governments of the country that will react to this statement by medvedev maybe in hungary, in germany, there in portugal, in spain i'm asking ukrainians, but let's not forget who is sponsored by the russian top, the russian top, let's
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talk about european politics, they sponsor the extreme right and they sponsor the extreme left, and these and those have been playing very actively for the last few years in populism, that is, in essence, medvedev's statements, volodin's statements, or i would say that now it is zhirynovsky, the leaders there and medvedev and zlodan together are very actively trying, these statements are aimed rather at these anti-system politically marginal politicians, activists and parties who are ready to simply to fight against the ruling party simply because simply because their rating depends on these scandals on such statements, and in fact, well, medvedev's statement is a kind of new hothouse for these parties, these are new topics for flowers, statements, interviews, television plots of anything else just for marginal radical european parties for european populists, some of whom still have the audacity to claim that relations with russia must be restored, but we will understand that this is a
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marginal vote at best. well, if we take italy there, for example, where are the parties that still claim this conditional france, this is actually from 5 to 8% of the total electorate, although in fact it is a rather large part of the electorate , but it is not threatening to us yet, and the closer to winter, the more we see an adequate the perception of what is happening on the part of the europeans, that is, such statements will once again be nothing more than pro-russian populists. thank you to our guest oleksandr kraev, expert of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma. of international law. the former head of the ukrainian community of estonia will talk with him about the issue of visas and the demolition of the monument to the russian invaders in estonia.
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moreover, there was also a difficult situation around this tank, they even banned the entry of citizens of the russian federation to estonia for a certain time. among european countries banned the entry of russians with schengen visas, whether the entire european union will dare to take such a step, it may become known already at the end of august, when after the holiday season on an informal meeting will be held by the ministers of foreign affairs of the european union countries, the idea of not allowing russians on tourist visas is officially supported by the baltic states, the czech republic and finland. it is assumed that they may be joined by poland, slovakia and other countries that have already partially limited or complicated the process of granting schengen against germany, the position
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of which was expressed by chancellor scholz this is putin's war and that is why it is difficult for me to agree with this idea, we adopted far-reaching sanctions that affect the oligarchs, if the sanctions were extended to everyone, including the innocent people - this would weaken the effectiveness of the introduced measures berlin's position will probably be supported by budapest viktor orban's government is one of putin's main advocates in the european union it is unlikely that france and italy and other countries where russians leave a lot of money will join the idea but it is important that the discussion is at least heard i do not agree with the approach that we take the so-called average citizens of russia and separate them from putin is a war of buckets as a state, and without a doubt, russian citizens, due to their passivity, bear a moral responsibility for this the responsibility to ban russians from tourist and other trips to europe was proposed by president zelensky in an interview with the american publication
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washington post, later he clarified that russian refugees must receive the appropriate status and the rest , in particular, the so-called good russians, do not have the right to travel to the eu as tourists, there must be a guarantee that russian murderous tools of state terror will not use schengen; secondly, the very idea of europe cannot be destroyed; our common european values, that is, cannot be transformed europe to a supermarket in which it is not important who enters and the main thing is that a person simply pays for these goods. in addition to a complete ban on issuing schengen visas to russians, there are a number of ideas on how to punish russia for the invasion. one of them is to recognize refi as a sponsor of terrorism. this has already been done by the diet of latvia with a similar call. the us senate appealed to the us state department. however, washington has now weighed all the risks, and moscow has already declared that a possible
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solution will be a point of no return in us -russian relations, so i am glad to welcome in our on the air evgeny tsibulenko, professor of international law, former head of ukrainian zemlya from estonia, evgeny, congratulations and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i congratulate you. the baltic countries continue to approach the response to the aggression of the russian federation against ukraine and against the entire civilized world in a very systematic way, realizing that they can be next to estonia and here is the frontman let's say this movement together with latvia and lithuania and in the end, russians even with schengen visas are no longer allowed in estonia as of today, and hmm those who have these visas will be canceled when they leave . as far as i understand, please tell me what this means in practice, because logistically. as far as i
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understand, even with visas through estonia to the european union, russians will no longer enter any other country of the schengen zone. well, in fact, we are all that simple the fact is that back in march, well, in fact, immediately after the war went into a full-scale exercise phase in february, estonia introduced a ban on issuing tourist troops. but there were two problems. the first was the problem that you could enter with estonian visas. were issued earlier and the second problem was that it was possible to enter estonia with our connection was lost let's try to reconnect as if there is again mr. yevgeny can you hear us i can hear you the connection was lost please continue i say so the problem was that estonia banned tourist visas
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back in march. but there were two possibilities. the first possibility was to enter on estonian visas that were issued earlier, and the second importance was to enter on schengen visas that were issued by other countries, for example, germany and france. and etc. and the russians began to use this opportunity very actively not only in estonia with all countries that share a common border with finland and latvia , that is, they did not enter, for example, the detail of stalin's airport, they already traveled to any country of the schengen zone in order to somehow stop it, really estonia decided, first of all, as it was said to ban entry to estonia even with schengen visas that were issued earlier, but the problem is that the ban only applies to estonian schengen visas visas, i.e. estonia does not currently have the right to prohibit e.e. entry with schengen visas of other countries, specifically
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german or any other, therefore, e.e., the question e.e. countries, as was mentioned, no less, in particular, they are opposed to that. now, several countries, well , first of all, those that have a border with russia, are trying to find some legally correct solution so that russians can be banned from entering these countries. even if this germany will not agree or france and i am sure because it is being decided at a very high level, that is, in estonia, it is being promoted personally by the minister of foreign affairs of the formosferential, who was also in your story. i think you will know this legal decision, but you still need to understand that it will not be final, that is, russia will not be able to leave, let's say through the estonian border through the finnish border, but nothing
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will prevent them in this case, let's say to go to turkey and from there to germany if there are no p yevgeny and in general, say either laska, it’s clear with you, it’s clear, in general, what is the attitude of the public, there are already a significant number of ethnic russians living in estonia, by the way, what percentage will you remind us, and all of them are stateless? i understand that there are also people of russian nationality there on the territory of estonia, in general, what is the attitude towards the call of volodymyr zelenskyi to issue visas to russian citizens that europe is not a supermarket, do what you want, the main thing is that you pay in cash and , uh, already reacted a week ago to this statement of zelenskyi, the chancellor of germany is olafsholz he again said that this is putin's war, and that is why he does not support the idea of suspending the issuance of visas to citizens of the russian federation. putin himself killed people there in buch, gostomel, mariupol, lysychansk,
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kharkiv, and today eight people were killed in just one shelling in the last night alone, and 360 or 380 children died as a result of these shellings, how in estonia they perceive similar statements and a similar reaction to zelenskyi's statements, but in germany in particular, please understand that the opinion here can really be very different, that is, estonia and in the absolute majority, they support ukraine very strongly and they completely agree with this with very rare exceptions, in general, this is not well known, but i have already said about it even on your channel that estonia provides ukraine with the largest aid in the world if you count the percentages from the air force or the military budget to come to the military budget to help ukraine from the side of estonia, that is, no one helps like that. if we count the
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percentage . were imported during the soviet occupation, they usually behave a little differently, definitely not all local russians are like that, there are quite adequate people, there are some who even help the ukrainian army. but still, there is quite a large part of russians who really stayed all these years in the russian information field do not really support putin or at best give the impression that they are so supposedly neutral but the fact is that fortunately they have almost no influence on estonia's policy towards ukraine, therefore, in principle, a ukrainian - it should not be a concern. what is the percentage of russian citizens in general, or are all stateless people living in estonia now? well, russians are a village, and
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russian citizens are not citizens, citizens of estonia. there are about 26%, but if we talk about russian-speakers, well, again, it is mostly people from the former ussr about 30%. about 30, well, this is quite a large percentage, then please tell us about this situation in narva, literally, when i was there the day before yesterday, they safely dismantled this t-34 tank, i still do not know why it is still in ukraine stands in particular in kyiv, for example, on peremogy avenue and why peremogy avenue has not yet been renamed brest-lithuanian, that's another question, the tank was dismantled in narva in russian-speaking areas where, in principle, the majority of the population is ethnic russians as part of the efforts of the estonian government to eliminate all soviet military monuments . this is what the tank looked like before dismantling. the dismantling procedure began on tuesday early in the morning. it took about three hours. they calmly loaded it onto a military truck and drove it to the estonian of the military museum, the process was observed
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by journalists, the police and military civilians, there were no parallel work on the relocation of other monuments in the region in order to ensure security, the police introduced a curfew near the monuments, which means closing the road for traffic and pedestrians according to police reports near the location the dialogue police will work on the tank on friday. well, i will say that yesterday there were already caring russians carrying flowers to this place. what do you say about this procedure for removing the tank or everything went without any problems, well, yes, there were no serious problems. that is, 9 people were detained. during the day, then in the evening, two more people, that is, 11 people were detained together . but it was against the transfer.
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