active map and models, it's interesting that the russians also model similar maps, and we, for our part, perceive this as blackmail, and at the same time, some scientists say that in the event of an accident at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it will not be a repeat of the chernobyl tragedy. it will most likely be more similar to the tragedy at fukushima in japan a-a please tell mr. sergey the estimates that are currently available regarding, let's say, the wind room eh, they are approximate, but the scale of the disaster will affect not only european countries they will also affect russia. thank you for a question, i uh, and for an opportunity let's say this way to comment on all the forecasts that are now appearing

in the guise of experts uh. it seems to me that the picture you just showed is quite professional and clearly demonstrates uh, the spread of radioactive aerosols as a result of the release. that is, we can spatially assess a hypothetical accident, however, we cannot predict and from this model it does not provide information about the density of pollution, i.e. how intensively these or other territories will be polluted of course, it depends on the source of emissions from the activity that will be released into the environment, but even these e-e data are enough to understand that the consequences of an accident can have a cross-border e-e effect, and other models of e-e show not only russia but also turkey is polluted polluted poland romania and so on and so

on power plants, and when studying the consequences of the fukushima accident, the nationalists generally use these scenarios, but i want to say that they do not give a clear answer to how dangerous the possibility of an accident will be in terms of the protection of the territory from pollution. of a political nature to you because, well, in principle, europe is also preparing, if you recall in neighboring countries, in particular in romania, a few months ago it was reported that the authorities were distributing iodine tablets to residents and in

in principle, the european union was in the future, they increased the reserves of iodine in tablets, this population understands that they, too, live to some extent on the dustbin, as far as european leaders, they understand that in particular, their political career and political fate also depends. well, that's why that we understand that they are pragmatists and they are primarily interested in their career there are no borders, that is, its state borders are not important. yes, it spreads and that's all. and how conscious are they? look, i think it's just about the question of whether everything is possible. europe has done everything now in order to solve the problems related to the zaporizhzhia power plant. it seems to me that not to the end, but europe used the resources they

have, that is, it is possible that this is just an indicator of the fact that some of the european leaders, well, let 's say to a lesser extent, are commenting on this situation, that is, although it is happening here in europe, and that's by the way also a kind of test of common european thinking, i.e. understanding what are your borders, the borders of your country, it does not end in this case, i.e. zaporizhzhia is the power plant there, it crosses out all these things if something happens there, i think that i hope that after this meeting in lviv , this topic will be well, it is more updated, including for the countries of the european union, because we sometimes see such peculiar flirtations somewhere with russia, yes, that is, otaku, some kind of dual group. let's call it fear that these flirtations uh, they will become what they did, after all, their effect, which they are designed for, because in fact someone can be intimidated and use to supply us with long-range weapons, shells, ammunition, because they don't

want to suffer from uh, man-made disaster, maybe it can still play a role in the other side , what do you think, look here, what moment does it seem to me that, in principle, the european leaders, well , that is , just to be scared and succumb to this blackmail. domino, that is, if in russia they understand that such maps work, then they will use them in the future, well, that is, here kaputina is now deepening this phase. it is precisely because putin is afraid of a counterattack that he anticipates in this way, ah, the nuclear map was already drawn in the spring, but then there was a little bit left and actualization and now when we hear a lot of discussion about the

contrast regarding the issue of lend-lease. the question arises that ukraine can potentially receive additional weapons that we are asking for. this card has been drawn and i think that there is a connection here. that is, it is really an attempt to influence western leaders in the context of arms supplies because russia sees that actually, with those weapons which is provided to our troops, we are really fighting back, so the front line has more or less stabilized, and potentially the issue of contrast should actually be raised, and this is an attempt to play in advance, that is, to play on fears again on the fears that europeans in general have of western leaders regarding nuclear weapons, atomic winter, and so on. we planned to find out in what condition the personnel station oleg kori is in. inspector of nuclear radioactive safety of ukraine, mr. lies, you hear us and you see us. congratulations, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes

, glory to ukraine according to your forecasts or information that the personnel may lose control of the power units means well, first of all, directly answering your question, the risks of the personnel losing control, ukrainian personnel, now only ukrainian personnel are operating the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in accordance with the conditions of the license , and personnel who have passed the basic procedure of training and knowledge verification, so yes there are attempts by the rosa staff there to take part in this, but it means that they found out that we operate power units in accordance with the rules, regulations, standards,

we have a lot of other equipment, and it's simple it is impossible to operate the zaporizhzhia atomic power station by any other personnel olezhe and what is the responsibility here exactly well, let's take for example the responsibility of the head of the station, how much role does he play if, for example , decisions are made there that will harm many people, how much can he do and prejudice something if we say that this is a ukrainian employee, well, you know how russia, occupying the zaporozhye power plant there, violated a lot of international agreements, let's say international actions and of international rights, that is, in particular, the international convention on nuclear safety, which means the treaty on the

non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and many other documents. so, in this show, which takes place at the zaporizhzhia power plant, we see actions of nuclear terrorism, in fact, so that we report this to our international partners accordingly and er, let's say the relevant measures in this regard are taking er, so from the personnel point of view, we have very highly qualified personnel at zaporizhia and the power plant and at er is observed in principle in unquestionably in accordance with the requirements and rules of the safety culture, and uh, that means that the operation of the station is carried out by ukrainian personnel, but the pressure on them is serious, so olezhe and some experts even

express fears that any mistake can lead to even from our side, it can lead to a disaster, this is unacceptable, of course, it means that it is unacceptable to put pressure on the personnel, it means that in our country, the zaporizhia nuclear power plant has been violated by the invaders, one of the most important of the e-e methane rules of physical nuclear safety means that at the e-e npp there should be only those personnel who directly contribute to the e-e safe operation of the nuclear power plant. of safe operation, this is the russian military and russian personnel

, this means uh, contradictions according to the goals of uh, physical security, and this hanna activity should be stopped as soon as possible, and we are doing this from the point of view of uh, the ukrainian nuclear regulator everything is possible and uh at all levels from the point of view. thus, the staff is definitely under pressure, but this is an unacceptable phenomenon and we have wills in this . thank you for your attention. comment on the 174 containers with spent nuclear fuel located at the zaporizhzhia npp, how exactly are they protected and to what extent this protection is reliable. well, actually, colleagues, any nuclear installation that is intended for the peaceful use of nuclear energy is not designed for military operations. i mean, the peka of this nuclear

installation is not designed for the effects associated military actions and from the point of view of the storage of spent nuclear fuel, it is a modern passive system of long-term storage of spent nuclear fuel, which means it is passive in the sense that it does not require, let's say , cooling with some kind of pump or some kind of active fan. that is completely with the help of natural let's say so forces, er, heat removal from spent nuclear fuel is ensured, which means it is possible, accordingly, that there is an emergency situation

related to the containers that are stored above the waste storage facility, let's talk more, let's talk more, stay in touch with us , let's talk about how the ukrainian state saves its population and about the probability of evacuation in the event of an accident on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant will have to evacuate more than 400,000 people. this was announced by the head of the zaporizhzhia ova oleksandr starukh. he noted that the situation threatens not only the residents of the zaporizhzhia region, but also the cities of nikopol marganets dniprorudne and others fall into the resettlement zone 50 km from dnipropetrovsk. at the same time, he noted that it is

very difficult to fully implement civil protection measures or part of the territory is occupied. based on the characteristics of the consequences of the accident at the chernobyl nuclear power plant, if there were about two thousand fuel assemblies of nuclear fuel at the fourth reactor, then at the gas station six reactors and spent fuel storage up to 18,000 assemblies, that is, the power of the explosion can be 9-10 times more than in chernobyl, the impact can be 30 thousand square kilometers, that is 10 years more than the chernobyl zone, and the contaminated zone can be three times the size of ukraine, considering whichever way the wind blows, the number of dead will depend on how many will live in zaporizhzhia region at that time, but at least two million people will have to be resettled. the dnipro will be polluted polluted for a time that is impossible to predict, and zaporizhzhia will become unfit for living and farming, all this can happen due to the release of radioactive cesium 137 in quantities dangerous for human health

in soils and water bodies . of scientific affairs of the institute of problems of nuclear power plants, ukraine, mr. serhiu, please tell me that now the people who are looking at us like that and uh, hmm, given the situation that is developing around zayez, they will be able to panic and what do you think the government should do now besides that? of course, it is trying to solve this issue in any way, in particular. this is how we see the negotiations taking place in lviv with the participation of its organization, the united nations , the leader and the president. but should we now reassure the population so that they don't resort to hasty actions, so that they don't buy iodine, so that they don't buy against gas, or, uh, so that they don't get

into their cars and hmm, don't start migrating , the main thing that the government should do at the moment on my point of view is to stop, uh, throwing out such straightforward statements on the air about the consequences of uh, and uh, a possible accident, comparing it with chornobyl, these things are not comparisons, you can't take and directly extrapolate the accident at the chornobyl npp, for a car, five percent got activity that was at that time in the reactor and extra hunt it er directly to zaporizhzhia, firstly, a different design of the reaction, secondly, other safety systems, thirdly, er, we do not know the amount of activity, and this is in today's forecast, which is

published and podro-metrology, they said that they model the consequences, but without activity they do not know how much activity will not reach the environment as a result of e-e depressurization e-e in containers will work electronic fuel or other e-e sources such as storage real we can only hypothetically, hypothetically, say what amount it may come, well, but it will be on the conscience of those scientists who take the courage to assert about quantitative indicators and let's say it will be on the conscience of non-scientists, let's let it be on the conscience educational and it will be on the conscience of the russians in any case. well, the fact is that we are actually playing along with the russians, in my sole belief, by inciting hysteria in our society

regarding the consequences and catastrophic consequences and, hmm, the apocalypse that will come from the gas station, we do not know, we must say however, i would like to say a very important thing, you should not think that the management of the zaporizhia npp and the administration of the zaporizhia npp in general do not know about possible accidents. the fact is that at each npp emergency response plans have been developed and sanitary protection zones have been created precisely in order to predict and carry out both monitoring of adjacent territories and the implementation of measures as a result of an accident, that is, however, the period of war we cannot say how effectively why and how effectively the risks our uh, our government, the local government, as well as the staff of the uh station will be able to

respond to an emergency situation, so what is the question , but there are 10 chernobyls, a million people? speculation, i am not afraid, this is the basis. let 's talk about what efforts are being made by our diplomats, in particular, above the military and political leadership . the situation in and around the air force base can guarantee a gradual return to normal nuclear security, the russian army must withdraw from the territory of the npp and all neighboring areas, take away your military equipment from the station, this should happen without any conditions, and as soon as possible, ukraine is ready to ensure proper control from the side, have a suitable place, can be sent to the

zaporizhzhia station in a legal way, very quickly and as efficiently as possible oleg korikov acting head of the chief state inspector for nuclear and radiation safety of ukraine, i will remind our viewers, please tell us that we hear you, oleg, i listen so well to the point that they will do if they still agree and they get to the nuclear power plant what they can do is the main task well here it is difficult to answer your question so unambiguously and i will start from the point of general grounds means from hell for this means west a-a er-e ukraine with from the point of view of nuclear energy ideas in general in general behaves very transparently so we have signed an agreement on providing a guarantee

in accordance with the additional protocol to which the agreement means a sign of openness regarding the peaceful non-violent peaceful use of nuclear energy and accordingly uh, we ensure in all possible ways that the guarantees uh, that the relevant uh materials are used exclusively for peaceful purposes, which means uh, colleagues from makhata also understand what it means in ukraine, uh, they are fully implemented all these provisions of this agreement on dirations mean for today, uh, on zaporizhzhia formula three, the visit of inspectors of the magat uh, taking into account the fact that it is occupied is extremely dangerous, but since the situation, let's say so with

safety, is escalating and the corresponding provocations from on the part of the russian federation, it is the attention of the un and, accordingly, the director general of the ministry of defense is focused on the earliest possible visit of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, it is difficult from a security point of view, but this is a political issue, and how to do it, i better comment i won't , but since the procedure of the nuclear regulator is the main goal of this mission, if it happens, there should be a corresponding fact checking , so called about the fact that the station is captured, it means that there is corresponding damage, what is there unauthorized personnel, what is there, according to her , eh? let's say that access to the station is illegally

controlled by the russian military, illegally and illegally, which means that all this must be reflected in the report, which must be prepared accordingly and agreed with the ukrainian side, and this report by the iaea must become the basis for the further decisive steps of the international community in order to finally free zaporizhia nuclear power plant from the invaders, thank you so much thank you for what joined the conversation with us oleg korikov acting as the head of the chief state inspector for nuclear radiation safety of ukraine is also in touch with us and the last question to serhiy paskevich deputy director for scientific affairs of the institute of nuclear power plant problems e-e nan ukraine here from russia a statement has already been made by sergiy regarding the

unacceptability of the proposal in the original language, quoted in the original language. the director of the press information department of the russian federation, ivan nychaev, russian telegram channels report. and please tell me, uh, this is how now, based on the fact that the negotiations uh, uh -e let's try to combine this with e-e messages from our intelligence that the russians are already preparing provocations there well, of course, there is no relation to reality in the statements e-e of the russian ministry of foreign affairs or anyone else there e-e there is none background and this is of course ma-manipulative rhetoric

, which salt is used to justify the shelling of the zaporizhia npp in order to pass them off as the actions of the ukrainian side. in this way, they are constantly mulling over this topic, constantly throwing various information pretexts. so they will transport the electricity to the crimea, then they stop the reactors , then something else, something else. well, the point is that this is absolutely manipulation and has nothing to do with reality. of course, thank you. morning. i want you to submit your forecast or agree on my mission got through the territory of ukraine after all, and this is also a matter of reputation, it is also an image issue. what do you think? i think that the example of the grain track shows that if there is a desire of the parties of the first phase of russia, then it is possible to come to an agreement, and i have already

partially spared them, they said that in principle, the west has not yet fully used all the levers, in my opinion, that it could use for this issue, that is, the importance of understanding a-a potential threats here, it seems to me even, as it is not paradoxical, even more than in the bread trinity yes, well, in reality for all of europe, that is, i hope that in the end a solution will be found. what is this meeting in lviv and volodymyr zelenskiy at this meeting erdogan decides? we are talking about some compromises, in particular about the grain year, if you remember, there is always putin's benefit, what will happen here, what he will ask for himself, by the way, not only that there will be some separate steps related to the non-imposition of sanctions, for example sanctions yes, well, ask what was the situation with grain before the grain agreement, when russia received

a certain relaxation on the side of food items, and which of the tasks is directly solved by erdogan, taking into account the fact that he has already repeatedly stated that he wants to help e-e in the organization of peace negotiations directly and chapters of the state and president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi and putin, well, look, erdogan shows that he is probably the most necessary person in the black sea region, it is also important to him, in fact, he shows the turkish to the citizens because in turkey, by the way , elections are next year for him, too. he needs to demonstrate his leadership qualities here, and on the other hand, well, he became such a mediator in essence, that is, erdoğan manages to influence putin in a certain way. for example , western leaders did not always succeed, as we saw the situation along the way. well, of course, he can influence putin because he buys russian gas and buys earnings, but there is another point here, i

think that erdogan understands that russia is included needs turkey because, you know, there is a very popular thesis that china and, for example, russia, they will form some kind of conditional alliance, but in russia they are afraid of china, they understand that they need some additional other countries that erdogan could use to wash his hands in this topic, he is actually playing along in this situation because that fate may await russia in relations with china, and ivaniv is because russia may face the fate of an unequal partner and absorption, to put it mildly, in relation to china. hours with us via skype were serhiy paskevych, deputy director for scientific affairs of the institute of problems of nuclear power plants of ukraine, and oleg korikov, acting chairman of the chief state inspector for nuclear and radiation safety of ukraine. thank you. thank you to the viewers. studios of the tv channel council worked for you olga nimtsevaya maksym zborovsky see

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