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what can be crowned with the concentration of military equipment there? yes, i see it here. this is a recording of the strobe department of one of the power units of the station. specialists working in the nuclear power industry of ukraine, as well as the thermal power plant and the turbine department, are a bit similar . for one, and there is a machine with ammunition, turn around, it is standing near the main oil of baku, there is a machine with 128 tons of oil when it is working. it is very dangerous, if something happens to the ammunition, someone there will smoke what
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they are doing in their house, then it will be a big fire and fire brigade equipment will not be able to get to the main oil tank. and how far is the turbine department directly from the nuclear reactors, for example, or from those remotes and buttons that the turbine workers work at. the turbine department is, so to speak, a wall away from the reactor department. thank you for outlining and enlightening us. so to speak, in the context of the design of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it makes it much easier for us to understand the situation at this facility artem thank you conclusion for the
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courage, we understand how it can be now sensitive and dangerous. this was artem, a resident of energodar, an employee of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, a person who was at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in the first days of the occupation and is well acquainted with this facility. he confirms to us the video recordings that were published on social networks about the turbine department of the npp in which has a large number of weaponized equipment and i would like to note now an important statement of the state nuclear regulation inspection of ukraine, i am currently on the official portal of this state institution, the shutdown of all power units of the zaporizhzhia npp can lead to the development of the situation according to the focusim scenario. i would like to detail a little what this means, of course, we all remember the events in japan
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, which shook the world and eventually become , unfortunately, now an experience for building our strategy in relation to the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant we will talk about this with our next online guest. and i want to draw your attention to the fact that after a conversation with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of france, manuel macron , welcomed the possibility of an iag mission and maybe the un on the territory of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, we do not know what to expect from the russians . we do not know whether incitement and intensification of the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant can be a response to the active and effective actions of the armed forces of ukraine behind enemy lines, but consider such a possibility er, we are simply
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obliged, in particular, because our ukrainian intelligence warns us about this. oleksiy orzhel, minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine 2019-20 , is in touch with us. oleksia. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good morning zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant we managed to confirm the authenticity of the records from the turbine department, where a large amount of enemy equipment is now accumulated near the oil tank, as an employee of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant pointed out to us, in case something goes wrong, firefighting equipment it will be extremely complicated. tell me, please. energodar, the city of the satellite, is a direct danger in the event of an emergency situation on the border.
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unsuitable for life, in principle, for many years to come. we thank our scientists who are already trying now. and it is necessary to visualize the worst-case scenario of events. they demonstrate that the whole of europe will be inundated in the event that some emergency situation occurs in the coming days. mr. oleksiy, i would like to ask you for your opinion: are our relevant bodies and the relevant ministry doing everything necessary now to keep a hand on the control of the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant power plants, is it possible that communication with the international authorities should be improved a bit? your opinion is that i would treat the situation as critically as possible. therefore, absolutely all possible levers should be used. i understand that yesterday we talked about this with the secretary of and with the
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turkish president, because turkey can also turkey can also be under the influence of a-a negative disaster that creates a huge potential for a disaster that is created by racists and therefore, in fact, the ministries and any the state authorities, which have some influence on the situation , must use absolutely all possible means so that people from international organizations appear at the gas station, observers, so that they really see the situation on the spot and that they are witnesses and if a crime happens there so that they could see it. they could, accordingly, bring information to the international community or prevent this situation. let's see. i understand that the ukrainian authorities encourage this direction and contribute to such a mission as much as possible. and if look directly at the russian mass media, they
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say that they seem to be ready, but objectively, who is in control now, for today, it is controlled by the russian army, and yesterday there were also representatives of the russians, who is preventing them from allowing the megatet all this time allow the un to enter this facility in order for there to be appropriate monitoring, as we can see again, they only have to act within the framework of statements and not within the framework of real actions, and in fact, it is really my certain limited limitation, including what influence the ukrainian authorities can exert at the same time, well, let's say, since march 4, the gas station has been under occupation, and real risks have appeared, then when there is a prospect of de-occupation, there is a
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prospect of a serious success of the armed forces in the south. at the level of statements, therefore, unfortunately , on march 4, a certain initiative was lost. and since march 4, it was necessary to say all the time that the gas station cannot be part of the war in ukraine, the armed conflict with the russians. it must be withdrawn, because such objects cannot be elements of e-e those blackmailed may be elements or be at risk of a certain destruction, and this should have been done since march 4, and not wait for the situation when the rashists are used as blackmail. first, the largest in europe, and secondly, the energy it generates in our total energy flow in the country occupies a fairly significant share, but the russians
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are trying to switch zaporizhzhya nuclear a power plant, for example, they are not very successful because the power transmission lines in the kherson region do not like this initiative and simply fall . the state of the nuclear power plant, it has its own needs and its own needs for cooling nuclear reactors for cooling the first circuit a-a the fact is that it is very important to ensure the plant's own needs so that there are no corresponding risks of not cooling nuclear reactors in this case there is already a fact that there is only one line left that can supply three lines for its own needs today, uh, well, it is a subsidiary of uh, and therefore, in this
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case, it is a critical moment precisely to ensure the interaction of zs with the ukrainian unified energy system for safety of the operational activity of the gas station itself, if we go back to whether they can decide to connect it to their own network, so physically they can disconnect it from the ukrainian united energy system to synchronize the hare with their system with their load with its generation and the line they built raised 330 kilovolts to the it seems to have been directed here but there is also destruction there is destruction at the substation in dzhankoi so it is clear that the implementation of this plan and it is doubtful why because there is well how you said correctly , sometimes transmission lines get tired, we sometimes
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get tired of substations and other infrastructure on the other side, uh, uh, for s, it is really half the power, almost half the power of the energy, and this is the basic power that we need in the summer, it is 6 gb of installed capacity, and there are also questions and challenges regarding the passage of the opal zone in ukraine, and in summary, yes, they can, but it is practically possible to implement it from a technological point of view, they are a challenge. well, they are. i understand that in the basic scenario, this is what they planned they have to replace the loss of gas generation that they lost due to the fact that the boyka towers are burning. and we remember that they built a new power plant on natural gas at the moment, well, literally before
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they were ignited, they performed their functions or had suton some nominal or other reorientated meaning no they fulfilled their function by the way they had a certain deficit of e-e electricity in the balance on the occupied peninsula e crimea they performed guys they supplied natural gas to the newly built two generation facilities e-e to crimea for in order to cover, respectively, the load, the peak load, and currently today, they are destroyed and they do not fulfill this function, therefore, and they cleaned up, based on the fact that they need to find somewhere alternative e sources of supply from another parties - these are two different types of supply, the nuclear plant works stably and natural gas can be turned on and off, the energy balance can be reworked there, it is possible to somehow work with these issues, but the fact is that the occupiers really have very
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big problems in the south and they cannot ensure the safety of the infrastructure there can ensure that the new lines remain and the work of a and in this aspect, there is a question whether they will be able to connect a-a to the gas station to their system, please remind me what amount of generated in thanks to the eu, our country has electricity thanks to the eu. well, yes, in our country, energodam generated 55%, sometimes 57% of the total energy, and 50% from energoatom. that is, 25-27% is from gas stations, so you need to understand its economic consequences , actually of this situation and even more so in terms of the information that ukraine has ambitions to continue to increase the export of electricity, we understand that it would also hit us like that,
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oleksiy, i would like you to comment on the version of the development of the focusim scenario u.s now the state inspections of the nuclear regulation of ukraine in the event that the cold reserve that the russian federation says will be introduced for the fifth and sixth power units, what is the focus scenario, what is special about it for our tv viewers, please, this is the cheapest electricity if we lose from npp, i am afraid that for the heating season there should be no pro-export while importing electrical energy. if we are talking about scenarios, then the situation is really such that if there is a way out, if there is a tragedy, then there is a catastrophe. the possibility of pollution of the water area of ​​the dnipro is the possibility of pollution of the water area of ​​the black sea, and this is exactly the same scenario that was potentially focused on
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, and the zone of betrayal and the zone of negative influence are quite large and large, and it will be necessary, god forbid, to install some, what kind of winds that i the pollution of the cooling pool itself, which is the pollution of the dnipro and precisely in this direction. well, this is already uh, in fact. but there really can be catastrophic consequences, uh, depending on the scale of uh, the potential catastrophe of the question one block-2 blocks local emission of radioactive substances large-scale emission of traditional substances i would say that if they really clean the situation to the problems with cooling nuclear reactors, this is large-scale and there is a possibility of a disaster thank you mr. oleksii for these comments oleksii gorzhel minister of
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energy and protection of the environment of ukraine in 2019-20 a-a well, and in the future, the same about the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, about the state inspection of nuclear regulation, which warns about the consequences of the negative development of events at zs and about fukushima scenario, let's talk with grigoriy plachkov, a mexican from the state inspection of nuclear regulation of ukraine, he will be in touch with us in just a few moments. provocation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant yesterday, in fact, in two waves , the main directorate of intelligence reported about such a variant of the development of events, and here are new confirmations of information about the preparation of provocations by the occupiers er, they were made public yesterday evening, well, first of all, this is
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additional confirmation of information about the preparation of provocations by the occupiers, in particular, the licensed personnel who perform their functions on the basis of the license issued by the state atomic inspection are ordered to stay at home on the territory of the station, a small part of the operational personnel is allowed yesterday , august 18, at the evening meeting there were no representatives of rosatom from the leadership of the zs, despite the fact that since the occupation, rosatom employees were necessarily present at all in similar outfits, at this point they have left the territory of the nuclear power station altogether. well, taking into account the number of weapons that are currently located on the territory of the nuclear plant, as well as repeated provocative shelling , there is a high probability of a large-scale terrorist attack at the nuclear facility . please contact us, mr. hryhoriyu. congratulations, glory to ukraine. thank you for joining us once again
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to analyze the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. what is the state inspectorate? of nuclear regulation of ukraine informs us about the focus variant of the development of events in the case of a cold reserve that the russian federation and the ministry of defense are threatening to implement in relation to the fifth and sixth power units of the zaporizhzhia npp . at the moment, if we take the situation that is happening at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant , it is also the mining of its first and second power unit, and there is an official statement by the energy company that he died heavy equipment and ammunition are located, in my
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opinion, it is better to transfer all the power units located at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant because there are risks of shelling by heavy artillery artillery. military operations are taking place either near the site or on the site itself, currently, in my opinion, it is necessary to transfer all nuclear power units to a cold shutdown and give the personnel the opportunity to do everything in order to ensure a safe state of operation, but in a cold state, in a cold state, i blocked the power when the power units are in a cold state, this means that they
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do not work. of an uncontrolled reaction. as far as i understand, yes, look, it is very difficult to predict what will happen at a nuclear mononuclear power plant. yes, when the military is there, it is because, well, it is possible draw a very apocalyptic scenario and there is a letter from employees of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant , who say that in the worst case scenario, either these actions or inaction can lead to chernobyl, but i want to emphasize once again that if the plant remains with external
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electricity consumption, there is a possibility of supply electricity for all the necessary systems are important for safety, you see that it is already very difficult to switch the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to the crimea because we are tired near the opel the support in the kherson region is tired, the time in dzhankoy is getting tired, the transport to crimea is essentially the withdrawal of the energy generated in this way well, to be honest, the russians had plans and there was a program to switch the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to the distribution of electricity to the crimean peninsula with the subsequent inclusion of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in the e-e power grid of russia, but i
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say once again that at the dzhankoy substation, which is not only important for railway communication, but also for the entire energy system of crimea, that's why the transformer there got tired. often all these stories i am interested purely in the safety situation of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, what i don't know are the supports tired, the line did not work in dzhankoi, it caught fire, this can somehow be reflected in the danger of zs, well, look, in addition to the fact that there are external power supplies, there are also safety systems at nuclear power plants it is to different countries for a nuclear power plant in order to provide a certain percentage of its own needs for its work, in the same way it will generate itself for its work, the truth. and so, as far as i understand, we have a problem and risks
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that the russians are firing at these wires that pull the necessary energy to the air force so that it at least works on its own, that's why we're talking about this cold reserve, i understand correctly, but there are still diesel generators at the station, there is a fuel reserve and there is a possibility even during operation diesel generators and to renew power lines , that is why they were designed for such events, but they were not designed for such events, but as an emergency system to provide for one's own needs, even without power from the external power grid in lviv of a nuclear power plant, well, in any case, stopping all power units and bringing them to some kind of cold state, all this must be ensured by an uninterrupted external power supply. well,
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due to the russian shelling, it is impossible to ensure this, so the idea of ​​a cold reserve and shutdown of the nuclear power plant remains under great scrutiny. the question is the feasibility of this idea in general, but thank you , we heard your opinion mr. hryhoriyu hryhoriy plachkov, as the head of the state inspection of nuclear regulation of ukraine, was in touch with us. i hope we have something have clarified the situation surrounding the purely technical aspects of the operation of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, i will remind you once again that the ministry of defense of the russian federation is an official of the ministry of defense of the fascist federation ihor kyrylov notes that with the continuation of the negative development of the situation related to the shelling of the nuclear plant by ukraine, of course, because in their opinion, we do this we can consider the issue of transferring the fifth and sixth power units to the cold reserve, this requires appropriate capacities, which
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still need to be connected to the power plant and the main line in fact, the networks that supply the necessary energy to the soviet union are constantly under fire from the occupiers. we have already disabled three of the four such lines, and if this is not quite an adequate situation, let's actually continue and talk about the consequences . nuclear power plant, how to be, what to do, what is better to have with you for people who live in areas with close doses, not with us, contact anatoliy grindzovsky, head of the department of emergency medicine and tactical medicine p anatoliya, i congratulate you. we obviously have problems with communication. i really hope that this story is new
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. and i would like to remind you that the mayor of melitopol , mr. fedorov, noted that before the energy donation, it is necessary to somehow agree on the green corridors in order to at least to ensure the passage of drugs necessary for people in the event of an emergency at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant. well, for example, potassium iodide is the first thing that will be needed by people directly close to the nuclear power plant, but as we are convinced, in particular, in the administration of the cities are non-occupational, and the administration of a healthy person, so the representatives of the local self-government of the city of energodar in such cities, satellites near such objects, respectively, always have the necessary amount of vital drugs in the event of an emergency anatoliy hrynzovsky, head of the department of emergency medicine and tactical medicine, contact us at i thank anatoly
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and i congratulate you and glory to ukraine and i hope that what we will discuss today will remain only at the level of discussion and is equal to theoretical considerations, this is for now and for the whole song of the chernobyl period. god, the necessary sense cannot try that they can be specially sealed for this or that damage to a certain indexation and, accordingly, then leave our effective substances for less contour and which environment is subject-wise advice for people living in energodar in the zaporizhzhia region in ukraine and for europeans, on whom this can also happen, only taking into account the specific medical and technical situation that will be created at the nuclear power plant there, in addition to the e-e that has
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there is quite good physical protection, there are still conjugated active materials, if we are talking about the runation of the repository, then it makes no sense to accept negative ones, because we only have iodine there, it cannot be even at the theoretical level, if we lead to the reactor station, then again external forces are here they will most likely not be able to create a nuclear disaster, but the organization of the reactor life support system, as it was focal, can lead to those processes that the president will now say is popular, exactly like a nuclear explosion in the tractor, there is a possibility that the radioactive idiot will get into our sonya environment, according to the breathing of a person and a child, and there,
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of course, there was prevention known as potassium. tourist than the use of hydration to take as sometimes we try to do it in advance in advance there is absolutely no sense, but that we must act in accordance with those recommendations that will be heard over all loudspeakers on all tv channels, he is a specialist for what exactly in such and such a region it is necessary to start working in such and such a region. and it is then to accept the level in accordance with the 7 regulations that are provided for by the orders, and this will again be discussed if we tell you about how we see iodine in the only caries and the protection of the thyroid gland have no chance for transportation, a little bit from some workers to organs and
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systems slightly higher than stable components, unlike iodine, and therefore there again, uh, so i want the interpretation of radionuclides to organs and system of the body depends on the specific number of radionuclides of quality, that is, their spectral composition, that is, what exactly is the radionuclide of ukraine and, accordingly, the protective measures that each trainee has the opportunity to take to minimize the entry of these cars into the human body. emergency situations and tactical medicine outlined for us a scientific approach without panic as they say and without unnecessary emotions what and how happens in the event of even the worst case scenario today we are talking about theoretical possibilities in view of the future

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