which to correct first they take first they take yanukovych, then they will expel yanukovych so i think that ukrainians have a great, so to speak, great experience in correcting their own mistakes well, that is the end of our program i thanked victor bondarenko every expert in the bureau of analysis and policy and i have to say that now everyone who wants to will be able to watch radio svoboda, which will be on the air in just three seconds, russia is preparing a terrorist attack on the zaporozhye nuclear plant, ukrainian intelligence warns what to do if it happens radiation leak and whether it is possible to prevent a disaster at the largest nuclear power plant in europe kerch bridge next in occupied crimea explosions were heard in two places at once volunteers bought a reconnaissance satellite we

bought a satellite for what money and how exactly our own reconnaissance will help the army see freedom life good evening veteri freedom life a my name is sashko shevchenko, we are praying live on the pages of radio liberty on facebook and youtube, as well as on the website of the espresso tv channel, russia may stage a terrorist attack on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant about this the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine announced in the department that the russian military occupying the npp allegedly announced an unexpected day off at the station and today only operational personnel will be there. all other employees will be closed. they left the territory of the facility to the russians,

the ministry of defense said yesterday that, on the contrary, ukraine should allegedly stage the provocation of a man-made disaster at the zaporizhzhia npp, moscow warns that , citing a negative development of the situation, the fifth and sixth power units may be put into cold reserve, which will lead to the shutdown of the zaporizhzhia npp end of quote if all the power units of the power plant are stopped, it may lead to an accident similar to the one in japan the state inspection for nuclear regulation of ukraine has announced that the state inspection for nuclear regulation of ukraine now offers to listen to what the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, secretary general of ukraine, antony the spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia, ivan nechaev, as well as the speaker of the us state department net price russia must immediately and without any conditions withdraw its troops from the territory of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, stop all provocations, stop unconditionally all shelling, it is unacceptable that

russia is deliberately putting all of us on the verge of a radiation disaster world scale and we have to say as there is any potential damage caused to the zaporizhia npp is suicide unpleasant proposal 1militarized zone around zaporizhia npp, their implementation will make the station even more vulnerable. the brutality inherent in the russian war against ukraine. the united states is aware that russian troops are bullying and intimidating the personnel of the nuclear plant. we pay tribute to the dedication of the ukrainian authorities and plant operators to nuclear safety in these difficult conditions . we call on russia to stop military activity for the time being and return the station to the control of ukraine about the threat of a terrorist attack at the gas station and what to do if the disaster does happen

we will talk with the head of the state nuclear regulation inspection of ukraine for 2017-2021, hryhoriy klochkovy. good evening. from the available information, which is in the public domain, how do you assess the probability of a terrorist attack on the military and, accordingly , a catastrophe due to a probable radiation leak? well, first of all , it is very difficult to draw any conclusions because the nuclear power plant has been under occupation for 5 months and currently the fifth and sixth power units are working, but i fully agree with the president of the state and the spokesperson of the united states of the united states of america with the fact that the nuclear power plant is used as a tool for manipulation and for intimidating education and a probable

nuclear disaster because it is very difficult to calculate what the military can do on the site of such an object as the zaporizhia nuclear power plant because in international history and in the history of mankind such there has never been a time when one state seizes the nuclear power plants of another state. well, it is really difficult to calculate the possible, but there is an attempt to calculate. as skoda says, it can happen if the catastrophe will still happen, in particular, the ukrainian hydrometeorological institute has modeled where radiation can spread in the event of an accident on the airspace, taking into account the weather conditions exactly. this is for this period august 15-18. well, that's three days before today's date, but now, by the way, you can see this simulation on the screen can you explain in more detail where exactly the radiation can spread and which regions can be affected well, according to the assumptions,

well, first of all, the weather conditions change not in three days, but also in a shorter period. yes, in a day and in two eh, what i see on the screen. well, i don’t really like it as an energy expert, but it is enough to cause such great damage to both the ecology and the population not only of our country but also of neighboring countries. and what do you think, can they take into account those who are currently occupying the nuclear power plant , perhaps the military or political leadership of russia, that well, in the event that such a scenario of a terrorist attack is carried out, the regions occupied by russia and actually russian territories may also be affected. i think so, and in my opinion, that lack of intelligence must be compensated by some kind of instinct, precisely

preservation, because in the history of mankind we know enough of three complex accidents that took place and received antifreeze, my chernobyl and the russian federation also knows what damage can be caused by an airborne radioactive cloud, so in my opinion it is guesswork well, it’s not amenable to analysis, but i think that the instinct is to put preservation. well, kharkiv should work even in the military. russia and ukraine also talked, in particular, about the preservation of the instincts of the soldiers of the russian army, but i don’t know how correct it is to mention it now, let’s move on

. in your opinion, what are the possible scenarios of such an accident ? if they fail the cooling system, but for a start we will go back to the beginning, i want to ask if an explosion is possible, or radiation emission, some kind of catastrophe, if the nuclear power plant is fired upon. in this way, just shelling is known that they are being carried out in russia accuses ukraine of shelling ukraine accuses russia of these shellings they are being carried out m-m is it possible that an accident was caused by the shelling, either artillery or other non-projectiles, i can only say that nuclear power plants are not designed for the introduction or during military operations or on the object on the objects of the nuclear power plant itself, so predict what can happen and the same on even if you compare the focus to

that there were four nuclear power units on zaporizhia 6 nuclear power units and there are also on-site storage of spent nuclear fuel and a lot of nuclear material at the nuclear power plant itself, this is both fresh nuclear fuel and spent nuclear fuel, so there has never been such a simulation of such events in the world when all six nuclear power units and storage facilities are under threat . well, to say it is such an apocalyptic picture this has really never happened in history, but let's talk about the actual threats from disconnection from the power plant, in particular, the state inspection the nuclear regulatory inspectorate of ukraine explained that in the event of a shutdown of the power units, an accident could occur according to the fukushima scenario, because then

the cooling systems would stop working. well, as far as i understand, the russian side actually stated that based on a certain development of the situation there, they were ready to shut down two power units, you already mentioned that that these are those who are currently working, that is, they are blackmailing me. leave the fifth and sixth power unit at capacity. is it better to transfer it to a cold state, well, a cold state or to a cold stop state, there are different views on that? well, in my opinion, if the inspection makes a decision to limit or make changes to the license of the first and second power unit, then this should be done and and for the third and fourth and fifth. i'm

sorry, i just have to ask one more question. unfortunately, i don't have much time, but can you tell me what to do for people who probably live in a 30-kilometer zone from the airport? or those who live in the regions near which is there an algorithm of actions in case of a disaster ? well, once again, i believe that a disaster will not happen, but we still need to prepare and keep in mind that the danger is still there, and it remains, and i believe in our armed forces and in the special to the public service. well, it's new. we once had the opportunity to prepare for the disaster at the chernobyl nuclear power plant. well, we didn't have the opportunity to prepare here. it's difficult, it's difficult, it's difficult to model the events that can happen, in my opinion, the most terrible thing will not happen, but there are risks, thank you very much for your participation. until now, the person who

commented with us was hryhoriy klochkov, the head of the state nuclear response inspection of ukraine from 2017 to 2021. this man worked at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant for about 10 years. when the russian military occupied the hare, he continued for another three and a half months. carry out their work under the supervision of the invaders, the russian military established its own rules at the station and everyone who did not agree with the new authorities fired the interlocutor of radio svoboda for security reasons on the conditions of anonymity and agreed tell me about working with the power plant under the occupation, i was an electrician, they monitored the equipment of the unit, i worked for a long time, for more than 10 years, the situation forced me to quit my job for the time being and for my family, and leave here because the russian troops were captured there, today they were shooting in front of me oh,

they killed several people there, uh, well, several people, so to speak, it’s wrong, they are white, yes, they kept someone in the basement for a long time, then, accordingly, they extorted money for vosenykov for what to submit, and that is, they already they set their own rules, phones are not allowed, that is, cameras are not allowed because there, of course, many people filmed how they walk, that is, no one likes it, and whoever violated the rules, they severely punished, yes, they could say that the point is to fire everything and everything, that is, they set their rules as as if they had owned this station all their lives, when something happens, according to which the top management, accordingly, there is information, how long it worked there, all six blocks are now working from 1-2 feet, people many people left, the employees left, so in general, he worked at the station, that is , at the station, and there are people there, that is, in 2017, people worked there, that is,

now, if the station is coming out, then the cooperative staff, that is, i didn't think that now, i don't know, i don't know. it's very difficult even if the explosion continues in crimea this night, explosions were heard probably at once in two points of the russian-occupied peninsula, according to the information of the radio freedom crimea realiy project, last night the residents of kerch heard loud sounds similar to explosions. the crimean authorities, controlled by the kremlin, said that the explosion and what the townspeople heard were related to the work of air defense and in social networks they also reported possible explosions at belbek airport, which is near sevastopol, according to information from various local telegram channels, residents heard the sounds of explosions, and some heard shooting, i quote reuters with reference to local sources reported at least four explosions in the area of ​​belbek airport, as reported by the so-called governor

of sevastopol, temporarily occupied by the russian federation crimea and in the south of the kherson region, in particular, you can also add ballistic missiles here, and you can also add sabotage. well, of course, there is the head of the tabstvo. the object is even possible

it was a ukrainian drone that carried out development or surveillance or other functions and it is possible that it was struck, it is possible, again, this is purely an assumption regarding whether these means of air defense of russia can shoot down something, well, it must be said that they can really strike air targets, but i want to make a statement about the following, if we look at the previous few, we can see how the ukrainian defense forces quite effectively destroyed the radar stations of the russian troops in the south of kherson oblast, for example near lazurny, this is the south just the temporarily occupied kherson region, such a radar station was destroyed, a radar approach, with the effect of the s300, other means were destroyed, and after that , these explosions began in crimea. that is, you can to say that the ukrainian forces partially blinded

the russian troops in the southern direction of the kherson region and in the north of the occupied crimea and apparently these explosions there became possible, that is , today we can say that the role of the air defense means of the russian troops was somewhat overestimated the illusion that russian air defense, namely air defense forces, are one of the elite units in russia, or can they protect against anything at any point, this version has been refuted, it is demystified and more than that it is refuted by the example of these explosions, which we can see, and we can say that russian russia and russian forces miss the hits, russian military facilities are not so protected, despite

the fact that russia has put a lot of effort into protecting them, so the situation is i think it will develop as follows, that there will be more of this kind of cotton, because in my opinion, we can trace a certain strategy, which consists in the destruction of the nearest corporatist, that is, russian forces, starting from the right bank of the kherson oblast and then the left bank and the zaporozhye direction, especially under melitopol, where many strikes were carried out on russian warehouses . and now, uh, this cotton has moved to the so-called dalny tegu, which is located in the occupied crimea and concerns not only ammunition or shells. of direct aviation, there are already planes by musienko. i just wanted to clarify something about this, in particular, the speaker of odessa ova serhiy

bratchuk reported that the losses of russian troops , in particular in kerch, in particular in another point of crimea there will be explosions today, there will still be reports about them, and then there will be a position of the ukrainian side regarding the losses that occurred, but i wanted to ask if it is logical to assume that the kerch bridge can be the next target for such strikes, we all already see that kerch is probably reached well, i think that we have heard repeatedly from representatives of the military and military-political leadership of ukraine that this is a possible military target and we understand perfectly well that the lion's share of weapons is thrown over this bridge, which is then thrown into the war against ukraine, military vehicles travel along it, military equipment travels along it, ammunition is transported, and under

this bridge this transportation continues constantly, therefore, of course, from the point of view of the expediency, let's say, of the implementation of the disruption strategy logistical support of the russian troops, especially in the south. of course, an attack on this bridge looks quite logical. when it can happen, or what decision will be made, or will it be made? it depends on of our military leadership, but i admit that the crimean bridge and, in addition to the crimean bridge, we will still see many pleasant surprises for us. well, i just wanted to clarify it, the adviser to the head of the president's office, oleksiy arestovich, recently said that the destruction of the crimean bridge can have a propaganda effect however, in practice it is not so easy to do, he compared it to the attacks on the city of antonivsk in the kherson region, and that it was not the

first time that it was managed to disable it. well, first of all, i can say that on the antoniv bridge, for example, we have more information, we know that it was the times systems. that is, we can talk about it, as it relates to er, here, here, here, these explosions or cotton in the crimea. we cannot for sure to say about what this weapon could have been, we can state that it was powerful because the detonation was quite powerful, so powerful, which indicates that either the planted explosives were correct or the blows were precisely aimed at the target and themselves the ammunition that we used or the rockets, they also had an extremely powerful force, i will say that the antonov bridge is one example, but this does not mean that the

ukrainian forces can act on the example of the antonov bridge on other examples, other examples of mustard or in other places, there are other ways that allow put bridges out of order well, in addition, it must be said that if we are talking about a propaganda effect or something else, well, listen, in war there is always the same informational and psychological effect of propaganda , and we can see how relevant now, let's say these explosions in crimea to what extent they create, in particular , similar informational pressure and how much they hit the reputation of russia and how much they hit the reputation of the russian army, and we all saw the footage that was uh near the crimean bridge when a lot of people were leaving there actually ended the early holiday season therefore, it is also important, well, from the point of view of war, not only military actions, but also the informational and psychological effect, it is also

important, of course, thank you very much, oleksandr mosienko was not in touch with us, the head of the center of military-legal research, suicide missions, threats, illegal orders and a sexual nature, one of the commanders of the international legion is accused of this, who may also be wanted in poland for fraud, this is stated in the investigation of the kyiv independent publication, journalists discovered that one of the commanders of the legion may be piotr kapustynskyi, a former member of one of the most influential polish mafia groups in the 90s, who is now wanted in poland for defrauding the hermit legion, known as sascha kuchynskyi, who wears shoulder straps colonel, despite the prohibition of ukrainian legislation for foreigners in the military to have a rank higher than sergeant, on the condition of anonymity , intelligence soldiers from the international legion told journalists and kyiv dependent that kapustynsky probably forced soldiers to loot,

personally stole ammunition, and could give criminal orders to go to hot spots without proper training and informing the military that leads to significant losses among the soldiers of the legion, the fighters of the unit also accuse the commander of sexual harassment of female doctors the journalists of the legion wrote that the fighters previously appealed to the law enforcement officers of the parliament and the president, but there was no proper reaction , there are still no incredible abuses after the investigation was released, he is such a defendant, neither the ukrainian authorities nor the military leadership commented on the accusations against the international legion . we are in touch with the author of the investigation , journalistic publication, he is a dependent, anna myronyuk, anya, hello sasha, hello, let's start with that what is actually known about the accusations against petr kapustynskyi, what did you manage to verify what the soldiers of the international legion

told you? how he introduced himself to his subordinate, who, as we found out, is almost certainly peter the hood , a man who is wanted in poland for fraud and a former criminal a member of a criminal group of the 90s, in fact, according to the legionnaires, he gave orders to go into battle, we can see on the screen the video that they actually published as part of their investigation