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this really changes the situation, because it is essentially a reversal of combat actions, a reversal of the already active phase of the war, including on the territory of the supposedly safe crimea, as the muscovites believed, to which nothing can reach , nothing can fly there, as we can see , drones can also fly rockets may arrive, in the end, saboteurs may suddenly appear there, etc. in this military arena in the arena of hostilities, and this means that russia in this case will suffer more and more or this special military operation will suffer more and more collapse not only on the territory
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of ukraine, which they tried to occupy since february 24, but also on the territory that in the 11th year, that is, hostilities are active, some actions of the ukrainian side are already moving there, and this is definitely a plus for us, and this is definitely a demonstration for the whole of russia, what can be next, the second question, now i am already finishing the second question - this is definitely a demonstration for of the whole world that ukraine needs to continue to be helped or ukraine needs to continue to be financially and militarily planned to supply us with completely different types of weapons so that we can finally start expelling the occupier from the territories that are occupied as of today, but in general, as they say, i congratulate the muscovites on the that they are beginning to feel what they have brought to our territory. well,
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let's watch this video with sound, then yuriy podorozhnyi, your comments, fuck the stafflot, they struck again, or podorozhnyi, please. well, what ? nice video, good events, cotton is on fire, everything, everything is excellent, everything is according to plan, the special operation goes where it should go into the ukrainian crimea, and of course today it is very important to spread as much information as possible among the crimeans, among those who went there, among those who went there after
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2014 year and already believed that his family would be there, the homeland or uh, let them call it what they want us to. it is important that this panic eventually spread to the entire territory of the russian federation because it will help disrupt the mobilization plans of the kremlin, it will give the right public opinion inside the russian federation, because they were convinced that this war, which has been going on since 2014, for russia without orders, that those sanctions will not help, that ukraine is weak and will not be able to in a way to give an answer to that was that question or was that inner feeling that accompanied the russians since 2014. crimea
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today and crimean events are perhaps very important from a military point of view, because you and i see that the military itself is being undermined objects by the way, you know this is the mirror answer when the russians started shelling ukraine and firing tens or hundreds of rockets at ukrainian cities and constantly declared that we are only military objects, they tried to deceive the world that they are not civilians, peaceful territories they are shelling today, ukraine is really shelling military facilities in crimea, how is it? well, that 's another question. i think that the russians should clearly know that the partisan movement began to operate, including within the russian federation, or rather that the territory they consider to be the russian federation,
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and this partisan movement operates in the occupied newly occupied territories, accordingly, there are people in crimea who help the ukrainian army, correct everything, who are waiting for the approach of the armed forces of ukraine, who will fight back from inside the country, we understand this very well with you and all the events in crimea that have taken place in the last two weeks are talking about this. i think the military leadership of the russian federation understands this very well, so let's hope that these events you know how such a pre-holiday salute to our offensive and the liberation of the territory is not yet a war and the russians should understand
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that . today it is located on the territory of the autonomous republic of crimea with a russian passport, they collected their money and, no matter how they were there, they were not in crimea, but they were going to the depths of the russian federation. well, preferably for the urals, as the so-called governor of sevastopol, okeana mykhailo razvodzhaev, commented entertaining, he said, he worked on the next pvm post, air defense of the fleet shot down a uav, an unmanned flying device fell on the roof and caught fire, the defeat did not happen, right above the headquarters of the fleet. how did it not work out in the middle so it’s
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so clear friends yes let’s then move on to other topics smoothly eh about the monaco battalion well let’s go directly to the monaco battalion a little later about the detention of eh fsb spy in the parliament i wanted i want to ask you who, it seems, was setting up bugs there and about the plans of the fsb the day before carefully. before the washington post wrote about the fact that the fsb was so sure of the defeat of ukraine that it arranged housing in the capital and even prepared two formations of the gayator government for ukraine, there were different options plivovych, have you read these materials, what are your impressions? well, as for the spies in the verkhovna rada, they are in principle not what they could be. i think there are much more of them there, there are two whole groups of deputies. the question is why put bugs if there are there
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there used to be a whole faction, now there are two groups, if there are directly three dozen people there, or there 10 flowed somewhere, let there be three dozen deputy groups, which were divided into two deputy groups after the opposition platform for life, after its type as liquidation, but the deputies seem to be as if they are going on like how they vote. by the way, this is a very big question, and i would like to talk about the draft laws concerning the actual ban of these deputies from entering the hall of the city council of ukraine for plenary sessions, because it is not inappropriate that the people who ran on medvedchuk's channels, who told us for 20 years about the russian measure, that they are now voting in the verkhovna rada, and in words they have become very patriots, so to speak, that's why bugs are actually bugs, but today we need to talk in principle about the removal of these deputies from the meeting hall and in general, in principle, about certain legal possibilities regarding the
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deprivation of their principles of influence on legal and legislative processes in the country, this is the first thing that should be talked about, in principle, yes as for the fsb residents who were already looking for housing there, you know, muscovy for some reason thought that they were there for a week or two, someone said three days, someone a month, they would take over the country, and for some reason they really hoped that in fact the entire top leadership of the country and the community of the country and the local authorities very quickly they will give up, this is most likely the fatal mistake of the occupiers , so to speak . from the lowest level of government to other levels of government that they are so fearful, as well as the
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occupiers who will run there. at the first opportunity, let's speak frankly, the ukrainians broke these plans, the ukrainians simply threw them into the trash, and that is why, of course, all these fsb shniks, all these mufflers, all these putinists, they went after the russian warship, so they can do whatever they want, they could choose apartments , choose houses, choose just this once again demonstrates that the russians are brainy occupiers swampy is the population and ukrainians are two completely different branches of civilization, some of them wanted all their lives. come on ready to take other people's apartments, take other people's houses, destroy and rob another country's property, while others have been fighting for their freedom, justice of the territory for hundreds of years, that's
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why we are different this is, if you say so, such a lyrical digression, but in general, it is clear if you speak there in the context of the fsbshniks, in the context of the sleeping groups, in the context of the people's deputies who worked for russia, of course, if it is very much so to say frankly, this has been our ukrainian for many years. i mean, it is a big failure that they actually tolerated all these pro-russian divisive figures, that in principle they were here and that, in principle, we see the goals were their networks. i hope that the conclusions are it does not only apply to the special services there, it applies to anything that is related to the russian world. i hope that at least part of our people, part of our authorities, part of the rest of us will draw certain conclusions and we will no longer be on any
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stages, starting with agents and ending with various functions, these conclusions can be specific and how dangerous it is, yuriy podorozhnyi, but it is unlikely that they were and there are these sleeper groups, so in what number do you think this situation can be threatening and explode 0.5 i really believe that this the situation is very complicated. i am sure that we have , so to speak, woven into our ukrainian government a lot of people who work for the russian federation, the fsb, and it is very unclear to me why the security service of ukraine is so small gives information on the exposure of these networks that work for the russian federation, there are two questions right away, or because they are completely penetrated
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by this agency and we learn about this agency from some other sources, or they do nothing, and then it is necessary to create new cases it is necessary to create some other bodies a that will deal with internal security , expose these people, these people are still making decisions today, i am sure these people are still signing important documents that direct us very often not in the direction that is needed, we have seen with you for 30 years in history that the government makes some strange decisions in order for us to live there and exist and so on. serious that must be resolved and must be resolved despite the war
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today, this is a very serious issue of domestic politics, because we and dali will be trampled on the spot with the help of those cadres who were deployed by the fsb, who were deployed by the flint, and you and i have these i am sure from the military, from the army to there, i don't know, but actually the highest levels of government. thank you, gentlemen, for this discussion. andriy smoliy, political expert, candidate of legal sciences , international lawyer, yuriy podorozhnyi, political technologist, expert of the ukrainian center for social development. thank you both for participating in our ether and uh, we still have time left to talk about what we talked about in the dressing room in the morning. well, it's time today, what do you remember better? august, tomorrow is the anniversary of the introduction of soviet troops into czechoslovakia, which took place in 196 1969 68 i apologize in the year e
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and not only the troops of the soviet union were introduced, then the union connected with blood the polish army and the army and hungary e-e east germany and bulgaria together to czechoslovakia then it was a joint country of the czech republic and slovakia 500,000 personnel of the soviet troops were introduced, together it was 6,300 tanks and armored personnel carriers and 800 aircraft, well, a huge armada then simply occupied czechoslovakia, in which the reform of management, the reform of power, the so-called so-called prague spring , actually began update democracy, well, in fact, it was such a democratic revolution, the socialist view of the country was thought not to be liked by
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the old man of the kremlin. invaded czechoslovakia with the aim of suppressing the democratic transformations initiated by the local party leader oleksandr dubcek, in a few hours the country was occupied in prague and other cities, street riots began protests for several days in the czech republic tried to fight the occupiers as best they could, threw stones , molotov cocktails with sticks and even fists, soviet soldiers used weapons, according to the estimates of czech historians, up to 130 citizens were killed, more than half a thousand were wounded, the invasion forced the leadership of czechoslovakia to roll back the reforms, the
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prague spring was suppressed, the occupying soviet troops remained in the country until 1991, first president yeltsin and then putin asked the czechs and slovaks for forgiveness for the invasion, but after in the 14th year, moscow's position changed dramatically, now the propaganda machine tells that there was no other way out in the ussr, the operation was allegedly almost bloodless , and the occupation was successful in general. not combat losses, but 96 people died in the soviet army. during this operation, 10 poles were killed, the occupants were killed, one hungarian and one bulgarian. well, hmm, about the losses of the czechs . 000 e-e czechs among the slovaks then left the country
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and became emigrants after the soviet invasion. well, the main thing is that re were suppressed. this is the only result that the soviet union was interested in. the second year of the lviv polytechnic, mr. myroslav, we welcome you to our broadcast. greetings from the heart. glory to ukraine when we appeal to the whole world and call to pay attention to what is happening in ukraine, the russian aggression, and we often recall the conflicts that preceded it in other countries, that russian aggression and annexation, and how do you remember how soviet ukraine then reacted to the prague spring, uh, the whole union then reacted then in ukraine, i remember myself that i didn't
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leave my radio my ear was constantly glued to the receiver that picked up radio freedom signals. and by the way, it was on the radio that i heard the last very tragic moment, and i'm sorry that i'm going to tell you about it, because it's important . will go to the studio says says and then they are cut off. well, this is a very tragic moment, so that ukraine then monitored and monitored not only democratic ukraine, they also monitored the central committee of the communist party of ukraine, and then documents appeared in the 90s that testify
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that it was the communist party of ukraine that wrote a desperate letter to moscow that if you do not influence, this contagion will spread to ukraine, they very well felt the influence of the prague spring on the ukrainian national consciousness and, of course, it is a feeling of solidarity with the czechs, pain for them, pain for the fact that this hope is not lost for us prague spring dubczyk uh, you all know these versions of uh, socialism with a human face, it was a small window into which the nation could enter at that time, and there was then a certain hope for success uh, in the czech republic, but the prague spring is all i
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apologize for the suppression of the troops, this was crossed out by mr. miroslava, but this is the same. if you take the history of the 1968 operation danube, it was called the history of the ukrainian russian invasion of ukraine . they are actually very similar. i asked the russian paratroopers, they said that they had an accident on board, an emergency landing, they were put in the airport, they took over the airport, and then the main groups of units with tanks and paratroopers began to land there. well, this is gostomel. in principle, nothing has changed in the scheme of taking over countries from the russians in how many 60 years that have passed then, er, nothing has changed. they work according to the
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same textbooks, and i have the impression that some parts of this textbook are still preserved er some points from the textbooks of catherine ii, that is, imperial russia has standard rules and deception is a very important tool of their policy and tactics, the military, that is, thank god that we managed to stop them in gostomel and they did not go on to kyiv, the airport did not accept, that is, they landed only also advanced groups that were supposed to capture the airfield, but they were simply covered by artillery and stopped the landing of the main forces that were supposed to provide this exhibition. it is necessary well, not only the soviet union captured czechoslovakia then, please, you know, speaking in prison language, i must say take, take on the case, that is,
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don’t go alone, and also take those on whom the blame will be distributed, again, this is a very familiar method, and let’s say today this method is used in the involvement of belarus in the same way putin made attempts to involve kazakhstan and all those post-soviet asian republics. that is, it is the same tactics again pavlo well, we drew conclusions from the prague spring or not how massive were the protests in the soviet union, and if we take modern russia, it seems to me that now there is not even a protest movement that existed in the soviet union in 1968, with
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all the strength of the soviet regime at that time, who wants any protests then? now it's completely silent. i think it's possible to compare now and then, please, something can be compared, let's say , there was a very loud demonstration in moscow at pushkin square. if i'm not mistaken, there was natalia gorbanevska and others, the resonance of this this exit to the square was very powerful, er, all the radio stations were talking about it, er, songs were being created . you can go to the square, you dare to go to the square. you know, it was an ethical explosion of ethical potential at that time . among russian dissidents, i cannot say that there are no protests in russia today they were even
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individual, because now it is generally impossible to have any group protests. they were individual. so i don't want to humiliate er to say that not a single russian protested against the war, but on the other hand, er, a completely different ethical er- e situation in russia today there is no such tension of ethical protest, er, but these same if we talk about ukraine and lviv at that time, eh, i was a witness. i went to horodotska street, which was already coming from the czech republic, soviet tanks were coming back, there were many people, many lviv residents, and you know what struck me yes, the general silence of the people, the people stood
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and watched, er, the tanks are going, the soldiers got out of them, i don’t know how to say this correctly, they look and look in a daze because they were expecting a joyful reception of flowers there and so on, and it was such a tense silence, i don’t remember even some of the loudspeakers called out to you. we congratulate you and so on. as it always happens, he manipulated me at my certifications on the first of may. so, the soldiers felt very well that the people of lviv did not greet them with the word of god, but the czechs themselves, this is a historical memory, well, the czech republic over the years, after all, which have passed since the 60s of the eighth year, well, it has become sufficiently liberal to treat russians, russian business,
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russian money, and russian leaders . many suspect there even secret ones the connections there with russian, with the russian president and with the russian special services, that is the loyalty of the czechs, why did it arise only thanks to russian money and why is it from the old historical memory? well, unfortunately, it is trying with the passage of time in the historical memory of the czechs there are different uh moments actually during the prague spring and later the crackdown about their springs uh, they talked about the fact that the soviet union completely erased the historical gratitude of the czechs for the fact that the soviet army kept prague undamaged , i am not a historian, i cannot give how much this version are right, which is wrong, but this
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memory was the gratitude of russia to the then soviet union for the fact that prague remained unscathed as a result of the second world war . then, during the prague spring, the czechs were shocked. in which we are so grateful, it is going against us. i think many ukrainians in the east of ukraine felt about the same shock, well, how come, we were oriented towards you , and you will destroy us, approximately the same period of time for the suppression as planned by putin of ukrainians it has been six months already, the ukrainian people are putting up an unprecedented resistance in our country. independence day
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will be the first time in such military conditions. how do you model the situation on august 24, 2018 and after? there are many logical versions that the war will last a long time. i agree that if we take the current conditions, such an extrapolation really gives a long war, my intuition is not political , you know, some kind of calculations, but intuition says that everything will be solved faster, and some event will happen, i don't know what, but events that will change geopolitical situation and i want to remind you of the 1991
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year. the first referendum on the entry of all republics into the new union at that time. the majority of the population of the soviet union as a whole, but also the majority of ukraine voted for entry into such a union, i was shocked, and then in august coup and the situation changes radically, everyone wants to leave the union, and then the referendum on december 1 and ukraine becomes independent, that is, our current extrications that the war will be long. i think that they are not quite correct. my intuition says that we would really like to rely on your intuition, and there are reasons for it, myroslav marinovych
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