thousands at least, and then 500,000 troops from five countries from all sides came to small czechoslovakia, and it was definitely a terrible story. well, what will we talk about? of this story to our viewers in order to understand the essence of this conversation. therefore, three cultural institutions, the ukrainian institute of mutual arts and the ukrainian pen club, call on the cabinet the ministers of ukraine to cancel the order to the state cinema on the reorganization of the dovzhenko center do not see in this the government's intention to liquidate the institution that since 1994 has been engaged in the preservation, research and popularization of ukrainian cinema . cinema

, culture and organization of thematic events the ministry of culture and information-politics stated that it was not informed about the decision of the state cinema already with us is our speaker volodymyr shiyko , director general of the ukrainian institute at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, an expert in cultural diplomacy mr. volodymyr, please explain this issue to us, what happened to the dovzhenko center, good evening what happened to the dovzhenko center, i think this is a much broader issue, i can only comment on that decision what is the current state agency of ukraine on cinema issues announced without consulting with the dovzhenko center or with other cultural institutions in ukraine? that is, this decision, which is called reorganization in fact, behind it is fragmentation, the intention is to fragment the dovzhenko center, the national film archive of ukraine into three institutions, thereby depriving this

institution, firstly, of its integrity, and secondly, of the opportunity to fully carry out its statutory activities , because it is necessary to understand that the film archive is not just a room in which the national film fund or film font is an institution that this film font researches, processes, creates new projects from it, is engaged in the promotion of ukrainian cinema and archival and contemporary in ukraine such as the border, that is, i am this huge cycle of different processes, each behind each of which is a professional team of people, specialists in film storage, specialists in its processing, scientists, managers , communicators, and now this whole institution, which until now has performed this work super efficiently and coolly, is trying to break it down into three different components which, in principle, will lead to its liquidation to its destruction in its current form. and why can it not function separately

if they are crushed, you understand here with an analogy, let's look at the museum. imagine that the national art museum, the center of which is the collection, is the largest collection of ukrainian art in the world. and in fact, a large number of scientists who work in the museum and other services of the museum will now divide the collection into three parts. the collection will be given to one state institution. the rest of the workers will be left to some third institution. separate it into another institution. that is, it is devoid of any common sense - it is devoid of it, it is absolutely contrary to the practice of the world museum business. just like the situation with the dovzhenko center it categorically contradicts the world practices of conducting film archives. it must be remembered that the dovzhenko center is a member of the international federation of film archives, which imposes obligations on both the dovzhenko center and the state of ukraine to

process their film heritage in an appropriate manner, and now this is under i have absolutely no doubt, i will tell you one terrible thing. now it will be september to talk to mr. volodymyr. i imagine people watching tv now, and suddenly someone is watching espresso, and suddenly someone sees our future discussion with you, they know what they will say, what you will say, different officials are quarreling with each other and want to appropriate budget money because it is impossible for a non-specialist to understand rationally, well, there was one institution, there will be 3 institutions. well, what is the difference, what were the opinions of the state cinema, i do not know they probably also have to explain somehow , but they can’t come and say that we are grinding everything. yes, but i don’t see that everyone who is pro, everyone who is against

found some arguments understood for i apologize to the people of ukraine, we all pay taxes and us it is necessary to explain very clearly what is going on with that money , why is one center worse than 3? is it better than three ? is it not related to the fact that there was just one boss with a good salary, now there will be three bosses and all three need a good salary , they need that, that is then september and the neck they have to pay more taxes so that the three have, well, something shorter , so that people understand what i see now, what i hear - this quarrel. every day is the third day. i think i read the first three lines. i don't understand what is going on. well, absolutely it's like my profession, i have to somehow delve into it, study somehow, understand

nifig's hints, i can't do it with simple words, yes , mr. volodymyr, and therefore about the new videos. it seems to me that this scandal will lead to the plague on both of your houses, just like i once said one of the other disputes is here, you are not the only one confused, believe me, because i personally do not see a rational reason for this decision, and it is not about money, because it seems to me that these funds that the state has allocated to the dovzhenko center so far have barely covered a third of its annual budget and annual needs, the rest of the funds were earned by the center itself until recently. that is, it is definitely not about the division of non-existent funds, it is about very bad, unmotivated, unspoken, senseless management decisions, behind which there is no logic and no matter how hard you or i try i can't find her there now , i also can't find an answer to this question you ask me, and then here it's very

simple, then the critics should demand an explanation from the state cinema, don't criticize, don't oppose, say ok, we love you, we respect you, you'll do it you have such authority, i you, i have a mandate to carry out such actions, just explain to us, please , fool, and then it will be clear, then we will start to participate and also ask, like angelika and i, hello, where is the cinema, why do we not understand anything, but tell us why we already thought there, the money is shared here you don't even share the money, yours is standing well, the movie came out with its statement, it should be said it is not convincing and tried to explain the reasons for such a step, one of the reasons stated in this statement is cost savings, that is, they seriously claim that making one institution and a state institution will somehow save money on this, the fact that it is necessary to maintain three administrative apparatuses instead

of one, for some reason no one thinks about this, no one counts this money. properties with state funding on the basis of a specially created state enterprise of the ukrainian animation studio, well, this is also a very dubious argument because this market does not need to be created a state film studio or an animation studio, which by default will again receive subsidies from the state budget and will not be self-supporting at least for a while. that is, it will also be an institution that will launder taxpayers , and instead animation should be created by the commercial market and should be created private film studios, animation studios, and this is how to earn money , so i would say yes, gentlemen, both points do not convince me personally, they do not convince me

especially about animation, since i cherkassky died i don’t know at all i could understand creating an animation center named after cherkassky under his leadership oh here i am well he is an absolute master so to speak and i understand why but once i see something abstract in this i will tell you frankly we unfortunately have to finish what it's someone who wanted to become a boss and someone wants to shoot information, i think that here, uh, maybe he likes this at least, i don't know. that's the first thought i have, but we hope that some more reasoned, logical state cinema will provide an explanation and this problem will be solved by us at least under the director of the state cinema. by the way, who is the boss there, marina kudachuk, and she was once the director of the cinema in kryvyi rih, zaporizhzhia, and in zaporizhzhia. well, okay

, everything is fine, tell me. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for highlighting this problem, we did it and how were able to raise the issue on our airwaves, we hope to resolve it volodymyr shiko , director general of the ukrainian institute at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, an expert in cultural diplomacy was with us. that you can still ask your questions mykola veresna on our official page from the tv press point on facebook we still have 20 minutes ago i will voice the most interesting ones so let's ask the remaining questions first from the page because i am also watching espresso.tv on youtube from our live chat broadcast a-a broadcasting so, good evening said that the russians wanted to make a joke, gaulai trumnenke, and gordon pr, a joke, tell us. in

ukraine, we have journalism, you can somehow get attached to each other, then everyone else. an elderberry garden in kyiv, uncle. i absolutely cannot understand, and they said something funny here. smeshko was supposed to take some position there and become a gauleiter, but gordon promoted him. well, let's be honest, it was like that. pr in a good sense pr is generally relations with people they are always in a good sense, this is in the ukrainian sense, they are sometimes bad public relation well, there is nothing wrong with the word combination was smeshko a spy, this is absurd in my opinion i don't understand why some people do not believe in russian

propaganda in everything, but believe in laughter, the second is many years ago, one is political or journalistic, and not convinced that gordon is a journalist. and what can you so directly qualify him? yes, he is an informant, he is a mediator, and he has an interview with an interviewer, but there are journalists here. it seems to me that there are laws of their own. yes, he worked. there are no questions. and the third point is that there is journalism in ukraine, there is no journalism, but there are journalists, but i can answer that. i am not convinced that the person who asked this question will understand because if a person combines at an elderberry garden in kyiv, uncle, then she understands what journalism is, what journalistic youtubers are, then vlogs are now filming interviews there on youtube. every second person can do or call a blogger a journalist on instagram. excuse me, a journalist is someone who has

at least a journalist's license it should be used simply by laws, for example, a charter of some kind, for example, journalistic ethics must. stood a long, long time ago in the 90s, when it was created, and it’s just that if you are a journalist, you have to obey these ethical standards . the situation with the commander of the international battalion, a pole, a criminal from the 1990s patrol, a recruited fsb agent whose task was to discredit the international battalion and whether they have been checked. in our armed forces, everyone who has been assigned, listen. do you know what the author is?

it would be great if this author called the ministry of defense and said, i know a way to check the integrity of all commanders of all battalions, let him finally tell the ministry of defense how they do it, how it is done by fingerprints , if this particular print is stitched, and if the other one is not stitched, then we are still they called the sbu faster. i read it. i read it a little. well, i won't say what i studied, but i watched it and i will say that, you know, there is no such army in the world, where there would be everyone like this, you know, i didn't meet such people, moreover, very often, the army there are just people who are heroes in wartime and bandits in peacetime. because you know why. because war does not

tolerate legality. we want it to be that way, but war exposes both heroism absolutely and criminality, too, because you have the opportunity to find a weapon in your hands. to a store you can want to rob some store all your life, but you didn't have a weapon, now you have a weapon in war, there are norms and customs and the conduct of war, but they are not standard, but people will still violate it, you will not get away, and i absolutely convinced i always said that yes, we love our army, we think that our generals are the best in the world, we consider all our heroes, but if someone starts to prove to me that this is 100%. because there is no one who did not do something bad there, i will not believe the second cart command here, i see that the military

command did not work. and the commission did not come immediately to find out the true information by interviewing these and all of them and those poles from these ukrainians and those, i think there was an englishman or an american and so on and so on and so on, then that means the leadership of this particular part, he is a scandal . that is not possible, if it is true what they write there, it is even half the truth er, the behavior of this pole or this ukrainian is already, well, such a signal, it is necessary to respond to it somehow, if at all, i absolutely do not understand what to do in the military during the war, has anyone in ukraine thought of how to come up with an institution, or

what phone number are you calling? i did not know how to write you have a military prosecutor's office. you see a violation of something. you see a violation. you see that you have to do something. you are a military man. are not carried out, and we have the right to do so, we and we stood on the square and told the police that in hey boy, you are a criminal order, you should not carry it out, in general, a violation of military personnel, this is a separate history of ukraine to they were responsible if even this is our servicemen after the war. they should be

punished only during and not only after, but when and considering the degree of all this, so this is a bad signal, so to speak, but it is necessary, i hope that some measures will be taken and we somehow well, let's do it somehow, because the question is not what someone did, the question is not the crime, but the response is not the crime. if there is a proper response, then there will be fewer crimes, and if there is not, then let's move on to the next questions. what is orkostan not today? i'm very active as hell, i'm at work. i'm cutting the broadcast by 20 minutes. i wanted 20 minutes to answer questions and mostly tasks, because i'm here so that some muscovite would reprimand me for something. i really like it when they write natural, interesting questions are written. these are correct enough yes the fact that the zsu stopped the invasion of the orks is a

fact the fact that the orks will not advance anywhere is also a fact but will deo be able to buy the capture of the territory this is the question well, first of all, first, two are not facts, someone is a military expert or vanga in the end of the war, the results only at the end of the war and when when the ukrainian flag freezes over the kremlin, then we sit down and talk about this fact. when the ukrainian flag speaks about sevastopol, then it will talk about everything about what this fact is such and such if the thesis i would say good real soldiers experts who say yes if ours don't make mistakes because keep in mind there are also people sitting on that side and they also graduated from the general staff thank god that they graduated from the general staff not only in moscow but you and also somewhere there the whole

points, but keep in mind that we can make mistakes of people who have not made a single mistake in their entire life, i think that you can name them a few if you consider that they are people jesus mohammed buddha well that's like that such and such these people yes it is possible if you consider that they are people they didn't make mistakes, everyone else did that. keep in mind, well, to write this, you know, it must be done by the supreme commander or just the commander-in-chief, well, in a certain area of ​​the front, a colonel, a colonel, a major, something is wrong somewhere, and all and all these victories can yes, only i said that there are no orcs and they appeared. glory to ukraine as part of russia, death to the enemy, well, about the death of the enemy

- this is certainly correct . iverevanok is translating for the russians, we can, if the enemy dies, poison himself because they love him so much, there is so much gas, oh, so much, you can. well, let them roll there. opzzh about genocide probably means what they committed against ukrainians. we at school teach children because i just like how they destroy. i don't know. there is a simple definition. there is a definition of the word genocide. look, did they commit genocide? we are scattered with words. we are

very. i would say so. of the russian federation has signs of genocide, but i can't say that this is genocide, genocide, genocide, because lawyers have to be put in prison, moreover, i am not a lawyer, but all of us talking to lawyers say that it is so careful, you need to know why it's me because i'm not i am convinced that that person will understand how to file in international courts, it is necessary to count on victory in the courts and not in vain, it is not necessary to correctly formulate correctly and precisely on this topic so that you know the attack of ukraine on russia, it is almost not necessary to prove everything just like that once and for all and won the case file a lawsuit in order to create a genocide, there is a lot of legal, different circumstances, there is a lot of evidence, yes, this is, well, in short, this is one city - it is a

genocide, maybe it will help politicians can say any word like that and when you get into the more european the trial, the more fair and the more it is equal, on the same side, russia will also have some lawyers, it will not be a court for the new york trial, there were also lawyers, there were prosecutors, there were judges - it's a bunch and a bunch and here they are sitting and russians the russians will hire the best westerners and they will say that there is a sign, and the integrity of the signs is assumed to be necessary for the genocide of all the signs, conditionally we have six signs and the seventh is not here. therefore, this is not a proven fact. otherwise , it is better to go with the one where you have 100% iron absolute evidence and the fact that russia attacked ukraine

bombed civilians, the evidence is already there and they are iron and the genocide and the russians will be the leaders, we will be, we just shot, we did not because they are ukrainians, they i even know that they are the ones, we shot seven people together there were passports where it was written russians, for example, and once there is a russian, it means that it is no longer genocide, that is all. well, by the way, russians died , this one in kyiv was during the indicators a way to prove that this is meant a political nation, and in courts the word combination is not meant the following questions are going like this, mr. mykola. do you think that the armed forces of ukraine will finally get the opportunity to attack military targets located on the territory of russia and belarus with western weapons ? well, listen, why are they so

lazy? not the whole evening, because there are literally two two ka, well, not two frames there, well, probably 40 seconds 50 seconds evacuation of people er belgorod yes yes i watched belgorod belgorod russian federation russian federation yes they are fleeing there are miracles very often in war. yes, well, i can absolutely imagine that belgorod resident sitting and seeing from the window that something caught fire, and it may have caught fire because someone is making a barbecue. listen, the khokhlys are attacking. come on, let 's run around. yes, there's really a fire, and the two of them are already going out to meet the neighbors. where are you running? and

you, what are you staying? the khokhlys are already attacking, and they're already under the house and already half the city in cars, and they drove and drove in a war of such things. very often movies and especially as for our viewers, if you think that the united states of america will just publicly say that you know ukraine, and now we allow you to roam around belarus and russia, then it will be a little bit . more and more more about crimea they said very cool that a high-ranking representative of the administration of the president of the united states of america told the national security policy project that the united states supports strikes on crimea if kyiv recognizes them direct speech is necessary, of course we do not choose the targets and everything we have provided to ukraine is intended for self-defense, any goal they decide to

pursue on sovereign ukrainian land is by definition self-defense. here is the answer , please, there are a lot more, you know, washington was there now, this big article and there he criticizes us in ukraine zelenskyi why in advance why now why did n't they help since the fall why didn't they help immediately i will only say one phrase my grandfather said in my father i i always quote them his grandfather mercury father and constantine is here and get up, i pushed you there is no force in the world except ukrainians who would fight with russia america's help is a bonus this is our war we have to win we have allies help thank you but say why didn't you do this for us earlier and i can say and if everyone was really convinced, and the majority in ukraine and among the majority of politicians, that in three

days kyiv would be taken, they gave the americans a question, all hail to ukraine, ukraine lost the war in three days, three weeks, and where are all the high-mars? got into the brain a wonderful gift to the russian federation, that is why help increases as they see how we work, how ukrainians fight, an interesting question. we have two minutes. by the way, today seems to be the second anniversary. so, look, no, no, no, no, no, no, i’m singing this international again. so, keep in mind that the road to democracy in

russia in the best, most concise version is several decades, several cycles of elections, and preferably under the supervision of foreigners, if there is no supervision of foreigners , then a century for them to push themselves out of this imperial one, so that they and how they will do it, you know that they will come to the elections squeeze out the imperial ones, the nation must somehow be reborn, and the nation is reborn during the elections. it must make mistakes and then correct the mistakes, so the first time ukrainians will be wrong perfectly with yanukovych, the only one the difference with the russians is that if the ukrainians admit a mistake and this mistake, well, how can you say then they are sacrificial, if they return the mistake, they

fight with this information, this is a natural process, love for russia, listen, you cannot live in one state for 300 years and then say everything in two days this is we understood that they years after the program i gave a short lecture about peace about khmelnytskyi about a short such hour not four or five hours about khmelnytskyi about this about the second about catherine ii about betrayals of ukrainians what were the methods nominal traitors and half of what we lost, we lost because of the fact that there were always some traitors in the ukrainian nobility, in the ukrainian elite, we are always champions of treason, but mykola studied at the history faculty, very class