this is the politics of the administration in this war, and biden is generally understood to be a danger to the kremlin and victory in ukraine. oh, he and his team are always slow to make a decision, and every decision is a downward step, it’s like something, and when they explain why they don’t do more unfortunately, they are talking about the nuclear family, that they are afraid of a nuclear war, and as a result of this, as i have already told you, he shows that putin can scare us by this storm, and this is not money

, politics - this is weak politics that does not serve наши месяцерика трессы, therefore, we try to do it again, convince me to do it quickly and quickly , including big thanks, jongers, when the former former ambassador of the united states to ukraine , the director of the eurasian center of the atlantic council of the united states, was with us, and we will be back . literally in a minute, wild creatures are hunting for washing machines and we are from ukraine and we insure our machines online on hotline finance hotline finance, of course, insurance online if you

are allergic to the drug cetrin, it is not important, what kind of pet do you have, what flowers do you like or what your children eat secretly, it's three, well, it's important to block allergic receptors and protect the body from an allergic reaction already in 20 minutes, it's three, it works in the center of allergies without ukraine , it's impossible to destroy the soviet union, and here's that day came, and my dad and mom couldn't believe their luck that he all of us are also independent, to declare ukraine an independent democratic state on august 24, 1991, ukrainians understand more than ever what independence really is, those who

were deprived of freedom understand well what a great value it is. we will win and do so a state where ukrainians will not die, because independence is a state that protects each of its citizens, it is very important in this difficult time to be aware of what is happening, we tell the news and help to understand the events, but the war can make its own corrections if the broadcast signal is lost, see espresso on the satellite, espresso has now become available on two satellites at once. viewers who watch our channel on the astra satellite should readjust the tuner to the new parameters, because according to the old parameters the broadcasting of espresso ukrainian view will soon stop. thank you for watching in the cockpits of the planes behind the

monitors of the radar stations at the control points of the anti-aircraft missile systems at thousands of combat positions throughout the territory of our country, they are getting closer to victory every day. glory to the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, we continue the saturday program panasiuk and vitaly portnikov today in studio, we will continue to talk about the main main events of this week and for sure we will start with one of the most important events of this week on thursday eh the president of turkey and perdogan and secretary-general antonio otelish came to ukraine, were in lviv and talked about many important events, in particular about possible negotiations between ukraine and russia, but how

possible are they? the long-standing idea of ​​the president of turkey, for president erdogan, it is not so much the talks between putin and zelensky that are important as the opportunity to talk about them, because it is very important for the president to look like a mediator in this matter, he balances it absolutely this is a classic behavior for politicians of this type, on the one hand, he helps ukraine , baryaktars are sold, weapons are sold p- do you remember the first weeks of the war, barraktars were simply a salvation for the ukrainian army that when there was no such massive supply of western weapons and evdogan all the time says that he is for the territorial integrity of ukraine, he supports the crimean tatars , he contributed to the liberation, or is it for humor, a lot has been done on this track, there are other tracks, this is economic cooperation between russia and turkey, it is also

reprimand is very necessary because as a result of his voluntarist policy, the turkish economy is literally in ruins, he was in lviv here and the turkish lira was falling at the same time, his car was driving and the exchange rate was falling. %. and we have 22 years of war and turkey is not waging a war and it didn’t start now, of course, and that ’s why it is impossible for yordagan to put an end to economic cooperation with russia six months ago, and what’s more, he wants to profit from the fact that it happened because turkey is turning into a real trap for the russian elite, they are no longer allowed anywhere, that is, there are countries in which they are allowed, well, relatively speaking, china, kazakhstan , uzbekistan, thailand, malaysia, turkey, which of these countries can provide western service, well, faster for

everything, turkey is ready, there are western villas, well , that is, western-style villas there are beautiful in the middle of the non- sea coast, in which there are cities, let's say , already created a long time ago from the very standards of western tourists, there is an approach for the british, and say for germans in all these cities of course you can build your own villas buy your own villas putin liked to buy villas from his wife and his daughters there i don't know what putin has well now you won't go to dobi aritzu but somehow you want to live not in sochi not in chornoi sea ​​and they say there was already information that apartments are being built there for lina kabaeva, in relation to turkish banks transferring their money, the russian super-rich well, then the question arises. this must be explained somehow when the general in the west asks ryzhik, and of course what you do you do not introduce sanctions against russia,

moreover, you attract them to you we are trying to stop them and you, on the contrary, actually invite them to you why well, as dogan is said because i am preparing a meeting with putin zelensky, you cannot prepare it you are neutral, you announced against sanctions, you are fighting for putin to fall, and i am not doing this. i sympathize with ukraine, i am for it to restore its support . that is, in fact, in this situation, both putin and zelensky act rather as his own tools of self-preservation, on the one hand, on the other hand, of course, i would like him, you understand that he now has a rating of 46%."

a lot of things happened to them, they were put by the carrier, if they were military, they were shot, they were hanged, if they were civilians, odnan menderas international airport is well known in the world by ukrainian tourists , the name is not in honor of the head of the turkish government, who was destroyed by the military. and at the time when he was the head of the government, it was just such an image of the strong

of a person and how dovgan preska understands that losing power in turkey is not an easy thing, so they must not lose it, if he stops the war, then i imagine under certain conditions what image he will have nobel prize biden i couldn't, i was able to, it's fantastic, i'll tell you honestly i don't see the basis for this, but he is lurking like this and watching , a situation may arise when the parties get tired, someone gets tired, putin gets tired, ukraine will not be able to continue fighting and he is here as here with his proposals and this is such a serious tactic, that's why when he speaks what he would like to organize, he would like to, but when he will organize it this year, next year, or on the 25th, well , no one knows because this is a conflict without uh, chronology, he said without uh, forecasts, he said to you , mr. kerch, that predicting the future is not so easy erdoğan says that he would like to

organize these negotiations instead, the head of our ministry of foreign affairs said that this moment is not being discussed, ukraine is not ready, and ukraine was not inclined to such a knock instead aldogan says that they talked anyway about negotiations with putin, but are there negotiations with putin? at this stage, these are not concessions and whether this is erdoğan's peacekeeping mission. hmm, well, in general, it can be carried out. in your opinion, there are no negotiations . my post is that negotiations are a process during which some let 's say as well as a question that cannot be resolved otherwise during the course of the negotiations. currently, there are no negotiations between moscow and kyiv in principle. and everyone understands this, but you understand. what exactly is the meaning of negotiations for you, it is when the parties know what

they are negotiating about, that is, if there is a platform for victory, relatively speaking, if president putin speaks, i want you to know the russian crimea and the independence of the dpr of the lpr. in return, i guarantee non-interference in your internal affairs. ukraine can make any choice to sign an agreement with the united states there on strategic partnership, join the european union or nato what do you want to do? i am interested in these territories. this is an encroachment on the territorial integrity of ukraine, but it is a platform for victory when president zelenskyi speaks. i am ready to postpone the issue of crimea not there for 30 years, but for there should be an international peacekeeping force in donbas, and russian troops should leave all other territory of ukraine. this is a platform for victory. and when

president putin says i have destroyed you all, this is not a platform for victory. well, it is simply not a platform because, in principle, i will tell you quite simply all the time. i ukrainians should accept as a distance that these two countries will not remain on the political map of the world in the form in which they are, amit the current ukraine, nor the current russia, they have no place together on the political map because one one of them considers the other to be his territory and there is no platform because you understand very well that the real goal of president putin is the restoration of the border of the soviet union and probably without latvia, lithuania, estonia in 1991, simply because he may not want a nuclear conflict, if nothing else b nuclear weapons in nato, this option was also considered, they start with ukraine. it is absolutely logical that i, in their place, also started with ukraine, because without ukraine, this empire does not look restored and, most importantly, does not look european without ukraine is too far into asia, both in

terms of population and territory and civilizational choice, in order for the russian empire to be a player on the european continent. it should buy the territory of ukraine. this is absolutely logical . of russia, but from our point of view this is wrong because it is the occupation of a country that we do not consider to be part of russia, we should not be a tool for the russian empire, such cannon fodder what do you want and we have a completely different goal to defend our independence one to regain our territorial integrity two to get a guarantee of security in the form of nato and a guarantee of civilizational choice in the form of the european union three and four now the question arises whether there is anything to agree on with zelensky and putin, even if we imagine that they will meet. no , there is no way that the negotiations could look like in principle from the

russian point of view, when russia goes to such negotiations, if i think at all that this war will end without any victories. to be honest, no. there will be a victory, but let's imagine that these negotiations will be russia will try to create such an agreement that will allow it to return in 24 or 36 months and finally finish off the enemy, that's why they are saying the same thing again, absolutely logically, we are ready to retreat, but the russian status of crimea and donbas and demilitarization with denazification, what does demilitarization mean - you destroy the army, and with nazification, you limit the rights of those who speak about ukrainian sovereignty, because whoever believes that ukrainians are not russians, well, a nazi and this, by the way, today the minister of defense of russia absolutely clearly said that what they do to the nazis is because they are talking about the ukrainian organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army. and what did they do to the

ukrainian insurgent army because it fought for the independence of ukraine? well, that's absolutely you know logical things, i saw with my own eyes the issue of the newspaper soviet ukraine. it seems to me that in the 44th year there is the first secretary of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine mykyta khrushchev and the chairman of the council of the people's commissars of the ukrainian ssr demyan briefly addressed the same fingers of soviet ukraine to the fighters of the ukrainian insurgent army, you courageous heroes who fought against the nazi invaders, but now the time has come for all ukrainians to fight to expel the red army and the ukrainian insurgent army the enemy from the ukrainian land, well, for some reason at that time, nikita khrushchev and demyan korotchenko did not believe that the upa soldiers were nazis and that they were collaborators because of the nazis. they treated it somehow differently, then it arises

the question why do we have to respond to the myth that is now being perpetuated by war criminals through the mediation of soviet propaganda, but they need it because if we create a demilitarized country from a denationalized ideology, then firstly, political tools can be used to destroy it, and secondly , it is still possible still involve the military this is very familiar to me, which reminds me of czechoslovakia in 1938, at first hitler and mussolini agreed with the barren and gave effect that they will take the judges away that the germans live there. well, the germans are ethnic germans. as in crimea, the ethnic russians already explained it there . why, the same ethnic russia agreed. the next step was that czechoslovakia became a federal state with three identities and the

czech slovak carpathian rus, which is now the zakarpattia region of ukraine. the third step was that hitler summoned the president of czechoslovakia at the time and told him that he was signing an agreement on protectorates, otherwise he would bomb with the desire to destroy, but czechoslovakia no longer had its army and it already was not the only one. thank you, because each of the football players had their own political interests. slovakia became a quasi-independent state . subcarpathian rus was occupied by the hungarians. so this is a question of how timely all this is done, but now we have an army and this army can prevent the expansion of russian aggression, and if we go to such separate agreements with putin, it will not be

to mean peace, it will mean destruction in the near future if we go back to the meeting that took place in lviv and remember what else antonio goteres was there, what is his role in these negotiations, you know he has a very important role the role of these victories we greatly underestimate the organization of the united she is our favorite a topic that many observers talk about its ineffectiveness, i always say and no one understands it for some reason we have that the united nations is the most effective international organization that humanity has created throughout history, at least because humanity has existed for 80 years after the second world war, and it could already because what is the idea of ​​the organization of the united nations is the un security council, which includes the countries that won the second world war, but thanks to the fact that they are the countries that won in in the second world war

, they have nuclear weapons, the countries that lost the second world war and which were the same over the countries of germany, japan, they have nuclear weapons , it's not that they don't have them, they are afraid to mention it when the prime minister of japan was recently killed shinju aby last year i tried to start a discussion in the country about whether we do not need elements of american nuclear weapons in the country. i want to defend myself from north korea. there was a terrible scandal. i ask how can you say this. how can japan have nuclear weapons? the current neighbor, who was born in hiroshima, so he does not understand at all how this discussion can be started. and this was a close friend, he is the beak of them and an associate. well, here is an example: the possibility of dropping nuclear weapons in the un security council is correct

replaced it with the right of veto, it is better because the nuclear states can propose such a mechanism does not solve conflicts and that is why we look at how we do not have peacekeeping, many other countries also look at it, i would like them to be more serious but at the same time humanity exists, we are now approaching a situation this year when one of the nuclear countries can, two russias, china can break these rules well, then there will be a nuclear war, then there will be an exchange of tactical weapons, an exchange of strategic nuclear strikes, one of the parties will survive and create a new the organization of the united nations with a different response mechanism, but there will be half as many people already on the planet, maybe they will not need such a serious institution because it will be necessary to treat radiation sickness, it will not be the un, and then we will

say that this organization is not effective so far, it is very effective, what is being done, in principle, antonio gutierrez, antonio kutsili, what a strong mandate, he has a mandate from those countries that actually support russia in this war. well, by the way, he also went to meet with the minister of defense of russia, what is his well of course, all this was so, he can put pressure on russia , and not in the same way as a western leader puts pressure on it, because if these countries that support russia, they begin to see that their population can die of hunger, their support for russia somehow does not increase much. i quoted several times and this is what i would say is the famous text of this season, an article about the residence of the former presidents of liberia and nigeria in the magazine of economy of the bedroom of serhiy johnson and general lucerina bashanza, entitled

african victims of the russian war, russia cannot to afford it, because then she really finds herself in isolation, and that is why she decided to reprimand putin managed to convince himself of the need to open the ports, because endogan relies on his own interests and he knows what to talk about with putin in syria, etc. but gotiev relies on these interests of the conventional global south, which used to be called the third world, and therefore the fact that he came this says that we have not forgotten, we are watching him already, in fact, the meaning of his arrival is more appropriate not even to lviv, but to odesa to check how the grain works the weather has been working like this for two years, he came here because this is just a protocol, a beautiful protocol. he is talking to the president of turkey and ukraine, they are both participants in the grain agreement, he is the guarantor of all this, the old general is present here, but the main meaning was precisely when he arrived in odessa, that

is and there is a role, and i have to say that i believe that the secretary general of the united nations has done more in these months than he could have done, considering what he manages in general, because we understand that it is the right of veto when a country that is at the same time a permanent member of the council security of the un and the aggressor well, it is clear that the organization is paralyzed. well, you know that there was such a moment when such and such a war of such a scale, the un managed to send a peacekeeper. it was the korean war when the kimmersen troops of the grandfather of today's obsessed boy well, he is no longer a boy, of course , how did they attack the south and reach to seoul, and then the security council managed to send peacekeepers. but why? because we did not have the chinese people's policy at that time, the government of taiwan, the taiwanese clan, and the soviet union ordered it to take its place. joseph stalin or cornered the meeting of the un security council . and why did he throw it out, and because the man is incredibly

wise in his point of view, he believed that he would be able to drag the american woman out of this war because the peacekeepers were the americans, that they could really reach phemian there, all his plans were justified even after they they will almost free korea from the communists, he is not a shack because he will have a legitimate right and in fact it was such an idea that we allowed you to let a peacekeeper into our security council, but then we will simply destroy you here as well at the moment when it was already necessary to press the button and it was illuminated, he died happily on his sensor, but life is so difficult, sometimes even tyrants die and but after that, the soviet union of the russian federation never once bullied for the sake of security. and this means that they that these states are the heir what russia is like and russia itself is not yet ready for a nuclear war. so when we see putin speaking on television, we will say that we

no longer participate in the meetings of the security council, then i advise everyone to buy a lot iodine and that it helps, and there is another topic that i wanted to talk about, let's continue to discuss russia and the visa boycott of russia, which was proposed by, well, and which was also emphasized by ukraine, and later joined the statement, supported by high-ranking officials of estonia, finland, poland, slovakia, the czech republic, etc. and european countries, by the way, the czech republic currently chairs the eu council, and its foreign minister promised that this issue will be discussed at the end of august to consider the ban on tourist schengen troops for russians opinion. what levers can russia press to prevent this from happening? well, first of all, i believe that this

will not happen globally, that there will always be states that will consider that this is a wrong measure. who can these states be? well, this is greece - this is cyprus, this is germany and there will be different interests here, from tourist to humanitarian . secondly, it is necessary to clearly understand that the most active supporters for the sheghinsky visa not to be issued have become the countries that are queens and have a border with russia, which actually suffer from such the number of russians who have no other way to get to schengen because airline tickets are incredibly expensive and strangely enough, try to open some russian server selling tickets. for 220 and now it’s a different ratio now for what from poland you can

fly somewhere for 20 dollars, then from russia for 420 an unfortunate ticket to belgrade here there already eh it’s a short distance they keep canceling their flights are usually 200 there, 400 dollars. and now imagine that all these people are forced to go to literally several countries. this is latvia, this is estonia, this is finland , and this is through belarus. direction from these countries and are interested in ending it all because they believe that they are not safe. because under the guise of these tourists there may be saboteurs of the special services from such a large flow , it is very difficult to deal with it from the point of view of security one moment another, let's say i'm absolutely sure whether tourist visas are an element of the economy, this is a

tourist visa, this is a visa to rest, to see something, to do something like a pleasure, some kind of pleasure . well, if sanctions are introduced against russia, limiting the pleasures of its population, because it is clear that when you do not supply some goods, technology , iphones, it's a pleasure, the same thing, what's the difference between a trip to rome or paris or abroad from buying a new iphone, there's no need for it anymore, russia is a huge country, you can you can rest in sochi, you can go to baikal, you can go to friendly uzbekistan or friendly azerbaijan , you can rest in belarus. belarus is definitely not a worse generation than in poland . let's say

i sincerely congratulate the humanitarian programs of european countries that grant visas to people who want to leave the russian federation, who feel in danger and who do not want to take responsibility for an aggressive policy. i believe it is absolutely wrong. in principle, from a humanitarian point of view, to divide people according to their passports. i witnessed how russians took to the streets in moscow and st. petersburg to defend the article of the constitution that promised freedom of speech and assembly near the mayakovskaya metro station on the triumphal square in moscow or on anivskyi prospekt like these