the task of this platform is to use it to solve practical issues for ukraine and what kind of question is the question about the rest of the russian assets abroad because the 46 member countries of the council of europe are now 46 without russia and these are the countries in which there is a lot of russian money this is switzerland this is great britain this france is italy with solovyov's villa and other scoundrels there. that is, this is an extremely large amount of property of russian citizens and the russian state, and we are already in a pair. the difficult path is not easy, but it's just a gamble - it's one of those constitutions that should do it, the second practical thing - it's a tribunal, a tribunal against russian war criminals, pay attention not to putin, it's very important that there specifically pursue the person who killed a person there in ukraine, a civilian, i did not commit a crime

on the territory of ukraine, there is a general prosecutor’s office for this purpose, investigative bodies are of course very difficult for them, because a lot of these unfortunately, such terrible crimes have occurred, but there is also the crime of aggression itself, and that is that russia attacked ukraine for absolutely no reason. and putin himself and his closest circle must be responsible for this. and this can only be done by an international tribunal, which should be created. this is very important. i think that this was not the last resolution . committees, these are refugees. and the question is that these people should have support, that the rights of these people should be respected. we also negotiated through

the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe and adopted relevant resolutions, and this is also our contribution to helping millions of ukrainians who are now forced into mostly women and children who are now forced to stay in europe and we are very much waiting for them all at home after our victory, do you feel that after the start of full-scale russian aggression, support in the council of europe has increased enormously, i am the first i went abroad once. it was the end of april, just in time for the session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, because the first session was when russia was kicked out. but at the end of april, i already went there, i’ll tell you, i was so impressed. people saw that you had this. well, i’m a badge abroad, always ukrainian , and when they saw the colors of our flag

, passers-by on the street came up with the flags of ukraine. everywhere, the support from politicians is extraordinary, those who approached apologized for the pressure we argued for years, they proved that russia is not a country that respects dialogue, because they told us one thing all the time, we have to leave russia, because we need dialogue, so dialogue is so enlightened, they apologized and all that that's why the support has increased a lot and our task is, well, it is very important for all of us to understand that it will not stand on its own at a high level, these on every platform to prove, to argue, it is very important, ot diplo well here and if we don't do it, we won't get any results. by the way, i wanted to ask you that there are no problems with attending the session of the parliamentary assembly, because recently there was information that the ministry of foreign affairs canceled the diplomatic passports of more than half of the people's deputies of the motive with the fact that they did not

return them, the set deadline is also there, among other things, and your surname does not prevent you from working now, the issue has already been resolved, the issue has not been resolved, but this does not prevent me from working. i have not once used it since february 24 with a diplomatic passport, i traveled abroad with a regular blue passport, and accordingly, i never traveled abroad as they were simply allowed, and according to the law of ukraine, people's deputies are not subject to mobilization by law and are obliged to let them in, i cannot speak for all my colleagues because now there is a topic that some deputies are going on vacation there, i don't know who else. i have never left for any other purpose than the work purpose of campaigning for ukraine , eu candidates, speaking in the us congress to work in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, i have other goals, to meet with world leaders there, with boris johnson , lystras, the minister of foreign affairs, the prime minister, that we from other countries brought in a reed fund

, and so on and so on, that is, i had no other trips i have never used a diplomatic passport, but this decision is absolutely stupid, and because it is shown to people, it seems that it is so that deputies do not use it for some personal purposes with the department, in fact, as i said, deputies can leave more than that any deputy who now writes a statement again must be issued with a passport because the law of ukraine says diplomatic that a people's deputy receives a diplomatic passport during his term of office and full stop, this rule is actually absurd that you have to go and carry your passport back and forth every time between by the ministry of foreign affairs and by his own house. what is the meaning of this, well, no one can explain it, so i think that it is exactly those decisions, but you would ask, doesn't everyone always hear the government, where the government made a mistake, and i think that its it is simply necessary to remove this mistake and correct

it, because on the diplomatic front, why do you need a passport for two only, well, in principle, for one thing, er, russia can make some provocations against, including our deputies abroad, and a diplomatic passport is a certain protection, that's all that's the full stop and well, what russia will do , believe me, there is absolutely no doubt about this, and the diplomatic front is actually a front , so how on the front there is a place for aviation, artillery , naval forces, infantry, everyone has their own task and each task is important, so on on the diplomatic front, there is a president, he has very important tasks, there is a minister of foreign affairs and the ministry of ambassadors, this is very important , but there is parliamentary diplomacy, and it is also very important without it, it is also impossible, therefore, any steps to destroy this part of the work are wrong, everyone must work on ukraine i wish you success on all the fronts that you have listed. perhaps you will also teach other areas of work, so

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, e-e issues with mike shchur on tue-1, do you remember what did it look like, such a somewhat unusual format , michael schur himself, who seems to be joking but also tells some other news, and now we have the entire toronto television, we have a huge company and a huge team working on this content, and what's more, we even recognize some of the semi-authors of this project and co-hosts are no worse than roman vintonin himself. that is, they have a higher council. today we will speak as a journalist and co-host of the project with maxim shcherbina. hello, hello. before i start the whole further conversation, i would like to stop at that. and how are you in general now you define what you do. what is this? this is stand

-up . before that, we will definitely come back. i was also preparing for this conversation. suddenly i realized that i did not find any stories in any of your interviews about how you joined the team at all because there was this the process when, er, michael schur threw this request what did they say, join all the promising young people and let’s do something together as we are. in that year, there was such a period of renewal of toronto television when the people who created the project before that realized that they did not have enough resources and then actually they came. i'm sasha tolik. somewhere, it was more or less one time. call was somewhere in social networks. we are looking for screenwriters, but i didn't see it. that is, michael wrote to me because i was working in zaporizhzhia at the time on public

zaporizhzhia, doing such a humorous project. news from his finger, he was not known, but he was known in the journalistic audience , and michael obviously saw him and invited him to join the screenwriter, that is, there were probably some tests. well, he first started working and then periodically appeared in the frame as an author the co-presenter then became the editor. that is, you entered this project directly not because of humor, because you had not previously been seen in such popular stand-ups, so to consider some posts on social networks as humor then, more or less. oh no, i worked as a journalist in such an ordinary way to regional journalists how do you feel about humor in general? do you have such a gradation or definition? this person has a sense of humor or this is good humor. and this is bad humor. well, there are some basic

humorous things that can be broken down into understandable structures. that is, you are facing something, i feel that this moment of breaking expectations is also funny to you, but for me, things are always really funny. they are always a little irrational , that is, this chain of association that leads you to the punch line, let's call it that, and when in it disappears a little something is missing, but at the same time it's still funny. that's the one i love. why do you think there is so much humor now? here's the demand for humor in general. how can i explain? such a small background. i have humor - it's a very painful topic back in the days of knu e- and so on, then all these stories from the comedy club, regular series of sketch shows, that is, at some

point i got the impression that everyone is trying to make a joke out of everything, just to laugh, to laugh, and if there is such a thing if there is no content, then they will not accept this information, uh, you in toronto television are taking this as a guide. that is, you are purposefully trying to spin a rumor from serious news. history, because if you start talking about, i don’t know, the powers of the parliamentary presidential republic to a young audience, just quoting some uh, i don’t know, legislative documents, it won’t work. but if you wrap it in some understandable wrapper for of this young audience, if you communicate in its language with its memes and trends, then with

this help you can explain complex important stories, well, actually, this is the task of toronto television, that is, we have some plots or some , i don’t know, purely humorous stories, but this is rather an exception and rather, for myself, just to somehow release some tension and just , i don’t know, to practice humor, but most of the material is her, her humor is not an end in itself, uh, do you have a limit or a clear understanding, maybe even some kind of code for example that well, here we are already crossing this line and on these topics we are making fun of me because i remember by the way there was an episode of uh well that was already after the television reform and there was an episode where uh they analyzed one of the jokes i don't i will remember what kind of case it was, but i, michael

schur, said in the toronto edition that uh, it's a joke - it's just a joke, it doesn't work, you can joke about everything well, of course, you can joke about everything, but depending on who is broadcasting the opinion about what you can joke about it, because it seems to me that there are certain limitations, but they should, so to speak, be in the head of the speaker, that is, he should feel the audience, he should feel some kind of social mood, and he should understand what is happening around him so that his a-a some joke is beyond the limit if it is so for him so that it is adequately perceived because as a rule all are jokes on some society, they are outraged in some other context, because of some other eyeliner, they could work, but just a person who invented it and was joking. she did not somehow measure the temperature in the ward, that is, that's it dissonance appears, this idea about what to

joke about. it's not about that, you don't have such a certain rule, it's purely your ethical norms, each has its own, not that everyone has their own, because we are a team that has been working for quite a long time and we basically understand one thing one without any commandments of a toronto television employee, but some basic things exist on well at the level of understanding what, for example, we will never use any references to soviet cinema, never , that is, to, for example, a full-scale invasion until february 24, the percentage of any news from russia about what is happening in russia was simply meager in our country, only when there was some kind of incredible, other than living history, but then we might have taken it and it was a completely conscious approach because of the fact that if we remember what ukraine existed until the 14th year, before the revolution of dignity and the beginning of this war, in fact, there was a lot of russian in our

media space, our news was partly political from some political news in russia for show business there, 30% of it, 70% is some kind of russian woman, and we deliberately went away from this to show the audience that the world is huge , a lot of stories are happening, a lot of interesting people , you don't need to look at that russia, as we are used to it, we are used to it, look more broadly, but now times have changed, that's why so many appeared narratives about russia, and this is also already tired because something will continue to change. well, such a thing. we never joke about minorities, about those who are already in such a position of pressure within society and vulnerable because, well, it it's just unfair, that is, to kill people who are so vulnerable to somehow make jokes because it

's the easiest way in general for humor. okay, about the audience watching you go, he very aptly said that we're trying to somehow explain important things to the audience for young people through humor so that they have it is interesting. that is, you focus on a young audience. you do not seek to expand it. and for example, to make your audience i do not know people 60 plus, we would like to endlessly expand the audience to the maximum of it . increase, but there is purely for some technical reasons i do not know, this expansion is impossible on i do not want to speak for all 60-year-olds. for example, i can speak for my mother, who is 60 and it is difficult to watch our content, it is very fast, and there are many words that are incomprehensible to her and in contexts that she doesn't necessarily follow , that's why you don't try to adapt your content to it, explain some

words somewhere, slow down on purpose, calculating what mom and max shcherbina actually like no mom, i'm sorry, but we are still our target audience - i don't know that what 15 45-50 eyes in 60 there are incredibly larch people and in the 70s people who inside are much younger than definitely so we will stop here, we will definitely say that this is not agzm by any means, we just understand that there are certain criteria that we want whether we like it or not, we still determine this general trend, and unfortunately, often people there, 60 + 70 plus, refuse to believe in technology at all, and there is one who will even give me the heat with the knowledge of all such new and technical gadgets about how the views on your channel have changed now in general, something has happened since the beginning of the full

staff economy, the audience has increased by about 170 thousand, and the views have increased. probably twice, but this is partly due to the fact that the demand for content is huge. that is, it can be watched not only on toronto television, but in general on to ukrainian youtube now you are experiencing crazy crazy popularity and crazy growth ah and plus we have changed the content grid a little in general, so to speak , that is, before we had the main product, this is our sunday digest issue of the main ones and not of the main news of the week, now we have left it, hmm, because it is not in such a format that it does not have time for events that take place, that is, every day, something, something, somewhere.

it will be irrelevant, that's why we have now switched to the format of some daily bloggers and videos that explain some specific one story , plus we have added streams, this is something that did not exist before the war, this is a full-scale invasion, this is also due to the fact that the audience has increased a request for the speed of receiving this information , because we actually streamed every day for the whole of march , and this format was optimal at that time, it allowed us to somehow communicate quickly, talk about something, and explain things. in addition to my dislike of omnipresent humor, i recently developed a very persistent dislike of social media networks and now i'm trying to somehow understand for myself why i have such an attitude and impression even in one of the interviews by the way, we have a public culture with journalist andriy kulikov he said what, i'm not on social networks because i don't support the spread of drugs and social networks, to be honest, for me it's actually becoming one line somewhere because, in

addition to having its advantages, you can quickly transfer information, you can quickly do a lot of useful things for yourself find but at the same time, this powerful weapon, which often, especially in our realities, can affect, for example, the panic state of a person, this is constant tension and anxiety, how do you define social networks for yourself and how do you treat them because we understand that this is a super powerful weapon, uh, when we talk on social networks, we somehow pack a bunch of different stories into this bubble, because facebook, instagram , for example, twitter and youtube are quite different platforms with quite different moods inside, but still they even seem to me from people's folders, these are applications that are in the same folder and everyone uses these applications , but they, uh, i don't know, have different effects, so to speak, i still have a more negative

attitude towards social networks and if i didn't work where i work, that's mine and using them it would simply be reduced to zero well, not to zero to some er-er small gap where i learned some news from real close and familiar people or relatives. that person closes something skip and the well for himself never again this signal comes here and what is the content that you need, that is, rather, there is some topic that you can talk about. that is, there is some opinion that you can somehow comment on. works well, in the end, in fact, what you produce is mainly aimed at social networks, and although wikipedia does not define

youtube as a social network, but we understand that even similar algorithms work there, that is, what receives the most likes, likes , posts, reactions and is recommended for public people, what about the recommendations of your content, because i also heard that you spoke very favorably about the fact that sometimes the network can somehow corrupt the video. well, youtube by itself means that you do not know what is happening inside. that is, it is some kind of a chinese room from which you understand something . but why exactly do you not understand and very often you are faced with the fact that, well, everyone is trying to understand how it works in order to better promote the content so that more people watch it, you somehow analyze something, somewhere you build some promotion strategies e videos on youtube and beyond, and then you come across some stories when they don't watch, that is, there is no rational explanation for this except that you lack

some knowledge of why this happens. that is, there are videos that are pessimistic despite the fact that youtube has changed a lot in recent years and its content policy has become much stricter, this is taken into account when creating this content itself, but even if you have taken into account all these requirements of youtube , it still means that something may not happen, that is, there are some open swarms, for example, of some russian bots, complaints about reading videos well, complaints are not because you, as a content creator, only receive complaints about some copyrights, that is, when you use someone else's e-content, and some complaints youtube doesn't show you the feelings and vision of the world, and that's why some videos are pessimistic because there were such complaints. in general, the

russian audience doesn't fly much, but we are on the investigations that anatoliy ostapenko is doing. they mainly concern russia, the russian army, some specific ones . stories of russian soldiers in ukraine, we made russian subtitles for them. well, that's where hell began, because we even had videos that were trending in russian on ukrainian because they are interested in what is happening here. well, they react to it, to put it mildly, with a total denial. now, who has a kolshutar at the front, he is fighting, we don't know where exactly he is, but it's important to understand that this is how i got this impression what do you mean, you built a special system that is not tied to michael, because he is not there now, and so we understand that there are some objective circumstances and the

audience came, but it did not become interesting to watch. that is, it is not the case that the main player left and here you are now do not perceive this content it was was it on purpose? did it just happen slowly? i think it just happened naturally because this content was created by a huge group of people, that is, michael is the face of the project, the project’s mustache, and to a large extent, the project’s recognizability is based on it. but the genre of such nonsense, but how as a project, this is why there is a project because it can work when someone there leaves or becomes less involved in some way, despite the fact that in the near future there will be a return of the number of michael the rat's presence on the channel, that is, in

it will now be possible to create more more videos. cool. i want to talk directly about journalism now, because it is exactly that and there is a lot of it in your content besides jokes, and here i was once very touched. what did you also say in one of your recent interviews, what did we say ukrainians, ukrainian women, are constantly lining up treason, and you know, it tripped me up, it affected me because i immediately began to feel it. there are some clichés and some such frameworks that are constantly trying to be blamed, even sometimes by ourselves. well where did this betrayal victory come from, this popular meme or er joke funny picture that they are trying to equate anything into this frame i think that it is not relevant enough now about ukrainians and the fact that ukrainians have a request for this interpretation for appeals for the fact that

search and isn't there some trick here, it actually distinguishes us, it shows our level of consciousness, you don't think so, well , a vivid example, this war begins on february 24, ukrainians simply and ukrainian women are unbelievably united, just such a people , we wanted and dreamed about it all our lives but since it continues, that is, it continues somewhere there until the end of march until the beginning of april, when it is not as if it has subsided a little, but people have adapted, some internal stories are already starting to find out some political preferences, who, where, what, and how i am doing