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it is difficult, the only thing i can say with certainty is that in the cosmogony of this character, these are all the dates, and of course, the most hellish date for him is august 24, ukrainian independence day. i know that in english-speaking countries, they are called syteix, that's what shamans are called there by russians, and before some important dates. it's always traditional, and it's, let's say, the holidays of this audience. they try to cook i have some questions about whether it will not fly here or not . and the question is whether our armed forces are ready to respond to the questions
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that this audience can prepare for us here, and i touched the air a little bit. of your last guest, and i also got the impression from this side that such well, and i read the latest summaries from the front that our armed forces, in principle, have to respond and are ready for any surprises from that side, including on the main holiday of our mr. mykola ya. was asked about erdogan's independence day on august 24 i would like to clarify with you, igor. what do you think about ordinary doors? i would not use uh-uh, it means in phraseology uh-uh that putin is uh-uh the closest to the guard, do you understand uh-uh, it is absolutely clear why the turkish president was in odessa absolutely understood
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, turkey has been trying to play the role of a regional superpower for quite a long time, and this requires appropriate political behavior, including in such difficult situations, today, from a political point of view, for erdogan, it is a russian situation aggression in ukraine should not be killed because turkey is our traditional long-standing neighbor, a neighbor with which we have a history. have seen, he must appear everywhere where important events are taking place, the president of turkey perfectly understands what is
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happening in ukraine in connection with russian aggression, that extremely important events are important, if you are again, i am the last few weeks, literally when i am checking the poles, who what happened in the second world war in this part of the world, how turkey behaved , including turkey, there are a lot of interesting parallels... turkey has always been and will be our neighbor, so i don't think that the moscow kremlin client it will be possible to buy such a political leader as the president of turkey, especially erdogan, who has certain political ambitions. that's why it is necessary. what was the secretary general of the united nations doing there? that's another matter here. many practical questions, including questions about the importance of the meeting of the two regional
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leaders, let's call things by their names , the president of ukraine and the president of turkey, in these conditions, she is objectively, well, it just so happened that we cannot do without her it took us a few minutes, and if we are talking about p. gauthier, what about the un, and it is being discussed very actively now, at least in eastern europe, and it has been reported in ukraine that it is armless, it is not needed, this un can not perform any tasks there on its own in 45-46 years, they asked you to say that we can expect some reforms of the un and-y. i just, literally, such a simple question. is it possible or
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not , and i have a very simple answer? er, this meeting , er, in odessa, i went to my bookshelf and found a book like this. now i will show it, you can see it. yes, yes, yes. this is a russian translation. when books were still printed in russia. agent and that's it, that's all it means . enemy of the people is the year 2000 and only the current one the kremlin client was in power for a few weeks, that is, such books were still published there in russian, the cover is written in 1965, written by an american journalist , the head of the pool of correspondents in the international organization of the united nations, that's what
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it says there in these 40 years, not much has changed, so a few months ago, a ukrainian diplomat who once worked for me was also among the signatories of this letter. carefully read this book carefully read this book because what is being done in this un system personnel issues, including around the secretary general, the structure requires a response not just from governments because states are states they make decisions because governments but in the un system the organizations themselves are more than the secretary and the head of which is mr. gotish. there is a lot of work that belongs
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to the ambassador plenipotentiary. on the kgb of the ussr yes, i know this by ear, so i know that it is absolutely true, what mr. igor said is absolutely true here, no, not very interesting to read this book. and we will continue our conversation, we will find out what the mood is in crimea, some creatures are surprised by the toilet in the house. and we from ukraine can insure cars , even if you are in the toilet
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. with our happiness we are also independent to declare ukraine an independent democratic state on august 24, 1991 ukrainians understand more than ever what independence really is those who were deprived of freedom well understand what a great value it is we will win and make such a state where ukrainians will not die because independence is a state that protects each of its citizens oh, and here we are in good health once again
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now now watch what we have now advertised and see also anzhelika sezonenko and mykola veresni you can see right now don't forget that at 4:40 p.m. we traditionally have an interactive event on sundays , when in september, he professionally answers all your questions, because mykola veresen is an expert in all matters. well, in almost all of them, i need you to pass as a member of the verkhovna rada. because we have embroidery experts from ballet to football to politicians to the economy and so on can call themselves experts of the pre-election campaign of some i against will finish and then we will talk about the elections so write your questions on our whole page on facebook espresso.tv or in our live chat ethere on youtube, espreso.tv, and now we have the opportunity to talk about what is happening in crimea, oleksiy
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tinenko, the head of the board of the crimean public organization, with us, oleksiy, greetings, good health , mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, congratulations. being in the crimea and not having any connections there, no correspondents, let's say that there is some kind of sine wave, at first a lot of people go from the crimea, really places have been crowded in recent days, they say that mine is already free, you can leave very easily, then they say that aksyonov went somewhere there in this in russia, then they say that he did not go. and then the third says that he went but returned or was he returned, so what is the mood in crimea, no, i would even focus my question on the on people who are not sympathetic to ukrainians and ukrainian
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affairs. this is how people feel about themselves who, even in the 14th, now want to be with russia. is there some kind of opening of eyes or something? have they become more understanding or have your life become worse or do they say we never we will not leave our land and we will fight with ukrainians until the end of their lives or vice versa say let's flee to russia when it starts, what's the mood there? well, i think you uh-uh very aptly noticed that it is a-uh-uh wave-like happening and we all watched these uh-uh different videos very well yes, different women who say how good it was there and don't want to go, but they go, and it's actually good, well, accordingly, the events that are happening now and the russians who came to the territory of crimea, eh, are currently beginning to understand
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that not everything happened like that, it happens as they like they said from tvs and the press of various uh, respectively, the security that they were promised, it is not that it is mythical, it does not exist at all, and those explosions that took place there, yes, in august, uh of the airfield in novofedorivka really caused such quite active, you could even say, panicky moods and people left and at the moment these traffic jams also continue, that is, at the moment there are also traffic jams between sevastopol and yalta, for example, very many people now is leaving crimea because of that. well, look at one more question, oleksiy. and this is actually what we see when we see
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the reaction of the crimean leaders. so they don't need to panic. it's okay, we have air defense, and the crimeans understand that this is the work of ukrainian hands. i understand that it's how much the axionov didn't speak there, and the ukrainian army with him, one way or another, bombards the bases of the russian troops in the crimea, so, well, according to that, the crimeans really understand that this is the handiwork of ukraine. there is no official official communication on this matter from our side, there are semi-joking messages about the fact that there is less cotton to be smoked and all that, but of course i want to emphasize very strongly that a huge
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number of our citizens who live in the territory of the crimea, they have been waiting for 8 years for this status of the quorum to crimea to change. so, right now, these explosions that took place in the territory of the crimea show that this status is finally changing and ukraine is taking some steps to move from the words e-e to some e-e more important matters in order to return these territories and their citizens. if this is a very acute and even stupid question, but i am such an expert in the field of stupid issues, so please forgive me if you imagine that the ukrainian army is advancing into the crimea , for example, the battles for armyansk begin, and well, that is on the border itself, but already on the territory of the crimea , formally under the administrative and russian officials
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, the crimean officials, let's say so, they say the motherland is in danger, and the comrades will fight with a cart, 150 million will be created immediately battalions of russian-sponsored people in crimea, who will all run immediately to help the russian army fight against the ukrainian army, you know well, forecasting is always a very bad thing ah but i believe that it will absolutely not happen because, accordingly, we are currently recording a fairly large number of appeals , for example, from our citizens who remained on the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula regarding how to leave the territory of crimea and leave either to the territory of ukraine or to the territory of other countries
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in order for these young people to men were not mobilized in the event of a full-scale such mobilization in crimea and other occupied territories according to the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation, that is, people are trying to go so that this does not happen as much as possible, which concerns those, well, that part of the population or that sympathizes with russia well, here it should be noted that some of them are, respectively. well, let's be honest, er, very er, hmm, people are prone to the influence of propaganda on them, er, so i think that there is some kind of objective decisions a-a we are talking about not maybe uh, it should also be noted in the context of this question of yours, what is not in your opinion , and this is what we are currently observing, respectively, about the fact that russia uh. accordingly, it is very likely that it will collect
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its own and place them in military facilities near some uh- e civilian facilities and directly in the places of mass residence of e-e our citizens in crimea, the relevant facts are currently also recorded by us, so this also applies to some military facilities there, for example, warehouses with ammunition when they move them somewhere from there territories there, for example, military units that are far enough from the common population to the place that are close enough to make it so that our military in this regard were um, well, their hands were tied so that, accordingly vagonna continued to be an interesting question. recently, the permanent representative of the president in the autonomous republic of crimea, mila taashova, stated that since
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february 24, more massive protests against the russian occupiers began on the peninsula than before. before a full-scale invasion. can you confirm this? she says that about 60 cases have been recorded there and even a new article has appeared regarding the discrediting of the russian troops on the peninsula, so i absolutely confirm that a new article has indeed appeared and it is really followed by new people even those who come out with simple posters there hmm hmm for peace so administrative protocols are drawn up against these people and the current legislation of the russian federation which it spreads on the territory of the crimean peninsula it is provided even for repeated yes, yes, such alleged violations, er, harsher punishments are provided for other categories as well, then really, this does not
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only apply to administrative fines in the protocols and everything else live in the territory of crimea due to the persecution of them by the russian federation , such a new trend appears. well, it is renewed , of course, in relation to the so-called ukrainian trail, but accordingly, the prisoners suffer the most because of this the crimean tatars are currently there, for example. well, if we talk about those cases concerning people who are accused of being involved in the islamic organization kisbut birds, there are currently 95 of them, of which six have been detained just recently , accordingly, new ones are appearing there is an accusation yes, for example, in participation in the crimean tatar
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battalion named after naman chili bizhikhan a-a and currently in bi- both of these organizations and hi from buta hrir and battalions i don’t have chilibchikhan was recognized in russia as terrorist organizations ago accordingly, well, we predict that this repression will really intensify and, accordingly , these articles will be used the most for that part of our population that lives in the crimea, which is the crimean tatars, mr. oleksiy, the last question can you answer very briefly it is possible even yes or no, you slandered, more precisely, you even said that people are contacting how you can escape from crimea and in order not to fall under the russian mobilization, the question is can you escape from crimea now so as not to be caught, what do you tell these people is there are some direct bypasses, maybe even through the
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russian federation, how is it possible to use the vasylivka checkpoint for example, ah, well, in fact, at the moment, there are only two ways to leave the territory, well, this applies not only to crimea, it applies to the occupied territories, let's say the new occupied territories and the territory of the kherson region and zaporizhzhia oblast yes, vasylka, but at the moment, as far as we know, people stay there for a week or so, while we are there, the number of deaths increases, and the other option is to leave uh, through the kerch bridge, you know, to go to the territory of russia, to go to third countries , respectively, someone succeeds, someone does not succeed, of course, there are quite a large number of problematic issues, according to the fact that young people often turn to such appeals as i mentioned earlier guys who, due to their
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young age, respectively, did not have the opportunity to issue, for example, passports of ukraine, that is, they have osi occupation passports, birth certificates and all uh, at the moment, uh, there are opportunities to leave, i can’t to say that they are one hundred percent, but you have to try , because you know, it’s better to try than to find yourself fighting against your country with a machine gun. well , thank you, oleksiy kinenko, chairman of the board of the non-governmental organization crimea sos, and we are now to the speaker valery rybyy, director of information and consulting development to the defense express company, which we always turn to. when we need to find out something about military affairs, especially in the first place. good health, valeriu. thank you for stopping by on sunday, it's time for us to watch again
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after all, such a question is for emotion and not for reason. when i opened today, well, the reports are different, well, this picture of today, i got the impression that if you use the russian word, the russian army and the russian generals are fussing , why do i have this impression? in belarus somewhere there, the americans or british intelligence say that they no longer have the strength to advance and these are literally the last days or maybe weeks of the offensive there by ronnie bakhmut avdiyivka and so on that there is also exhaustion they want to transfer troops supposedly from the east to the crimean direction in order to hold crimea while waiting for
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a counter-offensive of ukrainian troops, that is, they are not the leaders, they are not the ones who are waging the war. this is the impression that the ukrainians are leading it and are demanding that they create the conditions for the russians to be the second, they are already responding to the ukrainian effort and not the ukrainians are responding to the efforts of the russians, how wrong i am, well, this uh-uh very uh-uh characterizes the situation we have now, they very and aptly characterized it because we have been observing this fracture for about two years weeks, and it is primarily connected with the destruction of the air defense system in the south, which the enemy has so carefully built and,
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hmm , putting some there the fact that the ukrainian armed forces received from its partners one of the modern weapons systems, such as anti-radiation radar missiles, allowed it to significantly affect the enemy's anti-terrorist defense system and knock it out, which made it possible according to all information, strike deeper than the depth that we had before with the use of himars complexes, well, with the use of those missiles that were most provided to us by gmails, which provide control of the operational zone at a distance of up to 80 -85 km and it is safe to hit the
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enemy's targets under these conditions, the enemy was forced to move units, including from the direction of the main attack, which until now, how can it be considered with the picture that we see on the battlefield , remains the donetsk direction, but the enemy it was necessary to concentrate in the south, where under threat, a large formation of up to two dozen e-e bayonets was halted, e-e on the right bank of the dnipro river, therefore, large forces were transferred there, but after a series of strikes on the crimea, that thirst was not e-e the russian federation e-e found and in the air defense system of crimea and in the defense and protection of objects located on the temporarily occupied peninsula
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. therefore, the enemy now needs to think hard and add some valid ones to secure these objects. and for this, you need to find somewhere additional forces and means and they are likely to be removed or redirected from other areas of the front, so in principle we see that now it is an active action or a series of active actions that the armed forces of ukraine have implemented or recognizing the fact that this was carried out by the sword there let's say without particularly focusing on this, but in principle here, the behavior of the aggressor is reactive in response to the active actions of the armed forces of ukraine, well, in addition , it should be said that such a situation is not typical
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for well, let's say for what we saw in the last months and this radically changes and approaches the conduct of information confrontation in the information sphere, and that is precisely why the opponent feels like some kind of naked king in the information sphere, because there are essentially no preparations in those conditions when it is necessary to explain to one's own audience which has been pumped up for a long period, let's say with one vector that now we will do something like that and when something incomprehensible happens , the armed forces of ukraine take an active position against them now there is no adequate response and understanding of how to further behave with one's own audience, what can uh-uh well, let's put it this way in the final uh-uh result, influence the further course not only
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on the fronts and inside the uh-huh country itself where the lying content was formed. that's such a uh-huh parallel reality in what kind of situation did the inhabitants of this country find themselves in, and to paint a different picture at the moment also somehow means the defeat of the regime, and right now, we see that a turning point has come, according to which the future and those what changes not only on the fronts of e-e in confrontation military and not on the fronts of political, ideological and economic and other types of confrontation, thank you. i have one more question. yes, i did not comment on what you said
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. i still cannot find a rational answer to the question why is putin silent after the attack of the ukrainian army on crimea, after the bombing, we still take well , anything, because he is silent in favor of ukraine in confirmation of your words that they now need to rebuild some new version, find a different version, not such a version, we will now defeat the khokhli in 3 seconds, and the version that well, we still have a lot of strength, but we, well, i already fired the commander of the black sea fleet, and he is to blame because the rockets got there. and we have a new commander, everything will be fine, but he is silent, the supreme commander during the war, he should be silent. well, he has at least something
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