tv [untitled] August 21, 2022 5:30pm-5:59pm EEST
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for ukrainians, yes, polls do not record this yet, so far this has not been recorded for me, uh, you know, uh, it's even a little strange, because we know that human nature is such that well , this fatigue must appear at a certain moment. and we we don't see this yet. i would say that this is hmm, such a peculiar phenomenon is possible. you know, what is happening here is according to the law of newton's third law, so the wire is already working against the reaction, and the ukrainians have understood that this is how it must be destroyed and that there is no way to negotiate with this empire. and maybe what she said here the late bekeshkina, our director, is a legendary sociologist, she is the director of democratic initiative funds. she had one, and it will be easier for you because
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you help your friend, so maybe it is included here, and she said that it contradicts the laws of physics, but she is a psychological person understands that i help others, i pull on myself even more so and this adds to it additional additional strength, maybe it works now let's talk with the head of the mechlis to get the tatar people refat chubarov mr. refat good day let's try to talk about these recent events in crimea, how do you think they generally change the course of the war and the mood in the car itself, we can talk about the mood of the crimea, you know that the crimean society is so diverse, you are all separate , despite the ukrainian laws and everything else. so those who remain loyal to the ukrainian state,
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for them these are the last events, and especially the explosions at the military airfield on the ninth of august, novopedavtsi, and then the destruction of a powerful ammunition depot near janka on august 16. well, it was like that you know, but uh, um, messenger, uh, very powerful support for their expectations, hope and people, well, i 'm talking almost, that's what they say to me, they say finally from rhetoric have moved on to practical actions now we are sure that there will be no turning back and crimea will definitely return to ukraine, this is one part, the other part is those who tried to reassure themselves somewhere, they were deceiving themselves , er, based on the fact that putin has already said that apart from
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this, it is already forever er- became a part of russia even now here you can plan your life, they went to the crimea, there was a crazy pace of construction , eight years for the sale of high-rise buildings, and at the same time tens of thousands of apartments built by the russian state for the employees of penal structures of military personnel these people. now i think that i didn't just think about it, they now saw that all of them are alive, and it's the only reassurance . the question is, because now it is necessary that in one case
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there is an upswing, where you know, people have such a spirit, it is necessary that it does not fall, and where there are fears, there are already processes that say that a little bit and the colonists will be drawn to their homes, it is necessary that they so, if you ask me what to do now, i want to say that well, i don’t want to say that, as a citizen, as a non-military person, let the military be more competent. but i think that the crimean people will react very well to the release please and zaporozhye regions, that is, those lands adjacent to crimea. well, in 2014, we talked about the fact that, in principle, the very process of the occupation of crimea , when the connection of the peninsula with the mainland was artificially interrupted, that it cannot be compensated
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by any crimean bridge, because the connection the connection with the mainland during the 100th anniversary was not only there for ten years as a part of the ukrainian state, it was the possibility of the existence and development of crimea, well, putin drew completely different conclusions from this than those who spoke about this reason believed of the inconsequential center, the cause-and-effect relationship , he simply occupied kherson oblast for the sake of crimea, by and large, but before that, he did what we all, and i remember, and your articles are special. in front of their eyes, they turned crimea into such a strong, strong, strong army, a bridgehead, and the bridge they built is that one of the most important elements of the chain of military communications is an element, and they used
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one on february 24 from the most powerful blows on the mainland part of ukraine, it took place from crimea, which was occupied in 2014. and now it seems to me that well, we knew about it that it could be, unfortunately, it happened like that, and that is, but our closest neighbors also have to learn lessons, and besides, such a bridgehead has become not only well with the help of which putin planned the further seizure of ukraine and he started it on february 24. but there is another punctuation of the task . turkey so uh except me this
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you touched on this a little to your previous guest, the esteemed mr. professor hrynia, and he said that every morning or every time he sees fresh polls, he is afraid that the mood of the people will not change . i think that the mood of our people, well, i already think that after what happened, these terrible crimes and tragedies that took place throughout the territory of ukraine, especially in our destroyed cities , they will not change, because the ukrainian nation has already realized that if we leave almost even a scrap in the hands of the russians, they will piece of our land in 5-10 years again completely in order to try to destroy ukraine , now they should think about the liberation of crimea and all our partners and especially nato members if they want to think about a global concept of such security in the waters of
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the black sea of the mediterranean sea, this is now becoming a very relevant topic and problem. tell me, you were talking about lessons for ukraine's neighbors. how do you understand the position of turkey, which on the one hand so actively supports ukraine, and on the other hand maintains serious relations with moscow, i think that researchers of turkey are here because they would talk in detail about the most important factors that determine such a policy of turkey today. i am not such a detailed researcher of turkey, but here i will simply name some factors that influence these challenges and risks for turkey, what is it forced to solve in interaction with russia, this is primarily syria, and it is the issue
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of interaction with iran, and especially early relations with russia. so, at all points, turkey is forced to discuss with moscow, but it is a separate conversation that on the territories that were liberated by azerbaijan, that is, on nagorno-karabakh, it is separate and already there i think that turkey has fulfilled its mission and azerbaijan is very the second issue was clearly used with this - this is an economic issue, which is largely related to turkey's energy dependence on russia. well, here we can talk a lot about uh, well, turkey is trying to reduce uh, gas supply and the use of russian gas and gas supply from russia, but not like that. everything is easy to prove the question of the unfinished construction of this
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huge nuclear power plant is arquyu and these are the questions. well, they are forcing turkey to carry out such a policy, especially in relations with russia. but it seems to me that we sometimes it's not necessary here, i just see it sometimes. in discussions, it happens that some fall into dinner and forget how important turkey's positions are for us, and in other spheres, the first is a political empire - this is a categorical non-recognition of e attempts to annex crimea and and turkey's consistent support for the territorial integrity of the ukrainian state, and from this position no one can move it, firstly, secondly, this is its support at the international level, excluding
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economic sanctions, this is its special relations with the countries of the european union. of the union and the third - this is military cooperation, cooperation, it was possible to mention here about the straits , about the fact that turkey very clearly fulfills the requirements of international law, which are established for the straits, it will now not allow more not allows the increase of russian warships in the black sea, tell me. when we talk about crimea as a military bridgehead, it becomes clearer why the crimean tatars are one of the few peoples of the soviet union expelled during stalin's time and never got the opportunity to return home. tatars, germans , povols, and turks. we from khatin, all other peoples, in principle, returned to their places of permanent residence almost immediately after the death of
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stalinism for a few years, but the crimean tatars did not they were allowed to crimea from the point of view of voicing one of the reasons. i think you are absolutely right, and it is us. and i think so, too. do you remember, uh, vitaly, you must remember that in soviet times , uh, it was like in the soviet military doctrine, there was such a term about crimea that it was an unreachable aircraft carrier, and this term was used except for crimea, it was used openly. i will simply explain that crimea at the time of the collapse of the ussr ot 1911 1991 excuse me 1991 er there were 11
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11 airfields on which there was a patch of land, it is clear that for the soviet union it was one of the outposts from where it should have dictated its will to the world and and and and until a certain time in the crimea e-e were located e-e charges as atomic well nuclear yes and yes, and after they were removed from there, the conditions for their storage and use, they were kept in the necessary condition and now russia has restored all this. i would like to say this . well, in fact, we can draw a simple conclusion that this occupation is sacredness this preparation before that, we do not get the aircraft carrier to new actions , it remains that where does russia intervene to protect
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the rights of people in general, even if it is the rights of ethnic russians, this is such nonsense, such a thing has never happened and is not happening, and if russia seizes other people's lands, then only in order to use them for the realization their imperial interests and nothing else, the people there have nothing to do with it. no, we can use it for a certain time, as it happened. crimea ran with this aquafresh, by the way, today they are just celebrating the day of the aquaprize of their national flag. thank you, mr. rifat. i would like to remind you that with us was the head of the jilis of the crimean-qatar people, refat chubarov. in that program, you talked about how the mood of the population changes in the occupied separate connection with the latest events that
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we all observed in the last few days, we can say this whole week and this is a very important conversation from this point of view that you and i are actually aware of how people's moods have changed not only in crimea but in in principle, in all those countries that are dependent on this violation of international law related to the occupation of crimea and that the russians are beginning to be convinced that the idea of occupying crimea is a delusion , and ukrainians see that crimea can really be returned, may at least not pose a military threat to ukraine, let's talk about it with the coordinates of the information resistance group kostyantyn greetings mr. kostyantyn good afternoon well, let 's try to see if the situation with the war has really changed like that. i would say not at the front, but with war in connection with the fact that it turned out that the ukrainians can reach quite large distances from the point
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of view of neutralizing the enemy's arsenals, so really in the sense that it is more rather, from somewhere in the sphere of social psychology, the impact of these events on the crimean peninsula is quite noticeable, as in principle you assess, here is how the military actions are developing, you can talk about a stalemate, as many western experts say. well until now yes, that is, let's say so, russia can no longer advance on an operational scale . cannot at
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such a level m-m er-e attack because the original um let's say to reverse the situation in this way, that is, yes, it's with let's say so from a formal point of view, at the moment it corresponds to reality. that is, it is pjsc pjsc, that is, uh, both sides cannot go to active actions that contributed to the achievement of this or that side , e-e, this is the whole in this war, how can the situation on the fronts develop if we are talking about pat. there are several factors, well , let's say, a trend that affects the state and capabilities
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of the opposing sides. it is they who are, let's say so in this sense, the decisive factor in relation to the russian federation, it is the opportunity, let's say temporary, the opportunity to recover and opportunities to replenish their resources, some reserve things that will give the opportunity to to move to the active phase again. that is, these are the main factors that, let's say, influence the trends that should be evaluated, the meaning of what to predict, the further development of events at the front. what do you think, in principle, what part of the russian military leadership is aware of that what he has
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no strategic opportunities to win this war, all is well, they are carrying out putin’s instructions to weaken the ukrainian state, and in principle this suits them. you understand, well, the strategy is usually determined by the goals of the war. if putin is still hesitating in the list of these words of war, then of course it is everything affects the practice, that is, the implementation of the strategy and tactics used by his subordinates. first, he says that two-thirds of ukraine must be captured, denationalization is fixed, well, this is bullshit . demilitarization, etc., changing the government in kyiv is one strategy. then he says, "let 's ensure the exit to the borders of the donetsk luhansk region, that is, here the dnr of the lnr is our own, so we will help, this is a completely different strategy, now he
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defines how to preserve what he bought at this moment. that is, this is already the third strategy, of course. all this affects the methods and forms of realization of these goals, because if they are not defined, then it is difficult for the military to decide on an effective strategy. ended in failure, and everything else had to be invented on the go. yes, it is. well, a lot of things are improvisation in the course of the case. yes, you are quite right, well, in my opinion , for example, it is er, these changes in the course of the case affect the quality. on the part of the russian military command, well, agree, it is difficult to understand that, for example , an offensive in the area of avdiyivka would be pisky there
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. format in such a methodology and tell me that in principle and what to say about the political situation , do you think that the russian goals of the war can still change or that such a strategic idea of exhausting ukraine will remain unchanged well, in many ways it is determined by the internal russian situation in, say, in entourage of putin's closest e-e p. this is the first factor and then objective factors that e-e will influence the actual state of the state of the russian federation. well, one way or another, we can say about several factors, these are sanctions. how
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one way or another, over time, they are gaining momentum, this increase in the combat capabilities of the armed forces of ukraine affects the increase of the combat capabilities of the armed forces of ukraine, which, in the end, one way or another, the saint because uh, they will move to active counter-offensive actions in relation to the occupiers. well, there is a whole uh, a whole series of factors which mr. putin can influence only through space, what do you think about all the fears that are expressed at the unofficial e-e level regarding august 24, does putin really need a date to intensify his e actions, shall we say missile or some more offensive actions, well, let's say, i don't quite share the opinion that putin has some kind of sacred relationship, because he is very sensitive to some important dates, eh, which one is doubtful
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, august 24, hmm, so it is quite possible that in terms of informational and psychological pressure or moral-psychological pressure rather on ukraine, first of all, in such a public sphere , it is quite possible that he can make a decision about some such mass application or some kind of provocation in relation to the population to the people of ukraine but in principle, you see that even now the provocation is enough, the main provocation of the zaporizhzhia npp. i think that this is enough to scare the whole world. the accident is a violation of the fifth stage of nato, it's just a phrase. is it real from a legal point of view, can it be considered so, but i want to understand from a
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formal point of view, it is quite true, see , there is no doubt that if it happens uh, some kind of explosion, because there is a leak of radiation, and uh, this radiation, well, thanks to it, uh, due to the geoclimatic features of our region, it will get, for example, to the territory of ukraine, which is part of nato, and the root cause will be determined. from a formal point of view, it should be considered as an attack and hostile actions against a nato country, and then the inclusion of the so-called point of the fifth point is quite possible, but i think that all these statements have a more prejudicial nature to reduce this idea to an aesthetic level,
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which the military-political leadership of the russian federation is trying to implement in zaporizhzhia and donetsk kherson region. they are trying , as far as i understand, to implement, let's say, the provisions of a strategic informational and psychological special operation in relation to the gas station can influence the supply of military equipment to ukraine because this is one of the decisive factors, one of the very important strategic issues in this war, with the help of this kind of information about the gas station to actually influence ukraine in order to force them to be more curt about the negotiations , possible hypotheticals in this sense, do you think that you have such actions, they by themselves can lead to an accident. you don't even need to
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plan anything. do you understand that there are certain systems for the protection of the so -called fool protection at nuclear facilities, but of course that the russians know how to bypass it and know how to achieve the result, what should be done so that this system does not worked hmm well, the big question is, will they dare to do it or not, i'm very sad because they will go to the end and dare, and it's more let's put it this way, it has some kind of propagandistic, informational and psychological sense than eh- it's a matter of achieving some kind of
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fatal result. is happening uh around various uh russian markers of blackmail because we see that vladimir putin does not calm down, you can say not even a day, and all the time creates new and new conditions in order to blackmail ukrainians to do something that will force him to think first of all about ukraine think not about resistance, about capitulation, at least reduce the number of people in the territory of the country, force a large number of people to move to the west, to the territory of the western and central regions of ukraine from the east, on which putin, as you know, dreams all the time of creating his own maloronovorossi well, and then i am very important point, er, this is the intimidation of the western allies in russia because putin perfectly understands that if ukraine will receive high-precision weapons, of course, in this situation, it is unlikely that it will be possible to
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stop it, it is unlikely that the russian troops will be able to restore such a a frenzied offensive on ukrainian territory to capture the occupation, further annexation of new ukrainian regions, and in this situation, of course, the russian president is trying to show. you see. if you continue to supply them with weapons, it will be like him he says yes, prolonging the agony of the kyiv regime, no , he is not interested in this, it will lead to what i will think how to blackmail you more and more, not with a nuclear strike, but with a nuclear power plant, not with a nuclear power plant, yes, gas, by blackmailing the influencers of a sufficient way , everyone is trying to activate and every day, as we see, it appears in the news. and now i will give the floor to the news release of iryna koval, who will introduce you to the current events of this day and , please, about the situation in different regions
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of our country and also about the fact that updated alarm signals have appeared, every citizen of ukraine must know about them, because they say that the nuclear threat in ukraine is increasing, so you need to be aware . iryna koval russians once again shelled the dnipropetrovsk region kryvorizky district was targeted by the enemy
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