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in fact, all the leaders of the communist parties of the communist party of czechoslovakia at that time, who were invited in quotation marks and summoned to the russian table in the soviet capital of moscow, signed this declaration, only one did not sign francis krygel or the bureau of the central committee of the party. by the way, our compatriot is from ivano-frankivsk, he was born in ivano-frankivsk. then austro-hungary, how do you understand the empire, he then moved to the territory that later became czechoslovakia, he stayed to live there, and already in the morning, he did not sign this statement; moreover, there was an attempt by him to arrest and only then the leaders of the communist party of czechoslovakia proved to be courageous people, they said that they would not go
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home if france, that krigl was not released, and he was released with other members of the delegation to czechoslovakia . to compare this position of france , chikarigel, with the position of what jan did, the famous czech hero burned himself as a sign of protest against the occupation, but such cases after all, there were not so many and, most importantly, there were no cases of resistance in soviet society itself. here is this component about seven participants of the protest action who were then arrested after
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they went to red square to protest against the occupation of czechoslovakia, the prison sentences for them were different, many were forced to leave from the soviet union to stop their human rights activities, and yet the majority of soviet people turned out to be absolutely inert in relation to these events and certainly did not consider themselves co-responsible for these events, and this was a huge the problem is of course in the relationship between the russian intelligentsia and, let's say, the czechoslovak people, because the czechs for many years simply hated all this russian and soviet, as now ukrainians are
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turning away from russian culture from everything that is related to the situation with the russian occupation , so the names of figures are disappearing from our names of our streets of russian culture and science, not those who are directly involved in the war in ukraine, but those whose political activities are related to moscow are related to russia, and many say so but why do we have to give up people's surnames? they are in no way connected with this attack, they lived in a different historical time, and as we read some biographies, various biographies of figures of
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russian culture and science, we will see that among them there were not so many who protested against some occupation actions of moscow, there were people who supported the actions of their state to suppress the polish uprisings and wrote such, i would say inspiration, poems and texts related to his some such view of this or that writer, poet on the suppression of the polish uprising, and among these writers was alexander pushkin, who on the one hand wrote freedom-loving poems, and on the other, of course, created texts that did not always remain in the
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political history of russia . among them were famous writers and poets of the suppression of the prague spring, of course then the situation was already different, many representatives of the russian and ukrainian creative intelligentsia opposed it, but as a rule it was not a public protest publicly, this protest on red square against the introduction of soviet troops into czechoslovakia a few days
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after this introduction took place on august 25 of this year remained such a big protest. of course, the majority of soviet people did not learn about this protest, they learned only from some programs of western radio stations, which are not at all everyone listened and of course not everyone trusted them. i think about this that the difference between our life today and the same is that it was very limited very limited this moment is connected with what information could a soviet person in 1968
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learn about what was really happening in his own country when all these news were false , the most fragile of newspapers was called the truth, the russian poet yevgeny yevtushenko then wrote tanks follow the truth, which is not a newspaper referring to the soviet occupation, the overwhelming majority of czechoslovaks soviet people trusted this information, the west could tell about what is happening primarily in the west itself, but the opportunity to understand what is happening in the soviet unions were incredibly limited because the activities of western correspondent points were limited, because people did not have direct television telephone calls with western countries, and therefore all telephone conversations with western countries were carefully monitored and recorded by the state security committee of the soviet union, and also because people had
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to order these telephone conversations direct calls were possible only if you were traveling abroad of the soviet union and released, to put it mildly, less from the populated verified minority of the population and especially the countries of the civilized world had to go through dozens of commissions to confirm their credibility because the biggest slap in the face for the soviet regime, which kept its citizens in the country, was that people did not go anywhere for uh almost allowed so that they did not stay in the crystallized countries that they could not give true testimony about how people actually live in this man-hating state and that's why this is the news about these people who went to red square on august 25, it could only come out on the airwaves of the freedom of the voice radio america's bbc, and there they were still jamming, there were special means of jamming the information that came from the
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shortwave radio broadcast, and uh, still, the situation was absolutely amazing from the point of view of how people reacted to all these events, which turned out to be a lot of informed people, and here is another important point right now, right now, the russians , as you understand, have much more access to information than the soviets in 1968, the internet provides incredible opportunities to search for information, incredible opportunities, this is absolutely as it should be in any developed
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of the country and even when the so-called one is needed, dzor blocks some internet sites, he cannot block everything, there is a vpn, but the russians are the majority of the russians, the majority of the russians do not need this true information, they are completely indifferent, the question is not even whether they know or not , the question is because they don't want her to know anything , the question isn't even whether they like vladimir putin's politics or not, they think it's none of their business, that the authorities better know that if the authorities have decided that it is necessary to destroy some there is a country nearby to destroy its population. so that is why it is fighting only so that the russians do not touch us. you can say that they did not become citizens. of course , there is a huge number of people who are vinnist- minded and who sincerely applaud vladimir putin, believing that it is necessary to cleanse the ukrainian land of
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ukrainians and to populate it with russians as it is happening in crimea. of course, in this situation that has developed, they can be real supporters of the regime. there are people, and there are many of them, they can be afraid, but there are those who consider themselves opponents who understand that he started a cruel and unjust war, that the russian federation is all in the mud from this war, that the russian people are responsible for the crimes of their adventurous regime , and this is also an absolutely obvious thing that needs to be said, but to the vast majority of citizens of the russian federation, what difference does it make to us missiles they don't fall on us, no one touches our salary, they pay us with this salary, you can buy something , but let them do whatever they think is
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necessary, we are small people, i have to say this clearly ideology what a difference it is always the path to the abyss to the pitfall to death to collapse to decline and i really hope that we will have ukrainian land after the end of this war. ideology what a difference will never fail that we will get as a result eh the situation connected with eh that we will have responsible citizens and this is an important point so here of course you need to be aware of all the importance of what we now have to go through from the point of view of
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historical experience. once upon a time we also witnessed what happened to the czechs and slovaks, the vast majority of the inhabitants of the ukrainian ssr. i think i could not understand the scale of this tragedy. we realize that this is one of the most important such moments to realize someone else's tragedy it creates a certain moment is connected with the fact that you know what to expect historically how should
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you prepare for those trials that can meet because you yourself are in a state of real struggle with evil, that you live with a state that is evil in itself, and this is exactly the state that was in the soviet union during the half-century, unfortunately , there was no such understanding here, and i am not even going to reproach the people who lived in the soviet union union because they went through waves of repressions of stalinist repressions of repressions connected with the soviets with the union as a machine of constant watering and destruction of the holodomor. then, after the short-lived
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khrushchev thaw, the beginning of brezhnevism for unscrewing the nuts wherever they could already spin it or spin it some more, and of course most people believed that survival is the only thing a person can do in such a situation. well, unfortunately, these survival values ​​remained with us until the beginning of the war between russia and ukraine. the famous ukrainian economist oleksandr paskhan once said that what is ukrainian society remains a society of survival values, and that is why many ukrainian electoral decisions are dictated by the fact that people want not to build, not to answer, but to survive and even where opportunities are created in order to to build in order to create a strong state
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in order to be responsible citizens, the value of use still remains in the foreground. and this leads to something, yes, to corruption , to indifference. and this is what vladimir putin is doing with his war. he wants to make the ukrainian state again, which will be to survive in such simple conditions is a huge problem for everyone who is aware of the problems that arise in our reality in our country by and large i think that we will be able to answer putin differently will we be able to become no more no longer a society
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that will be a society of survival in our country, this is a really real problem, a problem that is connected with the establishment of our state in the future, in the future, which in one way or another will be connected with the restoration of the state after the war, because this restoration is otherwise, it will depend on what values ​​we will be able to adhere to, to what extent we are able to really build a civilized state
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, and i really hope that the citizens of the czech republic and slovakia will take these lessons into account the lessons that were in august 1968, one way or another, czechoslovak political culture after 1968 turned into a competition between those who believed that it was necessary to be very careful in front of moscow and those who believed that it was necessary to get rid of moscow at any cost, but look at how czechoslovakia is today reacts to the war in ukraine the president of today's territory where czechoslovakia is located czech republic slovakia of the president of russia vladimir putin in europe
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constantly spoke about the need to understand vladimir putin that it is necessary to go to a meeting with the demands of the kremlin, he met with russian leaders even when other leaders of western countries were already trying to do everything possible not to hold such meetings, but when the war began, of course, the position of the czech president changed literally in one day he completely became a harsh critic of the russian president, he called vladimir putin god of war and why and because every czech has this instinct of the heather of august 1968 , everyone regardless of what his political views are and when even such a person with an effort to survive at the cost of russia as milos
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sees the land on the screen as the russian troops again alienate some foreign land from him, he also has that wakes up that they are once again acting with them as they acted with us and there is a national consensus. by the way, i really hope that this national consensus will one day exist in our country and it will be able, one way or another, to help us sympathize with the grief of other people when we we will see russian aggression against this or that country, do not be indifferent to it, because you understand, we can liberate our land, we can win the war, the russians will have to accept the fact that we will not be their victim, but they will find another victim. they are not attacking finland now or to poland, even when finland, which was in the same state as we are today in 1938 39, decided that it would
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join nato, it did not become any real moment for its future for the future relations of relations in finland with e-e radio as you can see, no one attacked the russian federation now. she said, "oh, if you expand your military infrastructure, and we will expand ours, too. and that's all. in the future, ukraine can also fight back against the russian onslaught. if we manage to fight off the russian invasion now, we can play the same role that finland is playing now. don't be afraid of the russians. " offensive, do not be afraid of a russian attack, but this does not mean that there will not be other countries, and we have to these other countries when the russian federation, i do not even say if i say when, because i am sure that it is
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it is inevitable that we are now entering a period of long wars in the post-soviet space, long, bloody , and cruel, that millions of people were from different countries , that thousands will die, that we should treat these people in the same way that finland or poland now treat us, and with understandable sympathy , look at poland soviet troops entered . twice in 1920, they tried to destroy this state and only a miracle stopped the communist russian invasion. these were russian troops, and in 1939, when poland was already leading era and the joint efforts of the two allies on the continent, adolf hitler and joseph stalin, and there is an understandable instinct for survival in the poles and in the films. they see that when
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russian troops advance on someone, it will mean a fairly simple thing that it will be necessary to fight such an influx, at least militarily help, at least to supply weapons, at least to accept a refugee, at least to do humanitarian aid, we have to prepare for exactly this, that we will have to help many people, that we will have to send weapons to many countries that in one way or another operate in in our region, they exist in our region and may become new victims of the russian invasion, this is an absolutely real thing, and in this situation it is also necessary to understand that you and i cannot be completely
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indifferent to their future if we drew the right conclusions from the aggressive actions of russia earlier and not thought that it might not apply to us, of course we could have prepared much better not even for this war in 2022, but for the war in 2014 , we did not vote for yanukovych, we would not have voted for kuchma, russia has shown what it is ready for when became the russian federation from the soviet union, transnistria, which was actually occupied by the russians in poland in the 1990s, at the very beginning of the division of the ussr, then the terrible chechen wars , the first and second, with the taking of hostages with torture and with carpet bombing of
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chechen cities, are terrible, two wars with in georgia, the war of 2008 was only a culmination, and the 90s was a war that ended with the expulsion of all ethnic georgians from abkhazia. a tragedy that needs to be remembered, and two rather simple questions arose. and why did the ukrainians think that it would not be possible to touch them, because my brotherly people, this illusion seems to me to have been destroyed even before the annexation of crimea, even before the attack on
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donbas, it should have been destroyed, but the head in many it remained and now lies under the ruins of mariupol now lies under the ruins of the destroyed residential quarters of kharkiv now it is necessary to clearly realize that the russian federation with which we are dealing is no different in terms of its aggressiveness of willingness to destroy others from that soviet union in which a large number of us still lived without feeling their responsibility for its crime. i mention czechoslovakia in 968 precisely because these people now felt this responsibility, citizens of the soviet union, complicit in the crimes of their state, just as citizens, the joy of the russian federation , the participants in their crimes if you want the citizens of russia to feel what ukrainians feel today, citizens, former citizens of the soviet union, who
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those who lived on ukrainian land should feel what you felt czech slovaks felt when the soviets were walking on ukrainian land like this and i think that the recovery of the social organism itself begins with this feeling. the search for ways to its future is very obvious to me and i believe that in this situation in which you and i find ourselves, we must clearly understand how important this process is, a process that will help us understand that the values ​​of survival, they somehow do not end at on our historical path with you, they still exist in
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society, they can still dominate and prevent us from building the country, so that it would be different, we have to look at all the events of the last decades , such retrospectives, to see ourselves both in the role of accomplices in the crime and in the role of its victims, and then this day august 21, 1968 will be filled with a different meaning for us, the meaning of understanding the tasks that the ukrainian state faces today in the opera of russian aggression and in its future construction, because the answers to the aggressor are where he is will really be defeated, i am a successful state in which aggression is only a page of history, and the czech republic , slovakia, have become such states, members of the
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european union, members of the north atlantic union, part of the defense system of the western world against criminal russia, that is why they can help us, that is why they can accept ukrainian refugees, that is why the vast majority of the czech republic is slovaks starting from presidents ending with ordinary citizens adequately evaluate this war, that is why president zeman called putin the madness of the president of slovakia - chapito spoke about the crimes of russian soldiers against ukrainian women, a special address was very moving, recorded in which she spoke about what such a crime is, the crime of rape, the crime of violence, and this means that survival values ​​will be put an end to in the czech republic and slovakia , and i hope that it will be put an end to here too.
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and now that this conversation is over, i want to remind you that we will have a news release in just a few seconds, in which you will learn about the current events of this day and the current events of this week, which is coming to an end one week of this war and i will also pass the word to my colleagues iryna koval please iryna thank you vitaliy yes in literally a moment i will tell you about all the events that are happening in ukraine in the world and in more detail about the situation on the front of the 19th in ukraine on time on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna koval greetings today is the 179th day of the war in ukraine, the occupiers tried to launch an offensive near the novaya dmytrivka brewery long

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