we remember this, we are waiting for people in moscow and st. petersburg to live somewhere like in some village in the murmansk region. maybe then they will come to the point of going to war with another country, instead of sitting and clapping their hands and rejoicing about it not a very good day thank you mr. serhiy serhiy fursy investment banker was with us now we are joined by andriy osadchuk people's deputy of ukraine and oleksiy goncharenko people's deputy of ukraine eh good day to you again about the deprivation of the parliamentary mandate of all the deputies of the ojsc such was introduced when when was it will be put into practice and then how to vote the laws of the majority without the support of the partner, i already irinize well, for sure, i will start because if it was my initiative, this is the content of such a draft

resolution and i think that this is exactly the right decision , it is of course so political and legal, but i found finally, the basis on which they can be deprived of their mandate is not because they saw them there in monaco, because unfortunately this is not a basis, but what they wrote after the already large-scale invasion , most of them wrote statements about leaving the faction the police force according to the constitution - this is a direct reason to deprive them of their mandate, besides, some of them fled even before that. obviously, they knew what it was called and fled the country, and since then they have not entered the country again. it has been six months already, and we can ask the question that they actually left to a permanent place of residence abroad, and this timko is a reason to be deprived of a deputy's mandate , such a draft of the decree was introduced, and he marked there as potential co-authors all people's deputies of

ukraine, except for the mps, of course, so i really hope that my other colleagues also support me and i think that we need to put an end to the russian measure in the ukrainian parliament, if not all of them, but certainly among them there are russian agents and simply traitors and we need to remove them from the verkhovna rada for reasons of security and justice of all the reasons, they should be removed from the ukrainian verkhovna rada. andriyu sheyu is supported by your faction in the event that there is a vote for such a law, well, look, i completely share oleksiy's position regarding the seat of the role of the police in ukrainian politics is a huge lesson for everyone, because it is necessary to remember why and where the cheerful boys and girls got involved in ukrainian politics, how they behaved in the last three years, they were directly the leaders of

russian policy, vladimir putin's policy in ukraine, and this it is absolutely terrible, and since the first days of the large-scale invasion, there has been talk about the need to remove the representatives of these parties from all representative bodies, because once again, from the point of view of the logic of representative democracy, the deputy the mandate of the verkhovna rada and the deputy of the mandate, i do not know the kyiv council or any other. he is the same as the representatives of the ukrainian people, of course these comrades cannot represent the interests of the ukrainian people in the representative authorities of ukraine. the only big issue is that we, unlike the russian federations are , after all, a country of the rule of law and we must fight according to the constitution for the rights of the people for the procedures, because if we deprive the mandates of some deputies in an unconstitutional way there is no guarantee that the next day other deputies

, i don't know deputy honcharenko or deputy osadchuk , will not be deprived of our political competitors according to a similar procedure, because we criticize the government , including because there is something to criticize, so there is no doubt about the need to remove these comrades from ukrainian politics on the other hand, you have to be very careful about complying with the legislation and the constitution. i would appeal more to law enforcement agencies. well, if someone committed an offense and a crime, law enforcement officers should work from the other side from the political side, i would worry about the fact that the splinters of the opz have actually turned into satellites of the coalition and we see what is happening in the verkhovna rada, they are now silently voting for any proposals of the bank and probably from a political point of view. there is a very bad story, but less so. i really expect that in the near future, and even more so in the next

parliamentary presidential elections, it is our joint task to leave ukraine forever from these comrades, and it is everyone who should work on this great task they should leave forever and never come back, will they continue to be in prison, will they rest somewhere, that is another question, but they should leave ukrainian politics, or only these four letters opzzh e-e just indicate who should leave ukrainian politics, or we too we must remember the statements of some people's elected representatives from other political forces before the war, which were anti- ukrainian, let's say yevgeny shevchenko, who said that putin is a great leader of our time, so that lukashenko is the best to go to the audience before that now he has put on a ukrainian uniform. by the way, your colleague yurchyshyn asked the ministry of defense why he was in

that form and quality, they did not give an answer, they said that it was secret information or mr. buzhanskyi who told about the ukrainian language, and now as we see the difference travels everywhere and tells how to love ukraine, what to do with such people, which change depending on how the political and social situation in the country changes. well, first of all, i would still like to tear off, you know, as they say in odesa along deribasovskaya, for gradually, let's do it something after all, let's do it for the psg, we'll start bringing them together for which there are no issues at all, and i would like to say here that any decision on them will definitely be political and legal, but once again i want to emphasize that i found legal grounds for exactly those resolutions in the constitution it is clearly stated that if you came from the party list and wrote a statement about leaving the faction of this party, this is grounds for deprivation of the mandate, let's use this if there is a need to make changes to the

law somewhere, who should be the initiator but we do not violate the constitution, they wrote statements, these statements were announced at the session of the verkhovna rada. this is the direct reason why we are playing with them, why are we waiting and trying to be perfectly accurate and perfectly correct, well, these are enemies and agents, so law enforcement agencies, let's let them put them in prison. that one was under house arrest, all the others go to the verkhovna rada, as mr. andriy rightly says, for everything they are ready to vote for anything now and everything is fine with them without criminal cases and so what we will drag and drag later and this term will end. these people continue to come to the verkhovna rada and go to committees. closed information. whom do they report it to? where

does the information go? some of them just live in monaco. all these people's deputies, but they are specific, there are surnames, so i would still like to prove, let's get together and bring the issue of psg to the end, i urge my colleagues to do so once again , you absolutely know to stay in white gloves it won't work because we just need to take and remove this crap from the verkhovna rada mr. andrii, i absolutely share the position of oleksii i already said that these people should not be in ukrainian politics at all this should have happened several years ago, but unfortunately it happened that they are still there because if we find, as oleksiy says, a political and legal solution, it must be done. i just want to remind you that according to similar logic and similar emotion, we conducted a lustration and it ended badly because time passed, people through the courts repeated and in fact this history choked. i

really want us to learn from the mistakes of the past and even when from a political emotional point of view there are things that are obvious, we must be as clear as possible regarding the requirements of the law, because all these guys, many of them are very skilled lawyers, the situation is changing, ukrainian, they work for themselves and i really would not like it to end in two or three years with them winning in the courts, that is, i fully support this rhetorical logic, but we must be absolutely as correct as possible from the point of view of the constitution and of the laws of ukraine. thank you, mr. andriy osadchuk, people's deputy and oleksiy goncharenko , people's deputy. they were in the background. you can see a quad bike there. that's what we're bringing to our defenders . half a million hryvnias and this is the support of the centers and

all those who helped, i want to thank everyone right away , now we will pass on the initiative, i would also appeal to all the owners of those companies that rent atvs in the carpathians instead of destroying the actually, the carpathian mountains and meadows, hand them over to the army and don’t engage in this barbarism anymore, don’t make money on it during the war. thank you , gentlemen. about mistakes and not mistakes, but achievements of the past, it's better to look to know history to know what to prepare for in the future. hello, my name is volodymyr vyatrovych, i'm a historian, and this is a project of 10 days of independence . was

i believe that understanding the turning points on this path is our key to a common future , so i invite you to experience these historical events with me and see them through the eyes of the participants. i will always remember november 21-22, 2004 . everything to protect the choice of ukrainians at the polling stations. it was voting day, the second round of the presidential elections of ukraine. i remember the attacks of bandits at the polling station, the stealing of ballots, the transportation of paid voters on buses, we did everything they could, but the government still declared

yanukovych president, everyone was very tired, but no one was going to sleep. everyone understood that a turning point in the history of the country had come, or the people would rise up and defend their choice, or democracy would come to an end, so instead of sleeping, we went around the kyiv dormitories to raise students to protests, the orange revolution became a big surprise for the western world, they barely learned to distinguish ukrainians from russians there, and suddenly there is a bloodless revolution here, ukrainians stand up for the protection of human rights and democracy, just as it was in the countries of eastern europe in the

late 1980s and early 1990s. the influence of the authorities and the society did not object to this, it was the result of a movement in the other direction from the democratic west. the orange revolution put an end to the question of who we are, what is the history . ukrainians already went to the maidan for mass protests in the center of the capital. is there a connection between these events to answer this question? we need to go back to 1990. on october 2, 1990, october revolution square was not very crowded. it was an ordinary weekday, tuesday, two patrolmen the policemen watched in a daze at the extraordinary event, about a hundred young people

who appeared, knowing where they came from, entered the center of the square in an organized column and began to pitch tents right in the middle of the city, friends. the time has come to choose or we will achieve an independent, democratic ukraine or we will remain a colony of the empire, spiritually poor for a nationalized people, this is how the text of the appeal of the participants of the student hunger strike, which went down in history as a revolution on the granite , the main demands of the students were the refusal to sign the new union treaty and the re-election of the verkhovna rada under new democratic rules . markiyan ivashyshyn of the lviv student fraternity was sure that they would be arrested on the first day, but the lviv residents managed to deceive the kgb, which followed the student movement, they spread rumors that the action would take place in the mariinsky park , and the policemen were waiting for them there, according to the memories of eyewitnesses, there were more than trees about the fact that there would

actually be a tent city on khreshchatyk . only a few people knew that the revolution on granite was initiated by the young generation of ukrainians who understood that there is a certain stage of transition from the empire, of which the ukrainian soviet republic was a part, to an independent state, and this is a key stage when you cannot be passive towards it already joined other generations of ukrainians, even those who evoked the idea of ​​independence in the days when one could only dream about it but were not active enough. thank you, at the beginning of the campaign, most of its participants, 80%, were from three galician regions, but soon students began to join them from other regions, the protest gained an all-ukrainian scale, the second

week became a turning point, when the communists tried to stage a provocation under the pretext of laying flowers at the monument to lenin on khreschatyk, they formed a large column of cadets of military schools and directed it just to the tent city, and then something unexpected happened. the people of kyiv, who until now seemed indifferent to the student action, suddenly came to the defense of the participants of the hunger strike. thousands of people created a human shield in front of the tent city and did not let the communists miss this scenario in a different form, it will be repeated on every subsequent maidan, it was not always started by the kyivans, but without their support, none of the ukrainian revolutions would have a chance of success, in my opinion the tent is an expression of the fact that the citizens who leave the protest are not going to go anywhere and are ready for long-term activity in the territory where it is possible, where it is achievable, namely on the street, when you

say under the cover of night, the bomb blast is written by the state authorities their buildings are one story when you go out with open faces, essentially sit down in the middle of the central square of the capital of your state, voice a list of demands and say we will not go anywhere from here, everything is a symbol of readiness to fight to the end, a whole generation has already grown up ukrainians who do not even imagine that this square once had a different name, and in fact, not even one during the russian empire for more than 40 years. it was called duma square during the soviet era, three names changed first, soviet square, later kalinin was named after an associate of stalin. and the last 15 years before independence, the great square october revolution by the way, the wording of the independence maidan

was also born during the student hunger strike. mykhailo anafosky, one of the coordinators of the action, wrote yes on the signs that they marked the territory of the tent city for a year and the square of the october revolution was officially renamed maidan nezalezhnosti, the revolution on the granite strongly pushed the processes towards the independence of ukraine, but the country itself remained very soviet and dependent on moscow, after kravchuk, the ukrainians elected leonid kuchma as president. he was a typical red director, so they called the communist industrial in the summer under kuchma , two things happened in the economy and politics that for a long time determined the trajectory of the country's development: first, the economy reached a historical minimum of gdp in 1999, it was only half of the level of 1990. this is the worst result among the post-soviet

republics and the world record. the second important moment, which also related to the political culture in the country under kuchma, was the concentration of capital and assets in the hands of several financial and industrial groups that established monopolies in entire sectors of the economy. it was a business merged with the political system, and his wealth with the state budget according to the russian tracing paper, these super-rich were called oligarchs despite the low voter support in 1999 succeeded in being re-elected for a second term, the fact that two key competitors could not take part in the election race was an advantage, ex-premier pavlo lazarenko was arrested in the usa for laundering corruption funds, the leader of the western opposition, vyacheslav chornovil, died in a mysterious car accident, which his associates still they consider it an attempt by the special services. kuchma was not against staying and

for the third term he had someone to follow, because this is what most of his colleagues in the cis did, the union of the former union republics that remained in orbit of moscow's political influence, but an event occurred that crossed out kuchma's ambitions, the opposition journalist giorgiy gongadze disappeared in the parliament , recordings were made public in which kuchma's voice spoke of physical violence against the journalist, a decapitated body was later found, mass protests began in ukraine they were called ukraine without kuchma, that was the slogan of the protesters, this slogan turned out to be attractive to a very wide range of political forces , 24 parties took part in the action, among them fierce political opponents, ultra-left socialists , ultra-right in unso, national democrats unification, it was an experience of a long-term struggle, because ukraine in kuchma

lasted longer than the orange revolution, for example, or even the revolution of dignity, and it is a willingness to unite around an idea that denies something, while subsequent revolutions to my deep conviction and feeling, it was for something, the participants of the ukraine action for free, as well as the students of 1990, set up a tent city on independence square, but later agreed to move it here to khreschatyk vlada under the pretext of reconstruction, the maidan closed the camp on the sidewalk, it turned out to be vulnerable to an unexpected attack, what happened to you in russia when the special forces of the berkut militia demolished the town on purpose, later this mistake was not repeated, although the kuchma succeeded in suppressing the protest movement in the case of

gongadze and the action ukraine without kuchma collapsed , the rating of the president increased at the same time the popularity of prime minister viktor yushchenko, who had a reputation as a western reformer and ukrainian leader during yushchenko's premiership, finally began to grow the economy, the oligarchic clans instead put a pro-russian candidate from donbas with a criminal past. it seems to me that there was no consensus among the elites around the name viktor yanukovych, there was a consensus of certain small groups, and in particular there were no to kuchma and groups that were ready to continue in this understandable spectrum a-and the politics of the rules of the coordinate system is the next political cycle of the conservatives regarding the corrupt system of governance, rather, he advocated for yanukovych as a candidate, while those who wanted wanted a change in policy, a change in access to resources, and

even in conditions of uncertainty, they put yushchenko on the eve of the election, sociological polls showed that yushchenko would win on september 5, he was invited to dinner by the newly appointed head of the sbu, ihor smeshko, on the second day, yushchenko became ill with symptoms of acute poisoning he was urgently taken to an austrian clinic, where doctors discovered the toxic substance dioxin in him, which exceeded the limit by a thousand times. yushchenko survived, but his health was undermined and his face was disfigured this case was never solved, it was obvious that the elections would be unprecedentedly dirty, exactly how the victory would be stolen from yushchenko, the opposition already knew several months before that, scandalous elections were held in mukachevo, it was there that carousels were tested, throwing ballots, bandits at the polling stations,

condescending by the police, counterfeiters as a result the candidate from the party of regions was announced as the winner. it was a rehearsal of yanukovych's victory. at that time, i was an active member of the civil company. of the well-known horizontal structure that united tens of thousands of student activists, mainly during that period of time it was obvious that a rather pricey election was being prepared, regardless of who won, the right candidate would win. i was a member of the election commission at a very young age, in my experience there were also conversations with members of the commission from viktor yanukovych regarding the fact that the lights will be turned off. they told how it would happen because even among them there were, for example, religious people who went to church, they understood what ah in a very short time the term prompts them to take what actions, that these are illegal

actions, they cannot implement them to the extent that they were asked for, the technologies were very simple , primitive and valuable. at this moment, some of the ballots were destroyed, some could be replaced and so on, we are already talking about it now as such a wild wild stage of election technology immediately after the voting day without any special scenarios we got on the bus and went to kyiv because we understood that the drama would unfold here and the entire maidan. i was in kyiv after the first round of voting among yushchenko's supporters. very soon he became a kind of distinguishing mark this is what the

online publication ukrainska pravda wrote on the eve of the second round of elections, now in kyiv , orange ribbons are almost a subject of general psychosis, and orange ribbons on taxis whose drivers love chanson so much and in mercedes whose passengers also love this radio station orange people in restaurants and in the subway in institutes and schools even though children do not have the right to vote orange everywhere orange around i think it still referred to an exclusive list of regions, not all of ukraine, unfortunately and because you would not have felt such a dialogue or such a sense of mass in donetsk or luhansk, and this also made sense because the other side tried to present hostility, then those colorists the symbols are such and others. on november 21, 2004, the second round of voting takes place. the national

exit poll shows that yushchenko won the election with 54% to yanukovych's 43, but the head of the cec serhiy kivalov announces other data where yanukovych is in the lead without waiting for the final vote count. the president of russia, vladimir putin, is the first to congratulate with the victory of yanukovych, yushchenko appeals to his voters to go out for a mass protest, our actions will be peaceful, absolutely in accordance with the laws and the constitution, but adequate to the actions of the authorities in the same the time when the government drove armored personnel carriers under the central committee and government buildings. i led a column of students from the polytechnic university to independence square, we walked through the city and i was not at all sure whether it would be several months of work to deploy a network of activists, their arrests by the police, hundreds of actions. was it all in vain, doubts

dispersed. when we arrived at independence square , there were thousands of people with yellow and red ribbons and flags. the revolution began after almost a month of protests. the authorities were forced to go to re-elections. on december 26, they were finally won . viktor yushchenko, so ukrainians defended one of the basic freedoms, the right to choose, which allowed their country to remain democratic and therefore independent. ukraine became an independent state in 1991, but the basic democratic freedoms of speech, assembly, choice, and citizens had to defend even after that in the confrontation with the crowd, which disappeared very slowly mass protests in the center of the capital in ukraine and the world know about the euromaidan of 2013-14, the orange

maidan of 2004, but it was not the first the revolution on the granite, which had these signs of what will later be called the maidan, conveyed fear - it is natural, you do not choose to feel it or not, but it is only your choice what to do with it, whether it will win or whether you will turn it into a righteous anger anger that will ignite the heart and give strength to move forward this fear, we have something to lose, and therefore

to defend at such an incredible cost, but great freedom was not gained at a cost, every step we take today is a step into a happy future. each of us is here because we tamed the cities, learned to manage them, made as our ally, no matter how difficult it may be for us, but it will definitely not be a shame. 180 days of our resistance to the russian invaders continues for your attention . angelica works part-time in the studio. the air force is ready for any development on august 24. words why the defenders conduct constant intelligence, the ukrainian side takes into account the presence of russians