that this is the germ of the future management personnel of russia itself, there are fewer of them now, and how much time will pass after the end of the war. when ukraine wins it, so that the russians come with remorse in front of everyone, part of the funds will simply be collected from the russians, there were conversations in the national security service in the white house, in congress, in the department of finance where the analysis of the possibility of transferring the frozen funds of russian assets continues, these are hundreds of billions of dollars, they must be used for the reconstruction of ukraine. so, russia

must pay the price, pay reparations, and atone for a sin, you know, atonement is one thing, but there you need a real fight with your own past, a rethinking of russianness, you know, this is the tragedy of russia that after the fall of the ussr , people like sakharov or those who protested against the occupation of czechoslovakia did not become its heroes. in 1968 , the dissidents only returned to the russian of the imperial historical canon, russia must reinvent itself and only then will it become safe for all its neighbors, we cannot do it instead of them, they must want it themselves. it's a pity for russians and such people, at present most consider

stalin, the murderer of millions of people, to be heroes, and let's return to the war that russia has now unleashed in ukraine, at the beginning of february you said that it would be enough to destroy 300 russian tanks and russia would stop the attack, but the number of destroyed russian tanks exceeded 1800 by mid-august and russia continues to fight and take the lives of both military and civilians, where did you go wrong, please remember that it was at the munich security conference when the majority of analysts and politicians, including your the president believed that there would be no war. and i told the

ukrainian parliamentarians that there will be a war by next week and that if you don't fight as you didn't fight for crimea, no one will help you, and if you destroy 300 tanks, you will shoot down at least a hundred planes and helicopters and neutralize at least 10,000 russians, then their offensive will be choked and the west will start helping you. so i consider this phrase one of the most accurate of my predictions, because the russian offensive on kyiv has ended just like the next kharkiv one, and the world has obviously started helping you. and now your the military very wisely uses the defense systems handed over by the west. therefore, i believe that the war is currently in the phase when russia is already sending

reserves into battle and ukraine can gain an advantage." this is how we receive help from europe and the usa, which is very important for us, and we have results, we do not lose so is our military, each of whom is important to us, unlike russia, which throws its soldiers into battle and does not think about the cost of their lives. putin constantly keeps the world in fear by threatening to use nuclear weapons before he said that if something were to happen, but there have already been several explosions in crimea, and then he never resorted to it, will he really use nuclear

weapons ? have already said, namely the difference in the behavior of ukraine and russia in relation to their own soldiers, because this is part of how ukraine and russia treat their citizens, war tests systems, and the russian system in which a citizen or soldier is not considered a human appears to be ineffective, and a system in which a reasonable and conscious what a soldier fights for, who is supported by hundreds of sympathizers. moreover, non-governmental organizations and democratic allies abroad are effective. putin is leading to the degradation of russia in many areas, and this also applies to the reputation of the russian army. it seems that now we are less afraid of putin than before the attack on ukraine, because we

also believed that he has an army comparable to the us army, i think he himself thought so, but it turned out that in a totally corrupt country, the army is also totally corrupt, and this spills over into ineffectiveness ukraine was also a totally corrupt country, but it successfully overcame corruption , not to the extent we would like, but it is enough that the army had why to fight these strikes on crimea are of great importance, first of all, the whole world is puzzled how you managed it, it is not known whether these are more long-range

american projectiles is it aviation or sabotage, the last is not the least likely. but in any case, from a purely military point of view, another operation is possible . first of all, secondly, the fact that putin moved outside the donbass and struck from crimea, and now crimea is under attack makes no difference between the territories captured in 2014 and now. this fact may have political significance and may lead to some negotiations. and thirdly, if we are talking about nuclear weapons, i do not think that putin will dare to attack the west and it will not

look like pressing a button. the button, if there is one at all, i don’t think there is one, but looking through the prism of the metaphor, it is for the use of intercontinental missiles. most of all, he is considering the option of using tactical-level weapons on the battlefield, they are polishing their doctrine of escalation because of d-escalation, i don't think he will do it, because he has been warned that in the event of something like this, the west will not expect consequences for another frank and dramatic violation of the budapest memorandum.

we were both allies and enemies, some issues to this day remain irritating for both sides although now poland is helping ukraine a lot, as it was during the revolution of dignity, for which we are very grateful and we highly appreciate it, and not so long ago prime minister moravetskyi compared bandera and putin, which sounded quite strange to ukrainians, because for many in ukraine, bandera is a symbol of the struggle against the russian occupation, so i ask you, should we leave the past in the past or should we do the opposite to talk about difficult moments so that they are not manipulated by any politicians or

our moscow enemies who always try to use polish-ukrainian history in their own way, especially when they see how poland supports ukraine, the party to which i belong, the civic platform is in opposition to moravetskyi's nationalist party, which is in power, after all, he has other ambiguous statements in the nationalist spirit, but you know that we will probably never agree on those issues. in this way, certain historical figures would lose their controversy when i was the minister of defense of poland visited me, my mongolian colleague obviously exchanged gifts, he brought me something that was very important to him, the collection was nicely arranged

medals made in honor of the 800th anniversary of genghis khan, who in mongolia is a hero to whom monuments are erected, the ministers in poland told him genghis khan is a very ambiguous figure , the principle principle is the fact that ukraine and poland do not have mutual territorial claims regarding even the smallest pieces of the territory of both countries what was the cause of wars and murders does not exist today, and both countries see themselves in the future as part of a strong european family of nations, this is what brings us together on a fundamental level and i hope is

the basis of a deep polish-ukrainian union, not only during the war but also during your journey to the eu and after your accession to the eu, my last questions will be about the future, how do you think this war should end, this is an easy question, a victory for ukraine and a defeat for putin, and a defeat unequivocal, as a result of which he would be removed from power and a new generation would come to power in russia, because i hope that it will have a different approach to the european neighbors of democracy,

but i will not be one of those who will prompt how should ukraine conduct negotiations? putin has formulated his conditions for ending the war. ukraine must capitulate. you have also formulated your conditions. russia must completely withdraw from ukraine by itself. so far, both positions have no points of convergence during the course of hostilities. which of the parties may change their negotiating positions because the war - this is politics by other methods. at the end, i will say one more thing that could be significant for you. how will you

win this war one way or another? personally pushed through during poland's vote in the eu the text of the agreement was agreed in 2012 and then putin dissuaded yanukovych and did not put it into effect and this is actually where the maidan began and then everything else now you are implementing this agreement and will conduct negotiations on eu membership in the spirit of frankness as i warned you during the maidan and a week before the war, i warn you in a friendly way now, although that process is called negotiations, but the eu has its own legal developments, which cover more than 80,000 pages for the sake of ukraine, they will not be changed as they were not changed for the sake of ukraine

poland so this is not a negotiation, but a voluntary acceptance of those developments and the legal system, so don't waste your time again, convinced that you are playing some kind of game, you should translate those 80 thousand pages of legal acts and vote them in the verkhovna rada, the sooner you do it, the sooner you will be a member of the eu, i hope that ukrainians will too and the ukrainian authorities understand that what is a victory for you, a victory for me will be a democratic european ukraine within its internationally recognized borders, successful and inspiring for belarus and russians thank you, sir

radislav for this conversation thank you for supporting ukraine thank you that poland is next to ukraine and helps us win this war glory to the heroes it was radoslav sikorsky, a politician, diplomat and former minister of foreign affairs of poland with us espresso tv channel continues an information and analytical day in the next hours about the most important we will talk with the best ukrainian, not only ukrainian experts and the brilliant khrestina yatskiv" we definitely cannot do without and that in the near future we will not be able to do without shelter because the signal is sounding

air alarm and we urge you not to ignore these signals at least in the coming days and that in general we will briefly interrupt our live broadcast and descend from there exposure in a new way to your broadcasting stay with us ukraine this is exactly in our people exactly in ukraine we have never had absolutely and freedoms have always pressed us, and when, from childhood, looking at our little children now, who set up roadblocks that collect funds for the armed forces, that's exactly how he grew up, he grew up reading history, he loved history very much ah, that is, he was a patriot, what about

he liked it as a child, and growing up you just know that even with the right principles and understanding that it cannot be like that, that you have no right to do this, that we need to do it, we need to win it back. that is, at the beginning of the war 8 years ago, he immediately went to give a vase. that is, he was a young man who burned with the desire to win back his homeland , that is, this is the thirst for the freedom of his nation, that is, it always burned in him, that is, it is not simple desire and i will go to fight. yes, i will go to do it, no , he is right there for the home, for the people, for the children, for the future, so that it will finally be over, here are the hundred-year wars and this whole story to me from some young ordinary soldier, he grew up to a senior

officer a- and that is, he could already teach the younger ones to tell how he, by his own example, went through this path from the bottom to the top, well , in all the battles in all the important cities there, and the main place of his job deployment was always in mariupol for all these eight years. they always knew what it will be because this thing stretched for 8 years. well , it stretched on and there was no end to it, and of course there had to be an end, and the end had to be what it was very bloody, that is, well, there is no other way this story with donbas would have ended in us because russia has always wanted more land, always, well, these are political issues. well, what kind? well, of course, even an 11th-grader who studies the history of ukraine will understand that they will not end with this story . the military understood it all the more because they were there and in the whole zone and closer and they saw the mood of others that is, they always happened in this tension.

of course, they understood, analyzed and studied in six months. they knew exactly what was going to happen. when they didn't know yet, but they knew what was going to happen and that's all, that is, at the moment when it all started there, i remember in february she said that it would happen 21 on the 23rd or the 23rd, but there was already a clear confidence that it would happen, but it was only among those who knew you or in this, that is, your wife, even some sisters there, something like that, they did not believe in my case, but they knew, they were preparing, they all these they studied for years, of course they prepared everything for this, they understood what it would be. sometimes they would only do 15 minutes a day. that is, constant battles, active constant battles , there was too much equipment in russia and she never let them rest, that is, one of them came yet two, and here they constantly had work, they changed there, then they separated from each other, and

even the ties between them were broken, uh, about the very beginning of this, like then. it was difficult to find someone from relatives there, when the boys who are there in kharkiv , in kyiv, they cannot contact their to to find out where another friend is because he doesn't answer and that 's how my friend's brother died, you found out only there two weeks later and you said what. well, there was no contact, how to even find out what happened to him, and then already through the drone they found how to watch. well, that 's it it happened how hard it was for them and how long they fought for, well, every piece of that mariupol. that is, there were several days that he did not write there, maybe more, maybe less . probably the whole house heard and i am writing to him the whole house heard he says what, i say well, you know how a small child is given a gift and she writes with joy he says, i'll give you a gift, you say as i thought and here we always had it until the end

, he said that your gift will also come through me two weeks exactly. it was my birthday , uh. and i don't know how it happened, but they were already in captivity, but i received a gift with a note from him that uh, when we meet, i'll hug you tightly and kiss your cheek, and this confidence when see you when i'm around, which is always what he wrote to me during those three months of hell. well, how can you not love there after that, how can you not believe in our guys after that? well, it 's just that, it's just some incredible fantasy , but this fantasy is not eva, it's our ukraine, it's our ukrainians, it's my husband is simple, well, it’s very cool that we have such guys, on may 19 he wrote heavily after that, he didn’t answer anymore, and everything about the negotiations, so what’s the matter with what will happen? nobody

knew, they didn’t tell anyone, if you consider all the posts there history is all that they wrote it was possible to understand that you are preparing for this, there are some leading people there, they wrote that it is always difficult to do some exhibitions and actions there, and even if it is something bad for you, it does not mean that it is bad for the military. that is, it was possible to understand a little, but who thought and it was a long process of negotiations just on one day, when on the 19th, he had to write hard and another guy there, alvarez, he published a story for the fact that i found my phone, that one day i will leave, but i will at the end, i will definitely i will never come back two months, and even those boys who had already been released from captivity, er, i don’t know, they didn’t hear, well, they were all separated, they were divided, well, after all, there were many people and they were specially separated in order to

er have some kind of demoralized character, that is, that you yourself there is no one near me. i think that they died there, and in russia, what kind of actions do they take in general, when they have prisoners, someone there has already been shot, now we will kill you, they are beating you and the like, that is, this is psychological pressure. they think that they can also be knocked down somehow by this, but oh well after all, the guys are really not those guys, they are afraid of them, even somehow regarding the lists that you will see a complete list of everyone who is there, there is no such thing either well, simply, there is information from our side, but to be confirmed from the other side of course not, of course the family association with the circumstance of water talks with him, that is, when there is such an opportunity, of course, they call there, er, they schedule meetings there, maybe they ask something else , a-a well, of course, regarding there some advice or something else

well, of course, the authorities will not deal with this with the family there consult well, well, something else, but we're just, well, just waiting, because the government is doing it, and we're waiting when you found out about this first exchange and there it was said that there are uh people, the connection of steel and azov people were looking for familiar faces, of course there was very strong hope, but it was a sober understanding of the fact that i'm still not something, a stupid girl that, well, they won't let him go. well , he definitely won't, it's also like in those teams of other commanders, well, they won't let them go, no matter what. moreover, he is whole and uninjured. that's how some kind of logical thinking always stops emotions, because we all know that the more expected, the more disappointments, and two years ago my brother died, six months later my father died and two weeks later my uncle died, and that is, the situation was

so atypical. that is, there were accidents, the coronavirus and well, of course, it was hard. usually well, it’s been 22 years since i lost all the men who are my relatives, but he always supported me and it was with such a plan that i would think more. well, when you think, you calm down a lot and of course you understand something more , that is, when you think clearly is when you make some logical conclusions you come to the right conclusions of actions and in this he learned from me this faith that he will return and uh that's exactly what he is like what love he gave me i feel him always near you just know when you leave on relations with the military. you already understand what to expect, especially when there is a war in the country, and even not as full-scale as it was now, of course they understood what was going on, of course i understood that

it would be difficult, it would be difficult. he told me about it, he was preparing me, and of course he is sure that they will return, there is even a plan of action if well, in what case, what will happen, what state will he be in ? this is reassuring, what can we all do to help these guys not to forget not to forget about them because to understand what i said that there was little talk about them even for this exchange of prisoners of war , few people knew about it. go to a coffee shop and ask. have you heard about the exchange of prisoners of war if the exchange was and when and show me there is, that is, i said that people have already stopped focusing on what is happening on td. they are there, that is, i understand what is wrong with him, i understand how that side relates, that is, a bunch

of previous stories of some kind. it hurts a lot but everything can be passed, that is, people who are not even close to it, no, it doesn’t touch it, they certainly don’t know. they forget there, they already think that there is a quarrel on instagram, it is no longer worth anything, but if one person publishes and there 10 his followers of friends are published like this 10 10 you have already seen a thousand, you have seen millions, and this is exactly what is needed, even those who collect for other guys immediately understand that we still need to help other guys who are still struggling, but it all died out because of people's activities they started there, well, how can i say, not to live and score on it, they just started not to focus on it, they turned off notifications on telegrams, they don't read the news, they don't know what's happening, that is, even in kyiv, it's here now

walking among people, uh, i feel like i'm talking about marvel, because everyone is like that. well, it's normal. they live there, they get high there under curfews, a lot of people, when the guys are really dying now so that we can leave, but you need to understand that there is a war going on even in neighboring cities. the city of kharkiv is being destroyed, here in kyiv they don’t even know how that kharkiv is destroyed every day, but every day i’m on the phone with my mother and i just think if it hadn’t already flown into the house there, because it has already flown everywhere and it’s very, very, very scary. after than me i left kharkiv, eh. i'll be honest, i wasn't going to leave there because i understood that i wanted to help. actually, we helped, but the situation also got out of control when rockets flew into the administration, we were inside and the next day we went to the gunp building and two rockets flew there, and that's when my sister collapsed on the

stairs. i was in the basement, she was a horseman at first, but she got us, the foreman was in the parliament, and that is why i had to leave. you need to always know and not forget that there are such guys who are in captivity, who really kept hell for 86 days so that we could leave like that. so that our military had moved somewhere there, when i knew that he was in mariupol , for example, just knowing what he can do, what kind of mind he has and what kind of person he is, i was calmer because i knew that he is in the right place. if you told me , would you tell him not to go somewhere? no , i never have