tv [untitled] August 22, 2022 4:30pm-5:01pm EEST
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say friends next question please please introduce yourself we see you iryna prudkova mariupol first of all i want to thank the defenders of mariupol and the question is like what personal help do you or your families need please denis maybe you can tell me to all the participants a question help patronage service azov well, if you can apply, contact her and they will provide you with this information. the fact is that in azov there is a patronage in all units conditionally azov. the so -called patronage service is a service that deals with
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treatment, rehabilitation, help for families, children , parents, wives, and so on. if there is an opportunity to help, you can contact olena tolkachova on facebook, telegram, or angels of azov. she has been working professionally for eight years and has been helping soldiers and their families. thank you. next question, please. we will see you . please introduce yourself. we see you, please. greetings . my name is vladyslav mastruk. i am the producer of ukrainian guberan. i still have some time left . well, first of all, i wanted to thank the guys who are currently present at this press conference. ukrainian, i say. and as a producer of my publication,
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i have a question. it can be a bit strange, it concerns the boys’ not being in azovstal , it concerns the assassination attempt on daria dukhina ’s daughter, uh, russian propaganda, we are uh, there, the russian fsb noted that the perpetrator of this attempt is uh- e is an employee of the national guard of ukraine, namely the azov regiment, namely nataliya shaban pavlivna, this is natalya pavlivna shaban. have you ever met mrs. natalia shaban? to be a daughter sofia 12 years old, are they in mariupol without the last time you crossed paths with this person or did it not stop because all the data that is known is a statement from the fsb and there is such a russian site, it
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is not similar to the peacemaker and there they collect data there from various of our military and yes more and there are data about shaban nataliya, er, pavlovna, born in the 79th year of birth, who was a soldier in the azov regiment, well, that is, in fact, this is how it is. do you know anything or can you comment on it in some way? yes, if possible, i will answer this question because i read this news well, literally there half an hour ago, and well, she was discovered, she seemed so funny to me, a little, well, why is she funny, because in my opinion, it is the fsb that does not finalize the money that it receives as a salary, because this fake looks very, very, very funny, i will explain why first, no, i don't i personally know this person, this girl , secondly, these are the documents that they showed, they
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mean the enemy's side, his information publications, these are the documents of a person who is not a soldier of the azov regiment, let me explain why , because our uniform clothes and cartoons and so eh all our documents were with a photo of which soldiers were in cartoon uniforms, you can now check this news there, uh, this woman is in the uniform of the national guard, and it is written on her in this service card that she is a soldier of the national guard of ukraine, the military units 30-57 belongs to the military unit 3057 , a separate special-purpose unit azov belongs but not all who serve in the military unit 30-57 are soldiers of the azov osp and this woman does not belong to this azov regiment either, but still it's such a funny fact that where the operative could get this information in general, these documents, er,
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literally. yesterday i found on one of the russian channels, er, you can say my documents in my name - this is a bank card that i received and which i have left at the base which is now under the control of the enemy, i.e. the enemy actually found these documents in my case and issued them as uh-uh documents after he died he promised but as you can see i uh-uh now i didn't die also according to my for my surname and name you can find it in their public enough so popular in the case of this woman. it is about the same if you look very carefully at what is written in pencil on her certificate, you can see that this certificate was changed due to the fact that she got married. that is, it is an old old certificate of this woman that was just lying around somewhere or it was lying there in the archive in the territory of the military unit 30-57 in the city of mariupol, that is, the enemy found these documents and
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is now issuing them as a business card of yarosh. such an unthought-out one that simply breaks down the facts, if anyone is interested in something, you can check all that i am saying now. well, i think that obviously the command of the azov regiment or the azov military police will make a separate statement on this matter, but i would like to clarify, guys, do you know in general the principle of the existence of at least one woman in the status of a colonel in azov, as far as we know, there were no such women in azov, but in principle there are many women in azov, the more women there are, how do they say a fighter, a fighter yes, there are snipers, who are there, there are many years, i personally do not know a single woman in the azov regiment who would take a direct part in hostilities , that is, not a single woman sniper or a woman submachine gunner there or a machine gunner, i do not
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know if there were female soldiers in our regiment, they were or some body positions or staff positions. that is, this is the administration, you can say that, but no, not the fighters. personally, i only know guys who had military specialties , that's exactly what they are related to firearms, so if they talk about some there are female snipers of the azov regiment or there are grenade launchers or someone else, it will all be a fake, thank you, i think the minus is exhaustive for e colleagues for you e there were no women in the azov regiment who would directly shoot and kill, were they engaged in something like that, please, next question, we already see you please introduce yourself to me.
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good day. olena rabinska. channel five. greetings and wishes for a speedy rehabilitation in all senses to our soldiers. thank you. a big, uh, next question may sound uh, it's not quite logically formed, but we are here on ukrainian territory always seems that we should have done something, we don't talk much, especially about the defenders of azovstal, or we do it too much , and some quarrels start because someone is wrong. he spread something on social networks, i didn't check the information, but that's how people want to support and that's actually keep this information wave in such a way that the whole world hears about our defenders, in particular, and those who are now in captivity .
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the whole world is shouting what is this kind of support from the people for you , what can we as journalists, as citizens, do even more. and actually, wasn't there such a feeling that you and other fighters from other units were treated worse and got angry because of that who saw such crazy support from ukraine. thank you. you appreciate it. well, actually, what else can we do so that the world does not forget about the war in ukraine? thank you . i understand the question is it good or bad in the context of the release from captivity, please? yes, in the context of the moment, what worries me the most is uh, my friends who
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are in the deer park, who were evacuated from the territory of azovstali, but the enemy is not uh, uh, fulfilling the promises he made you understand, in general , this is normal for the enemy, the russian side has always , er, violated the agreements that it concluded with anyone in general, this is a historical fact. the fact that personally my friends are now in a deer park, er, personally, my friends died during a terrorist attack in volynivka, and also russia constantly gives out some kind of information, but it is fake information , that is, russia quickly made evil fakes today about this woman who seems to be er involved in the murder of dugin's daughter, she also quickly made up
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some facts about the fawn, ihimers, and so on. well, here i want to shout to the whole world about uh, these violations of the agreement, you understand, that is, russia does not comply with international she does not fulfill any agreements concluded there, international conventions, this is very, very disturbing and very frightening for the fate of the boys who are there now. that is, this is this. my personal friends, therefore, for me, this is a personal question, a journalist, so there is so much about you. they talk on social networks and so on, did it hinder or help you there in captivity, uh, we didn't know what they were saying about us in captivity , as i already said, all we heard was that nobody needed anything about us. they forgot that uh, we were ours the leadership of our politicians there is ours
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the command has forgotten and they don't need us inconvenient at all, now i see something else, i see that we are necessary , and even more so i know myself. they said that there is too much talk about you, we will beat you more, or, on the contrary, they don't say anything about you, so don't even hope that you will be released. not our country needs us, we don't need our president, i need our people, we don't need anyone at all, and in short, we will be killed or something like that will happen and that's it, but it's like, well, there's something extra careless, but so-and-so said to my aunt and now you definitely won't be fired, but that was the case. no, they always said that ukraine does not
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comply with the agreement and everything is the same, that they don't need us, they don't want to exchange you from me for, uh, exchange, there's something else like that. well, uh, there was always just the reason they found a reason and never they they are always looking for someone to blame, they will never say that you are not they that they do everything right they are looking for someone to blame they are saints i all the other lines denys said something to you in captivity there, for example, there zelensky is somehow wrong he said something, now we will apply you there to you are such a tool in this regard, or there are people talking about you in social networks, and therefore it will harm your exchange. we did not have any such information, no one told you anything, they indicated that in zaporozhye already under them kharkiv is already under them they are already under kiev
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they will soon take kyiv, this is what nobody needs us, there was a threat of shooting, uh, there was no more information like that, there was no constant threat and that they have already taken all of our ukraine, and you didn't believe it it’s clear, thank you friends, the next question is a little delayed in the broadcast, so who’s there? i have one more question for the third participant, if i’m not mistaken, the call sign is cherry, yes. first of all, thank you for what happened in the deer park, but how they did and destroyed my brothers about it. and more specifically, that you tell about it if
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you can. well, the whole world has already seen that it is not a whim , it is not ukraine, for something, it is not our bombs, or something. they did it and it contradicts the geneva conventions , in particular, humanity contradicts everything, well, in your opinion , in general, what happened what is your version of what happened ? i don't know what else they did, they did a terrorist attack, this is a terrorist country, i think so. is this my opinion? thank you, friends,
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next question please. good afternoon, dmytro sytnenko , tsn. that's how they behave, and i'll clarify my question. my grandmother once told me that during the occupation of kyiv, the germans were different, they were adequate, there were scum, and i don't know the ratio there, fifty-fifty, were you in captivity, were you normal, adequate russians, or are they still in the majority to my animals, thank you, thank you for the question, please, come on, let me get you started, there were normal
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russians, there are good russians, good russians , i don't know, i met some who agreed, better , worse, what are they ? to them, it will probably never happen, denise, the best and the worst have met , in general, how do we characterize the attitude of our russians towards us, i said that there are no better or worse, they are already better, we will never become better, well, what was needed, just when i got to the fsb in russia, they were the first the medical examination was calm, well, they questioned me calmly , they didn't threaten anything, they gave me damn it, they gave me two cigarettes so that i could quickly smoke one with the boys, and then it just started that the
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burdens of life began. i don’t know about us, there probably aren’t any of them and there won’t be any. vladislav, please, i want to say that you know about odesa, answer the question with a question, that is, where do you expect that i could see some adequate russians there good russians or anyone else, how would they get there for my interrogations to guard me or treat me, they don't take good russians there . these are those whom i can consider good russians. and i will tell you where they are in i know normal and adequate citizens of the russian federation . these are civilized, educated people who, even before the start of full-scale aggression or immediately after it, went abroad for their own borders, and now, in the
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majority, in such an overwhelming majority that we can say that almost all of them help us in some way now it is humanitarian aid, but they chose this side not because they somehow love ukraine or something else, they chose the side of civilization, they chose the side of some certain humanism, that is, they did not choose the side of a, let's support our people, just because they are theirs, no, well it is mostly the majority of russians, er, their population thinks so, and adequate normal russians are, yes, they are, i have already said where they are and what they are doing now. that is, i do not even consider normal adequate russians those who are on the territory of the russian federation and are silent, because i understand that they are afraid, but they continue to do some work in their country with their fear, and this is an aggressor country - this
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is a terrorist country. efr agencies please tell me, in view of all this pressure from the russians and moral and physical suffering, what was the moral and psychological state of those of your brothers with whom you could communicate during captivity, and besides, was it even possible to somehow prepare for such conditions, and did you receive such training in azov, and did it work? did you do any kind of preparation or did it work? you know , very often we were accused of this during interrogations, that starting with the fact that you pray to the stumps of avisazova, that is, they disrespected the faith of certain guys
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there who have their own pagan views ah and eh in general, they really liked to ask about some kind of political, political, some kind of occupation there with well, some kind of upbringing, no, that didn’t happen, that’s why, you know, what worked here was that we all knew where we were going and we are just trained fighters er, this is the most important thing in general, that what can work . that is, we understand that we did not choose this war, er, but we have to do what we do. that is, it is not that we attacked a neighboring state, it attacked us and we have no right somehow behave differently. thank you , denys, you were prepared by the tanks steve told them what could happen and such a thing as captivity. and did such training help ? we were not prepared for this. we started. well, we went through
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purely combat training. we did not have such training. well, we cannot be broken, because we are ukrainians to the last. we prayed there and believed that we would be exchanged. and all of our batteries will also be replaced, we believe it and pray, thank you, thank you, i was ready for such a development in podillia, the man who landed in the surrounded mariupol, i will remind you and understood that he could be shot down on approach , my country is ready, i love my ukraine and we all love her and we would give our lives for our country and for our people. i also want to clarify that the testimony of all three boys is obvious, well , according to the question about whether they are ready to testify at the international criminal court in gaza or any other which other international
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institutions in relation to the actions of the russian federation, then obviously all three guys are ready to testify both in the courts about the conditions of detention of prisoners and in general about what russia was doing in mariupol during the a-a of all this time since on the 24th and until the end of may, while they were there in mariupol and their testimony is documented and will be used if necessary in any trials against the russian federation, they are just azovians, they do not complain as a rule. they are very strong, really prepared, they are going through a serious selection before getting there. therefore, obviously there is no complaint about how terribly they were beaten and tortured there, but all these testimonies are documented and they were all subjected to torture and torture. please, next question , introduce yourself, please, we already see you
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believe in any influence of a fake fact on the part of the russian federation, that is, she really may not die, she really may be killed by some kind of resistance movement inside the russian federation. and uh, in general, i don’t really understand right now ah. why was this terrorist attack done in general, that is, in general? yes, in some ways, it looks like a fake . politicians and that's why it was there if it was destroyed and now it is a statement of the fact that they publish this uh, well, we can actually say that in relation to this opinion, uh, they publish as if this is the matter of the movement of the azov regiment. but as i said at the beginning, this is their version which they made public as the official version, it is not a-a how can you even
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believe any of their er-er news their conclusion if this news is their conclusion it is an obvious lie thank you yes dmytro maybe this is some kind of media preparation for this court of the so-called which can happening in the next couple of days how about you do you think it might be possible, by the way, i only found out about it here. do you think you even know such a person in azov? daria dugina is well-known, well-known or her father . no, i don’t know such a person. i think selfie yes please , i will also add that uh, do you understand the azov regiment - this is a military unit, we are not engaged in politics at all uh, we are engaged in war on the field on the battlefield, so you understand this, this is this event with
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dugin's daughter, she looks like as an event which is the first in turn, it should affect the population of the russian federation, because in general i did not know about its existence before this news, but there in the russian federation, this news is presented as a huge tragedy, that is, they play on the emotions of ordinary people, they somehow play on the feeling of pity for this, you understand, the daughter of someone there er there is their policy as far as i understand. that is, let's say that there is a russian philosopher er propagandist and now it all works um against against a possible future process er against our er well defenders of our country, that is, in general, it is very similar to a certain
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fake, you understand. maybe she really died, and i do not question this. it is possible that it is true, but it is a statement of fact, i will not say that any of my acquaintances uh, i knew about her in general, about this daughter, i was somehow interested in her life. but uh, it seems like this. we planned it, we did it, we dreamed about it . i don't care about her father, i don't care about those people who came here from weapons and exterminated tens of thousands of peaceful mariupol residents, this is what i saw with my own eyes, i do n't care about those who went to busha to irpen and killed our fellow citizens and engaged in looting, rape and murder, primarily of peaceful people i don't care about them, and i'm not very interested in dugin's daughter at all, thank you, thank you, friends, next question, please
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, tv channel, in your opinion, what goals did the enemy pursue by organizing a mass execution in the deer park and presenting it as a terrorist attack? well, accordingly, the second derivative the question is whether now the story of the pseudo-murderer of dugin's daughter will not be linked to the story of the possible tribunal over the soldiers of the azov regiment that will take place and of course the tribunal in quotation marks and so on, it will be a demonstrative ugliness, but it is coming thank you thank you dmytro let's start with you olenivka what is this for was done and they want to hide
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their traces of torture as they tortured and questioned the boys, that is, they simply tortured a certain number of people and then passed it off i think so in relation to dugina as far as i understood the question whether this or that will be used during this so-called illegitimate theatrical action that is expected on independence day in mariupol possible possible yes i do not know at all what kind of person this is and from where i support my brother in wikipedia that i do not care about those tens of thousands of people whom they killed in mariupol, it is clear, denis, please . so, why did what happened in the deer park , this act of terrorism, and will history be used ?
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