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it was done and they want to hide their traces of torture as they tortured and asked the guys that is they just tortured a certain number of people and then passed it off hmm i think so about the rainbow as far as i understand the question is this or that will be used during this so called illegitimate theatrical action expected on independence day in mariupol possible possible yes, i do not know at all what kind of person this is and from where i support my brother wikipedia that i do not care about those tens of thousands of people who they killed in mariupol, of course, denis, please . so, why did what happened in the deer park , this act of terrorism, and will the story with the rainbow be used during the so-called, in your opinion, this
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tribunal? they couldn't resist the boys' pleading so that no one saw it, no one knew about it, what did ukraine do, what did ukraine do? that arcs can't they use everything for this? well, i don't know how it's right to even open it, i didn't know her and don't want to ask her to answer. thank you, i'll try to give a very detailed answer. to hold this so-called tribunal is how they want it, er, to file that as if this is really a real tribunal, that's why they
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will definitely use it, and so that you understand exactly what they will use, remember my words that russia is not looking for the truth, it will not be a tribunal with a purpose search for the truth for russia, there are already certain conclusions that she made for herself, but you will understand that she did not even make it for herself, and she wants to show what she has prepared, that is, in the russian federation, as far as i know in general, in courts, in ordinary civil courts , there are about 2% of exculpatory negotiations, that is, the court there is not a body that searches for the truth and decides who is guilty, who is not, an ordinary civil court in the russian federation is a process during which they try to pseudo-officially uh show why this person is guilty, i.e. don't look for
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whether she is guilty or not. no, she is already guilty from the point of view of the court, and just then what she gives as facts is about as far as i can imagine now, this is my possible the future trial of my friends, that is, russia has a certain goal, there are already goals, she has already set aside for herself that these people will be named by russia and the party uh, that is why she is now pulling some uh, testimony there from some witnesses, some international observers, in order to extradite it's like the truth but what kind of witnesses will these be, they will be some completely unknown citizens who will say something on camera, in fact, russia will present it as ours , these witnesses will be some uh, citizens of other countries , uh, they will not be competent people at all, but citizens of other countries, citizens of other countries countries, that's why russia will submit it as ours, it's an international process, that is, there maybe there will be some representatives of
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syria, maybe there will be representatives of some north korea, belarus, at all, not at all, not essential, but it's from another country, from another means that already in fact international, as for her, in fact, she will file as an international process the same. there will be used some uh, certain things that russia will consider as a fact, for example, the fact that he killed the murder, the possible fact of the murder of duna's daughter, and it's not just like that either she weaves her way there and the azov regiment, uh, i won't be surprised if uh, those who have been knocked out during interrogations appear at some uh, there are testimonies of my friends that they uh, under torture, will sign that they know this woman with the surname vovk eh -e or something else, that is, they are actually just simple they will demonstratively imitate some kind of court process, but if you have critical thinking, then imagine that they already know the conclusion
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they want to write and will weave in some very low-level facts and you will see that their evidence is really low -level the facts do not have anything direct in them, it will always be something that we cannot actually verify. but russia will pass it off as a fact, so it is important to understand that it will use all possible methods in order to pass off the defenders of ukraine as criminals, as, as, as a crime, as criminals, so answering all possible further questions, yes, indeed, she will use everything possible, she will weave in there some daughters of dugyna, she will weave in there some er, mythical murdered er, mariupol people who were killed er -e by the hands of the azov people or not necessarily at all by the hands of the defenders of mariupol here but
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you understand the statement of the fact it's not their artillery not their planes it's not our artillery not our planes and uh not our tanks not our ships destroyed it tens of thousands of residents died in the city, and this is a statement of fact, why why do i say that this is a fact, because the defense force of mariupol did not have such a number of firearms to make sense of what happened, but now they will show it at the trial what are the azov marines who are to blame? those who defended the city. thank you, friends. thank you for the questions. we only have the last 3-4 questions left. the effects of the painkiller are not all seriously injured please see the picture we do not see the person please say congratulations espresso tv channel khrystyna yatskiv
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please tell me if there is a difference in the treatment by the russians and you and the azovians and for example with the representatives and other representatives of the mariupol garrison and e- the same is the second question, have you been contacted by any human rights organizations or international organizations in order to collect all your testimonies regarding the violation by the russians of the geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war thank you for the question we'll start with you. so, did international organizations contact russia about the violation of the geneva conventions? they brought out the flags. i saw them and went to azov. i didn't see them after that. was it the red
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cross? marines or national guardsmen separately, the national guard unit was also in azov steel or to sbu employees or to patrol police employees who were also in australia. i was in the hospital in heels in the 15th hospital of donetsk, my there i didn’t see that, please denis, there is a difference , and so on. well, let’s say that there is a difference. yes , there is a little, because when they heard that the azov regiment and the position of tankman or something else were there, they immediately conducted more interrogations of the azov residents. they wanted to gather more propaganda of all kinds in azov. they told the guys there that the national guardsmen and the marines were all that and asked, did you see how he blew up houses there with nitrogen or killed people? well, it was nothing at all, and the guys all refused to do it, like we
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didn't see it, it didn't happen, they didn't say that and we they said that they saw azov bringing medicines , water, food to civilians, please, i will say yes, it really was the difference between an azov or a marine or representatives of some er some other unit with the mariupol garrison er azov for them were er for some reason uh, more interesting, that's why somehow during the interrogations, uh, they were treated a little worse, they asked more questions about the command and so on, maybe it's somehow connected with the fact that uh, we are portrayed as some kind of real criminals, and primarily among our own of the population, they asked a lot of provocative questions like that, you know. i mean, you know how the question is structured. no, did you see who shot the civilians? and why did you
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shoot at the civilians? that is, you understand that there is no possibility in the question itself. -he answered, well , i didn’t see it, or i didn’t do it, so why did you do it, but of course i didn’t see it, because for us, first of all, it was the defense of this city and it was in azovstalia. caring for those civilians who stayed there, it was a priority because i say i am worried about my friends. it was difficult to lose many of my friends. i understand that the war is not over yet, but the most difficult thing for me is the death of thousands of civilians who were in mariupol and in general throughout the country. they are trying to attach to us what what is what how ours is that we did something bad with civilians, they worry me because almost
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one hundred percent they will use it in this fake court of theirs vladyslav or your testimony about torture about the conditions of detention prisoners about the events in the surrounded mariupol, were they documented by international human rights organizations, be it the red cross or many international or some others? er, under conditions of detention and so on. and this was done in order to later hand this over to an international organization. it was our security service of ukraine . my comrades said, and i support it, then i did not see any representative of the red cross or any international organizations at all
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while i was in captivity. maybe they were in the first days because i was then unconscious, i cannot testify during this time because well, i well, i actually had a bad idea of ​​where i am and who surrounds me, to the point that i have certain vision problems, but now there is an information vacuum. that is, we are not interested in them now. i don't understand why, please representatives of the red cross. we saw when we evacuated our country. on the 17th, they entered us on the bus, they gave us postcards and asked what kind of home we had, who we wanted to warn there relatives and the state. we put the state there, who put in the relatives. the question sounded well, there were questions about our last name and patronymic in the year of birth and who we want to warn, there were zips or parents of relatives, and about the fact that we are being taken prisoner or our state, then they simply recorded the fact of your capture there, they applied
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of international organizations, they felt nothing like that happened vladyslav, please, and i will add , as i found out later, when he got into the territory under our control and found out that he had red flags that he was controlling our staying there, that is, he is there as a certificate that everything was fine with us there, but uh, neither the red cross nor any international organizations in general had access to the place where i was, so i don't understand how they can say anything about our conditions maintenance if they have no control, that is, they don't even have access there, the russian side does not allow the red cross to visit the prisoners of war, the people of volyn did not allow the red cross to enter the hospital where i was a prisoner of war, that's why, now i understand it, one of the most important reasons why i
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live like this for my friends it's that, er, i don't know what's there, and er, no one except the enemy knows, so if there is torture, hmm, international organizations can't confirm it, and they issue ours, but it's wrong, that is, they don't have to go there access, so they can't say that there is something there, normal conditions or good conditions, or, at all, are there any international agreements being implemented? thank you, please, next question , colleagues. for the sake of ukraine, it is a pity that what happened in mariupol in azovstal is now losing the main reason and you are being asked about dugin's daughter or some other things about which you cannot know anything. i am
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interested. let's say two questions specifically for the first time first of all, while you took part directly in the battles on the streets of mariupol, did you see with your own eyes the facts of the terror of the russians against the local civilian population, the shooting of civilians, the destruction of cars, the looting of apartments, something in this still, and the second question while you were in captivity in the hospital in the prison and directly in each of you can you count and testify how many brothers disappeared the next morning they were not there did not return from the interrogation or came back mutilated and crippled these are the most vivid facts possible thank you thank you for the question please vladyslava so i
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will answer you about the facts did i see with my own eyes how the enemy violated humanitarian law somehow there were any facts that the enemy harmed the civilian population i saw how the enemy burned the civilian civilians , the civilian population of people, in fact, you understand not by families, not by apartments, not by apartments, not even by houses. but by blocks, in my eyes, these were artillery shellings, as a result of which whole blocks of houses burned down, that is, if someone it's interesting, i'll provide a photo there later, er, there's something, something, what i filmed, well, from a height, what, what, i filmed, what, what happened in mariupol, that is, there are more burned-out houses, and you understand that, they were all burned , er, with the civilian population, and er do you list the cars or the fact of looting or something else? they themselves present these facts of looting. they
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take pictures in the apartments of ukrainian citizens. they display videos on the phones that they stole from the citizens and there are many photos . and video i say now i still i will provide it if there is a need for it . if you are interested in it. it is the fact that they killed in general thousands, as i said there in mariupol, tens of thousands of dead. imagine the number of these civilians of this civilian population - this is every person who died - this is a tragedy in general, but there people didn't just die there, people didn't just die there, they died as families, and because of that, i do n't understand how it is possible for some civilians from mariupol to say that they are very, very happy there, very happy about the liberation on the russian side, if there is such a number of dead people, that is, a resident of mariupol has, now
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, any resident of mariupol, everyone who is looking at me , everyone who is currently in the controlled territory is not in captivity, they, uh, absolutely everyone has a certain number of their own neighbors of friends from other areas who either died 100% and they know it or they disappeared and if you look at the photo what happened to the city, as i said, people simply burned together with their apartments together with their houses and neighbors all together eh and you understand all these people they just now disappeared to eat in fact also remember that the russian federation brought eh these mobile crematoria to mariupol so you understand those who went missing in mariupol they died this is a fact eh and you understand it is not possible to check a specific person taken there, but in general , all those who disappeared there are the dead, the dead, the civilian population
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. shot in mariupol about it. yes, we saw how their tanks came out and shot at the house. they thought that we were in that house. there was no one there . there will be no free people there, i witnessed a family run over and the russian soldiers put out their eyes with a machine gun and shot the child in the leg . it was so that you they took the boys and the boys sometimes didn't come back , er, i saw with my own eyes, they were taken from us by our sisters from our barracks, and two days later they just brought him, he was unable to walk, his ribs were broken, his legs were broken, there were
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many fractures, he had these, it was not difficult for me to eat it was worth looking at, they just wanted him to sign some kind of document about there to take away theirs, everyone, what did they not do, mariupol, russia like to dump this on us, but he did n't sign it. i don't know further thank you, dmytro, what can you say about all this for mariupol, there is nothing to say , there were thousands there. no, i don't know, hundreds were lying dead in the streets as a prisoner . somewhere there, i don’t know anything like that, i haven’t heard anything about mariupol. i know that there are many of those guys who landed, despite the fact
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that they served in mariupol for many years, before that they didn’t recognize him at all because the city was not like a city at all. i don’t know some room horror and everywhere it is not yet dead people everywhere children after a concussion damn well, in short, it was unpleasant for me to see what i saw, well, as for children, it is very, very bad. vladyslav, you have additions. yes, some. yes, i was adding a little for mariupol . with air bombs and looking at this house, it is clear that civilians may have been hiding there in the basement, but they are now buried alive there, but besides, the enemy side shot those civilians who tried to
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evacuate from the city to the side of the controlled in ukraine, that is, in the direction of zaporizhzhia, i have acquaintances who tried to go there twice, but they succeeded only on the third attempt, because they opened fire on the column, they opened fire from obvious places , that is, they are already civilians, what they should not know, they already knew, they already they knew where it was coming from, they could already distinguish the caliber, we are a peaceful country. in general, civilians in our country do not have to distinguish between this, they do not have to distinguish where a mine is, and where a grenade is not, it is not for them, but now they are forced to understand it, and they knew from which side in them shoot and imagine the columns of civilians who are generally with some wheelbarrows, such tailors, with some construction wheelbarrows with the remains of their belongings from burned apartments, trying to leave, to leave at least somewhere under fire, who do not stop at all, and therefore i cannot blame those
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people who left in the direction of rostov, because they were worried about surviving at all, you understand under such conditions, i think that some even civilians can lie on their testimony just to survive, because survival is under control the russian federation is possible only when you support this lie and it generally applies to their civilian population on their territory, etc. and for the facts of disappearance from captivity, i am very worried about a slightly different fact, as i already said , the moment of my wounding i, i was well, i received my second er serious injury the night before the evacuation for the zrostali, that is, actually there at the beginning of the first night, i was injured and er, my subordinate was in a safe place and he was clearly alive, i communicated with him on walkie-talkies immediately after his wounding but recently i found out that he is on the lists as a dead person and that is why i am
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very worried that he could have been either executed or tortured or even disappeared somewhere. well, we understand what this means on the side of the enemy because i do not understand when he managed to die if at that time there were actually no hostilities. he was in a safe place, but now he is like a dead person, that's why i, personally, the commander, am worried about him. i hope that everything is fine, but i have some good news about the deer and her about i haven't heard about the detention of our prisoners of war, so i'm preparing for the worst. thank you, you also forgive me that the situation in the deer park could have been created in order to, as a means of moral pressure on the other prisoners who remained, in order to, uh, knock out additional evidence from them, of course, of course, i assume for me this, well, you understand this, this is almost a fact, and besides, when i was still in the hospital, someone constantly told us about every week, er, that and you know that your side was fired at elenovke, your
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side hit elenovke, that is, we were told about it they lied, i got out of captivity, i found out that it was a lie, that it was disinformation from the enemy, but after a while they did it live , that is, i needed to be told that the deer was fired upon. the ukrainian troops were part of the pressure that we are so unnecessary that the deer is being fired upon then i already said it on other inter now, well, i’m just repeating, okay, thank you, friends, literally the last question, please. good afternoon, i’m anastasia chekalova, the waiting program windows stb, first of all , i want to thank you very much for your strength and resilience and my question is, what did you say, they said that you were completely cut off from the information
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you had? to this moral and physical pressure and pressure. thank you for the question, dmytro, let's prove the good. yes , thank you. well, first of all, faith in your country, faith in the armed forces and faith, faith in ukraine, because we are ukrainians, thank you denis, please help to stay there, well, just knowing russia that they are found to be lying and telling false information well, i simply do not believe them. i trusted our armed forces of ukraine if they
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maintain the defense of the country. and faith in our brothers. thank you, vladyslav, please speak for myself. i could not allow myself to trust the enemy at all, because during my stay, we only had internet from an old woman. i looked at what they wrote about mariupol and i did not see any true news. in other words, none of what they wrote was true, so it would be strange if i started to believe while actually in captivity. in captivity, i have been cut off from information since when i could not check how much they were there. whether they are telling the truth or not , then of course i i treated their words as obvious lies, and it justified itself, really, they only lied about what i saw, which gave me some strength and peace. i understood that i did everything i could and will do everything i can
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with this, so i call on everyone who at all hmm somehow not restless about the war in ukraine, to put it mildly , uh, do what you can, then you'll sleep calm down , that is, find something in which you can be useful , uh, give your full voice and then you'll sleep well and in general, you will help the common cause a lot you understand that ukraine is not just holding on anymore ukraine will obviously win because their special operation that was planned there for a week or two has been going on for six months, we have already won in fact ah help speed up speed up this victory i am often asked how much how much it can still go on when it ends and when we finish then it will end we just have to do what we can do thank you friends last question from kyivpost and we will finish with this please ask your question we
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already see you you can talk unfortunately we do not hear greetings glory to ukraine thank you for your patience, i have a short question. my name is roman rebek, i am under international protection, and i would like to ask a question about whether the information you had was true and where you were. stayed for more than six months, and at the time when you were waging battles, you also seized weapons from the opponents of the russian fascists, and you had the opportunity to stay there for another six months . why are they asking because there is information that you were simply deceived and taken prisoner in exchange for e-e for the grain
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of transnational corporations is possible yes exotic question please vladyslav yes indeed the question is a little exotic i will answer the first e-e with the permission of my brothers because i was in positions until the night when e-e well on the last night of the defense, er, regarding weapons, er, this is what we needed first of all, as i am often asked, what did you lack there on

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