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the first of them somewhere near the wall for me, the right bank of the dnieper is an ideal place, but for this you need a serious military commander who can carry out this operation. are such conclusions not too exaggerated in view of the importance of this or that region of your assessment, or the importance of the battle for the kherson region, it is quite important. i think from a moral point of view, because it in fact, one a-a regional city that was captured on the 24th, the regional center, on february 24th, they already started building the kherson people's republic there, they are preparing to make the referent, they captured the administrative borders and from my point of view, they knocked out this bridgehead if you look at the map and this bridgehead - this the only place where they
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are located is only on the right side of the dnieper, everything else is on the left, and if they are knocked out there , it will also be a strong blow in the eyes of the world community that ukraine has repelled the south and part of it half a day ago, it liberated its territory and inflicted, let's say, a defeat on the russian federation. for this, you need to take a few steps there in addition to the accumulation of equipment. but if this is done, it will really be a blow to the russian federation, not only military, but also from the point of view of their international opposition. at the end of our conversation, i would like to ask such a general question what does the victory of the return of all
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the territories of ukraine, which were recorded in our constitution, mean to you? this is a victory for me. if i said earlier, let's start by february 24 and then we will talk, and i now see that that russia is already using terrorist tactics against us. yes, they are already starting to simply destroy the ukrainian people, and we must understand that for us the national idea is for the coming years, and i am sure that this will not end in a year, even they will try to come to some agreements now leave something for us, give something, trade , but the national idea for us is the return of all territories, and we must understand that there will be little diplomacy in this, it is a war, a war, a war. the russian federation conducts its diplomacy not only from a position of strength, and we as ladies are a civilized people who want to live with democracy wants to live in a civil
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society, but we must respond to russia with the methods it uses for us and must understand that for us the future is the rebuilding of a strong army, the construction of a strong special service must be hardened with a society that will understand that it will live in the coming years in conditions of war or in conditions of the threat of war, and we must build this society in this way, and this applies to the entire defense-industrial complex, even our economy, our cultural life, and now everyone must do this accept no matter what anyone says, someone may be waiting for victory quickly, there may only be a truce, but this truce may be imposed on russia in order to take a breath and move on, we must live for the final victory when all our lands will return to us and we will have the strength to defend them in the future. thank you for this important conversation, and i will remind our viewers that this was
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a real defender of ukraine and people's deputy of the sbu, colonel roman kostenko. congratulations after six months of telling how everything is going according to plan and there is nothing russian the common man should worry now, russian propaganda has swung to the other extreme, now they are telling what the move is. saboteurs and terrorists, look what day the curve is fun , then there is nothing but flying, then here they are flying, yes, they are recovering. system, we can say, monitoring our enemies for something more serious, without pilots, what
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are you talking about, spy drones don’t fly with ukraine, they don’t fly there in crimea, that is. already in moscow, well, everyone probably heard about the murder of the daughter of such a well, i don’t know the ideologue of the russian world duyen, about whom, in fact, well, in ukraine it is not as widely known as they think in russia . so formed narrative that it is usually the ukrainian special services, even more than the ukrainian special services, there is already a whole legend there in general. so, watch it directly on the air, this is russia alone, they are telling such and such a fantasy and such a terrorist act that resulted in the death of darya , this is a joint military operation unfortunately, unfortunately, it was successful three
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special services. the independence day of ukraine, the title of the hero of ukraine , as well as the highest award of ukraine, is presented to a group of operatives who prepared this action, developed it, and how quickly the russians found the killers . the murder is still not solved well, that is, how are the perpetrators found? but there are still no customers, and here they already know everything in advance, well, that is, it is still a strange situation, but even the question is not in this, you know, uh, blows
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in crimea, they really broke it for the russians. i advised that this is not a war, a special operation, and so on. what a terrible picture there is on tv and uh, avf in general. peaceful country, this has already ended in russian propaganda, and now russian propagandists in this crisis are slipping to the level of their own competence. so i think the only known cat to russians is the chechen wars in the 90s, if you look at the ministry of defense, they constantly come up with some fictions that they invented back in the chechen war, and now the russian propane is trying to reproduce the media a picture of the second chechen war, for example, you see this is the last program, the same talk show on ntv. the meeting place where they drew a direct parallel, and this is not happening in the same place, well, you know, they seem to remember that putin was young then, everything around was somehow they managed to do everything there, and now, well, everything could be there, including
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terrorist attacks to mobilize the population and blow up a little-known propagandist . more serious there, such as the explosions of residential buildings , then in the suburbs of moscow, which took place there at the beginning of putin's presidency. well, these are direct, such as chechnya are already being broadcast on russian television, and so you know, the population hints that it is something the same, but at least this is what happens but listen to the successes of the russian military, on the one hand, they were presented word for word, as they are now being presented in ukraine, civilians are being brutally bombed, progress is very slow, the text of these non-prejudiced stories could at least appear on the british airwaves tomorrow in connection with the events in ukraine, and no one would have noticed the subterfuge of the russian military, they accuse vagal
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cruelty . in principle, it is also mentioned. the same topic is passed there, at least 5 people, and it depends on the age of the grandmother, there is the grandfather, the youth, the program of the archaechka, and now people sent squads, so she once pressed the button, the coordinate reset it he flew in, people went to get russian passports there , he flew into his head, they caught him. well, further on, we’ll put him there, i won’t understand. well, it’s all ego, my goal. well, by the way, this is also such an active narrative that the russians are promoting not only in russia themselves, but also
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abroad, about what literally all the civilians who were destroyed by the russian army are some correctors, of course, absolutely dog ​​shit but none the less, it is well, er, i think that this is some kind of intimidation of the own population, this is some kind of new turn in russian propaganda er-er hmm i would like to discuss this with denys bosch - he is a political technologist, an expert in the field of strategic communications. hello denys. what do you think of this impression of mine, what are your impressions now of these recent events, because it is obvious that this uh, well , the murder of a little-known real girl who even in russia, few people know. now they are trying to stir up some kind of er, well, a huge kind of this. well, i don't quite understand what even the fsb would do or not. but nevertheless, the very desire - to use it - is, well, some kind of incitement. how about you?
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do you think how are all these things interconnected? well, look at uh, in general, uh, all the propaganda of russia, and if you see a talk show, they uh, at a certain such a high degree, that is, they discuss it restlessly , they discuss it with emotions, with hatred, directly from with the intention of beating with such well, let's say very, very strong emotions and that's why they discuss everything like that and when they kill someone in moscow, they don't know who it is, they need to figure it out somehow, then they come up with anything with the same hatred in order to uh, well, somehow solve it questions and all this propaganda is based on certain ideas, they haven't changed, they haven't
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changed already, i think for eight years, strategic tactics are constantly changing, but strategic ones, putin is always right, russia is always right, well, the enemy is all around us, and we have a strong army, that is, that's all not is changing and they are teaching people that everything that is happening is all done by the enemies around russia and that they found this natalya vovk in two days and they said that she killed as she was beaten, that she is isolated there and so on. well, that's all the details, er, well even i think the russians don't really trust the part because the other russians said who killed who and took responsibility for it, so let's say the organization of the national republican
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army of russia and they declared that they did it and about it said ilya ponomaryev, not the whole world, and by the way, i went to their telegram channel ros partizan and there i see that they do a lot of different things, that is, they blow up some tracks in different regions of russia, they make some fires and they describe it to their there are a lot of telegram channels, by the way such things that we didn't understand. who is doing this ? why is it there, in the far east ? who is undermining it, where does it come from, and it turns out that there are people who have united and are already fighting against putin? well, regardless of what is there uh, fsb information, well, they are knocking, well, the population. that is, there is
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some part that, well, is actually fighting. and it does make rails, and it is. well, this is a normal topic for us , because after such a terrible war that russia started, how many deaths, 45,000 only were killed in which we we know where 150,000 wounded are. that is, well, if well, the scale of this disaster, let's say, for russia to see, it's clear that some groups there should have started doing something simply. she, uh, this russia, she's going through a serious moment right now. well, that's what they are. in this way, they hide the resistance inside russia, it's also it might be an interesting option , but you know what else i'm interested in, well, again, on the same russian tv show, marko said, in which, by the way, there were no
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tv channels on the air for a long time, but suddenly he was pulled out to say such a thing literally for this here synchronously, he was pulled out of nothingness, but look at this district of the rublev highway, the minsk highway, where, eh , 33 km to the kremlin, there are many enough people, so to speak, who live like that, who work for the head of the corporation, eh, the head of the corporation, the head of the leading russian eh means of information, i'm sure that they were forced to bring everyone to a security meeting yesterday for such a day in order to check how to make sure that their cars are not mined the world is better, because we have big bosses, they are under protection, but seven of them are under protection
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. well, notice what it is. i looked, for example , dmitry medvedev, who always comments on everything so vividly, i didn’t even express sympathy, well, i mean, of course, i can ignore that he is far away constipation already happens to him, but he didn't say a word, while for example, dugin literally wrote such a programmatic text on the day of this terrorist attack. where did he say that you can't go on like 6 months ago, that you have to go? to the end what is it? something needs to be changed urgently that the regime of maximum comfort has ended eh well, and about the fact that at the beginning of autumn it is necessary to move the country some other cosmetic rails eh means the changes are already inappropriate no one needs it means elections there you can not do what you did before and what
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is the most important thing he said from all of this? what, uh, i can understand that the government is used to ruling as it has become more or less effective for 22 years, but this period in the past, that is, who is he talking about, and now it is more important than its power subjective measure old regime let him bury his dead наступет новая русское времение he wrote this almost on the day of this terrorist attack and here the terrorist attack of the new er-e origins of hysteria all these eyes are the most hysterical er-e solovyov there skabeev simonyan they all immediately pick up they start shouting that let's do something and you know, you probably also heard this story about the possibility that this is a planned terrorist attack in order to strengthen this party of the so
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-called war for some more radical actions and for in order not to allow putin to make concessions under any circumstances. to what extent do you think this version can be realistic? this is already a question for their prosecutor's office and authorities, because i can say that in addition to the fact that it could have been such an action for for example, to start working in kyiv or to start bombing ukraine more, let's say, civilian infrastructure objects and so that they have a clear conscience that they are somehow taking revenge for what, but i simply think that first of all dugin and the general public did not know it was him was in such narrow ones poloh will find well-known people who were interested in the russian world and this philosophy that they
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raised there, that is, dugin is not such a figure for the general public, but for the propagandists he was. yes, he was one of the propagandists who gave them such basic things by the way, could there be a version that this is an instinivka, a staging of the death of dugin's daughter in order to, for example, give her a new life on the move under a different passport and with a different, uh, citizen. that is, it is like this. well, there can also be a theory, and well, such an option, but uh i think that's just it the beginning of such showdowns inside russia and this is very important for us because how we wanted this situation is already, well, it is no longer important, it is important that they have conflict lines, conflict lines between the government and the people, and a conflict line between the elite, which
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at the authorities and the opposition, and the conflict lines between the towers of the kremlin, between the fsb and the game. in other words, there are a lot of such conflict lines, which have now intensified and when russia will fall apart, there will be terrorist attacks along all these lines. in other words, just one story, we need our own to do defend to win back our territories and in a different way in we are waiting how is it there they are well you spider banks uh there and they will kill themselves and it just started and i'm just saying that well the first swallows will be worse and there are a lot of them such people who, for example, between kadyrov and
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the central government, that is, there are a lot of such conflict lines, and they will not be investigated quickly, because they will not know how it will be negative. and by the way, when nimtsov was killed, he was generally killed near the kremlin that is, there is still no one on the bridge. it is not known what it was. by the way, there were a lot of movies there where nemtsov was killed. well, tv cameras, yes. well, in the sense of what kind of cameras and surveillance that suddenly turned out to be disabled here, too , this is the story of roblovka. it would seem like a very cool place there. the vip parking lot is also not working, the camera is also not working, but it was found here. literally in two days, look at what they say that they are not working. this does not mean that they were not working. okay , they probably looked at the picture, which is an explanation
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for the narrative, this picture does not fit that what it is it was done by a woman, well, with a child, well, yes, yes, well, there may be a group of comrades who drove up there in a gelendwagen, there and something else, and there they shot, or did something there, that is, this picture is simply different, that's why they say that they are disconnected and they are not can be disconnected any there any any on this that it is any there near the kremlin, that is, because there are different cameras of different departments, that is, different departments have their own cameras, it’s clear that everything is controlled by the fsb, but well, there can be different cameras and that’s why there well, nothing at all worked. that doesn't happen. well, look, now they want to uh, even drag this whole story to the un and try to present the situation in such a way
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that ukraine is engaged in terrorism, that is, they, well, the russians understand that everything is going to the point that russia, after everything that she didn't do can be declared a sponsor of terrorism in order to break this attitude that is starting to spread in the world, they are organizing shelling of the zaporizhia ss, they are organizing some kind of riot in zaporizhzhia, in parallel, they are pushing this entire history and i wonder how well this will come out of them and what, well, how should we react to it ? look, there are two categories of rights in international law: aggression and terrorism, and the aggression unleashed by russia and this aggression that killed there are a lot of civilians there, it wiped out entire cities from the face of the earth, it is much stronger than
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terrorism, terrorism is some group that commits some targeted terrorist attacks in one city, and so on, but if you look at bucha mariupol, if you look there well, those cities in the east ukraine here, well, there, in kharkiv, in the districts of chernihiv, what was happening, and what was happening in mykolaiv , uh, there, houses were completely destroyed and civilians were killed. that is, it is stronger than any activism and this aggression, and it is ukraine that will serve and sues precisely for aggression, the fact that the country is a sponsor of terrorism is, well, this story is simply also, well, such an international,
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well, international category in international law and in the practice of america - this is such a category for which there is strengthening of the sledge and aggression plus the sponsor of terrorism - these are very serious crimes committed by russia, and that is why no terrorist attack on a girl who was killed somewhere in moscow can solve the whole nightmare that they have already done today, simply according to international law and people in the world. they understand what it is to kill and kill civilians and the murder, well, in a terrorist attack, yes, it can be. they are somehow trying to raise the level of horror there. what a person, but it’s just that when the un talks about , well, 12-year-old girls who were raped there and then killed, set on fire, then tanks ran over them
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that's shocking, well, it's just tens of times more in buch than the fact that some propagandist's girl was killed in some kind of car, uh, there, well, in this rublovsk district, right now, well, i already said at the beginning, i think that they uh, uh, they're just shocked by the fact that these explosions took place in the crimea was so strong for them that they simply fell to the level of what they know very well, that's why they pulled out some chechen soldier and started twisting him because it's just familiar to them, for them it was understandable and such a narrative and uh how much it can work for the mobilization of russian population because this is a repeat of one to one in the year 2000 , but now they are trying, i see, they are trying to do this. so what happened then was chechen terrorism, we are mobilizing, the second chechen war and the whole thing and we all have to somehow go there now they are also trying to do the same
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to present in relation to ukraine how effective it can be in general, look here , sociology in russia answers this question and we can say that 80, approximately 80% of the population of russia supports all actions and this is mobilization, i.e. people support what makes them the president and yes 60-70% support the e-e special operation. but they don't want to go to the war for mobilization, somewhere around 50%. and they want to send for mobilization only the older generation, and the youth who can go, so it is precisely this youth who
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does not want to go, and that is why it is going as it is going. oh well, support is affected by the lack of victories , that is, actually, yes, they also say everything about this, that we need something immediately, some kind of positive, well, them need yes, they need to seize kyiv from them yes yes, they need what they can give thank you we have run out of time thank you very much this was denys bogush political technologist e.e. expert in the field of strategic communications well, here is actually such a summary e.e. for the time being, we will watch. but they have such a desire to somehow arrange a new one around terrorist, subversive, and so on. well, so far, not so much. it seems to me that it will work out for them today. we will see each other today.
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