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you mentioned the organization of the united nations, mr. not oleksandr, why do i actually want to return to the un because, er, we remember how in 1991, when the soviet union collapsed, russia declared itself the legal successor of the soviet union, and in this way it was er- boris yeltsin's letter to the united nations in order for the un to recognize russia as the legal successor of the soviet union with the corresponding positions, i.e. in the security council and in general in the un, the founders of the un were the ukrainian ssr separately and, accordingly, ukraine received the local un and the belarusian ssr also received the place of the un, the procedure is necessarily the procedure for the accession of the new independent state of the russian federation, which it became in 1991, moscow did not pass, and
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in principle, in principle, due to the fact that russia has a place in the red security, it does not have the right to veto all decisions of the security council, that is, the highest bodies of the united nations. can we, against the background of what is happening in ukraine against the background of the large-scale war of aggression of the russian federation, still initiate the deprivation of russia of all rights in the united nations or the world is afraid of russia's nuclear club and what serhii shoigu, the minister of defense of the russian federation, said just a few days ago that we are such a great power, a nuclear power, and now no one will give up on us because, well, where are we to be divided, why the rights of the country terrorists are not limited in the organization of the
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united nations and, in particular, in the un security council, well, of course, if you ask the question, should we do this in order to throw russia out of the illegally held seat of a permanent member of the security council, yes or not we will be able to do it, i have my doubts. actually, the factor of nuclear weapons is one of the elements, but not only there are also such psychological factors , the fact is that after the collapse of the soviet union, the west was so uplifted that there is no such main enemy who ideologically gathered to destroy the entire free world, and therefore russia should be encouraged in every possible way to integrate into the civilized international society, actually this was the reason why er poor laptev russia was accepted into the group of seven and became er well and they are wrongly called the big seven, that is, the group of seven became two eights and
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aid was also provided to russia from the point of view of the fact that they thought that it would become a normal democratic state and from the point of view that it was necessary to reduce the actual danger primarily nuclear, but then you remember that there was still a large amount of bacteriological and chemical weapons, and in other types of weapons, exactly these considerations. they are still there again . bush the elder was in the ukrainian parliament when he called on the ukrainians not to let these demons of nationalism out that could destroy something there, because he did not want another independent state to appear that possessed the third largest nuclear potential, and now, uh, about russia. the same considerations in the worst nightmare of the american military or the european military, this is the collapse of russia, because such
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scum like kadyrov or someone else can get weapons and will definitely be able to threaten not only to its neighbors in the federation, and actually to the whole world, this is actually the way of thinking. it did not happen anywhere without a word , and there are also false opinions that russia is capable of being a democratic state. you and i, and our baltic neighbors, poland, romania, understand very well that russia is within these borders. by this political elite and with this pleps that the council supports aggression against the neighbors i am not talking about the poor living conditions , the lack of freedom in which they have been living for 20 years, of course we have no doubts that russia cannot be a legal democratic a liberal or some such state, therefore, of course, such, shall we say, ms. m-m thinking, as shall we say, blocs, and they do not give opportunities to our western friends the further they are from the russian border, and
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the less i do not understand what modern russia is, and they cherish this hope that there is some e a different russia , a democratic russia, which can take power and become part of this civilized society, actually these are the key reasons for fear and hope that russia can be different, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel as well on our platforms on youtube and facebook if you are watching us live now on youtube or on facebook, please like our video subscribe to our channels well and follow our news on other social networks in telegram on instagram and also on various platforms where we give you complete and reliable information about what is happening in ukraine, read it on our website espresso tv, oleksandr, and it is clear that in
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this story, which the russian federation is spreading now, about the unreliability or the threat of the ukrainian threats to the whole world, the following question arises: is it possible at all, what kind of negotiations are possible between ukraine and russia, because last week zelenskyi guterres and erdogan met, and the president of turkey said that he would very much like zelenskyi and putin to meet in particular or to turkey, he has already been repeating this thesis for several months, constantly flies to putin in sochi, talks with him about something, tries to agree on something there, zelensky says that if there is this court over the azov people, of course there will be no negotiations with the russian federation , and the russian federation says that there were certain agreements as of april 2022.
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now we have already gone far from this, the longer the war lasts, then there can be no negotiations, what do you think, are they possible at all any negotiations , diplomatic negotiations between ukraine and russia in the current one, have we already crossed that red line, uh, beyond which both one country and another country only need victory in this war? well, you know on the one hand, for sure, that russia will not go anywhere someday we will have to settle our relations with the russian federation through diplomatic means and probably by signing some documents, but unfortunately for now i don't see any room for diplomacy in general i absolutely i think that the majority of ukrainian citizens are extremely grateful to mrs. deran and turkey for what he is doing and he is doing this is not
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only for his own interests, but also in principle he is quite positive towards ukraine, a number of steps this confirms, and most importantly, that president zelenskyi said that there cannot be any negotiations, if this is not the case, there will not be negotiations on the ceasefire, but the return of all territories , including crimea, crimea is a key point, despite the fact that i, as a dane , have been leading us because now my native place has been occupied for eight years, if she is on and so on, but i believe that the first and most important thing is that we have to return crimea and this is not a question of international law or the restoration of the rights of the crimean tatar karaite and crimean peoples of the leading peoples of ukraine. this is a question the survival of ukraine, because the actual military base on the territory of crimea is a constant threat to ukraine , the entire black sea region, and also further beyond
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it, since there was no crimea, there would be no syria, there would be no libya and so on, so crimea is a matter of principle if the negotiations do not touch it they cannot lead to any peace agreement there or anything, they can cease fire. this is the only thing we can count on, but taking into account the news from the fronts, especially the fact that our defense forces are quite successful in destroying enemy pocket centers munitions, infrastructure, and lately they have been wreaking havoc on the fascists in crimea, i don't think it is in the interests of ukraine to stop such things, this is not a large-scale offensive. since you really said correctly, the russians will use this for regrouping. for additional covert mobilization, these women are threatening to actually continue this war, so in the future,
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diplomacy will be able to decide with let's say that we should fix our relations with the russian federation, but no, now there are no such grounds, taking into account public and non-public statements and what the russians are doing on the 16th, there was a 10th conference, the moscow security conference, where both putin and shuiva spoke, actually according to their rhetoric, i don't i didn’t see any intentions, let’s say so. this is madness. i’m not talking about the name, of course we didn’t want a war, even for the russians it’s madness because they are by and large on the stage of destroying their own state and i’m not talking about the fact that it is a rogue state decades ago in economic terms was rejected, i am talking about the fact that this fascist state essentially has no future, but they still have certain resources, i don’t know for a few years, but the fact that it is running on the nation itself
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this is absolutely uh, it’s obvious, that’s how they told us there that february 24, 2022 was the date of the end of the hegemony of the united states , that is, they are still fighting against the united states and the hegemony of the united states. and here on the territory of ukraine with ukrainians and not just with ukrainians, because of course there is no such nation, there is no such state, these are fictions , lenin was revealed, not the austro-hungarian general staff, that is exactly why these genocidal calls are why these attacks on cities are why the continued accumulation of power means for waging this war, they simply show that in russia they absolutely do not perceive well that is, they do not see the need to end this war, a pause is possible, but for now, putin at least here, even here, he gives that he is fine and that he is going to complete this special military operation, as planned by the
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sometimes the baltic countries of the czech republic, the czech republic and poland are in favor of a ban on visas for russians, especially tourists, finland has sharply reduced their issuance, and already today the lithuanian foreign ministry announced that the baltic countries of poland and finland may ban the entry of russian tourists, that is, schengen visas will not work even if the eu will not be able to agree on a general eu ban, and meanwhile the us does not plan to ban visas for russians. they said that after russia started a large-scale war from february 24 already closed entry to the united states of america to approximately 5,000 people who are somehow involved in russia's attack on ukraine and this work will continue as a ban on russians e-e from entering
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on tourist visas to well at least the baltic countries of the czech republic poland and finland as will this affect the russians themselves, or the situation inside the country, will they understand that their russian aircraft carrier, headed by putin, is already going to the bottom, and they don't want to see it in the civilized world, so they are forbidden to move towards the european union well, you know, in the last few days, there have been huge queues of russians who want to leave for finland. well, by and large, it should be said that there has been a ban on the flight of russian planes through european airspace, so there is no way for them to escape i mean, russians can go to any country in europe, they have an opportunity exclusively with neighboring states, and with which they certainly do not have the best
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relations now, and in terms of how this will affect, on the one hand, of course, there are a certain number of people well, it's not popular in our country - it's uh, talking about good russians there or some kind of liberal position. but let there be such people there and they don't speak out against this regime and they don't feel very uncomfortable resting in a country that is increasingly similar on the gulag than there is some victorious victor and the state as its future, of course they will suffer, and of course a certain number will suffer, well , even those who can and support him, but there are representatives of the middle class who have some funds, but the majority of russians well especially if they do not live there in this european part of russia, it is certain that they did not have the opportunity to travel around the world before, taking into account the distance , taking into account the begging that is widespread in this seemingly, well, from the point of view of numbers, the most prosperous
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country in the world, but i think that this will not lead to some kind of revolutionary actions, uh, because by and large , russia, well, you know. for me, the word interview was so far, i don't remember now what this woman's name is , she heads this union of soldiers' mothers, which, in principle, i remember how they worked against of the soviet system, when the war in afghanistan began in 1979-1980, then the first chechen war , and now this is how she talked about the fact that the mothers and wives of modern russian soldiers who are fighting in ukraine, they are afraid to go even to a military unit and write a statement or ask what they mean there is a son or a husband, and therefore , in this sense, putin actually managed to create such a biomass from russians, i understand that they were not quite disliked by the peoples as such
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to apply such a definition, so now they are actually atomized biological entities that are not able to protect even the most precious thing that they have their own children, and therefore it is useless to hope that some millions or hundreds of thousands will go out into the streets. we have not seen millions or hundreds thousand when this war began, it is senseless for russians, first of all, and now it is about this opportunity to travel to europe. well, i am absolutely not in. i think that other things can shake the russian federation, it is not putin's ability to hold by force bayonets, these suburbs and most importantly those republics that are contributors to the general russian budget or money with which they can buy loyalty, well, first of all, let's take a look at chechnya, which is actually holding all other russians hostage and receives too many resources, that is, i
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think these are the most important things these contradictions between the regions, the impossibility of living even at a minimum level, i mean begging there, the impossibility of access to some such basic goods in the russian federation, this will be read and in no way it is possible to be in a whole world, you really said correctly that they don't want to be seen there by president ilves, well, the former president of estonia said that. look, they went crazy instead of behaving quietly and not violently. they started, as it were, especially when the monuments were dismantled the tank itself, and they began to behave inappropriately, and that is precisely why they simply showed that they are not normal citizens and part of the society in which they have been living for 30 years, not to mention the actual threat from the point of view of national security, all these guys like him, i don't remember the last names of these two killers of violinists. they have the opportunity, so of course it
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will be absolutely right for them to live there, and somehow you think maybe it will reach them, but well, in principle, it is primarily to protect the europeans from the russian peace. well, one of the leaders of the russian peace is our neighbors belarus. lukashenko, as he said, is not going to bomb ukraine from belarus. don't think that i'm planning some kind of attack here, we're going to bomb ukraine on the territory of belarus and so on. i don't have any desire for your and my children to fight. in the name of what we need to calm down. no ukraine is at war with russia today, the entire nato bloc and america are at war first
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only oleksandr lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president of belarus, constantly talks about this thesis and repeats that it is an entire bloc at war. and do the belarusians themselves understand why i am actually asking this because all the sanctions regarding visas regarding economic sanctions, in principle, they apply to russia for the most part. there is a sanctions list to which belarus was included after the elections of the so-called elections in 2020, and yet, should belarus and belarusians feel that they are also outcasts in the world because they are partners of vladimir putin and the russian army precisely since february 24, 2022, when russian tanks advanced from
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the territory of belarus, and belarus is a participant in this war, from the point of view of international law, even if not a single belarusian soldier i crossed the border, but from the territory of belarus, a third state carried out aggression, these are actually acts of aggression, so belarusians bear the same responsibility . a little bit on those who are for the russian world, fight already those who are for us, because there are definitely those who are fighting together with the ukrainian armed forces and those who are in european countries and are conducting some kind of political actions they are trying to support ukraine and fight against lukashenka's regime, and that's why i would definitely like such a division to be like this, but in general,
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i think it would be right, since they saw belarus and russia as military and political allies in the same way even before 2014, e- a threat to its security because these were not countries of western democracy, because of course these countries profess democracy. this means that we are changing the government, which did not happen in belarus in general . in belarus, no one has been seen on the throne except for lukashenka, and that's why we don't have to pay attention to this smoky father and the demagoguery he talks about, but we have to put pressure on this regime. and the previous one, this is not how we made it possible to get out of belarus under attack, do you remember when we agreed on the minsk platform for victory with the russian federation? and everyone forgot that lukashenka is the last dictator of europe and actually tried even to somehow communicate with him. another issue is that
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after that there were these pseudo-elections and he seized the illegal government and then there were sanctions introduced. but by and large, ukraine hid it , helped them in a certain way, and then we practically supported this regime because we traded and even with the russian federation through the territory of belarus, and we actually used the transit capacity of belarus in order to buy russian diesel, in fact, for petroleum products in including for our armed forces, but still it happened and in this way we indirectly supported this regime and unfortunately, we did not, i mean, the ukrainian authorities did not clearly condemn these elections , their so-called results, and did not clearly side with the opposition. i do not i'm talking about tikhonovo. but there are a large number of other people there as well. because you can find there to disagree with all certain views or the ability to be a leader of a
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united position, but there is, or i was, a necessary carrier of the need to support the belarusians who they see belarus as a part of the free world and not the russian peace, by the way, regarding belarus as an independent state, as a state, and the architecture of the world as belarus and ukraine, they say that this is our sphere of responsibility, in general, the sphere of influence, and something will say that these are absurd ideas, absolutely absurd ideas, but we see that putin is trying to implement these absolutely absurd ideas, and when i saw lukashenka coming out and talking about the fact that i am not going to attack ukraine, then a completely logical question arises. still controls the republic of belarus, or does such a republic no longer exist? well, i think that, uh, it’s just that at the moment it’s not profitable for putin to play with some
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re-elections or the provisional government and so on, that’s why he keeps him in high regard, uh, all this time, belarus held on more precisely, the lukashenka regime held on to the russian energy sector because they simply re-exported and actually these oil and gas dollars they started to decrease when the russians started this so-called tax maneuver it was still quite a long time that is, it is not the 22nd year but in fact, then his power was shaken and this belarusian soviet miracle turned out to be simply eh . he was a breadwinner, eh, in fact, on russian resources, but actually now he is holding on exclusively to russian bayonets, and therefore i am not sure that he can prohibit or allow something to be done there. saw actually because his territory was used as a bridgehead for striking and carrying out aggression against our country, that is why i am absolutely sure that he is nominally reporting to
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the presidents of a-a in belarus and actually to him there is no room for maneuver after he drowned in the blood of his citizens, that is, after the so-called elections, and therefore he has no opportunity to communicate with europeans and somehow balance what to maneuver between russia and the civilized world, so i do not think that such an opportunity is possible but the most important thing what we have to remember is that ukraine will not be safe, and indeed the entire european continent, until belarus is not part of the free world, in fact, if we look at that blow that you chernihiv and kyiv, and this is an absolutely clear, clear argument that without a democratic belarus, ukraine, which is a part of the civilized world, will be constantly in danger. see to our country and actually support the opposition
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forces against this illegal pseudo-president. well , at the end of our program, i will ask you about the new kyiv initiative. that's what it's called, the kyiv initiative, it's a format for discussing challenges in the field of the security of ukraine, lithuania, latvia, estonia, poland, romania, slovakia and hungary , the head of the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yermak, said yesterday about the creation of such a format, and the main task of this kyiv initiative is the issue of security. please tell me what you think about this initiative . to form some kind of new security system in ukraine well, you know, there will be new security very often from the office of the president, they say that it is impossible to create it, because it is certain that our adversaries have a nuclear the state and so far unfortunately, we have not won, only after we celebrate our victory
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will we have a chance for some kind of formation there, world security is ganged up on which international institutions, first of all, the un and there is the security council and there is the russian federation. therefore, until we kick out the russian federation, nothing will change from there, but there are also regional formats, and above all, it is nato , that is, for us. or uh, and uh, it means that such an agreement was quickly made with the united states, a nuclear power that would guarantee our protection, including the use of nuclear weapons, so all these initiatives do not exist in such key problems, but i support them in another dimension our neighbors and we saw this in the 14th year and after february 24, 22nd , our neighbors turned out to be an extremely important
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factor in our security. it is through the territory of poland that the largest aid goes to the safe village of the world, these are small in size, but their size is among the hearts of the baltic states support us and of course that our cooperation and integration of the societies as well are fundamental things. on your day independence day this was the verdict program about serhiy rudenko i say goodbye to you until tomorrow until 20:00 i will have roman bezsmertny as a guest goodbye some creatures they are hunting for washing machines and we are from ukraine and
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through the glitter of swords and smoke and death, blood until the resurrection of our free nation, let it accept you under its protection happy national flag day of ukraine 2 p.m. in ukraine time of news on tv channel espresso welcome to the studio of iryna koval and among the most relevant events at the moment, the first guests to kyiv were the president of poland andrzej duda
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