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dry, but it turned out to be much less, now he is imprisoning the people who made them because he was not told the real truth about their weapons , which we fight and fight successfully, so that a corrupt dictatorship always loses to strong democracies if we were a really strong democracy and not just a democracy, firstly, putin would not have dared to attack, he would have realized it himself , secondly, there would have been fewer victims and we would have fought very effectively and strongly, but we would have fought more effectively, and therefore our task is to build this a strong democracy, it is very important that the ukrainian government understands this, because in a strong democracy there is a strong state and strong institutions, a strong army, a strong people, there is no corruption, everything is for victory and everyone unites for the sake of this victory, the power is the opposition in this and the essence of a strong democracy democracy can lead to power just right autocrats and dictators, and don't you see in us serious threats that are not
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situational in our structure, the state that has now been formed, well, on the one hand, the war cannot be criticized very much, on the other hand, well, in fact we have a de facto parliamentary-presidential form, are there no threats to us? while you are fighting for democratic values , there are always threats to lose this democracy. choose it and it will always exist, as for freedom of speech, which is one of the signs of democracy, people fight even in the most democratic countries, such as the united states of america or european countries. there are journalists everywhere. there are authorities everywhere who try to limit them. defend freedom of speech, go to court and win, prove their right - this happens everywhere, even in the most democratic country, or the essence of democracy is in the constant struggle for freedom, we are at the beginning of this process, so the threats are greater for us, but when our people saw that something
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is threatening democracy, it means that it is in danger independence has always come out and will come out again if there is a threat to the fact that we will become an undemocratic country. i personally do not believe. and you knew that there would be a war, so you understood that it would happen at your age i did not believe that there would be such a war in my lifetime, but i knew about it since the time when western intelligence began to talk about it and when there were direct facts that russia, under the guise of training, is withdrawing troops to belarus and to the borders of ukraine, it is obvious to me that if a gun hangs on the wall in the first act of the theater performance, it will shoot in the second, everything happens for a reason, if the russians raise troops, it means they will go to war, a year before the war, i understood that there would be a war for me now facebook reminds us in this studio we talked about it with antin borkovsky and the guests on friday about the possibility of the reality of a
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full-scale invasion already when there were these reports from the west development do you think we could minimize losses somehow reduce this negative effect we could if we developed our own army already after the 19th year and we stopped doing it and actually in the industrial complex, if all our glorious rockets and anti-tank installations , we still produced all these neptunes, and we actually produced them until the 19th year and then in fact there was no funding for this, if we, realizing that there was going to be a war, mobilized earlier to protect the south and north of ukraine, the situation would have been different, but the young people cannot help but make mistakes, these are natural mistakes, especially when this young people came out from under such a great colonial goethe. i can't help but ask you about the language, because you are one of the authors and the initiator
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of this law, on the one hand, it is nonsense that there should be some separate law in the country that protects the state language, and on the other hand, constant speculation again, myths about the fact that the language is out of time and don't touch the language, i'm watching it now. people there from my village, for example, as you already know on facebook, they write happy birthday in ukrainian. it happened to us when we saw the tanks already under our house. and what do you think about this? this has already become a fixation. it has been rethought. this is an attitude or a trend. remember their language not because it is fashionable although it is fashionable, of course, but for many there was a different fashion and a different module was imposed on us
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. they want to deport or kill because they are ukrainians, the enemy directly says and writes about it in their articles, and then they understand that if we are ukrainians, we must stick together, stick together, stick to the values ​​of the history of our history and what unites us language is that what unites us the most, like every nation, we are obviously christians in the majority. although there are different denominations, it means that this part of our people are atheists in the post-soviet period, there are also many of them, but even regardless of faith, we are all united by language and people, that's it now this identifier and people feel it and they understand that the attack that is coming this is primarily an attack on the language, too, because without our language we become a mass part of the soviet people, russians, anyone, only on ukrainians, and people
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want to be ukrainians, because being ukrainian is speaking ukrainian is the main identifier. but the most important thing is to be free. and a free person who speaks ukrainian is what characterizes the ukrainian nation the most, and in order to survive, it is necessary, so people do it completely consciously, some consciously fall into some kind of veil, some understand that everything that there were times when they tried to adapt, to like making money, that all this was delusional, but the truth is something else, and that is why they return to their side, for example, russian-speaking kharkiv every day mariupol is being shelled like this. who was not there in all of ukraine, here in lviv we meet immigrants from kharkov, mariupol, kramatorsk. i see them because we have a public organization that organizes workshops, chess
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tournaments, various other entertainments for the children of these immigrants, and when i awarded the children in our tournament and they passed, asked everyone where are you from donetsk , kramatorsk, kharkiv, kherson, all these children spoke ukrainian, that's why when they say russian-speaking kharkiv, i i agree, there really were a lot of people there who spoke russian or used this language in the city, although for many of them it was ukrainian, for most of them, for almost all of them, ukrainian remained native even when they did not communicate and when there is a threat, you always return to something native to you and they are now of this native language are returning, that's why i never considered kharkiv to be russian-speaking except that it is a center of ukrainian culture and the house where shevelev lived is a symbolic house for me and today people who defend kharkiv, or the same zhadan, who
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works as a humanitarian there and helps a lot of people. my friend, the deceased, who died for pleasure before the war, barbara, a lvivian who moved to kharkiv and fell in love with this place, or the same kurbas, who is also a lvivian who he created a fantastic theater there, it's the same ukraine as lviv, sometimes in some ways even more, we perceive cities through personal so now we have listed who you know, who you are associated with a specific city, and who we can get you in in ukraine, for example, there were the british, churchill . who among us has such an iconic and powerful figure who can play such a personal role in history and in this war we will be victorious, you know it is difficult to talk about it because churchill was not alone. they started talking about churchill a long time ago after the war because immediately after the war he was not elected, he lost the election and he was not that great and many people in
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principle condemned him or believed that he was wrong or did not agree with him and the population also did not vote for him because of who will be evaluated by our people. we will not understand right away. this evaluation will come after some time. for me, of course, every hero who fights at the front is a hero for the ukrainian military command, obviously - these are all heroes. there are probably people who make mistakes among them. people who came from the soviet army and were not modernized. and there are those who graduated from the entire poet that american military schools or ukrainian ones are already absolutely european officers who are in no way inferior to the nato ones. there are different people everywhere, but each of them is a hero as well as in political power each of them, each of the politicians, including me, each of the parliamentarians and each of the heads of state and the president are all contradictory figures, but
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now we are all fighting as one against the influx of russian nazis, and people will later judge who was right and who what did he do years later? well, the question is whether you, in particular, and the government will be ready to make unpopular decisions and not be elected even after victory for her sake. well, personally, i never counted solely on popularity and voted for many things that were not are popular listen we came in the 14th year, our treasury was empty and it was very difficult for people. it was popular in post-soviet countries that you give money to people . you promise gold, you raise pensions, you distribute salaries, you raise salaries. and when we came after the maidan, there were several tens of thousands in the treasury hryvnias, especially salaries, you will give away, and in order to receive international funds, it was necessary to make very unpopular decisions, so for me,
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there is nothing strange about making unpopular decisions, uh, the war itself is not a popular mobilization unpopular, everything that is happening now is not popular . the people themselves understand that now is not the time for popularity, but in a while it is time for everyone to unite to defend themselves and politicians become strong, then from politicians to statesmen they do not think about elections. i think this is the most important thing, i am definitely in war conditions does not think about the elections, this is a unique time, such a historic time to show itself to strong people, we hope that the country will be in the first place for everyone, and what is victory for you now? this is a very popular word, i think that everyone is waiting for it and everyone is walking when when will it be, but on the other hand, we understand that it will not be easy and quick, so what is it for you , the end of the war and the restoration of a strong ukrainian state that will become a member of nato and the european
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union, this is a victory for me because it guarantees our future peace, obviously the liberation of the territory i am very worried about crimea because, as i have always believed that ukrainians have the right to their own state, their independence, their decisions, in the same way, i believe that the crimean tatars have their rights as a nation and we must do everything to ensure that the rights of the crimean tatars are protected, of course, i love crimea, the mountains and the sea, but i can say that it is a sin for me, the territory is not fundamental for me, the fundamental rights of the people who live in this territory are the crimean tatars in the crimea, they are ukrainians in the donetsk region, luhansk region, you know that the majority of our literature is representatives of the same shot revival and our luminaries , they were born there, we can also remember sosyura and ivan dzyuba and stus who lived there and many, many others, many of whom are
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representatives of the ukrainian luhansk region and the ukrainian many people were brought there from the donetsk region, but ukrainians for whom this land is their own have the right to return there and be protected on this land. when all ukrainians are protected for me, this will mean victory, we speak at a time when for several hours a day even in the cities of western ukraine we hear alarm and see rockets, so i, as a person of faith, do not know what we will find. but i know for sure and believe that the generation of our children will live in a strong and independent ukraine. i have no doubts about this. thank you, mykola knyazhytskyi people's deputy of ukraine - this is an interview before the independence day of our country, we hope that our children will live in an independent ukraine, but you and i now understand in real time what the price and value of this independence is, because right now ukrainians are dying for it every day, independence is
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important watch espresso, because it is truly a channel with a ukrainian view of the world, stay with us, the festive broadcast picks up the information and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel, 15:00, 43 minutes , about the most important and best ukrainian experts and christians, together with antin burkovskii , we can gradually collect important statements for ukraine that were made at the summit of the crimean platform and not only. the minister of foreign affairs of germany, anna elena bervok, said that the arist air defense system will be delivered to ukraine in the coming weeks . that ukraine will soon receive modern anti-aircraft defense systems and the
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cobra counter-ship combat radar station, yes, he answered the question of the ex-general of the german army of klaus wittmann when he inquired about these terms, perhaps in the near future it will make it a little easier for us to protect our ukrainian skies from the attack of russian missiles. well, we are adding artem chego to our broadcast as a people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the verkhovna rada committee on human rights, the deputy head of medlis in of the crimean tatar people of the former political prisoner of the kremlin glory to ukraine akhtema aga glory to the nation but as they say there is one nuance of the circumstances under which this event is taking place today absolutely others, the large-scale invasion of the russian federation in ukraine and, in fact, the rather uneasy situation on the peninsula itself. please tell me
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what you would note. if we talk about the progress of the crimean platform. of our state, can you possibly single out important statements that are aimed at some absolutely specific plan for the deoccupation of the peninsula? we are very right when they said that there really is a difference in today's reality. they greatly influenced this finding on the very message on the speeches of the participants of the crimean platform, first of all, this concerns president zelensky himself. i watched and listened and understood that the rubicon has been crossed this
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is primarily the merit of our ukrainians and the armed forces, because this and that, after the crimean platform, we had some processes in the state from the side of the authorities that were very disturbing, and well, personally, i was nervous about this and the opening of the checkpoint, do you remember this and the gas station the station is enough, yes, and, then, i well, we could not shout to the authorities that it is impossible to do, that it is not necessary for our citizens in crimea, as it was during the occupation, that it is necessary, first of all, for these tourists who are from ukraine the mainland, er, everyone
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tried to get there and soak their ass in the sun, yes, by the sea, and among them there were many deputies of ukraine in the local but also a separate verkhovna rada. therefore, now the messenger has changed, and the president very clearly said, er, the whole intentions of our state, our the people of ukraine were not enough for me look er speech accents er that is exactly what you did we did homework in the first part where we clearly er worked and adopted the law of leading peoples and for this summit i think it would be very timely to adopt the changes as well to the constitution of
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ukraine on the status of crimea. especially since we see today that our actions in crimea greatly contribute to the resistance of our citizens . of the military on the territory of crimea, and how panicked the occupiers and those who fled, as well as collaborators oh, yes, yes, i would like to ask you about the situation with panic. yes, we have seen more than one video when the russian occupying tourists rush out urgently, and there is no longer such a vague relationship as before, and uh, they all emphasize support not only humanitarian, but they also add that and
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they will provide all other ways of support for ukraine. this is the main thing that we heard today and it is good. i hope that this is what we tried to convey so that there would be no ukraine from crimea and what today emphasized that with it all started in crimea and it will end in crimea. this is another one of ours. my colleague smich lisu narimandzhilyav and uh, this was also quoted by the president and the minister of foreign affairs kuleba. if it concerns panic, panic. i think that this is such an important aspect of counterattack when you demoralize the enemy. when you demoralize this scumbag when you, by your actions, create the conditions
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for them to flee from the crimea. and this must continue as far as ours are concerned. well, they, i already said, they finally felt in these eight years that diplomacy in our country has... it's frank such a military message, and this is also a change of that year, those of recent years and today's realities, mr. artem, a very important point, i would like to quote maria tomak now, she is the head of the service of the crimean platform of the representative presidency of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea in our country noted that the crimean platform is a manifestation of the political and diplomatic path of deoccupation and reintegration of crimea. but there are other tools in the strategy ukraine reserves the right to use not only diplomatic tools
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for the de-occupation of crimea we can also talk about the military component, we understand that officials at different levels of politics they should be as careful as possible in any of their statements but nevertheless , in the official field, authoritative diplomats , in particular ogryzko, said approximately the same thing on our air about de-occupation crimea can happen precisely through military means, for diplomacy, in principle, you can leave the window of opportunity open, but less so, you need to be realistic, mr. artem, in your opinion, today on the crimean platform, our partners are sending signals that they are ready to support this military course of deoccupation of our peninsula and will they help us in this just as they are helping us now with weapons to liberate the kherson region - these are parts of the kharkiv region and certainly donbas well, first of all, i welcome the fact
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that our officials finally started to talk about uh, diplomacy, military uh, first of all, uh, just yesterday. for some reason , everyone uh, uh, tried to prove to us that there is a civilian population there. yes, we also uh, water should be given there. ran into or there are almost a million tourists from russia as er participants of this putin mirror yes and today i congratulate and support it better er better than never yes as for what i heard i heard that is, i will work once again. we will always be there. this is the main
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partner of ours, who today help, help, and help with weapons, and they already seem to be covering parts of the mainland of ukraine, that is, kherson zaporizhzhia, but they add crimea and that this is our territory, and they will and another way to us to help and what are the other ways to demonstrate our military power to liberate our territories, that's why i think that this event will send such a strong message to our enemy and especially to our citizens who have been waiting to wait... excuse me. when will ukraine begin? this is the path to liberation
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. do you remember crimea? it all changes and this and that ok ahtemaga, we understand that the president of poland flew in personally to the meeting of the crimean platform , it is about england duda, so he held a personal meeting and he took part in the meeting of the crimean platform. will turkey's position on the crimean issue be clearer now? we understand that it is not only about symbolic things, but about very concrete things, so president erdogan flew to lviv a few days ago, where he had a meeting with
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the secretary general of the un and the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, what is the current turkish position when you talk about turkey, let's watch together there is no other powerful partner in the black sea like ukraine, the domination of russia, they don’t, they don’t, they don’t want to initiate it, secondly, they personally rdagan, and it depends on him today, that’s ukraine’s support, and he always always emphasizes it yes and military, about which he probably does not openly say, but we but we all feel three ertagans very
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strong, such a powerful personality and he will never abandon his friends in the face of ukraine, and there are no strategic relations with russia and there cannot be at all, and therefore let us it will be today, he will not be from him, it will be the minister of foreign affairs, just like that time, but it is not clear. he will tell us that turkey is close to us, and there is no doubt about that. thank you, we do not have doubts so that turkey supports ukraine again but with on the other hand, we understand how great is russia's diplomatic and financial pressure on individual countries; on the other hand, we understand that ukraine can
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not afford to rely only on external players, because we have our own internal ukrainian policy, and i wanted to ask you what it should be now to be the correct policy regarding the temporarily occupied zaporozhian kherson region, we understand that perhaps it would be worthwhile to slightly adjust the intentions of russia to repeat the scenarios of the captured territory as in the crimea on it didn't work in kherson oblast, and that's why it 's connected to the actions of our military. i was at the beginning of the war, at the beginning of february. when the fighting started , i said that it can't be compared to crimea as an island, and it's such a big front. hmm, almost 500 km, which uh, we have the opportunity
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uh, to use uh, our uh, our actions in relation to kherson and not allow the occupiers or collaborators to gain a foothold there, and uh, the most important thing for our citizens there is territory er to give confidence it works and i think that there are no more analogies from crimea, but this is an action, they have a great influence on the territory of crimea, and that is why they are connected with the liberation of kherson. i think it is, you know, it cannot be postponed to paton, because without kherson, we have very very big losses, not only economic, but also political and geopolitical, that's why it's here. well, there's no other
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choice. i think that in this direction, the military is preparing its capabilities. and our partners are also thanking you, auto mages. council on rights of a person, the deputy head of the medical council of the crimean tatar people worked live on the informational and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel together with khrystyna yatskiv and antin vorkovskii, and now it is news time on the espresso tv channel, which means that our team of journalists has prepared a new issue, and we invite our colleague iryna koval to present it

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