the christian democrats are the largest faction and the largest number of politicians are the social democrats who are creating a coalition on which a lot depends on our prospects for membership in the social democrats we need to work a little more because so far well, not to the end , er, we are still working on it this direction, bohdan , stay in touch, we will add information after the victory, it is necessary to create a completely new security system in the world together with other states, so that such a war does not happen again, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yarmak, said this noted that it is very important for our country that at the second summit of the crimean platform, many european countries are represented at the highest level, because this shows great support, this event is another confirmation that ukraine and its partners do not forget about any ukrainian region temporarily occupied by russia, russia has

to bear international legal responsibility for the aggression, the destruction of the rules of modern security and for the genocide that it is committing in ukraine, a separate extremely important task of developing such a security system that will make it impossible to repeat it in in the future of the current war, and what should this model be, because a number of experts are already saying that these meetings are regular in the rammstein format, and the one that was in copenhagen is the foundation of this new format, which has been talked about for a long time, even in winter, in february, it was emphasized in the office of the president of ukraine well, first of all, those formats should be effective and preventive, i would say so, that is, often. unfortunately, for countries that are not part of nato, such as ukraine,

there was an issue with the speed of decision-making for example, there was a question at the beginning of the war about the supply of weapons, about aid directly, and here i think our western partners have come to certain conclusions, it is just necessary to work on and already consolidate the tool e-e for the consolidation of western partners in the context and preventive actions directly and then if they happen, for example, in the future a similar situation of very quick , effective steps in countering the aggressor, well, president volodymyr zelenskyi spoke about the fact that this decision should be made and actions should be applied in the event of aggression within one days and here we mention the fact that some of our german partners did not give us more than three days, saying that we really are the official authorities in ukraine and the armed forces will not be able to withstand the onslaught

of the russian army. but we have already been standing for six months. i think this is a problem not only there germany was just there in the public space, there was a lot of criticism of germany, and there was and continues to be, although germany now no longer provides substantial military and heavy weapons, the question in other countries was that unfortunately not everyone believed in our ability and er protect directly repel such an onslaught of russian aggressors aggressors that is why i think that if we are talking about something institutional yes, in the context of the security nature, it is too much for now, so we should focus on the effectiveness of the speed and effectiveness of the cooperation of western democracies in military aid in the first place turn to those who are really threatened by aggression from authoritarian

countries, well, in particular, russia directly, bohdan if we talk about the crimea, it is the second year, and there are absolutely two big differences between when it when was this summit held for the first time and under what circumstances did the leaders of the countries gather today? i remember a year ago i just directly participated in the ukrainian pro -platform and was involved with the nato parliamentary delegation, it was completely different circumstances, we really had to host the summit parliamentary and narkivska in may, but the context has changed very well that we were able to adapt quickly and still really, although in an online format, considering the war, but to mobilize even more support this year and this it is important. it is important to first summarize the activities of the annual in the context of the crimean platform within the framework of deoccupation, what was achieved, where it was possible to

improve and move on, to move in specific directions that served, you know, such successful stories also for our western partners, because from this emotional attachment to the issue of crimea to the issue of deoccupation countering russian aggression depends on joint success in what the direction in this matter well, and finally, we want to discuss one more topic with you: an alley has appeared in ukraine the names of true friends of ukraine will be engraved on it, modeled after the famous hollywood walk of fame, it was inaugurated today by president volodymyr zelenskyi together with his polish colleague andrzej duda. his name was the first to appear on the avenue. all those who supported our state, at the same time the polish president emphasized that ukraine can always count on the support of poland. i want the presence of the president of poland.

the beginning of this alley, but the courage of the side is depressing , the name of the name of the president of poland, because dudy will always be on this one, but you can see it, but it is a symbol of courage, a symbol of friendship, a symbol of support for ukraine when it is really needed, this name appeared here not only political leaders will be here, but all those partners in the west, partners from other friendly countries who have been with us from the first days of this war, from the first days of the full-scale invasion . i assure you that we notice them in poland. i want to emphasize once again that ukraine, ukrainians, the authorities of ukraine can count on poland and the poles. i sincerely believe that ukraine will only be able to defend itself and ukraine

will win. conditionally speaking, competition among other leaders of western countries, with whom we cooperate the most in this case in order to be on this alley , competition is always positively stimulating, so we will i think create such conditions that the government there leaders and countries competed with each other in order to really be in solidarity with ukraine, because the issue of democracy in force is being resolved at your front and here. it is important not to use words, but to show this stability . it is really important in order to symbolically emphasize the role of our partners in this confrontation, because only with joint efforts can we really win

russia in this war mr. bohdan thank you joined our broadcast tonight, bohdan ferenc , an expert on international issues, was with us the second himself from the crimean platform united the whole world around ukraine like never before, this is the way to create real mechanisms for the deoccupation of the peninsula and its integration back into ukraine this was stated by the deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine kyrylo tymoshenko he added that the return of crimea is the security of the entire black sea region of europe and the world, and ukrainian crimea is one of the key principles of the diplomatic team president zelenskyi - this task will never be left or forgotten, justice will be restored, crimea was and will be ukraine, russia never intended to solve military issues through diplomacy, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy stated this at a press conference. as part of the crimean platform summit, the head of state emphasized russia with its actions proves that in fact she never thought about negotiations

after the war did not come, everyone must understand that now we have a war secondly everything so it happens that there can be no talks and talks thirdly the narratives that russia puts forward that ukraine does not want peace sound ridiculous, to put it mildly. they came to us and killed only citizens of ukraine, and citizens of ukraine exclusively defend themselves and fight for their lives, and russia is accompanied by daily attacks, breakthroughs and offensives, and then retreats, everything is accompanied by bloody murders and violence, it tells everyone to us that they do not see any negotiations other than these . and we explain that everything they did shows that they do not think about dialogue in any way and

never thought, they made the decision to occupy our country it's like in 2014 they made this decision and the world didn't give them good wishes well, they didn't give them luck they moved on and we give them wishes happy independence day, because the day has already started on august 24, so i congratulate everyone on independence day. i think that never in our history has this day been so valuable for us as we realize it today. so thank you for the greetings. we actually started our broadcast with this, but our conversation i i would like to start with the last words of the president. well, we heard that, because the fragment itself

was about a minute long, but the last thing we heard from him was that the world should have stopped russia, as you can see in the way president volodymyr zelensky spoke. and now this is happening, does russia get a position or not, well, considering the results of their campaign in ukraine, it definitely gets, well, at least it gets much more than it received in other regions where it pursued a similar position, a similar policy destructive well, that is, she is used to the fact that she succeeds in everything, well, with little blood, that they climb this, well , insolently, and they are inferior somewhere, and in fact, it was such a silent agreement of the world community, which the russians perceived as a kind of carte blanche for the continuation of such a destructive positions well, if it was popularly explained to the russians only

starting with the series of conflicts in transnistria in abkhazia, later already in georgia during the war in chechnya well, i think that in principle maybe there would not have been even those bloody events before 2014 in ukraine is one of the well, let's do this, the armed forces of ukraine are definitely being beaten. so here we are not even discussing, but the world community is what they were afraid of before. it is clear that if we had not resisted so much, the world would have swallowed this aggression as before, but now they already understand their do they use force or not, or are they trying to come to an agreement somewhere or to go between the drops, well, it is clear that zelenskyy said correctly. send signals to us weapons, but weapons were not

sent why because no one wanted to fight with russia and it is clear that the entire civilized world is built on the fact that normal people are conscious people in principle people yes they prefer to live in peace they ache to live in prosperity they try to resolve all conflicts in a peaceful political legal way, therefore there is nothing surprising in the fact that there are also french and germans and ukrainians zelensky the same yes. we have always advocated to regulate the issue in a peaceful way, we in the 14th year ukraine clearly declared its desire to resolve this issue diplomatically. well, russia simply demonstrated its behavior on february 24. they clearly do not want and are not going to resolve the issue peacefully . definitely demonstrate the wonders of courage, skill, heroism. but one must understand that there is also a diplomatic front, which

is the issue of the supply of weapons - this is a huge achievement and deserving, that is, the ukrainian the diplomacy of the ukrainian government. well, because we understand that in those years we were at war. yes, because we have the appropriate tool for the introduction of e-e sanctions. well, we understand that the russians. i think they did not believe that there would be any sanctions against them. they thought that everyone would swallow it. and it will be approximately the same as it was in the 14th year, it didn’t happen like that, i thought how many packages of sanctions the european union has already introduced and they continue. the pressure to continue is sanctioned, that is, today the world actually finally understood that it is necessary to either put an end to this negative destructive policy of the russian federation, or put an end to this destructive policy of the russian federation , well, in the world in which we are now

used to living. valentine, we have 30 seconds for your answer but an important point is that the aggressor will not back down until his face is covered in blood from being repulsed. depends on how quickly the ukrainian armed forces receive the required number of necessary tools in order to break the possibility of the russian occupying forces to conduct a military campaign in ukraine. i just want to remind you that mrs. zelenskyi, when she spoke in the us congress about this, said that we are asking for the armed forces because we we want war not because we are looking for some kind of aggression we want to put an end to attraction we want peace but in order to put an end to price we need weapons to really knock them out of our territory to break their eyes, these are aggressive jerks. this is just an answer to your question. thank you. thank you for

your brevity. political scientist valentin glykh was with us. the marathon continues and will be continued by my colleague tetyana goncharova. azarkhina deputy minister of infrastructure oleksandr i congratulate you i congratulate you oleksandr i congratulate you and i want to talk with you at length about crimea and then ask you other questions as well because the last eight years the occupying russian authorities rebuilt the infrastructure of crimea in order to completely sever its connection with mainland ukraine. the result of this was the gradual deterioration of many things, but in particular the logistics routes and the actual decline of the transport sector of crimea. please tell me what you personally see as the strategic goal of the transport integration of the peninsula there are

key theses around which we plan our work on infrastructure projects, the first block is what we are fighting for now russia has actually closed the peninsula in such a way that it is simply closed from all sides, starting with the transport infrastructure and ending with all things related to the cultural space and the space of modern technologies and the space of communication with education in general, that is why when we planned those projects that concern reconstruction of the post-war crimea itself. right after its occupation, they are connected with the fact that we have to open the crimea to the world and actually the world to open er to crimea, that is, two out of two sides, this process works. how is it related to with specific practical things, you correctly said that with the fact that russia built everything in this

way, to connect everything with itself separately, to completely interrupt those established natural connections with other regions of ukraine. of course, we need to restore it, but we need to do even more for in order to fit crimea not only into the purely ukrainian space, but also into the european space, and here we need to make up for all the work that ukraine has done in order to really become part of the european space and, moreover, to open the mediterranean space for itself, this is the vector that we often talk about we forget a lot, but if you just take a ruler and measure the distance from simferopol, let's say to cairo in egypt or there to st. petersburg, then it is obvious that we should fly closer to egypt, and this is historically connected with the fact that crimea was part of the hellenic world. part of the transport and all flows that are connected with the entire mediterranean sea, but artificial well, since soviet times, these connections

were chosen because when we talk about such a large framework of reconstruction, we are first of all talking about the opening of crimea and the opening of these two policies moreover, there are such interesting technical details now, as you know, the aviation space over the crimea has been closed for 8 years, and in this line, too, they are very revealing for us, and they are a-a for us as a result and economic, because we lost part of the aviation, including of transit due to the blocking of this space, as well as sea routes, that is, now crimea is such a black spot, you know, closed, which prevents the development of the entire water area of ​​the black sea when we talk about the return of normal crimea and the reconstruction of all public public institutions 100% here, we need to fix it in infrastructure projects, and this applies not only to, say, roads and railways, but really to air traffic and sea passenger

transport, such is the irony of fate, our colleague is also the deputy minister who is responsible for the desk before the occupation of crimea, he was engaged in large projects that were supposed to launch such large projects in crimea specifically for passenger cruise transportation, but this is only one part. that is, i will repeat this about the fact that we need to open crimea to the world and the world crimea, moreover, we understand that until the 14th year, in fact, the majority of vacationers in crimea, 63%, were actually citizens of ukraine, the other part - they were primarily citizens of russia during the occupation there under 90%, this is precisely the vacationer from russia there, other members are also there of their eurasian union after the liberation of crimea, we understand that this proportion should change and at least 30% of all tourists. we want to see from europe the united states from other partner states, and here again, which without normal

infrastructure, this cannot be achieved, but the second at the moment we understand that russia built its infrastructure projects in such a way that they made rome, first of all, a military base, the militarization in the infrastructure itself is also very telling, so for us there is a need to transform crimea from such a closed military base into the southern gate of ukraine. we discussed this in great detail during our discussions and the development of this a-a plan for the reconstruction of crimea after the deoccupation and with various experts from the crimean platform, and we really understand that a-a crimea in these conditions, which it is in. it will also be perform certain security tasks, but this time it is not about a closed such base, but about a gate, and a gate is not only about protection, but also about our openness about what we want and welcome our partners to open a modern open world

on the territory of the peninsula, that is, a philosophical - these are actually two such big theses and we can dive further and talk then because the strategy still begins with philosophy and vision. i am impressed by your statement that crimea should become the gateway to such a southern ukraine, but when we start thinking from the moment of the deoccupation of crimea . and how will even what you said be implemented. although i understand that we are not going to list everything now, of course questions arise. you say that the black sea area is not developing now. but in fact, someone can blame the fact that the crimean bridge and what is the future of its history and can we say that this infrastructural facility can already be written into ukrainian history and the need to develop the black sea water area, although of course we miss the fact that the armed forces of ukraine will have worked by that time in fact, we have allocated a separate point of our

plan which is dedicated to the safe dismantling of the crimean bridge, because the issue of this bridge is not only an infrastructural issue, but it is also an environmental issue, and we understand that the damage caused by the construction of this bridge will have to be restored later the entire ecosystem of the black and azov seas, just as we are talking about the development of the water area, our sea of ​​azov has become almost a lake. guaranteed dismantling and we really understand that here we need to invest more in projects related to shipbuilding, for example, and when we talk about, for example, to make better use of what remains from the occupiers, then this is precisely what concerns shipbuilding, because we understand that there because of certain a-and, first of all, defense orders, they developed the production of e in the

crimea is related to this, and i think that it should be returned to us, and ukraine should, of course, more systematically deal with all its shipbuilding, not from there interesting programs like this were developed even there before the full-scale invasion, and we understand the potential that, at the same time, exists in mykolaiv and so on, so here we will 100% work to create demand for this very vessel and that then production would be loaded. ah, about uh, things are related to other types of transport , that is, apart from the port air service, it is clear , that is, really, uh, crimea can be so much more hubby and in this regard, it was absolutely underestimated, and 100% there are those connections that they just started there in the 13th year, if you remember. we were there even from lviv. kyiv and i, it was quite fast and comfortable transportation, it all stopped. and we are actually recording the fact that the direction of this in crimea is actually if

all that was nullified, then we will return plus such things. for example, road connections, when ukraine signed an association with the european union. we began to integrate into the european road network and we are gradually adding all our routes there we undertake to make these routes comfortable, they must meet the standards and safety standards, and this, first of all, you know, such visibility on the european map, and this is our goal, that just when we liberate crimea, we must also implement those projects that concern e roads for example m14 from odesa to kherson and further from kherson to simferopol, roads m17 and n-05 , we also understand that high-speed and freight rail connections should work effectively there. because when we worked in ukraine to to connect all regional centers with high-speed lines

there, the capital, and so on, this is primarily not only about, you know, there are some purely infrastructural needs. these are really projects related to the stitching of the country, because statistics showed that you are crimeans who, first of all they voted for russia, for example, in that pseudo-referendum for russia, they did not see not only ukraine and not only the world, but this directly affects the worldview of people. therefore, we need to show ukraine, show the world, and only in this way, we can really show by example that a completely different country and crimea will not just return to ukraine, but will also return to modernity . first of all, i want our viewers to understand correctly why we focused so much on crimea today because periodically you appear on the air of the national marathon and you specifically in the ministry of infrastructure are responsible for the strategy and reconstruction and development of infrastructure objects that are important for the nation's economy, security and defense, but today, in particular, i decided to

focus with you on crimea because the issue of deoccupation of course, it is relevant. hello, in connection with this, another relevant question arises. crimea, in your opinion, in the opinion of the ministry of infrastructure, in your face. it should be deprived of the status of autonomy, the status of the republic, mmm, this will be a relevant story now, and here those things are first of all, me first of all now here i am speaking within the framework of our small working group that we worked with the crimean platform and before the events related there until august 23, when the whole world of the past is talking about crimea. sklainer crimea has already been liberated. ukraine has resolved the issue with those russians who entered its territory after the already temporary occupation. that is, there are a lot of stipulations, really, as if by the ministry of infrastructure. we probably cannot comment on autonomy. but we have several principled positions that we discussed in the team first of all,

we understand that the administrative system that existed before this must be revised, it is ineffective, it also created certain political conditions, such as the prerequisites for what happened on 100% we should pay more attention to the indigenous peoples and there should definitely be an opportunity for their greater self-expression, we understand that most of the problems that the indigenous peoples have we could actually solve with the european reforms that ukraine is already carrying out, this is decentralization, this is all that concerns human rights, this everything that concerns and in general in a broad sense as the rights of indigenous peoples, but in any case, there is still a lot of work to be done here. including from the crimea after the occupation, one hundred percent here for us, you know all these things firsthand. and for example , when we are also responsible for tourism policy at the ministry and our information includes the state agency for the development of tourism, and with them we also tried to rethink the role

of the tourism industry after the occupation, we understand that there, too, it was all completely centralized. this was all within the framework of the fact that the russian state invested there in, let's say, sanatoriums, you know, there are free tours and so on, they are so artificial demand was created. yes, it really helped to keep this industry, but it is actually not for the market of entrepreneurship, it is, first of all, subsidies, the same time when we talk about tourism in crimea after deoccupation, we will rely on small and medium-sized entrepreneurs, we are developing a new concept there crimea 356 there, together with our colleagues-partners there, including those from the verkhovna rada, we are finding ways to create a new brand of crimea, which is related to finding not only this beach season, but a little wider and including such things how are they related, for example, to a small enterprise, because even at the moment when it does not accept tourists , it can be engaged in cheese making, it can be engaged in

growing snails, whatever i am modern approaches and the main thing here is to properly support small entrepreneurs oleksandr one small question literally for a minute today first dmytro kuleba, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, at the crimean platform, which is being held this year in an online format, but it is still very important to have the support and participation of 60 countries, said even if theoretically the enemy will again stand over kyiv under kiev, we will still plan the deoccupation of crimea and now you are talking about how you artificially came up with the presentation of crimea, in your opinion, after all, the future of crimea is tourism. is it industry here first of all ? be also, you know, an outpost for ukraine, because in any case there should be some kind of industry there, but we set a condition and it is also related to our european integration, namely environmental standards of industry