yes, we need to winterize today, and the heating season will come. today, 3-4 billion hryvnias were allocated from the budget. well, this is such big money. we need to return people home today. people must return, at least to someone in the home mode there. 10 %, so that these people will first of all return home, and then of course we will build cities and rebuild them. they will not give money, i want to say everything if someone has any illusions that we can get money and spend it as we want, this will not happen, so i want all laws to be passed as soon as possible, and there are conditions, among other things eh, in order to join the eurossia, eh, there

are laws built according to minrey, i hope that soon they will be adopted. mr. burke, thank you for a second. we will be optimistic about this to let you go, his examination as an expert on economic and political issues was with us , i will remind vitaly bezhyn, people's deputy and chairman of the committee on administrative and territorial organization of the verkhovna rada , together with us. berkadze says that they need to be voted on by industries in the construction industry, exactly what concerns restoration, in fact, everything has already been approved , that is, there are some point changes, precisely in terms of the approach to implementation, but in fact, as i said as for security, as for compliance with the european standard, the issue is exclusively already in effect and, in fact, practically implemented, because what my colleague said

about transparency, transparency, we understand that even when the draft law becomes a law, it no longer provides prose, this is already its implementation framework, yes then the idea of ​​implantation, when we talk about the restoration of objects, how does it work now, now different teams are collecting all this mass information on damage to destroyed property and so on, let's take a key approach, so that these objects are were actually open access for donors and when the donor invests some funds directly for the restoration of, say, some school or some tsnapu in some community, he can actually observe online the implementation of this project in our country, in principle something pilot did not exist before when there was the state fund of the regional development could also be observed there, but of course there was no such strict control from the west, so somewhere someone could abuse only the inclusion of our partners was definitely souls when it will be one of the key of funds, of course, it will not do without strict control, let’s find out more about the ways in which ukraine interacts with our partners, and our

state has signed a memorandum with representatives of eurocities regarding support in the reconstruction of cities . call for the immediate withdrawal of russian troops and the restoration of peace, the key in cooperation will be the restoration of ukrainian cities that suffered from russian aggression, the association of european cities plans to unite more than 200 large cities to implement projects for the reconstruction of european cities will be our congress of local and regional bodies. i want to assure you that every city of our country benefits from this . i have a question about control, which we have already mentioned, because as we know the construction market, well before that, before the war, at least it was like this. well, specific, everyone played

by their own rules. to check the same dbn as they follow the rules of fire safety and so on, that is, the countries that become donors, they will be present not only at the financing stage. they will also be auditors to a certain extent, or for example, they will give their citizens for for them to take, er, these contracts and work , will these jobs still be for ukrainians, well, contracts will be a separate story for sure here of course we should have been interested here in that as a rule, these were ukrainian jobs because the war also undermines the economy as far as control is concerned, of course, again, as he said, it is built on transparency when the donor can observe and on the basis of this understand. next, does he give the next tranche for the completion of this object or not? of course, what is there to integrate into their some kind of oversight body, well, it is impossible because these representatives are not citizens of ukraine, but here, the carrot works, the carrot or the whip , there is money, there is no money, unfortunately or

fortunately, this is exactly the situation, by the way, sk-, or what has been said about eurocities, it is necessary to understand what is the importance of this memorandum. this will help to control why in russia they finance as a rule according to the community-community format , that is, there are cities, are they sister cities or are they expanding, for example, now mostly polish cities there have refused all sister cities with russians so that's right, we can't help but welcome it directly when you understand that you are a state umbrella that guarantees the umbrella of the mayor of another city and you are ready to invest from your city in some project in another city in ukraine for recovery. it's much easier, for example, again the same poles, they have already changed the legislation in the country, and the polish change is their self- governing body, they can transfer funds directly to the ukrainian community, that is, when it

will work more fully in our country, because now there is really a lot the funds go first to the armed forces, there is a certain regulation by the cabinet of ministers, this will be the most transparent and fast option, but of course the state must provide an umbrella of guarantees and i, again, an opaque menu, when you saw this happening, no one will give funds . this is obvious, let's talk about the vision it is we who want to receive e-e as a result of reconstruction, and now oleksandr kava, deputy minister of finance of ukraine, mr. oleksandr, will join our broadcast. good evening. good afternoon. good afternoon. vadim. good afternoon, dear viewers. vitaliy without him is with us in the studio and we are now talking about recovery and financing, you as the deputy minister of finance of ukraine hmm what can you say about the amount of money that is already coming in and how it will be used because vitaliy has run away more than once today i emphasized transparency, that it exists and that our western partners demand it very much because we are talking about colossal sums, well, transparency of the use of funds

is definitely one of the key factors, but those funds that are currently coming mainly to the state budget they are aimed at covering the deficit of the state budget so that we can finance the armed forces of ukraine without problems - this is still a key expenditure part of the state budget and also fulfill our social obligations to citizens, but as for the funds for reconstruction, so far there are local programs that work with local budgets, as for the global recovery program, it should start already after the end of hostilities. therefore, now the main thing for the ministry of finance and the government and of the president - this is the financing of the armed forces of ukraine , a lot of effort is being put into this to ensure the expenditure part of our state budget four with the letter i unfortunately, mr.

oleksandr, i apologize for the communication problems, we will now restore and get back to you vitaliy, i will give you two examples. there is a destroyed conditional khrushchevka, and people expect that it will be rebuilt and rebuilt better. there are destroyed houses in irpen, for example, houses that were of very good quality , they were modern, and if in the first case people expect an improvement in their housing conditions, in the second case, and in the second case, no less, they don't want a deterioration, yes, the state is taking some steps in this case. or not worse well, it will be like that in any case, because even if you take a new new one, the housing stock that was destroyed, it was still mostly built according to new standards, which if they do not

even correspond to world practice, then to it possibilities have been approximated and in five years, in the last 5 years they have definitely changed even more. limits because now the primary need of those who have lost their homes is to have a roof over their heads, especially when autumn comes, winter will come, frosts will come, and then it will be a more detailed, more thorough, longer process, that is, if we can now clearly say that as far as social infrastructure is concerned, i have referring to the field of health care institutions, medical institutions, institutions in addition to administrative services. it is much easier than the housing fund. of course, this is a colossal amount of losses from the point of view of this property, and the latest funding amounts are needed, so let's just say that health care institutions in ukraine have developed hospital reconstruction plan the ministry of health announced that the updated requirements for the design and construction of medical facilities will allow the construction of hospitals that will meet the best european and world standards

standards, this will make it possible to improve the conditions of patients in hospitals and improve the working conditions of doctors. since february 24, the occupiers have damaged 788 medical facilities and destroyed 123 more shunts. when we talk about the hospital, it is also in some distant perspective, it is already after the war. if we are now talking about what we are just covering state deficit well, here we are talking about the fact that the priorities are really the army and the deficit, but still look here, we need to make a distinction, and i will give an example when we talk about a village hospital, there about communal hospitals for a more complex and vivid example, this is trostyanets in the sumy oblast, 40 km from the border with russia, there was simply probably the best communal hospital in ukraine, which the occupiers shot dead, including the maternity ward, in which, in fact, last year she was from about chernobyl just last year, these are those examples within the limits of large-scale construction in particular, which had already appeared, well, it is now functioning. that

is, it was not possible to fix the windows there, replace the windows, insulate, and similar things so that it functioned but if we are talking about a universal reboot, then of course it takes more time for this and the difference between a quick recovery and a multi- stem recovery, but when we talk about the system there is one more point why it should be a reasonable approach, well, let's imagine some community, let's say in kharkiv oblast the border with russia, so there was a certain fixed number of patients, a certain number of children of preschool age, respectively, this was calculated on this and the existing infrastructure , at the same time, the corresponding indicators were in some communities in the lviv region, it is obvious that due to the danger of similar things there, the population there will decrease in the medium term after the end of the war, and there will increase accordingly, to say that we have destroyed 100 schools, of which maybe 80 were not of super quality, and we need to rebuild 100 schools, well, this is wrong, more correct it is possible to build less, but more modern

, to provide normal, comfortable buses for transportation, to save money in such a way and to provide children with normal socialization, that patients have a normal stay directly in hospitals. another approach that has everything will be modeled, but as for hospitals and the possibilities and capacities to serve here, now we are talking exclusively in the context of the war, but we still forgot a little bit that we have a coronavirus and cold weather is coming soon, autumn is coming and, in principle, we are approaching the period when the coronavirus is very spreads quickly then i want to believe that if we have such a problem with a lack of seats that we will also be helped by western partners, in particular, we are now taking a short break and will be back in a few moments one who wanted to become one of our of calendars, a day that ceased to be just a holiday, a day that was not celebrated by everyone, and which could not have happened

if it were not for our defenders. we thank the ukrainian soldiers for the independence day of ukraine. we continue our broadcast. russian aggression for the infrastructure of ukraine has already exceeded 100 billion dollars, calculated by the kyiv school of economics in the last two months, they have increased by almost 13 billion dollars, damages from the destruction of more than 115,000 private of buildings amounted to 5.5 billion dollars. and the losses from the destruction of more than 15,000 apartment buildings amounted to much more than 42 billion dollars. the occupiers caused damage to the general infrastructure of the city, villages and 8 billion direct losses of industry, which managed to calculate. but the indirect losses of the ukrainian economy are estimated at almost 129 billion dollars refers to a partial or complete stoppage

of the activities of enterprises, infrastructure objects and institutions lead to a complete or partial stoppage of activities loss of income growth i will remind with us today of the expenses related to the war vitaliy bezgin, the chairman of the committee on administrative and territorial organization of the verkhovna rada committee on the organization of state power, local self-government , regional development and urban planning, vitaliy a-a, we understand that the war did not affect not only in general, at the state level, for our financial well- being, but also for how communities developed, what exactly ukraine has been actively engaged in for the past few years and transferred more and more powers funds for places now, as you see, this is happening now because people left their communities and moved to new ones, you gave the example of kharkiv region, lviv region with a kindergarten school, or a medical facility that was there, but at the same time, it is also a feeling of comfort of life, quality of life, how can we go back to what

we did and to improve it qualitatively again, well, look here, we need to distinguish several things , first of all, according to my subjective impression, in general, they believe that ukrainian localities are not saved by the armed forces of ukraine, because odna the matter is when you ensure the stability of the water supply of similar things in peacetime, another situation is when you now conditionally have mykolayivs who fly in every day. ukraine it all works there, although in the rear regions there is an over-execution of local budgets, a very strong conviction, especially if it is implemented according to the method of transcarpathia, then there they have increased very significantly for objective reasons, business is already too moved, moved, provocation, similar things, it couldn't help but have an impact, uh, now. despite this, we understand that communities, of course, cannot fully use even the ones that lead to the opportunities that they have.

the representative of the cabinet of ministers who says that the guys have a clear list of articles for which there are funds. and of course , first of all, it is the armed forces of ukraine, because we can develop our community in any way we want, if the armed forces cannot stand up, then we understand that all this else has no meaning, so if we talk about such a development in the territory of one or another community, even a wealthy one, well, this year it is now impossible, now it is called, we have to endure it there, it is obvious, but in the future, of course , we do not have any setback from the point of view of legislative support and about this, by the way, when the scandals were happening, ms. urso, please forward her who said that self-government is decentralization as well as digitalization of the history of success, and ukraine has no possibility to deviate from this vector but again, security and defense are still the tasks of the state and the central government as such. but if we are talking about communities that are currently under occupation or that are still suffering from shelling in mykolaiv oblast, we remind you of kharkiv oblast, we can talk about the fact that the state has a vision does it have

a program to return people there because this is a very complex issue, uh, the proximity to the border with russia, the unpredictability of russia, even elementary fear of returning to your apartment, where in a neighboring house or on the street. have you seen the horrors of the war of murder uh, how should we act in this regard, or will there not be a distortion in us that the majority will remain in central or western ukraine well, there will not be a direct global distortion, this is even now possible to look at the territory, which is even actually front-line, anyway. people are now returning little by little, and in spite of that the dangers of a difficult heating season, the dangers of shelling, this is a real dynamic, especially since we are talking there with representatives of self-government, the same zaporizhzhia region, because , first of all, it is still its own, and secondly, people will exhaust the reserve of this comfort cushion, including material, especially where it is the private sector of yetivsk that is still returning. as for the general approach, we have already changed the approaches to the

state regional policy, indeed we have adopted such a certain zone of increased security, this is where there should be other approaches to development, this is a conditional territory 30 km from the border with russia from the border with belarus from the border with transnistria, because we count as we believe that even after the victory, since on this range it is possible to strike there, not even a missile, directly, artillery with the territory of the neighboring state, respectively, this is a zone of increased danger, respectively, if we say we want the business to return there, it means that the state must insure its risks, if we say that people have returned there, 100% everything must be covered by a bomb shelter, a shelter in all social infrastructure facilities, therefore in such a territory, yes, these are completely different approaches, and even now it can already be traced in the rear. simply, if we are talking about the academic season and there is this mixed system now, because it will be somewhere online somewhere offline if we are talking about the north, even there in the volyn, zhytomyr, rivne regions, where the border with

belarus is there, it will still be mostly online and similar elements and elements in life, because there is still an increase in danger, and that is where the focus should be on the armed forces in such territories. let's talk temporary housing is now being planned for ukrainians who have lost their permanent homes modular towns have already been built in five regions of ukraine this was reported by the deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine kyrylo tymoshenko in zaporizhzhya in kyiv, lviv, chernivtsi, and chernihiv regions, 20 townships with 453 houses have been built. internally displaced persons and those who lost their homes as a result of hostilities, in particular, in the lviv region, volunteer stanislav lutskevich is in charge of one of the projects to establish and resettle in such townships, and now he is with us stanislav , congratulations, stanislavich, can you hear us? good afternoon, congratulations once again, we see that you are now in

one of these modular towns of small houses, or rather even. can you give a tour and tell us what benefits of civilization can be obtained by those who were forced to leave their homes, this is our second quarter, which we are opening today, every house in ours is made in such a way that a family of four can live here, that is, you have two double beds , a table and - there is a kitchen area, there is a refrigerator, an air conditioner, that is, everything is thought out for a comfortable stay, there are all things at once, so that people can come even completely without any belongings and settle in like in a hotel room. look, this is a bathroom here, a boiler, a shower. in addition, we have a in our town, thanks to the help of donors, we have already developed a three-course meal, which is also

free for those who live here, and just today we will settle another 40 people. in the whole world, the us fund was the first to join this, then one large german company, and now this quarter . of data rooms - this is the company idls, that's the plan of the company, they help us and, uh, the cost of the house in our house is now in the region of 10,000 € , depending on the filling itself, depending on whether there is no communication, and we have plans to

build hundreds more of these houses all over ukraine, but mostly we are now in the western region , because it is safer here, mr. stanislava, the ukrainian facebook community is a well -known expert group on all issues, because it is safer here. yes, sometimes they write about the fact that why build such temporary housing, maybe it’s worth doing capital construction, so it’s a bit more expensive, but it’s capital, it’s of better quality. how would you answer this criticism? sphere. we are just helping people, that is, the period when there is no capital construction yet, that is, what we heard, probably with you, too, that the state promised everyone to completely rebuild, to provide capital housing, that is, until

it provides exactly 1.5-2 maybe even there we will be able to provide temporary housing for 2.5-3 years. it is very important that we have a period from receipt of funds to settlement - this is one month, so it is significantly faster than if we build capital because not all modern technologies guarantee this . unfortunately, the connection was interrupted in me and stanislav lyskovich, the project manager for the installation of modular buildings, but the main thing. to understand that the experience that was in georgia after 2008, when there were modular towns, even if they were more cemented, similar things. it is one thing when you have 100,000 internally displaced persons, another matter, kolomova is talking about millions. these

are completely different challenges and now such approaches are normal . it is really fast, this month is a very fast way to solve any capital construction, especially if there are many apartments, it is impossible in such a time, even if the country is not forced to spend a lion's share of money directly to the army, therefore they are clean. kudos to all those involved in such projects. let's talk about money. after the war, the reconstruction of ukraine will cost 190 billion dollars. this amount was named at the kyiv school of economics. now the country has begun operational recovery at the expense of the state budget , and with the support of partners, a plan for rapid recovery is already being implemented. recovery or fast recovery - the plan, the program developed by the project office of the presidential initiative involves large-scale construction and regional military administrations the reconstruction of infrastructure in the de-occupied territories with the application of the best world practices is a priority; residential buildings will be completely restored; they will also rebuild a part of schools , kindergartens, hospitals, etc., as reported by the deputy

head of the president's office, kryvyi tymoshenko, the budget of the fast recovery plan currently exceeds $17 billion in all territories liberated from russian occupation and is already underway tymoshenko declared restoration works in kharkiv region , more than 10 and a half objects in mykolaiv region were destroyed, more than 5 thousand of them, one and a half already restored in sumy region restored about 400 objects zaporizhzhia remains in a critical state, the region is regularly shelled, but despite this, restoration work is underway there under the threat of an ecological disaster of a global scale , the situation around the zaporizhzhia npp remains as of today, more than 3,715 objects have been destroyed in the region, the priority for restoration as before, the objects of the critical infrastructure of the heat, electricity, gas and water supply networks remain the primary efforts directed at the restoration of hospitals and educational institutions multi-apartment and private buildings, that is,

until the war is over, we will restore the critical infrastructure, we are not talking about all other buildings, well, of course, this is a priority , because until the war is over, and we do not understand what these numbers are, which even the cache indicates, i am because we understand that they are relevant approximately, right now we are sitting with you, they are relevant tomorrow, in fact, they are no longer relevant because there will be another shelling, similar things, plus the issue of migration, someone went abroad and plans to return someone is not planning. someone is planning to return conditionally from chernivtsi region to mykolaivka. someone is snowing. therefore, a full-scale restoration of everything is possible only after the active phase of the war is over. finger of the sky from the point of view of modeling, so even i would be very careful with the figures for the current moment for the recovery, although it is clear that there are some methods that are now really critical infrastructure is what is needed to ensure the

livelihood of these citizens who remain or return to the territory near the war zone, of course, somewhere calmer, for example, in the kyiv region, which was only under occupation, than in sumy, which is still periodically visited by flights to the territory, but nevertheless, people return, tell me and what to do with mariupol, for example, we do not know the full scale, but what the ukrainian authorities tell us is that the city is in fact destroyed and after the heating season the destruction will be even greater simply because there will be no heating season there, it will be infrastructure. yes, we understand physically due to frosts , even more will be destroyed. about cities like mariupol, of course the first step is de-occupation, like all other territories , subjectively taking into account the total destruction of everything there, including indeed the infrastructure, which is simply all cracking because there will be no heating it is easier to build nearby from scratch than to restore something that has been destroyed by 80-90%, that is, i am talking about the fact that

in such cases it is much more logical to build cities from scratch just nearby, and not to restore what was destroyed, apart from the infrastructure, the question of demining is a critical question of the infrastructure, are there any mine-like things there these are also huge problems in our country, demining continues anyway, there are victims there and in chernihiv oblast, kyiv oblast. and when we imagine that it will be about donetsk oblast, about kherson oblast, this is a huge problem. so i think that some mariupol, of course, it is easier to have a new mariupol, it is really a new unconquered ukrainians are very pleased with the help of western partners, but we will be even more pleased when the russian assets are already thawed and will go precisely to restore and rebuild everything that they destroyed without undue optimism, your personal opinion, are we close to the fact that it is russian money that will go to our economy is too optimistic. this is a long process. well, if it is too much, it is not enough as far as the frozen assets and their return to ukraine as reparations are concerned

so that some other way well, i rely on the official positions given by the ministry of justice, the ministry of justice says that it is still a long bureaucratic process, including the legal process, the father is there for two years, that is, to count on these funds now. i think it is not worth it, but it is worth counting here and now for that help shadow fight to the west from the west to stimulate them even more to give these crosses to use memorandums by countries by regions between cities similar things and here well, first of all, we need to achieve victory in the war and secondly here and now it is still so fast happens objectively because how would we send our partners, we must first understand that it's one thing when it's the united states and great britain where, after all, it all happens faster, it's another matter collectively, a bit not a partition and such a bureaucratized europe, er, it can be, unfortunately, years but of course ukraine will try to attract these funds as soon as possible for its recovery. congratulations

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