it is a structure complex mechanism and a tool for waging war and it is not by chance that they talk about information warfare and immediately raise the topic of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant in the hands of the kremlin - this is a weapon, not a civilian atom - this is not a civilian business entity - it is a weapon and the relationship to this object of this enterprise as a weapon, because when we say that putin has his and this clique, they have their own categories, their own, their own flow and non-apparatus, it is necessary to understand what they actually are relate to this object as to and not as a

civilian object if enterprises and so on. and there is a colossal danger in this, because there is a double interpretation of the interpretation, including the security council of the organization of the united nations , world leaders and regulatory bodies such as international ones such as magate and so on. the fact that this is outright blackmail. it is obvious that the next question arises. to what extent can the kremlin step in this regard? the fact is that uh, usually and traditionally and logically these persons are besides who speak falsely, they are also big cowards because in this story you need to understand that not only

nuclear weapons. blackmail, i can’t call it any other way, it’s just lying blackmail with talks about switching the electricity supply, turning off uh, using some uh, uh, emergency strike mechanisms, and so on, this is an attempt not so much to influence the course of the war as to blackmail not only ukrainians and the whole world adapting it to your own conceptual apparatus, your understanding, well, you understand, when you watch the meeting of the security council and listen to these representatives of the russian federation, you are well aware that you are dealing with some kind of head-hundreds, and you

feel ashamed in front of the fact that these people are among in the environment of absolutely decent sensible people who understand what we are talking about and uh, this would be the ultimate talking about white-black on black- white. not realizing how it can end , including for russia itself, it is very it is dangerous and here, for example, it is obvious to me that the issue is not only with russia, with russia with the kremlin , everything is clear. united efforts and not only supplying the ukrainians with armaments, ammunition technology, and so on, but also

unifying the army, and here we must talk not about two , not about three, but about the necessity of the fronts, which is possible as soon as possible with his with idiotic dreams, and strangling in another way is what is being discussed there, using the threats of the zaporozhye nuclear plant before that of chernobyl, it can become a reality because these are not exactly people, as i say, and therefore they cannot be fully responsible for their words and actions in reality because they don't realize the whole tragedy of the situation, well, mr. serhiy, the actions have led to the fact that, as the secretary general of the united nations organization, antonio otelish, absolutely rightly states, more than 500 billion people are in the state

in a state of malnutrition and even hunger, and to realize this , uh, all these kremlin scumbags are the whole clique, they simply do not have the level of intelligence to realize what this idiotic dream led to, their restoration of the empire called the soviet union , regarding the lack of a corresponding reaction of the world, he spoke yesterday and volodymyr zelenskyi at the second meeting of the crimean platform, he said that there can be no talks about negotiations , because the aggressor country is acting, which indicates that they do not need negotiations, let's hear of the president, what is going on? what is going on while there are negotiations ? there can be no war exclusively on the

territory of ukraine. they came to us and killed only citizens of ukraine. ukrainian citizens are excluded . with herbs , murders and violence, he tells everyone to us and you that they do not see any negotiations except for these ones. they don’t think at all and never thought they

made the decision to occupy our country, it’s necessary as in the 14th year they made this decision and the peace didn’t give them a good blow but it didn’t give them they went further and further and further and we give them a blow there was a wonderful speech from it was zelensky's answer, it was an answer to the question of the al-arabi correspondent, that's why zelensky spoke in russian. roman , why did the world swallow the annexation of crimea so easily in the 14th year ? soviet union and the dreams of the world that in the end the moment has come that war will not be a tool, a

large-scale war will not be a tool for clarifying relations and the third stage of the so-called convergence , do you remember this word used if the convergence of systems, then only in such dreamed-of -e things in such romantic views could be expected from er-e any of the participants in this process similar actions, you know. so when you talk about this topic, i immediately remember this er-e overnight stay of the president of russia on the way home at rancho in the president of the younger bush there in texas a-a well, from the point of view of the current situation, to let the enemy into the house, we understand what we are talking about in this situation. therefore, it is obvious that a-a after long, long wars

, after the tragedy of the second world war, what a-a took more than 80 million lives, and after the protracted cold war and the colossal economic failures and losses of several crises that hit the whole world , including the right of the united states and europe and the soviet union, there is an understanding that it is possible somehow in this world to fold who would minimize the use of war as an instrument of his explanation of relations, and it is obvious that this romanticism gave rise to what we have today when these dreams, this romanticism, it simply became, as it were, a kind of fog in

eyes and everyone stopped er-er orienting what russia really is, and only there, somewhere in the great bookmark of the library, were the works of famous er-er historians , philosophers, and politicians who talked about the fact that the heartland is the heartland and sooner or later, the essence of evil will always manifest and therefore starting there from nagorno-karabakh, transnistria, georgia, ukraine in 2014, the world did not just react sluggishly, but individual states and individual politicians played along.

they destroyed whole cities with people and then rebuilt them, they said to see what a good job we are doing, but today today i don't know if you have already seen this message of congratulations from the self-proclaimed president of belarus lukashenka happy independence day to the people of ukraine on his website. he is convinced that today's contradictions will not be able to destroy the age-old foundation of sincere good-neighborly relations between the peoples of the two countries. in the future, belarus will continue to advocate for the preservation of harmony , the development of friendly and respectful contacts at all levels, the same is written on the website. what about the new president of the republic of belarus, well, since mr. roman, you know lukashenko very well and the republic of belarus in general, you were authorized there and

ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine, how do you perceive this wagging? well, i don’t know, it’s not wagging the tail, it’s rather cynicism of the highest degree, which lukashenko is currently demonstrating, acting as a co-author of this russian-ukrainian war and actually an accomplice of vladimir putin, at the same time he says well, we are a little bombed there, russian planes took off from our airfields, but there is friendship between our countries, when you said about this greeting, i see it, the first thing that came to mind is the phrase by andriy danylka, which you remember in the reprise sounds like the train goes - it climbs. well, in fact, this train is from the russian-ukrainian war. it is learning at a high

speed. it has already uprooted lukashenka and belarus a long time ago, and in the current situation it will uplift the region and the continent and the world if the world is not takes the necessary necessary steps, but the thing is that lukashenko, even with this syndrome of the head of the collective farm, is trying to get into any situation, including that with this greeting, well, what a greeting the fact is that from the point of view of international law, ukraine and belarus are in the last wars lukashenko, satellite, satellite of the kremlin, no matter how they analyzed me, they did not analyze the situation, and it depends only on the political will of the ukrainian political leadership that ukraine does not strike today on the territory of the republic of belarus and on

military facilities, airfields, other training grounds where it is located russian troops, belarusian troops, and so on from the territory of which state we receive shelling every day, so everything is clear here. of the soviet head of the collective farm, with whom the self- proclaimed dictator of the republic of belarus lives and works. here , in continuation of the topic of the world's reaction to such things, i can remind one more time that this tragedy of the belarusian people has been going on for almost 30 years, and this is in the center of europe. it is necessary to clearly

realize that on today, belarus is a bridgehead of the kremlin's threat to, first of all, the scandinavian states, the baltic states, the northern states of europe, and this is the bridgehead that must be eliminated as the kremlin's bridgehead. in another case, not depending on how the situation on the russian-ukrainian front will develop, this bridgehead does not in itself pose a threat to europe, and it is strange that in most of the final documents, nato itself noted this, but when today there is a conversation about the need to put full stop in this matter, if everyone slows down, they slow down, not realizing that such bridgeheads as crimea and belarus are

necessary prerequisites for the kremlin's capitulation and victory over the kremlin. well, maybe ukraine should show an example of how to talk to belarus in general, and since it is still an independent state de jure, and we continue diplomatic relations with belarusians, why are these relations not broken, mr. sergey, it is strange to me that until now these diplomatic relations are maintained . well, in some cases, it looks a little comical because ukraine broke diplomatic relations with north korea, but with the state from whose territory the shelling is conducted, whose troops perform tactical tasks on the border, and whose resources are used against ukraine, and

whose self-proclaimed dictator makes statements including and similar to what was announced today, we actually have diplomatic relations from the point of view of international law and the convention on international treaties, and similar actions mean that even bilateral agreements are not valid between our states, because the requirements of the convention on international treaties state that if 101 parties commit actions that do not allow this mechanism to work, then this means that such agreements are terminated, it is obvious that today the actions of lukashenka, his satraps, his clinics have actually destroyed the entire the system of bilateral agreements, bilateral treaties, they were in a formal status and in fact in a state of war, now about that the formal

and actual status of the independence of belarus belarus and you is no different from the fact that today there is crimea, it is an occupied territory, only crimea is a part of ukraine occupied by russia, and belarus - this is a state occupied by russia, and if you think about it like that, let's say lukashenko is equal to axion, that's absolutely not a creature from the point of view of their status, and management of these management of these territories, and the kremlin looks at both crimea and belarus simply as a resource, as a platform, as a bridgehead, one poses a threat to the mediterranean, the other to the baltic world, but these are simply platforms for threats, platforms, potential platforms for striking europe, the only thing that these two platforms in the military tactics of the kremlin

are uniting too and they are performing the function of striking ukraine on the parapet a, mr. romana thank you for the conversation, forgive me that due to air alarms our conversation lasted a little less than usually thank you for the conversation i wish you good health and once again happy independence day it was a novel immortal as a diplomat former ambassador of ukraine to the republic of belarus it was a verdict program under serhiy rudenko then our telethon continues we will meet you tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. once again, happy independence day to all of you and your family. goodbye.

i welcome you to espressovat khrystyna yatskiv and to the independence day of ukraine. my colleagues and i have prepared for you a series of interviews with extraordinary people. today we will have the opportunity to talk with yulia paevska the most legendary person, as far as i'm concerned , now a person, with a person for whom the war did not begin on february 24, for whom it began earlier and for whom it has already been crowned with an absolutely incredible and extremely difficult experience, we will talk about what is independence, we will talk about what victory is and what it might look like for yulia and yulia. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. congratulations to the heroes. glory to the heroes. some of my questions may seem a bit banal to you today. but nevertheless, when we ask them

to our guests, and their answers give us a very clear understanding of the extent to which people, our fellow citizens , see these or other things differently, nevertheless, each in their own way and each is absolutely unique, and the first questions are what does independence mean to you, freedom e- to choose one's destiny and freedom to decide how to live on. those who were deprived of freedom understand well what a great value it is. well, they say that ukrainian independence is 31 years old, but we are a very freedom-loving people and even when we were under pressure, so under totalitarianism regime still managed to preserve some internal freedom. do you think that ukraine as a state is now

completely independent in the context of the things you are talking about? do you think that in the current world no state is completely independent because we exist in communication with each other and only those those who go against the whole world get isolation from this world, and of course the problem is that the russian federation is completely independent and completely isolated, it would be good for the world to eventually become independent from it. okay, what about me, colleagues? i was reminded of your diaries from 2014 and there is such a phrase, they say that every generation must have its own war, er, i can note that some of the ukrainians er, um, if i think that what we are experiencing now

is a consequence of the incompleteness of some previous ones there generations of ukrainians yes and i am not a supporter of this opinion, nevertheless i understand that at this stage of our development we could be better than we are a better version of ourselves a-and nevertheless i am frightened by the phrase i just said about because i i also have a child and i am afraid to imagine what is in my child or my grandchildren may get a new wave of confrontation and war, but every generation must have its own war does this mean that the war for ukraine never ends it just moves sinusoidally like a wave i think that we now have a chance to end this war that has been going on for more than 300 years and so so that our children and grandchildren are no longer forced to continue, i know well what war is and

no single person, and of course i would not want such a fate for my child, and each generation must have its own war, well let's hope that future wars there will be some sort of er artistic some er competition, i would dream about it, that is, that it would not be about blood and murder, but that it would be some kind of healthy competition between healthy countries or sports, okay. i really dream about this, about such a future for my countries well, of course, in order not to pass this problem on to our descendants in the end, we need to be

very clearly aware of what is our enemy, who is our enemy, and what is the correct portrait of our enemy. and do you have experience communicating with these people, what is the collective portrait? russian who came to our earth and there somehow justifies his presence here to the extent that they themselves believe in what they are talking about propaganda in the context of the justification of the need for some kind of war here in ukraine now i think that they are just trying to find some reason to whitewash themselves in in their own eyes due to the fact that they feel that they are doing unfairly, their actions eh, to put it mildly,

not human, hm, eh, there are many things a person can do in order to justify his dishonesty , his injustice, his actions, which they have already done it, and the further they move in that direction, the more and more as a snowman for these glorified crimes, i would prefer that propaganda in russian society would end and people would understand themselves and not repeat the narratives that are constantly plain to them from every iron from every corner they tell about some mythical people from bandera, about fascists, nazis, and all this is, to put it mildly

, untrue. i think that they are afraid of the future and because of this they are trying more and more to impose their will. they would like the whole world has designated their crimes as feats, they want to be proud of what they do, but unfortunately, this is very far from any noble actions, the bottom line is still an effort to do something good about er people, a person there wants to be er worthy, wants to be proud of what she does it's just that the russians change the concept and replace the concept of

nobility with things that are not such and such that they are such that if you turn off the propaganda, they will change and become adequate and you can sing with them. i think that this disease is not in an incurable stage in some people. but maybe there are those who are still subject to treatment, again, if you turn it off propaganda , the consequences will continue for years, perhaps the 10th anniversary , due to the fact that this whole story has been going on for too long, even during the soviet union, it was possible to notice the humiliating of other peoples besides russia,

that is, all these anecdotes about the khokhli about the chukchi about the caucasians, that’s a joke, then i had it 30 years ago, not even 50, and it’s much more than that, and the problem is that russia follows experience and propagates and continues to carry the same narratives, only already using modern means of influencing consciousness, that is, their propaganda is the cause of their imperialism and chauvinism, or even if warism is imperialism? and you know this is like the bone marrow, a part of the body, and it is very important, it gives birth to propaganda.

ideas and spins the same narratives and popularizes them in society. hmm, maybe we should oppose the counter propaganda of this influx, because i am a serious weapon. i think that sometimes it kills no worse than iron, and there is another important topic. very important. this is a story about the ability of ukrainians to save their lives during battles after battles. unfortunately, unfortunately, i came across the testimonies of our fighters who note that the level of training in the sense of tactical medicine of our defenders at the beginning of a large-scale invasion was insufficient. may have heard the word turnstile for the first time in his life on february 24, but this