to other kingdoms, because the polish and lithuanian principalities, then our period of the cossacks, so even though we were also a political nation, in essence things were common, we elected their common king at the diets, not theirs, our common king, we chose our own common laws, then the cossack state and eventually the cossack state disappears in 1782 and after, a small period of 100 years of serfdom and decline begins, that is, our statehood actually declines strongly only in the 19th century, typical of all european states when empires begin overcoats answering the questions in principle there are no analogies, we were not scattered. so we always had our own state, we were on our own land and so we had an identity, no matter how the circumstances of our life turned out. i understand correctly. please tell me the circumstances now, this is the last year by the way, we are celebrating independence for the first time, that is, already in

the conditions of such a full-scale war, yes, for 8 years, yes, in the conditions of a full-scale war, when it seems that up to 10 or even more than 10 million citizens have now left ukraine why the war what what happened, what did they make it possible or else , uh, in a different way, i will ask the question: what did we not do or what did we do in 30 years to allow this to happen ? by the way, if you ask which state, well, judea was one kingdom, israel was another. it was two states. yes, and you also see a good question, by the way, contacts with other peoples that simply disappeared because, well, religion really played a big factor here, but in principle, nationalism on the concept of myths and so on are really built on biblical components and we know from then on they ask we are from christianity what is the promised land our territory we lived the mission of our people it is like that, that is, its

commandments cultural features we know that a few scots have never gone. this is a completely modern invention of the 18th century . it is definitely like uh -e-e plans that fell over. life in our country is strong, such a strong myth, what would it be? and now why don’t they accuse you of elitism without an elite of cultural tragers, some created the state budget , i absolutely believe the same, i absolutely did not accuse you of anything. they tell everyone so that not everyone offends them, humanity invented 5,000 for its history, so there are who are chosen, you understand in the bible, if you have already remembered yes, yes, well, the hymn and the plural of the form, only the versions, as far as it came in this form. so here vitya really it's hard about the war i say let's let's finish the cupro-elite and here it is the ukrainian

elite so who is the ukrainian elite now in modern ukraine who is the summer there is absolutely an absurd version on the internet but it is often replicated that the elite tribe has a very cool origin it means sparti it was that if you fall down on the battlefield, it is not a count, but on a shield, how did our children accept it? everyone understands that it was raised by the french elite . there are some criteria to consider the elite as a human being. well, actually, the second question. after that, i think that now i will also be a provocation that people who are engaged in cultural , intellectual and so on activities are not because they have not established themselves anywhere, but because of a sense of internal motivation and the need for something the moment of self-sacrifice can also be traced. by the way, it is consecrated by various religious traditions, including udaism, the truth is that they are people who work for some common idea, who produce meanings in order, i will say very rudely, to serve this idea circulate expand why in no case do they

resort to you just with historians ca n't help but remember you know presentism when we think everything is conducted retrospectively submodern it 's called flinstonization you know the cartoon about flintstone when they are like the stone age but they live like we do here with tv they run anything and everything, and by the way, i am a supporter, after all, from the direction of the spirit of principled discussions about the concert of the state of the elite and all that, there are two contradictory legs, such as the richelieu school, while skinner and this one have a bacriz font and its german, which says that there is a concept of the elite yes, it has always been one conditionally , yes, but there is a cambrian school that says no , hello, it all depends on the context, who was there when, where, yes, and summer. these were those who conveyed the meaning, those who multiplied the meanings , changed them, and with this, ukrainian history too yes, history can boast, but modernity, can ukrainian modernity boast that we have people who create and multiply, well, and probably spread at the same time, such modesty is accepted in ukrainian, what combines in scandinavia, you know such laws, yante scandinavian to the norwegian type, i don't think you

're cooler than everyone else, you're like us, but you can do something a little extra, they're like that tick-tick well, we're not sorry russians where does everyone think it's something, look, i'm gentlemen i don't ask to name surnames or names yes, i uh, i think they insisted yes no no no no tell me who just well description yes no don't name the name and the name tell me what it looks like it's already a mistake how are we still here to put a philosopher yes philosophers would say that the concept remember- remember for our audience in the 90s, the elite was designated for for most people, a person who wears a jacket of a certain color is absolutely yes, and this is true. lately, the word elite is almost swearing. actually, who do we call elite? we still need to understand philosophically. is it really summer? in blue jeans in 2000. is it the elite that produces something and creates a species of

produces and creates corridors of ethical behavior or, for example, obtaining the ethics of the state and politics is created at least preserves culture by multiplying preserves culture and cultural norms, yes, actually, you know . maybe, but here there are also nuances, too, you know, in victorian england, women were advised to wear thin gloves at night, seeing that she suddenly did not touch a man’s head . what is it there with your bare hands? what are these cultural effects? we are now watching says god, what a delusional truth, but certain historical periods it was as if it were its own yes, i agree. by the way , i will say one word, we have a liquid in ukraine that is absolutely psychedelic, you know, i know, in the principle of omniscientism, there are two types of research we analyze the term that he marked is a phenomenon and then its designation appears the term is two principles, semantics anathology in march is suitable

neighbors, old neighbors, or what happened, i say worthy neighbors to snort, yes, how can we now look through the context, how they get into the eyes, it has been a long time since it was good, students use such a word, the elite, you know how many cages with subtle organic connotations, you know what is in galya supermarkets, where we have the elite, this is elite alcohol, it’s so clear, you give how much we mark different things, where, when leaving, i say what the word can mean . hello, yes, the mark is there. thank you somewhere , sosyuri . according to the results of their activities according to the fruits of their yes, already the line. well, yes, i will learn what to list the evaluation of these activities. an anti-hero, according to the summer, for the ruling class, which has the basis of inadequate behavior in the sphere of

state leadership, there is corruption , corrupt courts, for them, the elite is clearly the one who is next to them, according to the degree of this elite, for example, in north korea, the elite is one thing, in moscow, the elite is something else and the hermitage and the kremlin are two different elites. although they say the same dogs who called the special operation special operation and absolutely absolutely ah well, gentlemen, we can talk about it, i already understood that for a long time come on, why is there a war? now, in the 31st year , we have a full-scale invasion of half of the country. russian rockets, tanks, and artillery were destroyed there. bucha gostomel was raped and killed. and in general, genocide, is it our fault ? so that we can now talk about terms, continue the topic of terms, they will come to evaluate, there are such ones, we like a lot of anglicisms, well

, they just spread over the age of those lemmings, and those who do not know english understand the bell because she is guilty of the fact that she i won't live like this. i put on tights and a short skirt. yes, yes, i have to stay at home at night and in general. well, i'd rather go here from the course where in ukraine. let's say that there were miscalculations before the war . do you understand the provocations? i can’t go into history. i’ll tell you about a psychological moment that is working very well in ukraine right now. a group of university scientists was there. gustin gustin was the leader of the group there. they gave the students to read simple things like the history is encrypted well, for example, yes , now i will change to the ukrainian context lesya walked all day in lviv there, there were very crowded streets, they admired the architecture, and then the saddest of them was a wallet of a building of this type or a sentence there that someone there vasyl went for a ride just resting in

bukovel broke his leg so in one word then they gave them tasks there answered and then asked with which stories what phrases are related and it is interesting that people despite the fact that the sentence does not indicate what happened to lesya, what happened, they mentioned the association, the cause of the consequential connection, the pickpockets stole more than the direct written words of the beauty of lviv, they walked and so on, why is it called spontaneous establishment, the reason for the festive connections, we are all like that we hear stories and we better remember that story where they hint to us that there might be a reason , sometimes they just wrote the direct reason there, vasyl broke his leg because he was snowboarding there, no, well, he couldn't, that's it, we 'd better go, but why? to impose on a retrospective study we are not going to lick away from this good yes, but we need to see that now many of us have seen through and in the background there are others who always said that we need more ukrainian from the soviet, let's say goodbye well, that was a lot and it was a miscalculation, the truth i i say the first thing really. well, we treated ukrainian national

identity, they are. well, let it be taken for granted. those years, well, i am for sure i remember that it is possible in western ukraine and all-ukrainian was considered so rural , you understand, and this and this attitude was total, let's talk with you. i support the price of zabuzhka, who said that until cancel kartchenko, cancel the russians and so on, he says nothing, let's bet in quarantine, in order to get to know ourselves better, we should have been interested in our own . well, what about the scientific field, then i would say to myself to study there. in oxford, to teach at the european university there, anyway, there are even decent students from the moscow region, it will be cool because he defended the march in russian if you think about it, well, especially in political science there or international relations, well, please, we can see the result on the face of the russian foreign

policy education of all kinds. he said that there was no critical analysis of the soviet past before him. it was different. the second one was not an investment . there was work on our colonial heritage, our internal colonialism, what do we want to add just the day before, mrs. ulyana suprun wrote on her twitter that there was no nuremberg for communism, there was no nuremberg trial, that is, communism was not convicted, it was not punished. then it should be the belarusians and say, well, this is ours, this is it. it had to happen in russia, after all, i now take this position: everything that should have happened in russia one day may happen in them too. it may happen to us, let it be a difference. they do whatever they want, they rot. i'm honest. that's the second truth. it's not like we're sitting here condemning moscow and nuremberg after the victory. now, look

, the question is just mr. oleksandr. what do you think, in 1991, the communist party should have been banned? and in general communist ideology i understand that it would be unlikely and it never happened i will just say now we often pay attention to nuremberg but it is just a historical president who happened to condemn nazism so simply after the war right away not everyone was executed there, a few people were released i apologize nuremberg - this is not punishment - this is justice, this is the first , second, is it about the elites, is it really about the moscow elites? yes, this war is the result of the actions of the moscow elites, the people in the russian empire. is this also in russia or of actions in ukraine, the muscovite empire, the russian empire, the muscovite kingdom in russian, pereselskogo - this is the empire, this is the same empire with the same set of mentalities, for the people are slaves, that is,

those who do not have property, in greek the term slave is deprived of property and not independent. serfs are collective farm workers, they are people without property, they are serfs who think only as their master tells them. and here, imagine all of them. oh, and here is the science. really, that muscovite who studied at oxford and he is an associate professor there or something will be from russia, from the metropolis. this is one thing, yes, but let's remember that these are all the examples that we and they have been throwing around for many years. that, for example, moscow fought for access to the sea. ivan the terrible to the sea. yes, peter pan was the first to go to the sea . they wanted to show that there was columbus who was looking for new geographical routes. yes, they also go to the sea. and i have a question, why do 99% of the population use silk underpants, mirrors and perfumes, this is only a war in order to besiege the top, which has more than the precious collection of its raw materials that they haul , you understand, the same thing, and the disposable oil pipe,

do you understand that in russia there are two types of moldy cheese from abroad, and that fresh cheese that is simply made in their village and it is moldy there because there is propolis, so they swelled up and they already have lilies, they are already leaders of war, they are the lord, they are the masters, they feed yes, from the hands of this people and that is why they are here today and that is why today they are here destroying their own people because this is the empire and this empire has been decaying since 1917. that is, we are now participating in the average collapse of the empire. victory for ukraine , victory will be as the historian maksym said, emphasizing that history is cyclical, if in this corner of europe there are states, peoples who have their own mentality, their behavior traits are so similar, and if we are talking about tourism, because these mental behaviors are the same for hundreds of years, and if we restore

the border to the 91st year, we will not win because there will be a mentality that will strive for a shepherd in us, that is, whether there will be victory now is an open question. i understand correctly because we have not yet decided what victory is. to the terminology , the victory of ukraine is to the east of us, you see several states of the former russian empire, that is, the collapse of the dismemberment of russia. this is how it becomes, here is a very good topic. from my circle and with whom we communicate, schools of political elites, we even conduct a project on russia from a political point of view, already materials in tatarstan in general about national movements in russia, because this is an important topic yes, but as colleagues who do not believe that if russia falls apart, it there will be 20 states that are aggressive towards ukraine. there are those who believe in this. i do not support this point of view. silent on a real case from frankfurt am main of a young prosecutor, it is already the late

50s and 60s, and what is going on is that a frightened woman comes and says this man is a certain man there, he was a concentration camp supervisor, and now it is a conditional case. and he is a kindergarten teacher there is there someone working with him, nothing happened to you, that the cleaning in germany began after the new generation, parents asked dad, mom, and what did you do after that? it was an internal german process. such a term will be sent to the point that they will start the process of cleaning up renewal in ukraine from the inside before processing our imperial past because i will not be an example that once impressed me very much during my student years at oxford, this is the second time you mention that i was the secretary of the ukrainian boxing university society there and the russian language was very active, and the russian language was invited to viktor suvorov. well, how could i not see viktor suvorov live? it was very interesting to listen to the lecture, to listen to the textbooks, to record them, to record them, and in line to sign them. autograph, and during the lecture at the end, he said something there during his lifetime, the castles of the world , by the way, he then and it was 2006, announced that he was not allowed to teach his version of the causes of world

war ii there he said that he sent a request to russia, can he enter, he was told no, that criminal cases, he says, i appealed to the verkhovna rada and something, when he started to answer, someone interrupted. another question, can he enter ukraine ? he is already from here. story yes, i'm there i don't remember how to swim there and i say, but they were in russian, what did they say? he says, " how do you understand there? come , he signed the disk and answers something like this, you know. well, there they told me that i should send a request to moscow but i read myself and i think as much as possible in the elder brother they bow and this is a spark yes where in ukraine was laid in such people a moment, well, such a conditionally yes, this is our internal what i called decolonization, what is in the nyurbs in russia, ours okay, this is our inner workings are inner decommunization, so it was very successful. i don't know what he thinks about this war. i wasn't interested in you. that's the character i'm interested in, but

you understand. as a graduate student, seeing such a person live was cool. and it struck me that there are sparks that we can scatter independent, and then they can fly to the russians, because now when we talk, you understand that for them this is imperial, that for him, well, russian is all great tolstoy, all together yes, without this pushkin tolstoy dostoyevsky, once an american told me how he loved russian culture says pushkin, tolstoy , dostoyevsky, lenin, kildsar, and on intensivin and this story, too, he likes, i say and what have you read about well, of that pushkin, tolstoy dostoyevsky, he says, and on kranin, i speak, i read, he says no and all the new ones, he hasn’t seen the movie well, everything is fine and russian culture yes and look a-a we found out what a-a victory can only be me right if i now re-chosen your words please correct me victory can only be when one of you to the east of us said there will be three or four or

maybe it could be five or six, we won't play atlas look, it has to be collapse, it has to be chaos, is it possible to dismantle it, for example? well , they themselves, they themselves say that they are afraid, you understand. look, russia has it. i'm talking about russia and about russians that were formed after 1991, where there is a share of ukrainians who are also now involved in the political elites of the russian federation. that is, this is a people that was formed politically now, so they have a fear of an external enemy, such as nato or ukraine from behind, and that they want a russian every they will say that they want russia to disintegrate, it is at the level of a defendant, they have this, these nails, funtik, that russia they have this enemy, for example, they have another enemy, for example, personal mazepa, mazepintsi, petliura, such commanders, that’s how they are afraid that they will unravel. this is what they have on at the mental level, how should we act, our troops, may god give them health, happiness and be alive and beat the enemy, they go to the border by the 91st year,

then further actions that can be what to do to stand on the border of the first century - let me just historically eh situation huge russian the empire is the beginning of the 20th century. they lose a small war to japan and the hold begins to fall apart. i look at it until 25.06. then in 917, they can’t stand it psychologically, because they lost it. first , secondly, russia is a classic empire. all empires are falling apart. the british, well done, made a new architecture. the russian empire did not fall apart. why is she, why is she lying with these corpses, and here she is, so that the british are now making a new architecture. they haven’t done it yet in the process. the russian empire, you know, it is falling apart, it froze in the ussr, it collapsed, it froze in september why does it take so long to disintegrate because there are european empires, english, british, french, german, austrian. it is either an empire that has metropolises on the small

european continent, and overseas colonies , and that is why the metropolis exploded, the colony left here, the metropolis exploded and the bolsheviks began. his state, and that's why when napoleon came to you and he and the russians burned it down, he saw it and is watching and what should i do next with this empire, walk 10,000 km through the forests on the tundra, what's there and you understand why this one will disintegrate for a long time, but its legal moments are historically because it will disintegrate. because when the empire stops fighting, the peoples who live in it will ask why should i listen to patriarch gundyaev in dagestan in a single language that is generally understandable. with the russian version in paradise, he communicates in russian, well, tatar chechen is also allowed now, so here we are

approaching the end of our conversation in a new way, i really don’t want to do this because i would still be with you i would say and i say seriously , in general, there would be something else on the table, it would be more fun, but look, it is more difficult to win in this war or after the war, what awaits us after the war after russia loses and i have no doubt that she will lose and i think that ukraine will win. none of us has any doubts. i will allow myself to remark that the setting of such a question drives us a little into the ukrainian beloved longing , sadness, confusion, on demand, and so on. not without this, i wrote this question with this in mind. this question is now just a topic bulgakov greetings to everyone right now in the air is heavy, the years are coming. and you will be others coming, yes. no, it’s also sad. yes, it will definitely be better, because nothing will fly. you can do what we are already planning and doing with the reconstruction of the ukrainian state . where is one bek better so that there is no savka already

excuse me because it has to be finished, yes, not in architecture, not in urban planning, yes , that is, zelensky, that all the panels should be demolished yes, i am not an urban planner, honestly, i am now i'll tell you here on camera, you can't calculate what to change, how does the environment, in principle, affect thinking, i'll say yes, okay , yes, well, what about architectural circumstances? well, the only thing we know well, yes. with the nature of green but she solves problems better than if she sits even in the classrooms or walks around the premises, this is clear. therefore, the first is to repel better than it was before, and the second is to understand that russia is close to victory, a small comment from me even when they asked on the air that the belarusian people's republic of belgorod can help it. let's go there. i put no more to the military plan . they support themselves, yes, that is, they are the first

to build better than it was before, they work on the mistakes of all the dissected soviets , the etchant to rebuild the way it was, and then you can do the most important thing, well, the construction of our meanings, yes, that is, i found resistance ukrainian identity yes, i'm sorry. well, we must finally give up all sharavarshchyna, that's what it is. yes, this is the moment to declare yourself in the world. ukraine will become a center of security for many. well, it's definitely earlier. when you remember nato membership, ukraine , the senate, you protect each other. take me, they protect me, she says dearly, so the fact is that each other now, ukraine is a partner in any defense alliance, we know how, we work hard with blood, our armed forces. i also supported them. it is not left as it is suggested very briefly, if you could imagine that this broadcast will be saved somewhere, and you and i will be watched there in 100 years, or maybe in 200. what would you advise the descendants to do or what not to do , literally one thing, maybe two, i would advise

knowing that after the victory, ukraine will develop the space industry, and we realized that we are not living in the situation when they are fighting for territory, but fighting for transnational capital corporations fighting for space, you are right, because our descendants will continue to develop of space and not so much stop at this galaxy, go further and carry the ukrainian language. by the way, i just don’t know how to give better advice about galaxies. honestly, you thought you were spitting on me to be international. what does it mean for a ukrainian ? stay and remain a person, but an international comes, you think, wow, a ukrainian is cool, a ukrainian is a person who is comfortable everywhere, he remains himself, but at the same time, he is a specialist of such a level in his field, so simple with my presence for any thais you know i say wow ukraine here absolutely gentlemen i thank you mr. maksym mr. oleksandr and i congratulate

you on the 31st anniversary of ukrainian independence we lived perhaps i am sure of this it was very nice to talk with you i think that see you again well, to those who watched us, i remind you that this is a marathon on the air, the only news, the information service of inter, and my guest is oleksiy fadeev, there was maksym yakovlev, the head of the department of international relations, the director of the school of political analysis of the kyiv-mohyla academy and oleksandr alhora alfyorov excuse me, historian, and that's how three people with the surnames alfyorov fadeev ot and maksym yakovlev talked about ukraine i think you were just as interested as we were see you well see the project to find your kateryna osadchai from the search for the missing to monday at 9:30 p.m. independence is the right to

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