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oleksandr udovichenko last spoke with his brother serhiy in march, the war caught him in the kharkiv region, where he worked as a farmer, when the village was occupied by the russian military, the man realized that he would not be able to leave. one day, three soldiers of the russian federation came to serhiy's yard and took him and two other men nobody saw serhiy anymore, and his brother says that in the temporarily occupied part of the kharkiv region, such abductions of men are not uncommon . region, it was the year 86, and in the year 87, my brother serhiy dyachenko was born there, that is, in his passport, the place of birth of the city of orgskrenburg region, well, his passport was already issued in the city of lozova, a passport of a citizen of ukraine, he lived in the village of bayrak, balakliya district in the kharkiv region, he worked there as a child in an agrarian farm
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, he was an agronomist since 2021, and in february he went to this village to prepare for the new season. the russian military entered this village and created a buffer zone from this village because well, if you look at the map, balaklia is on one side, the seversky unit of the barracks is on the other side, they are connected by a bridge, and if this bridge is strategic, can you get to the other side from it? go through siversky denys, the shelling began. to do and it so happened that he started waiting in this village somewhere on march 19, we chatted with him for the last time in the evening, and he planned to
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leave the village on march 20, on the fourth of april. some kind of young man similar to what was described, the russians took the brother, three soldiers came to the brother's yard, took him, gave him two flasks of water, said apply it, he says far away, carry it, but the grandmother is alone, what kind of neighbor is there , she says, uh, guys, what are you doing, where are you taking them , they say you won't see them again, so go ahead, don't bother, then the neighbor came into the house , he saw that the passport, driver's license, and the phone were in the house, that is, they didn't take my brother's documents when they took him from them . well, i don't know the task or the point
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if you have to look for partisans, branches, and people who help our armed forces, his position was pro-ukrainian. it's just that he and i were talking, as i say. listen, be quiet there. you do understand that there are armed people around you, armed people . men and boys disappeared, well, very often. my opinion is that he was taken to russia. well, kharkiv oblast, er, it borders the russian federation in the north, er, this is belohorodsk, kursk, bryansk oblast, procedures, how to look for civilians who were forcibly taken away by the invaders, today they are not in russia no hmm, it doesn't show, that is, they understand that they can show prisoners of war, but they don't show civilians, they hide this information
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somehow. they won't publish it. canada intends to return five more turbines for the russian gas pipeline nord stream 1 to germany which remained under repair in montreal, this was announced by the head of the canadian foreign ministry, melanie joly. according to her, such a step will not give excuses for the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin , to blackmail europe with gas supplies. six turbines for the northern stream one that was repaired in canada was not previously returned to russia due to the sanctions introduced by the canadian government against the russian federation, but later one of the turbines manufactured by siemens was transferred not to russia but to germany, but russian gazprom did not take it away ms. ambassador of ukraine to canada yulia kovaliv again called on canada to cancel the waiver of sanctions. this is reported by the cbc channel. in her opinion,
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gazprom will not take these five turbines further. quote: our position is quite clear. we really believe that this waiver from sanctions are needed and now if the argument was to expose black putin, then everyone has seen for the past few weeks now that it is quite obvious that these are russian games end of the quote about why canada makes an exception to its own sanctions, let's talk further with us, andriy shevchenko, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine in canada 2015-2021 good evening good health well, for a start, let's find out a what prevents gazprom from restoring gas transit through the nord stream 1 lack of turbines or maybe something else does not prevent anything except that russia continues what it has been doing for the past decades, this is gas blackmail of europe. i think that the current ambassador of ukraine to canada, yulia kovaliv , is absolutely right in her assessments, and i think that she is
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right in form, clearly pointing out to the cable people their mistake, this is another series in a series, this is a series of mistakes by the canadian government and my submission that this is not the last series canada will have to admit its mistake and reconsider its decision regarding these turbines now it is absolutely obvious that this mistake works in favor of russia and to the detriment of canada and to the detriment of the democratic world. well, let's go back to this a bit. in more detail, i will remind you that the other day , german chancellor olaf scholz was in canada and there , together with the prime minister, they talked about the return of these turbines, among other things, let's listen and then return to the discussion. russia wants to find ways or blame for breach of
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contract they blame canada and external factors but we have demonstrated by returning these turbines that the only one who is to blame for causing the energy crisis we have faced is myself vladimir putin, we will not allow him to use energy carriers as a weapon of war, what is russia doing? this is a division between nations, a division between allies, a division among those who support ukraine , and in this it will never succeed, never. that is why we are very grateful for the decision of the canadian government, but as you can see from what i told you we are working hard to become independent from gas supplies we are investing a lot to make this happen and we are doing it as fast as possible from sas ever possible but we heard that justin hard he says that they are allegedly returning the turbines to demonstrate that it is russia that does not want
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to resume supplies. well, how can you comment on such rhetoric? i would say that the prime minister of canada and what is wrong with trudo and the chancellor are somewhat right in their assessments situation and they did not lead to conclusions, really russia is a hypocrite when it says that someone is preventing it from supplying energy to europe normally and really planted something, trying to sow people and countries, but the conclusion is wrong from this situation, what the democratic world should do is to unite under the sun is very important, an important explanation of why canada is acting like this now, if someone says that canada has now bowed under russia or succumbed to russian blackmail, it will probably be a false and unfair judgment. canada has a very tough and unshakable position in support of ukraine. there are one and a half where canada's role is unique for example, in sanctions, in many sectoral sanctions, in relation to russian assets, in financial aid to ukraine, for example, canada is probably now, if on the first, then definitely on the leading positions per capita
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population for the money it provides to ukraine , but in this particular situation, canada is trying to help in its reasonable europe and show its solidarity with its european partners in foreign policy. canada opposes it as the most european country in the western hemisphere . this approach played with the ropes a bad joke and he has now pushed them to make a wrong decision for this decision the government harshly criticizes this criticism both from the ukrainian community and from the general public and from the media and of course from to the opposition, this mistake has already cost the authority of this government, and my prediction is that the government will have to admit its mistake and revise this decision, well, if gazprom really does not take away the turbines, it is a precedent that canada made an exception to the same sanctions that it itself introduced, what is the danger from this precedent, is it possible that someone will also think that sanctions exist, but if it is very necessary, then
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it is possible. of course, russia and many other countries interpret this step as a manifestation of weakness, and this will give an unnecessary reason for other governments to look what can they do now for exemptions from sanctions and where can they now go to meet russia and this is exactly what is not needed now in this situation, the exact opposite is needed that the whole free world consulted on this sanctions acted strictly consistently balanced just like canada has called on the whole world to act, i emphasize once again that it is very unpleasant that canada is in the role of this country that showed weakness, russia is consistently looking for such weak links well, we definitely did not expect that such a link would appear in canada, it is our friendly a country is a partner - this is a country that is real, helps us , helps us sincerely, and it is definitely not deserved, it is unfair to see canada now in the role of a country that russia is using situationally
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. to ukraine, when president joe biden actually refused to introduce further sanctions against nord stream-2, motivating it by the fact that it is already almost completed, by the fact that it is necessary to meet germany, because relations between the two country then worsened, is there something similar here too? because germany also appears here, perhaps the canadian government thinks that it is necessary to reconcile somehow, make friends with germany, i don’t know, can you comment on it? it seems to me that the situation is worse because canada now has to review its own decision that it made earlier and the previous series in this dubious series when canada decided to return the first turbine and after that russia immediately decided to reduce the pressure in the lawns and thereby put the labor government very humiliated the situation well, it seems to me that it still
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brings this particular saga, this particular story to a completely unsightly continuation and unsightly resolution of the question to us: what should we do in this situation, what is ukrainian diplomacy doing now, what is the current ambassador doing of ukraine in canada to indicate to explain consistently where there is an error to indicate where there are errors in seemingly logical judgments and chains to indicate that russia was and will be engaged in gas blackmail to seek the adoption of correct decisions we must turn this situation to our advantage now the world is in the world a critical mass of allies, our allies who understand us , we don't need to don't give up now, continue to clearly explain where and in what positions sanctions should be done more mr. shevchenko, what do you think he can count on chancellor of germany olafsholz, that's when it was actually about well then, angela merkel was still the chancellor when, uh, they were so hopeful
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that they would build the nord stream-2 pipeline into operation, now scholz, as i understand it, hopes that will be able to launch deliveries via the northern stream alone in order to fill its gas storage if this is not done despite the fact that the turbines will return well, it will be proposed to return russia a, is there any plan b does scholz solve his problem with the energy crisis. i think we see and very correct logical steps on the part of a united europe, for example, the decision to consistently refuse russian energy carriers , a decision was made to seriously prepare for this winter , to be ready for the fact that russia will continue to blackmail and these are all the right decisions late but the right decisions with all this we see some certain chaotic movements where somehow, uh, goryachkova is trying to play the situation to try to preserve some fragments of the previous quasi energy stability that was in europe, it was not
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stability it was an energy hook with on the part of russia. i think that the sooner the free world finally says goodbye to this illusion and understands the seriousness of the blackmail that russia is resorting to, the better it will be for the free world and for the whole world and for planetary security once again we have to take care of our own interest and when we hear the explanation that you know it is necessary so that the germans do not freeze now in their homes in dresden, hamburg or berlin i think that we have to think about chaplin where yesterday peaceful people died including children, we need to think about those people who have lost not heat or hot batteries in recent months, but who have lost their homes, lost relatives or lost their lives, these are not things we can catch ourselves. it is good to remember this and clearly explain to our western partners any other reasoning, they look cynical and look inadequate. thank you very much.
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andrii shevchenko, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to canada 2015-2021, was in touch with us. the forward line of the zaporizhzhia region. tank crew from the khmelnytskyi region, the grandfather, a professional soldier, began his service in the army during the ussr, after the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine, as a volunteer, he returned to yevheniya nazarova, a correspondent of radio svoboda and now fighting in zaporizhzhia, spoke with her grandfather during a visit to the front line
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. who speaks ukrainian, who speaks surzhik , as it is, there is a family, there is one for himself, somehow, his khmelnytskyi orlyk he flies very quickly and very quickly makes gifts for our unexpected guests. and we are firing at the enemy, our forces are certainly not equal against them, but the truth is with us and we will win, as we won a couple of days ago, their
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new one, so everything depends on the actions of the entire crew, not from one, not from two, but from everything, from the commander, from the gunner, from the mechanic and then it turns out to be a success, we knocked him down, he was standing in a landing position, we hit him with the first shot, well, he wanted to leave, we led the second hall through him once more, and he was hit by the third, and by the third time, he could not go to the gunner nikolai, and why was the young man very a good person, 24 years old, a mechanic, a driver, andrii, 40, i will be 56, well, count on our crew for more than 100
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years. i was drafted into the ranks of the soviet army and ended up in the tankers. to our land, trouble to our fathers , mothers, children, women, all ukrainians and all europeans, and what do you understand? you have to see it all yourself and go through it. you didn’t want to wish
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this on anyone, because there is nothing worse than war, pope roman francis called the propagandist daria dugina an innocent victim of the war, which outraged some ukrainians. the pope used this comparison in an address to the people of the vatican, in which he also expressed sympathy for the ukrainian people because of the war, but at the same time equated the sacrifices of ukrainians and russians. addressing the faithful on the independence day of ukraine, pope francis urged to free the prisoners in this russian-ukrainian war and there was also a call to prevent a nuclear disaster at the zaporizhia npp, someone at that time talking about orphans and suffering, francis seemed to equate ukrainians and russians, this outraged many users of social networks in ukraine, and the ambassador of ukraine to the holy see , andriy yuras, stated that i quote, it is not possible to talk about the aggressor and the victim in the same categories,
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end of the quote, we will discuss the pontiff's statements with a religious scholar in a moment but first of all, let's hear from the pope himself. i once again send my pleas to god for peace for the beloved ukrainian people who are suffering from the horrors of the war that has been going on for six months. i hope that there will be concrete steps have been taken to end the war and also to avoid a nuclear disaster at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. well, in my heart there is concern for the prisoners, especially those who are suffering, and i ask the authorities to work on their release. i think about the children, many of whom died, and i also think about refugees, many of whom have gathered here, only wounded, so many ukrainian and russian children have become orphans, orphanhood, there is no nationality, orphans have lost
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their father or mother, whether they are russian or not they are ukrainians well, to discuss the position of the pope and the eastern policy of the vatican, we invited the religious scholar dmytro gurevoy good evening. greetings from the studio. so, from the first day of this great war between russia and ukraine, the pope expresses his constant sympathy and solidarity towards the ukrainians and calls for peace. it is good for ukraine, is n't it? because the voice of the holy see is listened to in the world, on the one hand, of course, this is good, but on the other hand, as the president of ukraine recently said in our address, e that before we wanted peace a now we want victory, that is, the emphasis has changed after february 24, and if we are talking about a just peace, and not just about peace as a cease-fire. and what is the actual position of catholicism here, that is, if you can put these
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statements of the pope in the context of historical or always a- and was it always about peace as such or about how you say a just peace ah well the position of the catholic church is complex it is based on a lot of dogmatic and canonical ideological arguments but here the thing is because the pope uh-uh rather i think how much uh-uh reflects the position of the catholic church itself as much as his own such a position of a person who is devoted to the left -liberal ideology because we see not only that such statements from the pope but also from some other international organizations, but recently there was a scandal with amnesty international, and here it seems to me that for the analysis of the uh, well, if the genesis of these uh, thoughts of the pope , we should turn to the recent history of the uh, and it seems to me that this is the reason why the pope
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and there are other international uh, some voices organizations do the officials speak like this because, in principle, after the second world war, they had no experience in mediating conflicts between states in europe ? of course, there were such conflicts in the countries of the third world. there were internal conflicts, that is, there were some civil wars, this was also the case in latin america, and for the mediation of civil conflicts there, of course, a toolkit is necessary when, let's say, two sides are equalized, but in our case it does not work, because we have it is obvious to everyone that there is a specific victim and there is a specific aggressor who committed an undisguised and not hidden aggression, and therefore to equate and apply the same methodology that was used for media mediation of conflicts in europe after the
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second world war, well, this is impossible and, unfortunately , this is not possible to the end they don't understand either in international organizations, or, say, the pope , unfortunately, in my opinion, you don't understand this either, because he has a latin american background, where exactly is this otaka, she's a model worked well, let me remind you that just now and in the address that we listened to in the excerpt of the address of the pope, he said that orphans have no nationality, and in this way he speaks of the war as the madness of all sides, he speaks of the victims of the war actually orphans, which are russian orphans and the ukrainian community, but it does not indicate the context. and what is obvious is that russian orphans are the children of those soldiers, presumably of the russian army, who make orphans of ukrainian children, and even andriy yuras, the ambassador of ukraine to the holy see
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wrote that the pope's speech was disappointing and made me think about many things. you can't talk about the aggressor and the victim of the rapist in the same categories. what do you think? they just don't understand this context, or is it just politics, well, it's valuable, uh, there is such a saying, the devil it hides in the nuances in the details and it is really the misunderstanding of the context that leads to terrible manipulations and terrible distortions, and one of these sources of misunderstanding of the context. mediation of interstate conflicts is the second aspect. i think that there is a fixation on moscow, this is the infamous host policy and the pope's attempt at any cost to meet patriarch kirill vladimir putin and to look into their eyes and try to convince them of that that they are wrong and
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the patriarch just banally spat today or yesterday in the face of uh pope francis and uh cancel the meeting they were supposed to have in kazakhstan at the summit of world leaders, that is, the grandmother needs to understand that uh in moscow well, they don't want to agree on peace in moscow they all want to fight for independence. are they the people who bring epaulettes or are they the people who wear different a-a to ukrainians and the whole free world eh well, it's finally time to do something about it and my opinion is that the next pontiff, the next pope of rome, must must become a person from ukraine, a person who will have the moral right, moral strength, and strength of spirit, to speak the truth, to testify to the
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truth, and to give things their names, to call white-white and black-black the victim the victim, and the cashier of the aggressor is the cashier and the aggressor very thank you for your comment, we were contacted by dmytro gorevoy, a religious scholar in seversk, donetsk region, which is not far from north donetsk, which is occupied by russia. local residents have been living without gas, electricity and water since may, despite constant shelling, a lack of food, destroyed and burned houses, some residents of seversk refuse to leave the city how do the local people live in the front-line territory of ukraine further in the material people are dying, children are being killed pitifully, children of soldiers are pitifully, a generation is dying, a generation is dying, we are already leaving, it doesn’t matter to us and kids kids i was born here
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my parents, my whole family, where will he go, worked here and is listed. still at work, and there is everything. from a blank sheet, everything that is needed here is thrown away, so i am 84 years old, so they shoot people. you can eat everything in order for people to eat and not soon
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porter, so to speak, here is the 52nd caliber, but the 132 caliber is being made, it is probably somewhere on the side from the east, on the side of the refinery, the details are about 7-10 km from here, svoboda life will return already tomorrow traditionally at 6- and the evening meanwhile subscribe to radio svoboda's pages on social networks, we are facebook twitter instagram telegram viber, in fact, wherever you are, this program was conducted by sashko shevchenko until tomorrow
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, dear ukraine, you know that in us everything will be as we want it, everything will be cheese together, everything will be everywhere everything will work everything will be blue and yellow everything will be and everyone will be at home our ukraine you will bloom and smile again everything will be even everything will be happy independence as never before it is very important in this difficult time to be aware of what is happening we tell the news and we help to understand the events, however, war can bring

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