it's not just that the representatives of the authorities are now saying about the protracted nature. well, you know, they say something different every time, whether it's right or wrong . history will judge for sure, because in the first week of the conversation, it was about the fact that if not tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow, the blue-yellow flag will be over the kremlin today is already talking about other accents. of course the war will be protracted. of course the war will be difficult and of course we are entering a very, very difficult period because the military actions will impose problems and challenges that exist today in the economy and for many people, of course, when you start talking about the economy, the first word that comes to mind is gas and winter. of course, gas. of course , winter

. to talk about it because these statements that were made a week before independence day, that we knew everything from the authorities that there would be such an attack, but we did not want to tell people, i took it as a certain insult , because on february 24, ukrainians came out to defend the country and if it were not for ukrainians, if you are unarmed forces and not simple people who worked hard and who knew for sure that we had to win, then there would not have been 31 days of independence on january 24, august 24, 2022 ago. i am convinced that this conversation should have been said or should not have been said is very debatable, but for sure the country had to be prepared for aggression before confrontation. i don't want to talk about the demining of chongar, about the construction, or rather the construction of a fort of official structures in the north of ukraine. about

the withdrawal of ukrainian troops from the golden many, many things. of course, what will be said then, we need to talk about others today . what needs to be done now for the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine, what is needed in the international arena in order for the aid of the west to be even greater, including military equipment and funds, for sanctions against the aggressor were even stronger, there is no longer any discussion, because this is obviously an axiom of the unity of ukrainian society, and we must say all these things today in order for us to enter with as many advantages and victories as possible into the winter period because it will be very difficult and you have to give yourself a very honest account of it, but despite this difficulty , despite these challenges, there should be no doubt that victory will be ours, why and because millions of

ukrainians want to live not just live in an independent country, but want to live because russian aggression is not a war on and for territory, russian aggression in order to destroy ukrainians, if we want to live, then we have to win, well, in general, this is probably the state of ukrainians this year, in the 22nd year, when on the one hand there is a tragedy and we all, well, really we are horrified on the other hand, we are all coming together and understand that this tragedy should make something stronger. well, yesterday, this situation happened at chaplyna station in dnipro, dnipropetrovsk oblast, according to the latest data. at least 25 people died, 31 people were injured, and two children were injured among the dead. 11 -year-old boy under the rubble of a house, another six-year-old child during a fire in a car near the railway station as a result of a rocket attack , four more passenger carriages caught fire in

this train, unfortunately , the lviv train conductors, three of them died four wounded in russia admitted to the attack on the railway station, they wrote that they were successful with kander, they say that as a result of the strike, more than 200 soldiers were destroyed, well, after each strike, hundreds of soldiers are destroyed. well, that's what they say , at least. promised retribution for this blow, whether there will be an answer, there will be an answer in crimea. i would look at the destroyed train station. they sit and think, everyone thinks it won't fly to my head today or not. and now

it's definitely flying, i can't even doubt it. in the near future , something will fly. here, we add to our conversation mykola muza, general of the army of ukraine, head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine in 2005-2010. years old, mr. mykola, i understand that this will be a compliment, including to you, in our big interview before the beginning of the conversational studio, oleksiy danilov was the chairman of the national security and defense council of ukraine, he noted that actually our external intelligence is very he often does just heroic deeds, winning in this invisible war of the special services of the special services of the russian federation, confidently and in many episodes, but still about yesterday there were a lot of shelling, a lot of alarms, in fact, another missile terror was inflicted by the russian federation on

the territory of ukraine, many hits how can you analyze this situation what happened yesterday with the missile attacks and in general the situation at the front, which, according to many experts, is now in such a state of impasse because the russian federation is can no longer advance, and the ukrainian armed forces, we hope, cannot yet, but soon they will be able to actively begin the occupation of the territory occupied by the russians. i sincerely congratulate everyone. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i want to say that ukraine is really at the defining stage of its struggle and the establishment of the independence of the state there was no such stage. we have gone through the whole history , especially the first days and months of the establishment of moscow, there were indeed threats from the russian federation, just possible annexation operations took place crimea, the 94th year of the operation to destabilize the situation, especially because of this clash with the crimean tatars

, chechnya was a horseshoe name in crimea, especially important in 2008, when we were on the verge of war from the russian federation . - events in georgia but such a decisive stage as today everything is going full-blooded war and where the test of our our so to speak of our state of our people on the spot we on the first day literally on february 24 indicated and putin directly you started the aggression against ukraine is the beginning of your end and why and when i said it, because a united people who realized that they, er, reveal their state, their society and their name, their families , their land, no aggressor can be defeated in in the world did not win in such countries and practice has shown that finland is a slightly different country that is professional in the union, so we all stood up for the defense of our country, yes, there were mistakes on the part of the leadership of the military leadership, what colleagues said

about the main directions of attack but today we about the future, how can we protect it? blame all the powerful forces, those who are really working today and professionally, this is the professional training of our armed forces of ukraine, all special purposes - these are the units that exist today . by other countries, these are the prerequisites that form the power that will ensure offensive operations in the future . what happened 24 is an extremely important situation is that the russian federation will lose in this war, they lost the first stage as we already lost the second stage on the 24th, which he announced about the annexation of donbas, in general, it is clear that it was not possible to carry out major offensive operations in general, putin started just in time and we are capturing his warrant for the entire state in a few days in an hour in a week. then in months, of course, a

model for the future did not come out. to conduct an offensive last time, what he says is that we have not yet started . we have not yet started in a big way. already a million servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine of the power structures received the latest weapons e-e has advantages on the order of a generation the czech football federation is losing to a high format that putin felt felt a loss but he wanted to declare under the sign the date of the 24th accordingly that we are facing a large-scale war if he used all resources, that is, he will start a total war and it was ramped up, it was a powerful, professional company was deployed. yes, we were accompanied by shelling and offensive operations, but it was just that a large offensive operation where he declared and struck the decision-making center in the capital of ukraine

on nuclear power plants, respectively, a provocation on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, this was all, i will say, a powerful operation regarding e, firstly, intimidation of the people of ukraine from the head of the state leadership and especially partners to the negotiation process on conditions of the russian federation, and he did it with all his strength, both in a force format and in an information format, and it is clear to erdogan already with concrete proposals about the actual surrender of ukraine i.e. the recognition of crimea, the recognition of what we call the dpr of the lpr, the recognition of the annexed territories as separate units, which then later went to russia. these formats have already been declared, and this is how everything was seen, and many people were really afraid, and even the central government stopped its work. the invention of the quarter is correct, such actions are biased, but we we saw that this was indeed an information operation, we evaluated but prepared for such scenarios, but what could be the consequence, it is very important why putin did not dare to start such a total global war without having

according to the resources of the powerful in fact it would already be a reversal process our entire state raised all the resources precisely against the global aggression when it started taking into account the wasp as the strikes he was talking about understood it had already unblocked and even the implementation on the screen nato status why because there were not only threats here the government officials of the quarter were talking about real provocations on the zaporizhia administration, this is already a threat to russia, respectively, and to ukraine, but in europe, in the first place, everything was clearly assessed accordingly by the british and americans by the europeans and it has been declared that such a scenario will already be sent to uh, a clear blow to nato and violations of sovereignty will be in effect, the fifth article will apply, and russia was also warned about the zaporizhzhia power plant, and unofficially, i will directly say that they will benefit from the development of various britain and the united states through the official channel and germany, france, and through intelligence, through the leaders of this country and turkey , you will start such a large-scale provocation, and

even more so, a global war, this is no longer a reverse process, then surrender all countries to a real war against the united states. which is the united states and britain, europe is ready use all resources to strike back at threats of nuclear, so to speak, nuclear confrontations. maybe even tactical threats, and even more so at the global level, will have an instant counter-reaction, even if they will only raise resources for striking at once, they are immediately monitored by all means of space control, radio-technical control, everything that is in russia is operationally just so to say, the threat to the world is real and so rejoice ukraine will rise from the goal of its regime completely with the support of its partners and that the world will no longer expect that all resources for confrontation will already be included and if we are already talking about the global

format of threats and here it has become concrete and here the model of not just helping ukraine to our state as on a powerful frontal factor because the front is in the fight for the democrats in the fight against the aggressor, and here the question is the survival of these countries because the zaporizhia npp and the nuclear scenario are a threat to europe, the world, and china and of india and japan and the usa and europe and russia and ukraine, in fact, this scenario will lead to the catastrophe of the world. putin, and i will say frankly, if he had not spoken, he would not have been lost. felt that there would be a powerful counterattack, even a nuclear counterattack to him, how do we say this , the perspective is such that he did not dare to start such operations. although he did not give up aggression, chaplin showed that he was ready to use a sectoral, powerful attack on the civilian population, in fact, crimes

against humanity, this is clearly qualified precisely by the format of international legal assessments as crimes against humanity, against this violation, this is that he no longer trusts them, he sees that they can fulfill this super task of hoarding ukraine, accordingly, he tries to manage on his own. and this is an even bigger failure, and in fact today he does not knows the exit of the national mobilization increased troops by 140,000 soldiers this will not help anything in fact no mobilization forced decree by decree today which he issued will not help to win in ukraine, we already have all the technological military resources, powerful military equipment that will provide not only defense, but i think that in the course of two or three months, offensive operations

. several months to prepare all the possibilities and in many sectors to carry out powerful strikes , for example, by choosing one sector, he ensured that the force of the strikes from the front of the flanks and looking for the first time and directly on the occupied territory to strike at the bridges on the infrastructure, on the warehouses, on the post offices, at once , this is what ensures the encirclement of the enemy and his escape from all territories , for example, in the direction of kherson, zaporizhzhia, or kharkiv. i just guarantee the mood of the russian troops there that they will flee from other sectors on their shoulders, we can leave then and to the east and to the crimea, that is, everything can be the beginning of the end of putin's regime and the liberation of all territories, as a theory, all our leaders in the 91st year, here is the prospect of quick operational actions, but here it depends on how ready our command is, powerful, so to speak. our units are already trained in combat directly and

equipped with ultra-high-precision weapons. the nearest i think is weeks. it should still arrive in large quantities, especially missile complexes, missiles, especially against air. self-propelled artillery installations from germany, the united states and britain, an extremely powerful and effective air defense system, radio technical means that ensure the complete neutralization of all fire resources and systems given to russia, they will be blind, this is the model that was generated today and should be in our cities, which will be planned for conducting relevant operations, and i will still tell you how the experts stood by us, not to wait for years, this was today's war, putin will draw new reserves we will draw in just and even old weapons for a long time. we must draw from this format, we need to prepare effective and powerful operations for the command and leaders of ukraine .

i think that this format is more losing for ukraine, we need to go on a powerful offensive operation in the next two or three months, eh, we heard . thank you, in fact, you answered a lot of thoughts. you answered the questions that we had and in our audience as well. of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine in 2005-10, but in continuation of this topic, indeed, today putin signed a decree on increasing the army of the russian federation to two million. it seemed that they are ready for further war, we can talk about it right now, mykola golonsha, you have a word, yes. and from what we are hearing now from the experts, it looks like russia resembles, you know, such a wounded beast, but it can be quite dangerous at this moment, what do you think about it what do you think we should expect from our body, a dangerous beast

like russia? of course, it can be dangerous only in some segments of the levers, because there is no reason to use even tactical nuclear weapons, and no one will allow it. moreover, great britain prime minister oleksii was forced to assume that if there is a strike from the russian federation, then there will be a strike from great britain, by the way, a new candidate for the post of prime minister also confirmed that she is ready if use tactical nuclear weapons. and i would like to draw attention to the fact that there are indeed such thoughts about the fact that there will be a protracted war, but there are relevant touches and to which we should pay attention. the first thing is that the world has woken up, the world has woken up since the attack on ukraine, this inert barren un

she generally demonstrated her pacifism and this impression, you know, the houses are like children, but now all , er, all sober-minded countries of the world have united and united to supply us with weapons, the last thing yesterday was what mr. biden announced about the next portion of weapons, respectively more than two billion dollars, almost 3 billion, and there will be all the systems listed by mr. mykola, and there will even be radar, there will even be drones, and there will even be equipment that will be able to withstand mine damage, so the world is helping ukraine for so that ukraine would help ukraine , in accordance with the armaments, the war had long been over, i once, at the very beginning, still arbitrarily

, always talked about the fact that our ground troops are the strongest ground troops in the united states, great britain, and if the armaments that are coming in now accumulate and it would be a sufficient quantity and it has already ended without a second moment russia is suffering from sanctions and the fact that they puff up their cheeks and tell us that they are so powerful and strong but you see how they they are trying to lift sanctions today. and i believe that ukraine will increase them and it should be replaced because today there is already a question of appropriate sanctions in relation to the kidnapping of people, the abduction of children, the adoption of illegal children, torture, and all the facts that we saw about reindeer herders and with azovstal and so

on, we understand that sanctions will increase, we understand that there will be results of investigations and no one will let go, that is, russia is slowly dying and that's the way it was forecasts once upon a time, very intelligent people, commanders, prophets, they said that russia will fall apart , it will fall apart because today the economy of russia, no matter what anyone says, it will not last, you ask that today russia has the appropriate gods and for references over four trillion rubles, i don’t know if there it is in dollars, but they have these deficiencies. that is, they must be caught up, how will they catch up, where will they come from? i deeply doubt the buildup of weapons, so let's remember that putin ordered and

today, the defense industry is working to build up weapons, armaments, and ammunition. i believe that in our country , in principle, no one advertises. impresses from far away and i think that the state leadership should pay attention to that and today give people the opportunity to work and earn money and protect the motherland and i think that in this case no one will give putin the opportunity to escalate the escalation and take control over ukraine, and let's remember two more facts: literally this weekend, forty people brought a riot in belarus and

the officers made a demand. names will fly here on that one and on your property, this is the first, the second, you know about the uprising, which is already quite serious, because in general, in russia, there are women who cannot find their husbands, mothers who cannot find their children well, at the same time, let us think soberly if we think that somewhere up to 100,000 dead , missing, injured russian soldiers will not be covered or hidden by anyone, so this rebellion will slowly ripen. and i think that the corresponding problems will begin inside in russia , because winter will begin in them too, they will also have problems with surviving the winter. and the fact that putin has increased his

troops there by 138,000 today is not worth anything at all. do you remember? four times larger army to defeat our er if we judge that today the ukrainian army has a million people er fighters in its ranks, then they need 4 million but er their armored vehicles are outdated their armored vehicles are used today on khreschatyk you can see that our soldiers are doing with russian equipment, that's why there are optimistic forecasts that this war can continue for a very long period of time, i wouldn't say because they didn't even manage to carry out their plan and capture the donetsk luhansk region if they didn't manage to do it, the pace of the pace stopped today, you look at how our

army works, the plan is minimal. yes, you look, you are correct in saying how our army works professionally, logistically, in all warehouses, in all arms, in logistical locations, in control locations, that is, such logic very true, what arestovych stated was also said by mykola malomuzh, very correctly, only hit back hit back where they are coming from, they will stop the orcs, they will stop putin, no one will condemn us. that is, we do not hit civilians objects, we hit warehouses, we hit poikhaloist military objects from which they fly to us and it will perceive the light, that's why i'm talking about the build-up of thunder two, let's say we already have them and mr. biden didn't just go to meet with the saudis because we delivered our

installations there, and i think that they probably already came to us or will come, so i think that we should also build up our armaments, show that we have muscles, we have reasons to the point of stopping and expelling to squeeze out of the territory and the most important thing. i would like to say that among the collaborators who still remained in ukraine, for example, i wrote about the strike in the reply of such a heron . the pillowcase that served the opzzhists today is still sitting like that if, uh, if today we do not pay attention to those who sit and continue to destroy our statehood, it will also be a big laugh and will be

a very big background song for the orcs. well, i think that in the end result is that the ukrainian army will be able to put things in order. i say this because there is no motivation whatsoever in the russian army and they are already running away. they are all afraid of a face-to-face meeting with our armed forces, and i think that there is every reason to end the war much, much faster and it can be ended with the onset of the first snow and cold weather if there is a corresponding supply of weapons. but it seems to me that we need the help of our foreign partners here just recently figures appeared that british defense minister bn wooles said that the total losses of russia in the war with ukraine

amount to more than 80,000 people, this is about those who you said that their relatives were looking for them if they were not brought from the battlefield in the form of bodies in the bags of books you will have a question, well, look, you can really say that the ukrainians were a little scared before august 24, there were a lot of reports of this information that it is not recommended to appear there in the government quarter, probably not the most i was puzzled by the message, or rather the recommendation from the embassy of the united states of america there, whether it is urgent for all citizens of the united states to simply leave the territory of ukraine, and in fact, such a harsh message was only before the start of a full-scale invasion and in the end the russian federation really committed missile terror as far as 58 according to the official e-e according to the statistics of populated areas of ukraine, they were hit by

enemy shells, but nevertheless, this was another manifestation of terrorism on the part of the russian federation of some kind of breakthrough, they said that a new offensive was possible , i would try to make it happen, they could not implement anything , or can it be said here, or can it be said that if russia did not manage to somehow even try to turn the situation in its favor on august 24, what is next for them there will definitely be fewer and fewer chances for this, and fewer and fewer chances, look , they didn’t try to change anything, they tried to intimidate us, demoralize us, including psychologically, we saw reports that there were a lot of aircraft departures that simulated blows and these constant alarms, there were six in lviv, in kyiv there were more yesterday, some of them really greeted something, some did not arrive, it was an imitation

, planes were just taking off from the territory of belarus. and this is their mistake. you started talking about what, what, what does this 31st anniversary of independence mean? look, they expected that zelensky would run away and they would enter kyiv in three days. well, logically, zelensky did not had no experience with of this sphere, the russian armada is here, such a well-known army, he did not run away. they expected that poroshenko was running. well, first of all, who would they arrest, who would be there after zelensky, poroshenko has no doubts about this, they fought against him in the elections , he was also in kyiv, ukrainian deputies were in kyiv, the ukrainian parliament was in kyiv, well, some went and we know these people, but most of those who make decisions, they all stayed in kyiv. what does this say? this is exactly what it says about what you franko wrote. jesus, coffee and something built over the years, all generations, we were yesterday