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ukraine, you know that in us everything will be as we want everything will be everywhere everything will work everything will be blue and yellow everything will be and everyone will be at home our ukraine you will bloom and smile again everything will be independence with a holiday like never before unconquered cities of ukraine lviv is a city where more than 2,000 historical architectural and cultural monuments have been preserved. its center is a unesco world heritage site . ivan fedorov founded the first printing house and printed the first ukrainian book here at the saint onufry monastery.

apostle after the november order and the establishment of the west ukrainian people's republic lviv became the capital and the heart of the ukrainian liberation movement in june 1941 on the ukrainian market square. the national assembly proclaimed the act of restoration of the ukrainian state, after which the nazis began terror against the ukrainian insurgent army tried to take the city under their control, but power was seized by the reds, despite the repression, lviv residents continued their struggle today, all roads lead to lviv, even angelina jolie did not miss it it has become a second home for thousands of ukrainians, it gives the soviet a ton of humanitarian goods and even under rocket attacks it continues to work for victory in lviv unconquered so that ukrainians don't think about

so that they don't talk about it in the first place, war still comes out, war is our victory, seven days a week from monday on monday, seven different spheres of human activity, sport, culture, politics, eight espresso presenters, journalists, experts, opinion leaders in real time about the most relevant events through the prism of war, daily author's projects on espresso glory to ukraine is a program, my name is serhii rudenko. good day and good health to all. today is the 183rd day of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers. yesterday, august 24, russia struck the chaplyne railway station in the dnipropetrovsk

region. kharkiv region, kyiv region , dnipropetrovsk region, and khmelnytsky region were hit, meanwhile, the enemy continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of august 24, russia lost in 45,850 people in ukraine in just the last day, the armed forces of ukraine have eliminated 150 occupiers since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 1,929 tanks, 4,245 armored vehicles, 37 artillery systems, 272 rocket launchers, 148 air defense systems, 234 aircraft, 202 helicopters, 3,160 units of automotive equipment 15 ships, boats, 196 cruise missiles, two, 828 drones, 99 units of special equipment, the biggest losses the enemy

suffered in the donetsk direction were the shooting of 25 ukrainians in a heron situation in the eastern and on the southern fronts of ukraine, we will talk for the next hour with us, military expert mykhailo, mr. mykhailo, good day, good health. thank you for participating in our program. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. first of all, let's start our conversation with the statement of the head of the main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense, major general kyryla budanov, who stated that the turning point in the war with the russians has already begun, i quote, this is not the second army of the world, and not even the fourth, and the retribution will come, understanding that the retribution will be comes to people when they personally begin to see and feel that war is not somewhere in some part of the world and for them the turning point has already begun

. the territory of the annexed crimea and on the territory of the russian federation so absolutely i agree with such and such wording of the head of the main intelligence office, since crimea was really occupied until the last moment the annexed crimea was such a sacred territory for putin personally, he claimed that it is probably the most protected territory possible not only in the russian federation but also in the world because he concentrated there the huge air defense forces of the aviation of foreign forces and the navy, which actually has its own systems of air defense, which, for example, were quite powerfully represented on the missile cruiser moscow, including the one that was destroyed, so it really was the beginning of strikes and massive air raids

ukranian drones to the occupied crimea can be considered just such a psychological turning point of the war. and as for the military turning point, i think the military turning point actually began on february 24, when the plans of russia completely failed and they suffered a disaster precisely on the morning of february 24, when it became clear that there would not be a few hours for the operation , but there would be a protracted, very difficult war for the occupiers, and that is why the turning point really happened. now very interesting events are taking place, including on south and i think that we can expect further developments in the near future yesterday was six months of the russian federation's large-scale invasion of ukraine for more than eight years russia has been waging war on ukrainian territory 31

years of independence and yesterday the russians hit the railway station in the dnipropetrovsk region this the station is called chapline, and 25 people died there, 31 people were injured, while yesterday sergei shogun , the minister of defense of the russian federation, spoke before the minister of defense of the shanghai organization of cooperation shosek said that we have slowed down our offensive a little and we are doing it deliberately in order to minimize civilian casualties, but taking into account this statement and taking into account the slowing down of hostilities in donbas, in particular, because we remember that back in july, shoigu reported the price that we will already take control of the so-called dpr and lpr that is, you are going to the administrative borders of the donetsk and luhansk regions of the ukrainian

state, but this did not happen considering how the russian federation presents the development of the war in what can you say to ukraine? in other words, they have nothing to brag about and they simply, well, yesterday they terrorized the whole of ukraine with air raid alarms, and tonight in many regions, four or five air alarms struck civilian objects. is it because of impotence or because they want to prove that they are terrorizing the ukrainian people of ukrainians so that the ukrainians would then put pressure on president zelenskyi and say, let's have some kind of negotiations, let's have some kind of break, because there's simply no strength to endure anymore. well what they want is really what they would like for everyone to put pressure on ukraine and force ukraine to sign the capitulation, and yesterday, by the way, there were publications, several heads of state told what

happened on the morning of february 24, when representatives of the kremlin called them directly and demanded capitulation , that is, from those nothing happened at the moment, but i emphasize again that already on february 24 it became clear that russia had miscalculated and that their operation was being prepared entirely on the basis of distorted intelligence information and that the decisions were absolutely inadequate decisions to carry out the operation itself, that is why his statements are not the first time that the russian army appears to be slowing down its offensive in order to protect the lives of ukrainians . this is not the first time. your big battle then was the attempt to break through the ukrainian defenses with such fire shafts, but after the appearance of the ukrainian army's high-mars, all this stopped again, and against

this background, the statement that they, uh, well, they really look idiotic, that is, if russia really preserves the lives of ukrainians, but at the same time throws tens of thousands of russian soldiers to the slaughter. then it is not at all clear what kind of war it is on the part of russia. why does russia need it in order to protect ukrainians and destroy russians? this question is probably for the fsb, let them ask what it is. what is this nature of hostilities, but from the point of view of terrorist attacks of air missiles, absolutely nothing has changed from this either, because russia has very weak intelligence, very weak space intelligence. eh, the coordinates of the targets, and therefore, for the whole six months, you and i have been watching the strikes eh. maybe somewhere, eh, they were eh, framed

as strikes on military infrastructure, but at this moment, we saw how the strikes were carried out, eh, absolutely on civilian objects, which cannot even be thought of to explain any logic of inflicting these strikes. of course, the strike on the railway station can theoretically be explained by the fact that military supplies are being carried out there, and it seems to be strikes on e-e logistics on the enemy's critical infrastructure. can be explained somehow, but the attack on railway stations that are filled with people on passenger trains, well, this is just terrorism, and if you want to destroy this critical infrastructure. and indeed, you have high-precision weapons, and russia does not, in fact, it strikes with its old missiles by a huge deviation from the goals and the coordinates that they take somewhere for

their weapons. so, in principle, it looks like terrorist attacks, and not military ones, because if they really wanted to destroy the railway it was necessary to destroy the railway tracks and not to hit them with a passenger train according to the words of the sheik, who yesterday, when we were celebrating independence day , spoke before the ministers of defense of the highways, the special operation is going according to plan, all the tasks will be completed. he said that it is true, what tasks exactly he does not clarify because we remember that starting from february 23, when the goals of the special operations of the so-called military, simply put, russia's war, russia's great war against ukraine, were actually announced, it was clear that they want much more than they declare, because the older they talked about the fact that they want to support the so -called dpr and lpr, whose independence was recognized by vladimir putin and

the state duma. we are fighting on the territory of ukraine, not with ukraine, but with nato, does this mean that under the current conditions, russia can go exactly where they can go, that is, as far as they are allowed to go, of course, in reality, these are statements that everything is going according to plan. well, they again they still look idiotic. well, i can’t define it in any other way, well, imagine if they have a plan , that is, on the 23rd of february, well, or on the 22nd, then i signed the concept of the operation, yes, that is, they have a plan and in it it is written that on august 24, in the future, our

oil and gas will be embargoed in the winter. finally, we will not sell oil and gas to europe, we will suffer huge financial losses and putin says a super plan, and i am happy to sign the guys. well done, very well done in terms of formation of such a plan well, if this it really was like that, and i didn’t even know who europe was dealing with at the time, which proved that they were very good partners. well, if we remember that even after the 14th year, the europeans told us that how can we conduct a dialogue, what kind of dialogue is a dialogue with these people who wrote in the plan that after six months of war they get such results i don't know i have to ask mrs. merkel she is now retired she can think for a very long time she can tell how she could er hold some dialogues with these people, what kind of dialogue was it about, but if you put aside the jokes of course not according to which plan, but nothing is going on with them, a complete failure from a

military point of view, no proposals, i am sure of them, putin has no way to break the situation, well, of course, you can launch a nuclear strike, but we understand, or use chemical weapons, but we understand that after that a real disaster will come for russia, the time has already been delayed so much that russia has no chance for diplomatic, economic, political or any other maneuvering and then everyone will turn away from russia, i doubt that even china will have any dialogue with them at all and communication, therefore, they have no prospects for the military, they are fully counting on the fact that there will be some kind of energy economic crisis in europe, the political elites will change, maybe sometime in the spring putin will start begging them to put pressure on the leadership of ukraine and sign some kind of some vague, that is, now from a military point of view. as far as i understand, they want to freeze

the situation so that they can literally freeze europe in the winter and sign some documents in the spring. i am sure that they will not succeed of the results of their entire plan, which from the previous one, although in the spring, i think that when they will look at their failures, the thrones of slavery, the arab approaches, they just sat calmly and watched how, in reality, now with russia, they are simply collapsing and destroying it they are leading it to a-a-a collapse and so that the russians do not do anything and do not protest , god forbid against such idiots in power, what is this from the ministry of defense of the russian federation, they say that they hit the heron because there were hundreds of soldiers and equipment, they say, on the railway transported this equipment and servicemen boast in the shoigu department that many people were killed there, well at least we will wait for official

information from the ministry of defense of ukraine and the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine because, well, it is clear that the russians are conducting information and psychological special operations, we will not be victims of this special operation, we will not replicate what they say about chaplin, let's wait for official information from the ukrainian side. at the same time, messages appeared with reference to the deputy head of the russian security council federation of dmitry medvedev he said that the scenario of the development of the situation in ukraine is only one and a half, as he said, it is the achievement of all the goals of the so -called special military operation or a coup in ukraine for the recognition of the results of the special operations, well, that is, we see that they are not only going the military way, that is, not only with weapons, not only on the eastern, southern and northern fronts, but also counting on internal destabilization in ukraine, how possible is such a scenario and

the scenario that medvedev is talking about, what will happen a mutiny in ukraine or a coup and with the recognition of the results of special operations, well, this is an old story , in fact, if we remember how the russians acted from the 14th year, when they had things stalled, uh, at the front, they immediately switched to a hybrid scenario, the so-called hybrid war, which involves just internal weakening of the enemy in any way, it can be economy, energy, information, it can be confrontations, political, but the main thing is to cause damage right in the middle of the enemy, who then is no longer able to oppose you and after it is possible to achieve these goals of their brilliant special military operation that is simply going according to plan and everyone likes this plan , so the fact that they are moving to a hybrid scenario again shows that everything is very bad for them in the military direction and i once

again, from a military point of view, they can no longer offer anything to putin, that is, the generals there are telling us that they are mobilizing and there are also a few convicted criminal authorities in prison , and somewhere in some of wagner’s chvs, are they taking a few national battalions or something else, all this is going smoothly and somehow they throw a little bit of meat there on the front edge, but this in no way can solve the main task , that is, to change the situation at the front both in donbas and in the south, and therefore how it was always they are moving to a hybrid scenario and the same as i said that their calculation is to freeze the front and at the same time freeze europe in the winter, uh, this is exactly what this hybrid scenario is, that is, in europe, they hope to form a terrible energy a crisis that has never happened before, that is, to bring the prices of gas and electricity to simply incredible e-e

prices, and there really are very negative processes taking place in europe due to the fact that a reform was just carried out, the electricity market was liberalized , speculations on this can reach some sky-high prices which then turn into real e payments for electricity users, this is already happening in some european countries now and it is very negative, that is, europe itself must now react more actively to such e-e processes because the liberalization of the market was calculated on completely different conditions, now it is actually a state of war. it is not only in ukraine that europe needs to introduce a special state in the energy sector and see how it can be regulated by some manual regime in europe - it is the energy sector that, according to the kremlin's idea, has to go into the elites should change the economy into politics, and in ukraine, as always, they talk about the fact that in

ukraine there is a struggle between the leadership and the opposition, engaged against zelensky, there are constantly fakes about some conflicts, that is, there is efforts to create e conflicts within ukraine so that ukrainians begin e e to protest against their leadership and really weaken the very ability to accompany, i.e. if we are talking about the concept in our section, i.e. national stability, then precisely one of the main postulates of this theory is e e increasing the gap between political leadership and the population if the gap between society and the government increases in the interests of a-a in resources and motivations for the purposes of activity and so on, then the enemy can enter this gap and create threats to national security, therefore,

at this very moment, it is very difficult for ukrainians, it is very important to maintain this stability and not to look for hostile influence, including due to misinformation. defense of ukraine, he said that ukraine will move to total defense in the life of every ukrainian, and everything will change, as written by various people, when he said that it is necessary to give up part of the comfort part of the usual life and prepare for the defense of the state, what does this mean, what does this mean, there will be a new system of norms and mechanisms that will ensure the training of citizens and their participation in comprehensive defense . we are talking

about medical infrastructure, education, in a word, everything that is currently used during the war, but it is all adapted to peacetime when we talk about it and mention total defense defense, obviously, we should be talking about the transition of the economy to military lines, because in a state of war, this usually happens when we talk about the preparation of citizens for defense , because not everyone will, of course, fight, but everyone should understand how should weapons be handled and what should be done in the case of saboteurs entering the city, well, at least the people of kyiv definitely understand and remember this starting from february 24, almost from the first day. in your opinion, in what

perspective can we get such a program so what this program still has to be, because i understood that it is probably also about the development of the defense-industrial complex, because the western countries will not always provide us with weapons, it will not be for so long. -e complexes and e-e manpads and other other types of weapons. well, in fact, the law on national resistance was adopted. thank god that in the 21st year, the foundations of understanding what total defense is were laid. when in fact, everyone ukrainian is a part of the defense security system. this approach is not new. unfortunately, the only thing that has been lost a lot since the 14th year is that we did not manage to promote this

idea until the 21st year. conscription, which actually did not make any sense from the point of view of the military training of the entire population and the improvement of the combat capacity of the armed forces, because the armed forces fought as a professional component, and the conscripts were generally like some kind of auxiliary element that was not as the commanders said by crew members and it was necessary to solve the law on national resistance, this is this question raised by e. there are framework approaches, but there is a lot that needs to be done, for example, how to replace the draft with general military training, and we propose, for example, to make it very short e- well, before the war, we said about two months, but for example , the ministry of defense said that six months is the

minimum . circumstances to prepare a person who really did not become a military specialist, but she would have gained a general understanding of how to use weapons, what military tactics are, what military medicine is, how to behave in certain situations, how to act in not only military situations, but for example situations e countermeasures against natural disasters and countermeasures against some kind of organized crime and so on, that is, this general military training, and we propose to make it this certified, that is, for all strata of the population - this receiving this certificate would be very great, this is some common denominator, and then it would be possible to continue training. who wants to join the professional army signs a contract, goes to train in a military specialty, is already a professional,

someone enrolls in the territorial defense at the place of residence, although he continues to do one 's work, business, and so on, and someone simply remains in the broad age reserve in this broad sense of the word, but already with basic military training as far as the economy is concerned under a market economy, of course, not everything is so simple. well , here the approaches are not the same as prescribed even in our laws, because our laws were written for, after all, the laws that we had from the soviet union were slightly modified, there everything was just a command of the communist party, everything was translated into military rails in principle and peacetime e. the soviet economy was a planned command economy and so on. this is completely different from what we are talking about in a country with a liberal market economy, and here it is necessary to work in a completely different way. there is very little of such experience, that is, very little there are cases when a european country, for example , was transferred entirely to the military, including the economy, so ukraine is again

such a pioneer of this process. we simply have to thank our partners and allies for supporting us in the economic sphere because well, in fact, it is no less important than the military sphere, i.e., there is support for the military sphere , and there is the economy, the economy - this is the basis for the continued existence of our state, our nation and the conduct of hostilities, including that is why here really it is worth working together with our partners to launch market mechanisms that work in war conditions, not to try to drive everything under the soviet approach of a planned economy or a command economy, this can actually cause the opposite result or lead to the opposite result, as for the upc here too it is an interesting question because we really have pre-war developments that are showing themselves and have played

a critical and important role, by the way, just like, for example, neptune missiles or anti-tank missiles stugna, either we really have developments for their parakeet complexes, or there are developments for unmanned complexes, there are excellent armored vehicles and so on , that is, there are developments, but now the question arises whether it is now possible to deploy mass serial production of such e-e samples in our territory that can constantly