now it's an interesting moment, you know, eurovision has always been such a well-formatted and hyped pop contest and there are a lot of artists , including me, and there are indian artists and independent artists who are not used to this, you know, business is really bloody and they were afraid to go there because they knew that they would be changed very much and formatted very much, but now ukraine is, and because of everything that has happened in recent years and because of the revolution of dignity, because of the war, because of attention to ukraine and because of the previous experience of people who have already gone to eurovision from ukraine and we already gave the world a lot of interesting extraordinary artists and we already have a certain reputation, they expect the unexpected , unexpected decisions, new formats, new trends, and that is why it seems to me that we have a certain freedom , including this contest. i hope that i am not mistaken in this that ukrainians, who love freedom so much, they can get it at this selection too, that's why i think that like having trends, we have

the opportunity to shape them too. and that's why i call on very different musicians, including those who maybe he is still playing in the basements somewhere, somewhere in his bedroom, as if something is sitting next to aylish, he is slowly starting to create, don’t be afraid to start creating, join in, i thought it would last until the middle of october, it will continue and all these rules are on the website of the public domain, so you can check it and it’s probably worth it check them carefully in the meantime i think that there is still some such internal block somewhere, so can i compete there with some stars of the first magnitude? a new artist whom people will love because of his music, and because of his uniqueness, not only because of some trend, well, this is my certain dream. i know that

there are people in ukraine who are ready to be a part of world music, who are already a part musically, but i just don't know about them know, that is, i want niche artists to join the selection, these are the people you know around the world, always underground small clubs . they always fuel trends and producers take advantage of this. they all also go to small clubs and venues there in order to to feel yes what is going on yes and then suddenly someone shoots and no one will ever hear about the people who started it and i know that even at eurovision there were precedents when uh-uh completely out-of -form people like for example that portuguese boy jamala by the way, this is also there was a big surprise, both musically and from all points of view. and what trends are being created, and i see that these are people who live by music. these are not people who are created by producers , and i know that it is more difficult for them to pass the selection, and here i am, after all, my function as a music producer as well i see this, i want them not to be afraid and to know

that at least at the initial stage, yes, not at the final , in the final, too, but in the smaller ones, it is already there, and to a lesser extent, during the selection process, they will work directly with me, and i came to this way, i understand how it works. and you generally watched eurovision before this every year or not always cheered for the ukrainians, always of course well, i mean, are you talking about our selection or about eurovision, why is he spoiling it, well, it's not a secret, it's just that in this pop contest, they already won and metal workers and who didn't win there? and by the way, the group abba, you know. let's think about whether it's pop or music. not all for all times. but i would like ukraine to be, you know, musicians for these times, for people to listen to him in playlists, for him to be super, there are a

lot of them. for years, people have been harassed everywhere, and i know such people, i know they exist, but they must be dragged into the selection process. first of all, you obviously know how the eurovision national selection process takes place in ukraine in particular, and you know that almost every year there are some scandals or scandals like their warn in your opinion. do you see what you , in particular, can do on your part so that no one has any questions already in the final of the national selection? well, i will be responsible for the musical component, i will do everything in my power so that we do not have any complaints about the music, so that in the modern world it is also absolutely real ah but i believe that it is the collective responsibility of the contestants and musicians and the public, because the public creates certain rules that are on the website, they are open there, everything is absolutely clearly written. here, the musicians have these read the rules carefully and then don't be surprised when they are told that you published

this song for your girlfriend somewhere and now it's not a premiere or something. and i think that both musicians and social workers, then everything will be fine, everyone just has to do their job. how is it? how is it not banal and not easy to sound? and then we will not have any squabbles, and here i will use the opportunity, perhaps once again i will tell the audience that those who want to apply for the national selection they have a very read the rules carefully, this will also to some extent prevent any problems later during the national selection, yes, and well, let's be serious and responsible, let's not just cut corners and everything will be fine with us, in fact , this year there will be an innovation in our selection, this is because the jury will be chosen by the ukrainians themselves this also applies to the jury of the national selection and the jury that will later represent the country in

your opinion in the final of the eurovision song contest as an artist and as a music producer and the national selection of the eurovision song contest in general, this is the kind of jury it is who should consist of producers, musicians, former eurovision contestants, what is needed in order to adequately judge such a contest. i think that it is necessary to feel the moment in which we are now and, in principle, to orient ourselves in what is happening in the world and in ukraine, and i think that it is necessary to have a sufficiently broad in general, the spectrum is both musical and purely human, because it’s live, after all, i think it’s primarily a human quality. and we’re not just sending a musician to represent ukraine. we’re sending a person who has 100% to feel that she represents ukraine and to be absolutely ready for it. that is, it is a very complex question, that's why i said that he must be a very cool musical person. and where are the specialists who enjoy the authority

of everyone, it must be, it will be cool if there is someone who was at eurovision smelled all this in general euro vibe because yes it is also a meat grinder and without having been there and having seen it it is difficult to understand what is waiting for these poor contestants of ours because well it really hmm needs a lot the greater the strength and readiness of a person. now we have a war and our processes are changing very, very rapidly in the country. we have soldiers who sing and play instruments. and we have people who write songs about which they have been there for 3-4 years. that's why they wouldn't even think that concerts are held there, i don't know, in a clean field somewhere in hospitals, sometimes these concerts are even musically more interesting than the usual concerts there in the usual halls. that is, in general, our musical situation in the country is very turbulent and a person who will be on

proscenium a should be ready to answer everyone , just close all questions, this is very, very much not scary now, you will be selected, but believe me, hmm, the one who does not take risks. well, i don’t really like this kind of champagne. understood the decision not to hold the eurovision song contest in ukraine after all, as it should have been due to the victory of the kalush marching band and the eurovision song contest will be held in great britain if the eurovision song contest was held in kharkiv or mykolaiv. but if we can't hold it there, our country is uh, a single whole. well, we can't, having cities in which shelling happens every day, at the same time, choose some other city and build some illusory safe region there. i don't know i think that

it is impossible. i think that it will not be unfair . i think that we can hold eurovision in ukraine or any other competitions when there is no war in ukraine, people will live in safety and will understand that they have a future of some kind. adequate, but for now, listen to great britain , our partner, hmm, at the moment, everyone understands this, and with the denim guy, so that without him, they are our friends , so i think that great britain will very, very coolly support the ukrainian participant, what he was, and this is also important to ask about your work during the war, you have finished the first part of the tour of ukraine, the acoustic tour of the art shelter of ukraine, called hold your own, and in particular, i drew attention to the fact that there was a military violinist in your band. tell me please, about this member of your team, and his

name is moisei bondarenko, er, we met this guy by chance in april when he played for sold soldiers in the military headquarters. here he came right in the middle of his heart to me and said i am doing my service here, let me play the violin together with we are playing here and there have been similar cases before this, but i was just giving the stage to a person, the screen came out and then he says i always wanted to play with you let's play hallelujah leonardskoin i say wow, a serious choice, a song that raises the question of faith in general is the question is a serious track here is c major c major here we played and it turned out very cool and powerful and after that some time passed and we realized that it would be cool if from time to time we would meet and play because he is a military medic eh but in he is a very cool commander who let him go on tour and i think that now the military and musicians military musicians and

musicians military because musicians also have their own front it is very cool to be together on the same stage it is so energetically very cool and powerful here and when people see a person in a military uniform who plays the violin or sings phenomenally there, people once again understand what we are fighting for, who is on our side, who is he, in principle, on the side of the truth, and people should always remember what we are fighting for as much as possible simple things for a peaceful sky for vacations with friends for our relatives so that we can be together and now half of the country is in other countries and keep our own also about this about the opportunity to be together here and now when we appreciate this much more every day simple things like us deprived and it is very important to me that we have the opportunity with him and with our guitarist serhii, who also serves,

well, for the first time in five months, we saw him this morning on the set, we played the track a-a together to play for people, because playing live is essentially for musicians with such a basic and important chance to give this energy to people. well, you also perform in front of the military not only in hospitals, but you also go to locations somewhere near the front or on the front, or is it correct? i understand that this is somehow related to the fact that the guitarist your band went to the front related just like these are just concerts that have been taking place there since about the second month of the war and in very different points and at positions and places where the guys pass and pass combat stay there and in air defense and in very different places . that is, they are just meetings with the military and throughout ukraine, it is difficult to establish contact with them, it is not difficult, of course, there are different situations, it happens

that you arrive and in front of you are 100 simply super-charged marines, you know, at maximum speed, and you yourself are simply you begin to really fly there, you shout together with them, sing, and it happens that the boys have been in the same positions for a very, very long time, and you already know that they have such wild eyes , they haven't seen their relatives for a long time. it's much softer, but you still tease them. but always, always. it's a very big release of energy. i really want to believe that it's as important to them as it is to me. somehow the songs you choose for the military are different from the ones you played in the shelters from those who played, for example, during trips abroad and performances, in particular, in front of ukrainians abroad, is so different because for the military, we don't really like drugs, that's because well

, the music is played on the piano, after all, for the most part, it's still the birthmarks of love champagne eyes, it's the music of the happy the music of peace is the music of unity. yes, it gives people the feeling that life has a meaning in general and it is beautiful. but there are songs that were written during the war, which has been going on for eight years there. you know, it happens that we played a concert. by the way, i sing to them and at the champions queen egg, we sing together because i think that now all ukrainians are champions in this situation and we improvise a lot with them there, too, and we sing folk songs very different, you happen to be so that at the end of the concert, after several songs, a general or a colonel stands up and says, “ champagne eyes,

i don’t understand. such in kombat he is also such a very stocky boy and he says so very seriously in front of everyone dmytro, now you have saddened the commander with this sad song of yours, i shed a tear, why are we going to do it now and everyone is so tense and he says and i exchanged jokes here and that's a lot different stories, you know, the most important one. in my opinion, this applies not only to the military, but also to the medics, the feds, who are clearing rubble and a lot of people who find themselves in terrible conditions in the ruble, or the most difficult work day, day, day, day, day, this it never ends, it is very important to be with them and to meet them so that they feel that we are all in the same boat, that we all walk this earth and work, that someone supports them so that they are nady, look a-a and someone fights someone writes music and all this is

part of our victory, we see that different artists have chosen very different tactics of behavior after february 24. someone went abroad and, in principle , does not shine. someone performs in ukraine, in particular in front of the military, for example, on what, according to your observations, does this choice depend on which artist makes it? before that i can say for myself, i just feel that here i spend my time much more usefully and see the results of my activities directly because we went abroad, we also played charity tours there and will continue to play, and i understand that it is necessary to collect money, you have to meet with refugees, but nowhere, as in ukraine, i didn’t feel at

home. and when i see the eyes of super tired soldiers, or the square eyes of nurses in towers that are slowly starting to come to life, or people who lived there for months in the subway in the dnipro somewhere a-ah well, i feel that these are much more powerful emotions , much more important, that is, when a guy without two arms, uh, says thank you for coming, hold on there, you understand, well, that is, i think that now he meets musicians abroad for charity concerts and they do it, it's great, it's right and good, but now there aren't enough musicians and artists to do this work. thank you, dmytro, for this conversation and success. thank you . this is a really serious story and an honor and in this role i did not expect to see myself especially during the war but i want to be proud of the results this is

the most important result which will hopefully be like this thank you from the beginning of the full-scale war, the ukrainian diaspora all over the world rallied and launched its own front of aid abroad, diasporans collect money for the needs of the armed forces of ukraine and ukrainian refugees , organize rallies and demonstrations in support of ukraine, oppose russian propaganda and tell foreigners the truth, but how the world congress of ukrainians brings our victory closer natalia tkachuk will tell hundreds of kilometers from their homeland, ukrainians living in different countries of the world from the first days of the war started a campaign in support of ukraine with blue and yellow flags in their hands they went to rallies in washington, chicago , melbourne, paris, berlin, rome and other cities to call on the governments of these countries to help ukraine

fight for independence and democracy, just as our ukrainians went to fight physically, just like our armed forces of ukraine without a call. everyone came out at the moment, there was no hesitation in the same way, the ukrainians of the whole world immediately did everything they could. lida mykyty was born and lives in america. the woman has ukrainian roots and, despite having the citizenship of the united states, considers herself i am ukrainian and feel responsible for the future of ukraine. i grew up in a family in a community. ukraine was important. we learned history, we learned cultures , we learned language. america is also very important, how do i get involved and support america, but for me, my

parents are still the homeland, ukraine is still ukrainian communities in the diaspora. and this is 20 million ukrainians from more than 60 countries of the world, which unites the world congress of ukrainians since the first days of the war, the organization started an initiative called unite with ukraine or unite with ukraine within the framework of this program, ukrainians abroad are collecting funds for our defenders. our first goal was to provide them with equipment and bronze helmets and boots. apparently, they needed walkie-talkies. well, that 's what we collected just for that one action, about 130 million dollars were handed over to the world congress of ukrainians . they are fighting and on the diplomatic front, they are meeting with the leaders of the leading states , organizing actions in support of ukraine's membership in the european union, they are calling for a boycott

of russian business and to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, an action that is tough, in the first place, to work and give a name to inform our politicians, that is, to those people who have a teaching word and we also work a lot at the world congress of ukrainians stefan romaniv lives in australia says that despite the distance between the countries, australians are concerned about the war in ukraine and are donating their own money to help ukrainians on the initiative of the union of ukrainian organizations in australia has already succeeded to collect almost 7 million dollars, our work must continue and we must support ukraine so that ukraine becomes a member. it is clear that this is the work. we stand together with ukraine. representatives of the world

congress of ukrainians say that their next step is to help ukraine rebuild its infrastructure . the collection of funds for this has already started for the public . more details about what is the world congress of ukrainians doing now, let's ask its president pavlo horod, he is not with us on a direct line, mr. pavlo glory to ukraine i congratulate you on the air of the national telethon of glory, it is very nice i would like to ask you from the start how much, if you have such information, in the world congress of ukrainians , how many diaspora ukrainians managed to raise money for these last six months, what is the

russian-ukrainian war going on and what was it spent on? we cleaned up what of those organizations that we know are our constituents. almost 500 million dollars. initially, he collected and this money goes, as was said earlier , to support the defenders, it is for the equipment of technical and material humanitarian support defenders, this is the unitary support of ukraine. this is the purchase of such things as drones, even cars , cars, e-e, fast aid that was going to be concentrated to help the defenders in ukraine , there was also a lot of help for refugees or temporary migrants, and we helped them first at the borders so that our communities in poland, in romania, in

moldova, in hungary, in slovakia, they helped when the refugees were leaving, they came from all sides, now i see when i was just at the border of ukraine, poland, what were ours from our community from portugal from spain who came by bus to help refugees, that is, they opened their minds and helped the thread not only financially with housing, but also strongly beat their governments in their countries to provide maximum protection and even further. this is about this process because there are many and there will be a need in september, when the school year begins, to have access to e-e to to to to schools to have access to e-e even ukrainian-language school, this is very important . to provide temporary migrants with education

so that they feel at home as ukrainians, because our camps were opened this summer, the ukrainian youth camps themselves, where they worked with young ukrainians who came to feel that they were part of a large ukrainian family, that is, in fact, a global diaspora - it is one big the ukrainian world family, mr. pavlenko, and regarding cooperation with the ministry. and i remember that almost two months ago, at the beginning of june, the world congress of ukrainians together with the ministry of veterans signed a certain plan cooperation, in particular with regard to providing high-quality rehabilitation to veterans of the russian-ukrainian war and their family members. can you tell us a little more in detail how the implementation of this plan is progressing now and this process? i want to say that maybe we signed the memorandum two months ago, but

this work has already been going on since the 14th year, when the first was the russian invasion of ukraine, where our diaspora worked with veterans regarding psychological rehabilitation, physical rehabilitation, or was it that our doctors came to practice er, soldiers injured by ukrainians and their families, and this and this process continues. that is, we are finding new ways, as in these conditions, before , doctors could come to ukraine to deal with this psychological rehabilitation and physical rehabilitation, now we are finding other ways or this should take place in poland, should it continue abroad or can it happen in ukraine , now we are specialists abroad who can help the defenders of ukraine. we also work on such very public actions as, say, games

undefeated competitors that again since the 14th year we have been working to help ukrainian athletes who could participate in the undefeated games and in the 25th year the next games of undefeated competitors will be held, where we hope to join this, there are a number of different public organizations that we connect to cooperation with the ministry of veterans regarding this rehabilitation, it is very important that the defenders of ukraine know that no matter what happens to them, that we are ready to support them, and as a ukrainian saint, we will work with by the ministry of veterans to help them . millions of ukrainians were forced to leave their homes and flee the war abroad, and tell me how global ukrainianism as a diaspora helps ukrainian refugees who are currently abroad. i want to start by saying that

we understand the situation of ukrainian refugees very well. my parents will be more women from ukraine after the second world war, where hundreds of thousands were also forced to become refugees, and we will fight so that this will be the last time that ukrainians have to leave their homeland as refugees in order to this is again in our history there has been no work with refugees and at different levels, the first is to find them housing, to find them a way to live , and i think that we have helped quite effectively in this, it was ukrainian organizations as well as community organizations i know even in my own company, energy, there are several of our employees who are not ukrainians who have opened up their thoughts , and we helped in this. the second is to find jobs

for those refugees. to go to the camps as a nursery school, rather, so that they have training, that they have access to education, not only to foreign education in those countries, but also to have experience in ukrainian education, so that they do not lose a year, so that they cannot continue further , because how we will always win and this victory will be, then we want you, those children, to be able to return if they continue their studies so that they do not allow this year of time, obviously also medical help and even psychological help with those refugees because there is a lot of it victims that their fathers or sons or husbands are still fighting at the front that they heard that they have this support and we thank you for this support, a low bow to all ukrainians abroad

who help their compatriots in that and thank you very much and i wish you success in that to everything and pavlo grot, the president of the world congress of ukrainians , was with us on the connection kharkiv, one of the hottest places this spring, they overcome thousands of kilometers escaping from the war, they go to the countries of the european union some of them are blind to their school destroyed by an explosive wave, small refugees were evacuated by buses to lithuania in a few waves ukrainian volunteers children found shelter in lithuania and poland and the morning is their story see more on the air of the national telethon the only news together is the television premiere of the documentary kateryna lyhoglyad and radio svoboda ranok