yes, you also said that you want to live well today, and we have a war, everyone’s attitude to money has changed, everyone has changed in their own way, some have given up traveling, expensive restaurants, well, each in their own way, to a ukrainian, that’s how it has changed in your attitude to money and in general you are saving on something today, look at everything that is economical today, because today the business is not just about you, oh , maybe they gave up on the drivers, er, the chef, look, i still didn’t have enough, and i never did, because my wife cooks for me, and only she gave it to me all the time by cordon came abroad, but today she is in kyiv. because she came, we are starting a school and we , by the way, i don't believe in online education, and we are starting an offline world from the first of september, and look at the school - this is such an institution, if it is not started from september 1, then in the next year, only the premises will remain, so she is here, the teachers are here, we will not have

as many children as before the war, unfortunately, but we will teach them and start, so the wife is here and she cooks. i remember in an interview with yevhen chernyakov that you spend a month $80,100,000 for himself. and how much are they approximately per month today ? after all, i have car drivers there, i will take them. well, i think that 20,000 is enough today, then in 3-4 years, a foreign passport is already there. the cleaning lady works very rarely, because well, there once a week. because we don't need so many children anymore, we don't have a wife, she didn't come, that is, we save money and invest in business very correctly, the right message that every ukrainian should hear, some of them, yes, on easter, it is possible if we have already started about business, look, there are many opportunities, i see

that today there are many organizations in ukraine. it starts from google to our digital ministry. they have grants, you know how many she counted 28 organizations . uah up to 8 million , that is, if you, er, make some kind of production from wood in order not to export logs and create 30 jobs, then they give you up to 8 million. this is free money , you understand. yes, i want to say what is necessary, please show people to apply if you, if they were refused, there is no need to complain, we need to change the plan and apply to one instance, we need to be persistent, that is, your

concept that we are now building a foundation that will give us the opportunity to grow there e- there will be significant growth there in 10-15 years, but there is this day. yes, i spoke with one of the businessmen involved in the light industry, he frankly says that the state now has money only for the army and to supply some goods and earn at least something. to keep an enterprise and reflect the cost of products there, you can only use this money for everything else people do not have money and this applies to any industry today, but in today's conditions, of course yes, we should develop investment projects there and start building large ones there plans for the development of the country, but today, where is a business to look for an opportunity to earn in conditions when, well, every day, and it can even be seen from the donations of people there, the support of the army is less, less, well,

look , i will give you such an example. apartment and i i was there, the company supported him, gave him uah 150,000 or uah 200, he did some repairs, he says, vasyl, come to me, come to me, come to me last week, well, first of all, irpin lives, there are people there, a dental clinic is opening, a dental clinic has opened, some cafe has opened, some more i can already see where it was destroyed, the glass has been changed, the doors have been changed, the ukrainians are already moving, i like it. they complain a little later, but they actually work, they are doing something, there is still a war in ukraine, they are already starting to do something from under it is nice to me now look at the way it used to be, unfortunately, it can’t be now yes, if i used to earn some millions of

hryvnias , that is, today, hundreds of thousands. experience is a very good example. i have a factory in bila tserkva. i have 49% and 51 two young guys. they produce aluminum ladders. i like it because you used to. they make it in ukraine, they create jobs, i like it, i went to them, now before the war they paid 32,000 for the equipment that makes it, it makes stirrups, well, it’s a little different, but they paid, the war started, now they have a challenge of 70,000, do i have to pay extra, or will the chinese return it ? half and they took a loan, they settled and you buy equipment, they say, i’m talking, look , guys, you understand that the market fell four times, she

says yes, vasylovich, the market fell four times, but the competitors left, the turks do not supply ladders the poles do not supply, i.e., four times as much to the market, but we will enter the market, people will get used to us until it starts working and we will be in the market, well done, well done, well done, and this is what they are creating today yes, pay taxes, produce, support my team i like the boys, so before the war, your company taught its employees about an uncertain future. there, for two hours a day, we talked about what such trainings were and prepared our managers. we taught them about an uncertain future. now the war has come. such training helped because the managers left your employees. how do you cope with such challenges? see we have many challenges. we have hindu industrial parks. parking technology worked for a foreigner and

today, unfortunately, i have lost almost 70% of the team. this is a big thing for me, but look, so we went abroad, someone quit, someone already got us well, we ca n't receive yes, but look, they don't work, but we are still one team, if you call someone, he helps you helps you we are looking new opportunities between us, and this is for me, it's nice for me because, well, today we have a war, but you know what's going on in the world with the economy, you understand that today you are in america, in america, it's the first time there in 50 years. they immediately have inflation and a crisis, economically a crisis, it’s generally they are now raising the interest rate for the bank and reducing inflation and there will be unemployment, some business will be closed that during covid they

printed money to develop the citizens yes this was caused today they are shaking the americans even you are fleeing to mexico we are there more favorable conditions were repaired first in general. well, let's finish. let him flee to us with experience. we will gladly accept it. we need it. we need the experience of other countries, because it is. a mistake because the money goes to the person recognized if he knows how to attract how to do the project then he will be given the money so he says give me the money you don't need to teach me he will never get it it's only friends a short break i think it's very interesting we have a conversation and we will be back in a few minutes watch the project to find your kateryna osadchai from the search for the missing every monday at 9:30 p.m. it is

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news together we are strong 1+1 returns to air night on guard natalya ostrovska, me and franplinsky are visiting us , vasyl khmelnytskyi, a businessman, an entrepreneur, we are talking about the realities of business in the conditions of war and you say that it is very nice to see how small there are coffee shops, some small businesses are starting to work, the energy of ukrainians, that's all that's all right, but we have a foundation for our economy, there is a foundation that fills our budget , we have heavy industry, the agrarian sector , and if we take metallurgy, for example, there are small theses, numbers, and production of mining and beneficiation plants has decreased by 75% since the beginning of the war, and the production of metallurgy has decreased by 84% in ukraine, and yet any medium-sized enterprises exist

on the basis of the successful work of heavy, large enterprises. in us with what should we do, we understand what’s with them what should we do with it e do we somehow need to try to restore metallurgy heavy industry or e immediately using this precedent to reorient the economy to other rails to other basic some foundation basic things well look it’s terrible that we only metallurgical enterprises were lost, it's bad, but it's also bad that it's a foundation, well, it shouldn't be a foundation, if we talk about salt, what kind of economy is it, it's bad that we grow wheat and send wheat abroad, we have to do many, many different types of processing. for example, eh turkey is the second country in the world in terms of art. where does it buy wheat? but it buys part of it from ukraine

, and we need to process flour and make some products from flour, and then we will create many jobs, and it is also metallurgy. business e.e. the business part if it is profitable for business let it build large youth factories if it is profitable let it not build because in the economy it is very dangerous if, for example, there are inexpensive na-industry and 80% of it consumes these products domestically because if in our country 90 export is dangerous, that is, if the markets fall, then we, er, we have a lot of marisms, i see that we in ukraine need to make a condition for the construction of thousands and there may be tens of thousands of factories that make various products and small ones. i don't know where it starts it starts with those ladders, there can be a stack of such buckets, pliers, shovels, because we buy

all that we import, yes, that is, we need many small enterprises to produce, where the economy will be weighed and will be balanced, because today this is how we produce metal, but the markets have fallen and we we don't have a demand for foreign currency, we need to change the concept if it is profitable for business let it be built and i will produce metallurgical plants let it be built, but if it is not profitable, let it not be built and the state should support the construction of small small enterprises that will manufacture products or process agricultural products to make a product well, for example, corn, you hear there , e-e, send it in bags if you can do it, it is not there for pop feed or some oil from corn or something else, we need it, we really need processing, for example, why it goes now doesn't exist yes yes we love everything fast fast what do you remember there used

to be a law that did not allow us to export sunflower and this law was broken and today we are the third country in the world in processing sunflower oil, you understand yes we it was purchased only in factories because it is not possible and this is great . now 50% of the world market is our sunflower oil and that is cool. that is why we need to do some things and the state is doing it today . furniture, the state can give you grants, it can give you some kind of concessional credit, and this is the first step. well, we now have even more incredible access to european markets, customs duties on ukrainian products were canceled, and if 5-10 years ago, there was a product with the name medi-yu country a - and i called everyone the only question is what is it today, on this wave of patriotism, the world supports ukraine, it's incredible. do you remember on the air we counted uh, if you take a

ton of uh, wheat, sell it there for one price, if you turn it into uh, flour, grind it it gives 10 times more profit there if you use this flour to make pasta, it’s 50 times, so the sixth come make frozen croissants and deliver it by height there and 10 times more, you can earn three each, yes, each step is additional now, but we have been a raw material economy all our lives well, we can really push this train from the moment we love production, step by step, look again, i will come back to this knowledge. look, unfortunately, we don’t have, for example, business education, so where in the state there is a very strong flow, it should be. well, somehow, we should push business education, because we are in post-soviet ukraine still thinking, yes, he doesn’t really like

business, there is production. they think it’s some kind of fraud, or business, the basis of the economy and growth, it’s jobs, it’s taxes, without business , the state can’t work at all, and even more so today we can't attract foreign investment, well, it's frank, but they are cool, smart ukrainians, they go abroad for education and say that they will return with new ideas, but they don't come back , they stay there like that, look, that's our problem, it's our problem as a state, because they say that, please come back, because we need in ukraine for you young people to return. but it won't work. we have to create the conditions for them to earn money here, to feel protected, and there are only conditions for another way, and then when they see that they poland earns less than ukraine, they will come with experience. well, there is a lot of talk now about it business, yes, it business, high-tech business, you

were engaged in the construction of industrial parks, i knew your project in bila tserkva, industrial it is an innovation park innovative , yes, this is inertia, and i didn’t do it, but i am doing it, he thinks that he will do it, you know, we constantly say that because there is life before the war, there is life in the conditions of the war, and will it work after you were there dozens of foreign companies, you dreamed that after all from poland from america well, i understand that you wanted to create a ukrainian silicon valley, not one to the other, but you wanted our young specialists, scientists and talents to be comfortable working in ukraine. today, in such a country, the economic recession may be very big, because many companies left, i saw a study somewhere that

50 to 57,000 people left aitishnikov, and this is very bad for us, because these young people are smart and, unfortunately, they do not care where to work. they are poland sat down in a co-working space with computers and our challenge is big. after that, he and she will finish making speeches for him. they came back, and some of them came back, then do some training, very powerful courses where we will train new it specialists, and this is also our challenge, because e- the world, i agree, we must understand that the world is moving fast and there are many problems in the world, that is, today they are there, tomorrow there are some problems, they did not come to us, and then they left, they must come to us , and here such conditions are such opportunities that they they say they called and they say you are coming to ukraine , these are the conditions, these are the conditions, well, look, taxes

, security, medicine, because it is not enough to give a person so that he earns well, he must also be protected, medicine must be at a high level, education must be children went to kindergarten so that it would be a modern education, because unfortunately, i studied the experience of finland, you know that in finland the teacher is like god , and there are all kinds of people in finland . i will give an example very cool, my wife built a school, well, such a modern school in canadian - canadian education was based on one of our universities, where educators are trained, we gathered 30 people who are graduating and, well, make a presentation. they say, look

, young people, you can. in 3-4 years you will be taught how to earn a good living modern school what do you think out of 30 uh students how many came up and said i want to try what do you think 10 but what do you think further zero so you see zero because they are not going to work as teachers, someone is going to be a babysitter and someone has already made an agreement there, someone is coming - they are not going to work in their school, not sure, sure, they entered somewhere, they did not enter, then they took it there . education is bad teacher - i agree, it is like god, he makes the future of our country and it is necessary to change salaries and change the approach and wash away education because we have

post-soviet education, it is no longer modern, there is also good mathematics we have it, but we need is after the war, do not rebuild, but build the newest, take the best experience, because it is there in our country , continuing the topic of the conditions that we have to create here in ukraine in order for business to go, various companies went there to quote a recent statement of the european business associations, the tax block currently has several acute problems in - first, the situation with the registration of tax invoices with vat, many companies for various reasons, e.e., in particular, due to a lack of funds on the accounts, it was not possible to register the invoices. and those who managed to do so are faced with the situation of their blocking in this context, the association calls on the tax office to return to the usual dialogue, which is currently needed more than ever in order to promptly solve all problematic issues and not to create unnecessary pressure on companies, all about what uh, buns, yes, in simple words, we can

talk in ukraine when directly under we understand the time of war, but the prime minister comes out and says that foreign partners help us financially only for social payments. yes, the grants that go to the aid are only for support social benefits and support of the budget are not the military part of it, but to finance the army and support the war, and financially we have it ourselves, and the tax system in our country is starting to work as it always works as before, yes, that is, better . they have not changed how they worked before there are people who have habits who have experience so they put it into practice that is why we need to rebuild everything in a new way and it will not be easy but i want to give advice to businessmen do not wait for some kind of help, but do not wait because i today i see a lot of people saying that the marshall plan

will be a trillion 100 billion and everyone is waiting. look, maybe it will happen, maybe it won’t happen. maybe it will happen, but we will build roads to the country. businesses should look for opportunities inside, but even the richest people surprised us. ukraine is on the list of forbes who are selling their companies and even tv companies are also crying . it turns out that the rich are also crying. and in general, there is now this forbes list, and did you not surprise the action of certain richest ukrainians with the law on oligarchs? i think you are saying this, but it is so for example, if you have a small business, you earn less. but you have less workload, for example, i have 200 million dollars in loans for the entire company, you understand, yes, this is a very

large company. how can i prove millions , you understand, god, for a utility company, you are accumulating to keep on the forbes list, uh, there were uh, look, i'm not very strong, very powerful magazine, but there are no debts there , and we don't see, we see people's fortunes, not no let's see how much they owe, then everything changes because the problem is personal, how to calculate. for example, we have solar stations. what do we have in kherson? well, what about the costs? i think it's a waste, they don't work, god forbid, what will happen when we take kherson? they will be undamaged. and if they are damaged, then i am not worried. the main thing for me is that the war ends, that we win. if i lose all my fortune, then i. believe me, my experience is such that i will start from scratch and in 5 years it will be the same as today, i am not afraid of it you know finally we want one more post of yours quote show it to the audience

and it caught my attention you posted a photo with a book by jara diamond very smooth moments in countries experiencing a crisis and you give an example of countries such as finland, germany, usa, japan, indonesia, australia, how they overcame this difficult crisis but if you carefully read this book and your post, it becomes clear that each country had its own path and none of them repeated the recipe of another country, but under these conditions, what two or three theses can be a recipe for success for ukraine a quick way out of this extremely difficult crisis. well , look, because all countries are different, people are different, they have different experiences, different cultures, so it does not repeat itself, but look at germany, this is a very good example, they lost everything after the war, you understand, yes , germany was torn there into western and eastern and look what they did they stopped complaining they didn't fight with their neighbors they concentrated

on developing their economy and when they grew fast very fast but you only time when the whole land was united again one germany again i would like to say that today is a good example. ukraine has united all ordinary people and businessmen and civil servants. everyone is working. the enemy was not able to win so that we could win, but if this is still the case in the economy after the war, then in our country. there is a chance, we have a chance to build a very powerful country. but if after the war we have to contest, choose who did more, 100 less quarrels, fight for power, then we will return to what we had in the past, and this confuses me a little. our slogan business is the foundation of the state's existence, it is actually confirmed, friends, let's see among the huge number of terrible problems

, let's look for opportunities to push the country forward , develop it. well, let's hope from the state that this problem with which we started the discussion about the state sees itself differently. we let's change somehow and say that everything is so bad to go and work to do something take and do that's how we do thank you ostrovska ihor ukrainian vasyl khmelnytskyi businessman entrepreneur was on the air until we meet watch the project to find your kateryna osadchai from the search for the missing so that monday at 21:30 the independence of local choice to prepare your future of your country no one is asked if i will allow it is a sense of algae that responsibility it is the values ​​that you profess and these are the heroes that you choose in yourself a sense of dignity, we are all with you, we are all one

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of sports, angels of ukraine for more than 160 days without a day off. one step away from danger, we will walk more than two thousand kilometers along the front line - the commander of a reconnaissance group with the call sign manol risks his life every day and every day he says i am not tired, i am not tired of defending ukraine in the most difficult times for the country, i am loyal only to the armed forces, but thousands of ukrainians are also looking for work within themselves