after the audience, they are all physicists, where everyone may have studied physics well at school, er, gas radiation , although it is invisible to the human eye, but it is also the same as light, that is, there can be a shadow, it can be protected by er, some kind of barrier, for example, our modern residential the houses of these are made of clay or reinforced concrete, they are quite weakened , that is, from external use that is around external control therefore er and again the analogy with light if you have some such shadowed corner in your apartment then oh if they will interrupt us there then this is already sufficient protection from the outside day inhalation intake so-called from breathing in an open area even no, well, it is quite close to the source of the emission, it does not have

a decisive role because the idea of ​​diluting radioactivity and getting into the body is quite small, but it is very an important factor, at least that's what chernobyl showed, that's why another protective protective protection from the west is er stop consuming vegetables and milk and who. if someone wants to need for feeding a child, for example, milk, you should take long-term storage milk with a production period before the accident , that is, they will be clean you can safely take the next step - to be, well, again, to be in shelter as much as you can, and to seal the room so that air does not enter, although again, this is through the path of entry

radioactive dust is quite easy to do, there is nothing extraordinary here, and the main thing is to wait for the official evacuation, because once again chernobyl showed that those people who tried to evacuate on their own, they rushed, they tried different roads, some of them were very polluted, so during the official evacuation there will be a safe route has been chosen and one must obey and drive and besides, hide in one's home and not go near the windows how did mr. vadyma say that and once again i want to repeat my question, but where are the most dangerous here are these regions and what dose of radiation ukrainians can receive in these different regions, because this is the whole scenario that you have just written out what to do to people and gave advice on how to act in the event that an accident does happen at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. but we hope that this it will not apply to all residents of ukraine. is

this advice for those who live there, for example, closer to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant? look, that's why i didn't give a clear answer to your question, because there is no answer. what's the point? well, let's imagine what happened, the accident, the radioactivity that is stored inside the reactor got into the environment and began to be carried with the air masses, first of all, where it will go depends on the wind and weather conditions, because it's one thing if the reactivity it's just somewhere in the stratosphere, relatively speaking, at an altitude of a few kilometers, it's not sent anywhere, but it doesn't pose a threat, the biggest threat is when this reactivity begins to fall on the area, that is, these radionukes, people, aerosols, they start gradually er, settle here, too, there is such a factor, will it be

er, so-called dry precipitation, that is, simply without rain , it is more uniform, slower, and the other way is er, so-called wet precipitation, if it rained in this place where there was rain, it will directly radioactive , quite active, can be dangerous, and therefore predict in advance where it will go. will it rain? it is very difficult, that's why i said that the first thing for people, the first protection is to hide and wait for official information. during this time, dosimeters will come, bring intelligence, determine what were the falls where they were er which er roads were still free from these fallouts because chernobyl had four possible evacuation routes, one of them was planned one unplanned one to kyiv and there was a planned one to polisky , there were civil defense plans as you said and two

other er such ones they were improvised like that. so, the planned round-trip and unplanned ones on er to kyiv, they turned out to be quite dangerous, because there were exactly traces of the fallout, because the first most powerful trace from chernobyl, this emission was it was in the western direction, exactly in the direction of polisky, and the route on kyiv it passes through a red forest and everyone knows that's why you can't even water it, so you can clearly say in advance how and where to evacuate, where it will be safe, where it will be dangerous, you need to give a little time to the specialists so that they can figure out what happened, where the fallout went in the eye, and then it's time to make a decision for the safe, for the dangerous, this is the main message, that is, we can't predict anything, that's why this is the diagram that is written literally on a daily basis. a former ukrainian should know now, the truth. that

's right, because the situation is very dynamic. well , first of all, for those who studied physics, we can say that we are happy with radioactive nuclides. for example, cesium and strontium - it is about 30 years, and it is eight days, there are even shorter-lived ones, the main rule is that the shorter this half-life, the more activity in practice for in our scenario, this means that if there is a fallout and there is a very high activity at the beginning. but fortunately , these are the most active radionuclides, they will decay the fastest. lotto in a certain time, in a fairly short time, in a few days, the activity will be much less than at the beginning but here, too, it should be borne in

mind that this scenario of a reactor accident, uh, it involves a long-term release and of my reactor, this is a repeated event, uh, therefore, here and for this, specialists are needed, and the same hydrometer that will calculate where the activities are transferred, and a desimetist and pension protection experts in order to assess the important impact and choose the best option for protecting the population, mr. vadim. is it necessary to have this household dosimeter at home to check the radiation background ? developed countries, such as japan, also happened in hochkoh, the initial accident is chaos, panic, some unforeseen events in japan turned off the electricity supply, all

the hotels were left without a working condition the black swan will not fly over us. that's why we need to rely on an official source, but it 's better to insure yourself with your own device. and another thing - it's true that these devices are not effective, for example , for assessing the contamination of food products, but when moving on pollution the area, did the cloud come at all, did the cloud come, did the cloud already rise in the fund, did it not rise? well, for this, these devices are very, very useful and should not be neglected . you need to have this at home and use it in the event of an accident, these means of protection, they provide a certain protection, not always guaranteed against inhalation , that is, with breathing, but again, i emphasize that in an open area, it is quite a

few kilometers from the source of emission this is no longer the main pathoradiation, that is, it will give a reduction, but this reduction will be on the cyst percentage or on the fraction of the percentage, then it is not a lot of inconvenience, much more than the benefits of this. but the protection of the thyroid gland is very much my protection this is the use of iodine preparations, and as far as i know, preparations are now underway, these preparations have already been purchased, delivered where needed, they are stored , and if there is a threat of a jet accident, then at the very beginning, at the very beginning, you have to live, eat potassium according to a certain dosage, an overdose is also dangerous , and then there will be protection for the thyroid gland glands, because i told you. of course, we will talk about it later today. thank you for your advice and for the fact that you are always ready to join our broadcast. thank you. goodbye and i want to remind you that i was in touch with us

vadim chumak, doctor of biological sciences, head of the external radiation dosimetry laboratory of the national research center of radiation medicine of the national academy of medical sciences of ukraine, so i hope that from our conversation you understood what the main rules are, if you hear about the fact that there was an accident at the nuclear power plant, you need to stay in shelters and follow official sources of information do not go outside do not approach the windows literally hide somewhere as mr. vadim said in the dark a corner or in a room where all the windows are closed or there are none at all. we continue our program. today we are talking about what to do in the event of a radiation threat and how to survive, and due to radiation exposure, a person may have disturbances in the vital functions of various organs, such as organs of

hematopoiesis, nervous systems of the gastrointestinal tract and others, and radiation sickness can also develop. there is no treatment for radiation, but there are barriers that can protect against its effects , as well as drugs that help remove a certain percentage of radiation from the body, what can be done to reduce the harmful effects of this lesion , we will find out now and contact us, director of the institute of clinical radiology of the national scientific center of radiation medicine, anatoly chumak, mr. anatoly, i greet you . good morning, mr. anatoly. so , please tell me what happens to the human body in the first minutes of exposure, before we talk in detail about what happens to the human body, let's make such a move as

they say in music that everything depends on the conditions under which the exposure occurs, in what dose this exposure occurs, and how ready the person who is exposed to this exposure is to the perception of customers, mr. anatoly, eh, i can't hear you and you hear us, mr. anatoly, and then please repeat again, because the connection disappears, i can't hear you well. i want to say that you know how gamzatov grew up. reservations you are a sign of wisdom a

not corruption to everyone, so with regard to radiation, everything depends on how consciously a person perceives the radiation effect and how much he is afraid of it or after it he will eat it, the more effect this effect will have. exist, radiation affects those cells that are subjected to an intense point - these are cells, depending on what will be here and the degree may be an optical effect, when the effect will necessarily be,

please ask questions anatoliy, i would still like to find out what happens to the body in the first minutes and you know the connection is very bad, so let's go and we don't have much time, in fact, that's why i just want to give people today as much advice as possible so that people can understand how to protect themselves and what to do already now, if it is necessary to do this, first of all, all protective measures must be applied not only by themselves, but only when it is announced by the so -called information king, in our case, the state service for medlyakin situations if the state service for emergency situations says that it is necessary to carry out iodine

prophylaxis, then only in such conditions it is necessary to take it. so here it is constantly . have disappeared from the shelves of pharmacies and is it possible to somehow replace them and take something else in the event of an accident and here is what the emergency services say that you need to start taking potassium iodide in the surrounding areas observation near nuclear power plants, there are stocks of it there, you don’t need to run to the pharmacy and buy those stocks of potassium iodide, they are stocked simply through the local service eh dsn through the local case

they need to be changed mr. anatolia eh continue, please, you said that there are stocks yes now they will try to establish contact with mr. anatoly, because he is simply not there, and today i want to remind you that we are talking about how to act in the event of a radiation threat, if, for example, an accident at a nuclear power plant does happen. what is a radiation accident? it is a violation of the rules of safe operation of a nuclear power plant, equipment or, for example, a device that caused the release of radioactive products or ionizing radiation beyond the safety limits and an accident

. what we are talking about today has already been understood with you what is radiation and how is it harmful and now we are talking about can we protect ourselves from it and do we need to do it, for example, in advance and what should be done and we are still trying to get in touch with anatoly chumak, the director of the institute of clinical radiology of the national scientific center of radiation medicine of the national academy of medical sciences of ukraine, mr. anatoly, you hear me well. thank you, mr. anatoly, look, i want you also ask why we were talking about what, uh, can it be replaced, you said that in these regions , yes, which are closer to the question, it is called the thirty-kilometer observation zone, what are the people there

they must provide but in the first half of our program we talked about the fact that we do not know what the natural conditions will be, we do not know where the cloud will go or whether there will be rain or not. and therefore we cannot say with confidence that some region of ukraine is more protected there and some are less protected uh, but i understand you correctly, but you need to take these drugs and one prevention is only uh, in surveillance zones, only in zones only where there is a threat of radioactive iodine release and quite high levels, if there is no uh, iodine write well, i just know that people already now , as i told you, that there are no more drugs containing potassium iodine of this kind on the shelves of pharmacies,

because it has disappeared, this potassium iodide has simply been bought up, and people are already independently now wanting to know whether it is necessary take it in advance and someone is already trying to do it, and those who did not find potassium iodide say that they will take iodine solution, but doctors say that it is not effective. in any case no signal about the danger of thrown rocket iodine , you can't take anything. no, nika's iodine is the only one. if there is this signal, then you need to take one 125 mg figure as recommended. yes,

i don't hear again. anatoly, we will try again . i hear you now and then i don't, so i think our viewers do too. somewhere you lose connection. so there is no need to accept anything on your own. yes, nothing , only if there is a national team , or a regional team, whatever the need is. to take ion drugs if we talk about well if we simulate such a command comes in there is no and again and again there is no sound p anatolia if a command comes in and we hear nothing more yes then we have to

accept the answer yes 125 kg or half heads 250 hryvnias it is if a person and then she can mothers she can take 40% to 40 she can take these sides of youtube in the swamp but it will be a more psychotherapeutic measure but a person believes it that it will not block the thyroid but psychological

look mr. anatoliy i know about what else iodide potassium is not recommended for people to use if they are already over 40 years old. why can’t this be done because the exchange of iodine at that age already takes place by slightly different mechanisms and still radioactive youtube is not so harmful for such people of this age, only those when very large doses of radioactive iodine are prescribed, then people over 40 years old are also recommended for people over 40 years old, an example of drugs based on the calculation is that children need to take potassium iodide in general, but if you are talking about those zones about which we said radiation lesions that are the closest, do children need

to take potassium iodide? yes, just like children and women, pregnant women and those who are breastfeeding should be taken, but only once because repeated doses can greatly affect the development of the thyroid gland in children yes, mr. anatoly, and if a woman is older than 40 years, for example, but she is pregnant and breast-feeding, it is possible to only have a one-time use for a long time , for example, red wine reduces the effect of radiation on the human body, can you say whether

is it true? no, it has not been proven that it reduces the effect of radiation. but again, here it is necessary to take into account the powerful psychotherapeutic effect because of the fact that people, if a person believes, he believes that he will save you, a radiator, and a psychologist in general again there is no sound p anatoly we just have some kind of mystery today, er, i actually want to thank you for being with us today and for your advice and i hope we will make a connection with you and try to figure out what was wrong with the connection tongue and we will definitely give more more advice to ukrainians about how to save yourself, i thank you, mr. anatoly, for being in touch with us today . so today we told you about how

to calculate the required dose of potassium, how to do it, i hope this will be reported and the special services of the state emergency service will tell you what to do and how to take special drugs. but the most important thing is that you do not need to do this on your own. you cannot take potassium iodide drugs on your own, even for the sake of prevention, it is taken once only after notification according to official authorities, it is optimal to take potassium iodide six hours before exposure to radioactive iodine, and given the low probability of predicting such a situation, it can be assumed that there is a time interval for taking the drug from 24 hours before the moment of radioactive iodine entering the body to 8 hours after its exposure later

taking the drug is very harmful to the body, you also need to know this, and in any case, you still need to wait for the announcement of the official local authorities about the start iodine prophylaxis, what to do for those who have already taken potassium iodide prophylactically, for example, drank for 5 days, if you have already taken potassium iodide daily in a full dose of 125 mg, then you should immediately stop taking it, and since it is impractical, overdose is harmful and is a very large burden on the thyroid gland . if you used other means with a much lower dose of the active substance, then do not pay attention to it and you need to follow the current instructions regarding iodine prophylaxis with the recommended drug e-e pharmaceutical form

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