it is the task of the ambassador and the minister of foreign affairs and the president and the entire ukrainian society to engage in these plans to bring them closer together because the support of such an authoritative international figure as the pope is still recognized all over the world, for them we forget that the pope is translated true not this one, but ivan paul ii overlapped, applied himself to the huge cause of the collapse of the soviet union, that is, their efforts, we see the result of their efforts, and if the pope of today stood up, you know so clearly on the side of ukraine, there would surely be more countries that would listen to the position of such an authoritative international figure as the pope and his

car, not only in the fact that he actually has almost two billion e-e from the totality of e-e community of catholics e and therefore that he is still such an important political figure due to his status as the head of a theocratic state, there are few such states left in the world, but he is still a political figure and he belongs to this society of political leaders and without a doubt, his opposition, his point of view affects other presidents, other prime ministers , and the reasons are, i say, that many here turn to his background, his education, his age , and the fact that he is a member of the societies of the jesuit order and

many others find reasons to say that his behavior and his mentality are due to the circumstances in which he grew up and in which he was brought up, but we would like you to know that these circumstances are still contextualized so that well, after all, you know war they don't happen every day, especially the war that is currently being waged between russia and ukraine is not a local conflict, it is already growing into a world conflict, and we are talking about the fact that now the war is not only a world war, it is a civilizational war, in fact, they clashed here on our eastern borders, see the implementation, it is a european one according to its principles and

values ​​of democracy and respect for human dignity, appreciation of human life with eurasianism that absolutely does not value human beings that consider them as a cog in a huge system and we know the name this system is the neo-imperial system of the russian empire, which later grew into the soviet union. and now it is represented by the russian federation, that is, by the russian federation, and ludmila. here i apologize to mrs. ludmila. and how do you feel about such opinions in general about the fact that the pope has ambitions to mediate precisely between ukraine and russia. he is just trying to sit on two chairs so that later he can take this function for himself.

as you know, it has existed in the vatican since very ancient times, and in particular, it is about the convergence of the catholic and the orthodox churches in order to return to the beginning that every christian prays for when i pronounce the creed, which speaks of faith in the one cathedral church and that schism that took place in 1054, every pope tries to overcome. so, the current pope also hopes that it will be possible not only to overcome the schism. well, you know, to reach some kind of understanding, to reach an agreement, that's why he responded to this meeting, which took place in the 16th year in havana and these are all the years i have been doing it for six years, he hopes to

repeat the same step that was taken 6 years ago, but literally at the last minute a meeting was planned with kazakhstan at a huge inter- religious forum held by kazakhstan is the initiator when the leaders of the world's religious communities gather, er, er, patriarch kirill refused to come to er, this summit. well, accordingly, there is no reason for him to go there and the pope, who hoped to meet there with the head of the moscow patriarchate, this politician is, you know, somewhat justified from the point of view of christianity, because christians live with the idea of ​​communism, that is, after all, the convergence of the combination of the community of all christians around jesus

christ around the original church that was was also created by jesus christ, well, if jesus christ himself did not create this church, but bequeathed it to be created, but you know, it seems to me that today's vatican generally lacks an understanding of, well, a certain experience of communicating with eastern christianity and with by orthodox christianity, i.e. in how many years this was the first time that a meeting between a catholic and an orthodox of the moscow patriarchate took place in the harbor that they know about russia only what is reported to them through the mass media, specifically the russian mass media and russian information centers. and this information is strange, that is, russian

federation, ah, i'm from this, i wanted to ask you something else, because there is another version that the pope doesn't really understand the subject , he doesn't understand what kind of war is going on now on the territory of ukraine, he is very poorly informed despite the fact that he has already communicated more than once with the wives of military azov soldiers and well, he had communications, but he actually does not understand his last statement about daria dugina, as it were , he thought it was a child, because the russians the liberals said that what is the matter with the diet , he thought that it was a child. you assume that he is simply very incompetent and that these statements are due to incompetence, er, i assume this, but this is a problem not only for the pope, let's tell the truth let's say and who understands what is happening here with us , the head of the ukrainian

orthodox church, metropolitan onufriy, and let's say his bishopric, if they understood what was happening, that what was going on was the destruction of ukraine, the ukrainian people, and the ukrainian culture, then surely they would not have destroyed anything in ukraine with these crusades where they pray for some illusory peace between the aggressor and between the victim, between the rapists and those who are raped because of that, you don't need to blame him, i mean the pope of rome, that he does not understand that many in the world doesn't understand, that's why i would advocate for the pope to come to ukraine on a visit so that he could be shown the cities of germany. it's a shame that he won't be able to see mariupol, of which there are actually none left, according to the most modest estimates , about 50,000 people simply killed. and

how many more are still missing? it is not known. in addition to this, you see, there is a certain orientation. well, the orientation of the pope is not that he seeks to find certain allies in the fight against secularization and liberalization, which today what today europe is full, and it is in the moscow patriarchate that he found such allies in those fundamental orthodox who are categorically against the west, they consider the west and also the home to be the cause of absolutely all sins. although i think that there is no less sin in russia than in western europe. well and besides, you see, it is also not people who are self- oriented, the pope, you know, is such an idealist , such a romantic, well, let’s say a pure christian, he cannot believe how it is possible to instrumentalize the church for fighting and for

killing, for the destruction of another people, he cannot to understand how the church can be used for propaganda purposes, that is, for him faith is something sacred and cannot be used for evil. he believes that christianity only calls for good and that is why they come out, well, something is idealistic. damn, he thought that he was nothing he did not know about her imperialism and her propagandistic role in the affirmation of these imperial ideas, but he probably does not understand in what form this affirmation takes place, what role her father also played in this - this is her dasha dugilna, alexander, and she is actually one she herself, now is not the time for neutrality, which is going to and wants to preserve the pope, he

seems to be balancing between russia, ukraine, between those who support this aggression, between those who feel sorry for the victim, and we should not feel sorry for ourselves, we are capable of defending ourselves, but we for justice and for the truth, we are for the world , including the pope, to finally find, well, get out of the influence of this russian lobby, which is very strong in the vatican and imposes on him what they want to impose on him, that we are equals who are guilty turns out to be on the one hand, with our people, which putin already increased to a million with his latest orders, how can you tell me that both sides are to blame, there is an aggressor in this war, there is a cause, there is

a consequence, so, well, that's all considering everything- anyway, ukrainians have already started to be consistent enough in defending their position and they already know that they are not silent as before because it was once believed that everything the pope said is true and the only true and holy thing, it happens that even the popes are wrong and that's exactly what this war and its assessment from the vatican is just right shows that our diplomats in our society need to be more active in conveying true information about what is happening here in ukraine . what colossal challenges our state is facing, in particular, we are now holding this onslaught, you know, this eurasianism, this savagery

, and if ukraine fell believe me, he wouldn't stop later, he intends to go further and started absolutely absolutely agree with you or thank you, we've run out of time, i listened to you again and again well, by the way, i will tell you that i will remind our viewers that his beatitude svyatoslav actually, after this holy procession, he told us quite correctly, but decisively, that he considers such an idea to be untimely and ambiguous, one that does not take into account the context of russia's military aggression against ukraine, so there is a certain communication idea here, let's hope that at all levels, we continue to continue to defend as you can see, many people really did not understand your position, and people should remember this, ms. lyudmila , thank you once again, or we were in touch with lyudmila filippovich, religion is known, and she explained to the maximum of all the motivations of pope

francis, whom ukrainians are once again criticizing, and let's move on to the two latin letters that look like ise. unfortunately, we know these letters perfectly. a russian writer and a literary critic the day before. he gave another interview on this topic . ukrainians have been talking about this book for a long time, and by the way, there are rumors about what exactly because of this book, the so-called law on books, the book law, which volodymyr zelenskyi has not signed until now, since june . but actually bykov talks about this book

. he didn’t take ukrainians and he didn’t take zelensky and he won’t coordinate it with him for this book with various people in particular well, for example, he spoke to the registrar for four hours , but he says that zelensky is just a very famous and interesting figure, he has a lot of luck and also he has his own interest, or so zelenskyi has proven to everyone that representatives of the creative intelligentsia can be in leadership positions, before that it was thought that they could not, let's listen to an excerpt from the interview of the recent dvorskyi intsiligantsy, who proved in our time that it is a representative of the borscht incident for which freedom and honor not empty words, they should be obliged to recruit voglasti, because they are the only people who believe in themselves.

a man who believed that he was a hero and became a hero , these accusations of a serious attitude towards the creative intelligentsia have a rather ironic look, because bykov perceives zelensky precisely without understanding ukrainian internal political , economic and other processes. it seems to me that he evaluates him precisely on the basis of his creative component he did not have time to understand his speeches in terms of the general image and internal situations, and in particular , a's criticism of volodymyr zelenskyi, which is now sounding the same for a while, actually of course, volodymyr zelenskyi’s speeches are wonderful, there is nothing to say, but there are simply other aspects. well, hmm, he actually says dmitry bykov that the discrediting of volodymyr zelenskyi is done incompetently. well, even though he is talking specifically about the russians, about the discrediting by the russians. by the way, he compares zelenskyi with churchill well, this is a very

popular comparison, but let's listen to what exactly bykov means. no, when ukrainians call zelensky our cherchil t-shirt, they are certainly speaking closer to the truth and i want to remind you that churchill, too, all the time, they slandered him in painting , then his passion with a loud phrase, then his oratorical art, then his uninterrupted er-er publication, we called him a graphoman, he writes the history of the first world war to the second, so churchill just proved this critical moment, the nation must be led by an artist, and this well, i will say that these comparisons with churchill are completely incorrect from my point of view, because winston churchill gradually immersed himself in politics and before becoming a politician he was a political journalist, a military journalist , a writer, and he was well versed in this topic, but

actually our president, he literally jumped into politics very quickly, and about dmytro bykov, i will also say that, by the way, he is quite well versed in ukrainian literature, not bad for a foreigner and he very often expresses his point of view on various ukrainian writers. i want to say that this view was also quite imperial, he depicted ukrainian literature as something so mystical, like the early gogol something like that he argued that ukrainian literature is not prone to realistic description of events, except for andriy kurkova, but this is all because he was formed more in the european environment, and ukrainian writers, they can write about something mystical, so that advises and advises, continues to advise us what to do and therefore annoys a huge number of ukrainians, now

his fans have decreased significantly, although there were many of them. russians often do this, they lose, let's say, all the chances they have in their homeland, then they come to us, and then they start to put their finger on the side and advise us - they think that you ukrainians should do one way or another, very critical dmytro boyko , it is our nationalism and he says that they say i will not listen to any of your nationalists, who are not full of reason and still hope that ukraine will go on a different path, and this is such a mentor that we have , of course, they laugh at him a lot, let's go let's watch an excerpt from his next interview, but i want to note an important thing - this is an interview from the state tv channel freedom. and there, the host yeseken ai murzaev is also a russian journalist and, well, let's put

it this way, a person who is going to write a book about volodymyr zelenskyi comes to a state channel that does not criticize the authorities, well, there are probably a few suspicions, let's listen. it seems to me that here the outsider belongs to the world, well, ukraine wants to refuse the best that is russian culture, and this is, after all, his right. i naturally don’t say this in general. it seems to me that first it is necessary to win wars and then to rename the squares, that is, in today’s ukraine, there is a pressing task of renaming different tampons. well, now we will talk about this book in more detail and about the book law, of course, with the editor-in-chief of the stary publishing house lion with maryana savka ms. maryana i welcome you to your broadcast on our broadcast do you hear me well congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, please tell me first your opinion about these

rumors that have been circulating in ukrainian for two months the book environment that volodymyr zelenskyy does not sign the so-called legal book because he is somehow waiting for dmitry bykov to write a book about him and for it to be sold on the ukrainian market, unfortunately, this is not a rumor, this is our reality, really, the president does not sign this law and in fact it is very unfortunate because if this law is not signed, it will not be able to come into effect. and i believe that in the situation that has developed in the ukrainian environment in the state in the book world, this law is simply absolutely necessary it is a security e-er, it is a law that establishes limits for avoiding the territory of ukraine of actually russian book products and e-er and it is not just let’s say so e-e impossibility, it is the introduction of business from russia in the

book sense on this market, it is some kind of symbolic e -e and informa- in the informational sense of the sign, we have been under the influence of the urban information space for a very long time and under the influence of imperial russian authors and some of them are now trying to become good russians and write books about ukrainian president, but in my opinion, this is not the right time for such a place to do such things, can you imagine, can you describe how in general, if this book, for example , bukav will write it in such a way that he will be able to publish it here in ukraine, and the main thing is how it will be delivered to ukrainians, because the title well, it seems a little strange to me, to put it mildly, how it

should look, well, i wonder what the attitude of the president himself towards this book was, obviously he knows about it and not without his participation, this book is being written and who are the publishers? i don’t really know this, they can be assumptions, but i don’t know this information, i certainly wouldn’t publish this book, uh, and generally publish a book about the president during the war between russia and ukraine. i think that this is a bit of a moliton - despite the fact that i respect everything that volodymyr zelenskyy is doing for his country now during the war, it does not depend on any of my political preferences. and i understand that there are and were many mistakes, but i have many intentions to eh victories, well, i'll say it again. it's not the right time and the wrong ones

authors and in order to create such a-a because there must be some certain already um-um uh-uh distance in time we really we don’t know what uh-uh at what point of this war ukraine is located where we are now we are very we strive victory and i don't want any false stars in order to er let's say er to do something extra mrs. maryana i still want to i apologize unfortunately we have very little time and i would like to ask you because we are trying you can constantly emphasize the importance of book law literally in a minute formulate why it is needed and what will happen if i do not sign it. i think that, first of all, this law is needed in order for ukrainian bookstores to have ukrainian books, which

was not the case in general during all the years of ukrainian independence, even in the last period when books it became a lot. but anyway, russian products penetrated our market in various ways, and that was all. because there seems to be such a demand from society, that is, there are offers. country if ukrainian uh, nation, don't choose for yourself some cultural vector, this cultural vector must be ukrainian, and it is built on these linguistic values, because at least a person who reads ukrainian can call himself a ukrainian uh, let's say uh, we have a lot of readers who, by choice of language, communicate at home in russian but read in ukrainian. this is absolutely normal, just like the

english-language book market, or the german-language book market, or the russian-language book market in russia. imagine, let's say, in the territory of russia. -is the presence of ukrainian books on the shelves why do we have to make this mirror, this is actually such a non-mirror, in its essence, a step, why should russian books be in ukrainian bookstores, and then it is again, i apologize, it is still in progress thank you, our broadcast is already ending and we will to raise this topic mandatory. also because it is extremely important. maryana savka, the editor-in-chief of the stary lev publishing house, was in direct contact with us. continue for a few minutes, we still have uh importance in the ukrainian language uh in the ukrainian language in books in various fields, we can remember what nikita mikhalkov said the day before, simply lord of the

money, russian i don't know the artist or who he is the director, i didn't dare to call him not he when met with teachers in the moscow region , he began to talk about the fact that the ukrainian language is russophobic, and that it is necessary to prevent that in the occupied territories, or whatever they are called , they were liberated from teaching in the ukrainian language. we this is not the first time we have seen, friends, when russians worry so much about the fact that it was not important for us for so many years, these monuments immediately put up a speech, they are worried. we were often told that this is not the time, that we should do better with the economy, it is now being formed, what is it? this is true let's listen to mikhalkov, what he said, the ukrainian language has become an image

of russophobia, you know. ah, the formulation of hatred is beautiful , that’s why i would be very scared if the subjects were to be taught in ukrainian. this is a catastrophe , that’s it, and that’s what is absolutely, absolutely, about it. i’ll remind you of his time. mikhalkov stated there that bill gates and his vaccine ra - develops with chips, although we are all chipped, well, that is, he has such an eccentric enough image, but you see, the russian authorities use it, as well as many other eccentric russian artists. well , friends, that's it. i have everything, and we will follow for other cultural events, prepare

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