yes, life is, life is, and there will be no need to invent 28 panfilov citizens like in russia, damn it. in the central myths, there was nothing like that at all, uh, everything was here, there was heroism here, now it is, so let's talk a little about the economy. ilya is not the leader of shkadovsky of the analytical direction in the ants network to us, who is the economist mr. ilya, good day to you, good day to everyone, actually, denys myhal said that ukraine will receive a customs visa waiver already this year, the joint committee of the convention on joint transit and simplification of formalities actually adopted it in the official the decision to invite ukraine to join by october 1, from october 1, in fact, and ukraine will become the 36th state party to the convention, what does this visa-free customs mean? then customs in general and what will we gain from this? no

, of course we will gain about what to call it , we with a visa, and in the context of the fact that our goods will be opened directly to europe, european goods directly, as it is now between countries , it is still too early, this is essential bureaucratic simplification or regarding the registration of goods and security, about the introduction of information between customs , in particular, the polish, slovak, and other customs offices , whether the goods are placed by us. that is, we will transfer information. that is, this is a significant simplification . we will be when we join the european union and then we will accordingly have to make a decision on whether our goods will move freely to europe and, of course, vice versa directions, certain laws that we adopted for this purpose are now being implemented, and this is the issue of

joint transit. although it is now a little understood that our eastern front is now in fact, it can be said that goods are not going there, because in this way, joint transit is still accepted but there is, let's say, the impossibility of implementation, there is also a question about a-a authorized economic operator that allows you to issue goods instead of customs, i.e. without washing accordingly, companies that have proper preparation, proper assessment and proper compliance of the permit from the stage, which usually reduces corruption, that is, in general, we are going in the right direction, given that, taking into account what we have today and close the seaports of the east, respectively , that is, on today, the border with belarus is also closed. thus, we hope that we

will overcome the denominators, because according to our estimates, the corresponding losses at customs in previous years were estimated at 2-3 billion and dollars per year, by the way, about customs and corruption, i just conducted a small analysis of the pure, i would say pure philological analysis of the last three heads of the lviv customs , for example, we had such a person, ilya nizhnikov, a 39-year-old kyivan in his 21st year it is not known what exactly he was appointed for or whether he distinguished himself, but he arrived very, very shortly after that, they appointed another, who is also fantastically simple, daniil menshikov, i am not commenting on anything, i am just saying philology, danil melnychakov, who came to us from

kharkiv is also known for being an assistant to the adviser of the previous and current minister of internal affairs, the constant and everywhere that gerashchenko antona, he also visited something, visited a little something here, and this one declared half a million cryptocurrency and disappeared somewhere again, that is, less, too there was a year ago and now we already have a third literally in a year, the head of the lviv customs, whose name is oleg, a fraud, the leg says simply philology, all, all, all surnames are fictitious , coincidences with real characters are random who have been at the customs for 25 years. i was at the kyiv customs everywhere and so on. i also came from kyiv. now i will try to formulate a question. would it be possible to send such a customs officer to

be called honest? by chance what will i say to the second policy, what does this mean, the whole question is so much because he is appointed by such a surname, and the problem is that what is his declaration, a declaration that is very classic regarding the registration of property for his relatives, he has been at customs for 25 years, but at the same time owns houses and so on, that is, here it is better to look, of course, not at the last name, but directly at the type of declaration, but i think that there are certain, let's say, contradictions for today , the personnel policy at the customs for me is a serious challenge and not about issues the question is that he does not agree with the candidacy. well , according to the 19th year, as we remember the time when zelenskyi went directly as

a candidate to the presidents of his time, he raised the issue of corruption at customs we we remember these meetings of the customs officials, at which the president visited, but how did it end? we remember further, then there will be a variety of appointments . were involved in smuggling, but the problem is that, in fact, it was not resolved. i personally hope that these issues can be resolved due to these decisions to open borders from europe, that is, if our other borders are closed, and here we have reduced bureaucratic procedures and there is an exchange of information between our customs and european customs, so how can we hide the goods accordingly ? that is, you understand when we have a simply paradoxical situation at the beginning of the war when our

customs officials let a person through and then this person is in europe he already declares 17 million dollars to another customs office. you see how you could not notice such amounts, only this is not an isolated case, in such cases there are enough sanctions against those customs officers, well, sorry, it was suspended there for several days and everything, that is, they are absolutely ineffective, it can be said that state support for corruption at customs , emotions of the situation. i hope that the simplification of these procedures and the exchange formation will greatly affect its capabilities and the possibility of correspondingly controlling how the goods will move, the possibilities of which for which resignation and in what volumes as will clear customs that when we received it, if i just ask, maybe a naive question, but nevertheless , if a person is 25 years old in a senior position in customs, doesn't that mean that, most likely, they

she already has a certain corporate well, let's say a certain corporate ethics and that we must already have some, of course there is a presumption of innocence in the story, but we must have a presumption of suspicion let's say suspicious let's say that to such people, well, that's not enough would be , that is, what should this personnel policy really be, where does it say, how to get those honest customs officers, grow them in test tubes, buy them, i don’t know, at a wholesaler there in canada, where to get them, well, i have my own position, for example, how i submitted was to a large extent overcome corruption in the tax department, this is automation, the maximum automation of processes that is only possible, that is, when i conducted it, many entrepreneurs did not like it, but the introduction of the electronic vat administration system, when

the system, accordingly, actually carried out according to algorithms, significantly reduced corruption and the selective approach also applies here, it is necessary not so much in personnel policy personnel policy is already such a highlight, the end of the process that is taking place, we have created the conditions, and the person who is appointed there makes the blood and, accordingly, the question because it is necessary to carry out the reform in such a way as to ensure the automation of all processes in relation to a specific person , at one time, for example, the bureau of economic security, to date, this is a failed reform, i.e. , i lobbied for a long time, advocated for a long time, supported it, tried to change the estimated militia directly to a new body, but only one correction which provided that all former tax policemen have the opportunity to pass the new structure , respectively brought all their corporate structure and you look at how this body works, how does it work for me excuse the creation of some illusory

victories to attribute to yourself some, let's say, achievements but in fact, well, there is no way, it also applies to the customs ah, but still, the customs business is a very difficult business, it has to not only to study there for 5 years at the university, but you must have at least 5-10 years of experience in order for you to be aware of how it should work. well, there was a process at one customs office, well, it did not work. automation in order to break this entire system on the one hand the opening of the borders in fact, which will make it possible to trade properly without these corrupt moments and, accordingly, the maximum openness of the work of vinnytsia people already have a secondary, they spend sooner or later if they will work in such a system if the borders will be open, then the prospect is still far

ahead of us, i would still ask, if it is allowed , on august 30 there will be such an online discussion, uh, big, where interesting people will take participation, including the first vice prime minister of ukraine and the minister of economy, yuliya svirydenko, and anderson will be there, and i can see what will happen. leshik baltserovych will be there in 2018. well, in a word, there will be powerful great economists and practitioners and theorists. this is the name of this discussion, actually, the plan of post-war reforms.

should be in this plan so that it is possible in principle to make this civilizational leap that will turn ukraine into such a copy of the asian tiger, because there is an opinion that ukraine now has such a window of opportunity that reproduction in ukraine can turn it from a backward country to a catch-up country which will develop with double- digit growth of the economy that for this we need to believe this the first moment we will not be able to sing about the asian tigers so if we did not want that we did not create what conditions we did not create they grew with of certain historical prerequisites that existed at that time , it was possible to place production there for individual companies, there were correspondingly fewer legislatively regulated moments, they thus created the conditions for them to grow

rapidly . which were located precisely in that region, japan was developing rapidly and gave impetus to its neighbors who were nearby, so we cannot repeat this, or is it timely now is such a discussion, i still believe that the focus should be on the current moment, we have a serious problem with the final economy, because what kind of foundation are we, how can we discuss what we will build after our victory, if we have we do not know from which economy we will enter in this victory, when what will it be, how much will be destroyed, the infrastructure of the enterprise, the buildings, what goals we need to implement, that is, now we need to minimize these practices as much as possible. and here are these costs and these relevant decisions. should always be in the first place for a long time , we offer different marshall plans, we divide these funds, hundreds of 2,700 billion, only divide them among ourselves to determine where they will be

applied. i think it is absolutely wrong, we know now, at the moment, to work in order to minimize these losses and such discussion it should be because the government's policy today i believe it is imperfect , imperfect from the point of view of business support, there are many mistakes, very wrong decisions even here the fact is that the discussion of this proposal has now begun for 10-10. i mean the tax reform. i think it is impractical for today. we will significantly lose revenues in the state budget. this will not have an effect in our country from the point of view of economic growth, low taxes do not create prerequisites for this, low taxes are only an addition to the already created conditions for business development, what will be discussed there? and we met with niklash in 14-15 years, the

proposals they gave us were different from what they did in their countries, so in this context i have a little reservation because the countries that are our neighbors do not want us to have rapid growth, accordingly, they attracted investments that are now going to their countries , so they give some basic things, but what they did in their countries, what laws they made, what preferences they made in order for the same slovakia to place a significant automotive construction so it was poland, what were the preferences for placing the company, they do not give us such advice, so it is better to copy what they did in their time in order to raise their countries than to listen to them with a word, see what bulsyrovych himself did, for example, or ivan eh miklos eh 25-30 years ago and draw conclusions. thank you very much. ilya

ne shkadovsky was with us. thank you for this conversation . you know a little about complex things in simple language. then we move on to another topic, the topic of traitors, iryna fedoriv, ​​the editor-in-chief of the website of the movement, honestly , contact her, we will ask how many traitors have already gathered during the full-scale invasion. i congratulate you, ms. irina. i congratulate you. well, i can say that we are keeping a register right at the beginning of the full-scale invasion , we have more than uh, 700 people, and there are also those people who showed themselves in the 13th and 14th years and those who are now in fact, there are more of them

. to the point that they are the incriminator. who are these people, are there among them those whom we know very well, they are also media persons, well, look. of course, if you take the police there, then in principle, they are the category of police the second after the party of regions in traitors according to quantitative indicators, well, this is medvedchuk and he nods, well, these are the names that will not surprise anyone, there are other people's deputies, there are deputies of local self-government, a very vivid example was when the deputies of the local council from the national assembly were accused of

collaborationism and his trial let him go, and the community there showed very strong dissatisfaction. let's say that when he was released, we understood that if the correctional officers of the collaborators were to be released, it would simply be a lynching, and russia would use it as picture, there may still be problems with the supply of weapons, there may be problems with helping us, because we are a civilized country and we should thank the parliament, in particular the law enforcement committee, in principle, in a week we made an amendment to the law, the parliament supported that correctional officers will not be released on bail this is very important because, well, in reality, the consequences could be very deplorable, from the fact that they could further control the fire and the fact that people could organize a court itself, and we do not need either, well, regarding the lynching, all

we remember that everything should have been completely different in odesa in the 14th year. you can evaluate differently what happened at the end, when really people were unarmed and packed, for example, died during a fire. in fact, they even spoke out against the corrupt pro-russian militia and protected ukraine in odesa, they protected ukraine. but it shows that sometimes it can also be. it seems to me that it is an answer to some kind of indecision of the authorities. i am now observing, for example, many cases when, for example there, dobkin was sprinkled with flour, poured green tea when they threw packets of kefir on the shop window, and of course, when people behave like that, it’s not because they are ill-mannered, it’s just that when the judicial and law enforcement system doesn’t work, we saw that vitrenko, for example, was active in the crimea, giving out whatever she wanted leaflets about the fact that the nazis

will take over crimea from nato, she used the rhetoric that the fsb and russia are now essentially using and, in principle, the law enforcement system of the sbu did not really do anything to them at that time, and people opposed them as best they could, well, that's it speaks exclusively about the fact that when we do not work and did not work, you can say that the special services, the courts, the law enforcement system, therefore, one of the key tasks is to bring the judicial reform to the end , one of the key tasks is to reform the law enforcement agencies normally, so that you and i do not play robin hood in us there should be a very clear system, there are traitors, collaborators come, special services park , the court considers the submissions of law enforcement agencies and pronounces a sentence according to the article, this is how it should work, well , a normal system and it should act in advance but we saw that in the 14th year we had traitors in the government, the state was headed by a

traitor, that's why people really have to run the state by their own forces. by the way, you mentioned dobkin, he is also on this list, because the last time we saw him, he was terribly condemning the russians and what they are doing and he even wore a cap with a red and black flag, which is hard to imagine dobkin and this cap and this flag, but the photos show that well, we perfectly understand that there are a number of politicians and a number of media persons who have changed our rhetoric after february 24, but we very carefully investigate each statement and if, for example, there was a statement that there is, for example, crimea, it is doubtful whether it is ukrainian or russian, is there some kind of common territory there, or in some other way, a person

hinted that it is it could be on the territory of ukraine or, for example, a politician or some media person talked about what is going on in the east in the 14th year, how does he think that and russia is spreading a civil war? so here we have a clear methodology according to the points written after which statements and we bring in politicians and we don’t have any amnesty date when a person took and there put on a blue-yellow ribbon so that now on the territory of ukraine, on the territory controlled by ukraine, let’s say this, she could stay and move around in peace. well, if we find such politicians we don't accept such statements well, in general well, we can assume that the person has sincerely repented and changed, because, well, everyone changes, god, you can remember all the various obscene jokes of the president from the current president, and now you see

the commanders-in-chief all admire them a-a criminal code if a person a-a says that in her opinion, crimea is a false opinion, it is not the territory of ukraine, that it is the territory of russia, and this is not a joke, this is a question of territorial integrity, when the other day there was information about what if a person will say that crimea was not completely ukrainian all the time since 1991. well, it is a complex story, we have to look at who speaks, when and under what circumstances , as a rule, those politicians and media people who worked very systematically and for a long time with the fsb, well, with them , speak 100% there are more than one in two statements, we will see these manifestations , well, in very frequent implementations, when they spread this

whole thing, well, look, a man shot the flag of ukraine, and well, someone can also say that it is a piece of fabric. well, but he is serving 7 years for this and his act may not be as harmful as what, for example, nataliya vitrenko has been doing in the media for more than a decade. well, that is, he really took some actions in relation to the state symbol. and with her own words, she spread rhetoric about the fact that here nato is in charge here, america is here, and nazis are here, and so on. further well, that is, you must also answer for these words, here is a question, don't fry here a question about a specific article, you are violating the article well, kaysya don't kaysya, we don't have any note in the criminal code , suddenly you repented and you were relieved of responsibility, well, imagine that someone robbed a bank well, he was caught

, he comes to the court and he says, mr. judge, i sincerely repent on february 24, i just repent to you, it's bad that i robbed a bank, please let me go. well, we understand that it won't work, why should treason or collaborationism be well, forgiven after it seems to me that well, we don't have a retroactive law of some kind. well, there is another story, they say, or parents and children, you keep saying that about vitrenko, i keep thinking well, but vitrenko's son is now the head of the main enterprise in ukraine, the main state-owned enterprise they have access to state secrets, for example, we have a story, for example, a ermak, was my father an fsb officer, and today he is like a second person in the state , in fact, there is a catch phrase, the son was not responsible for the father, and we used it when we were considering the story and the trial on shukhevych

well, if, for example, my father or my mother made a mistake somewhere, well, no civilized society can accuse me of anything, because well, i am not the defendant, he is not far from here, the apple fell not far from the apple tree, then we must admit. that is, well, look, you cannot judge children by their parents there must be a violation by a specific person, er, well, there is no article of the criminal code in the criminal code, it is written that if your father or mother is a collaborator or a traitor, we will put you in jail. who there simply took children, er, about ukrainian politicians, about ukrainian figures and the buried, that is, well, first of all, he did it wrong when he packed them from the very beginning, but they cannot 100% spread this to children iryna and please tell me the last one is enough a loud story surrounding

evgenia bilchenko is a former university teacher drahomanova who spoke out against the ukrainian language, said that the law on the ukrainian language was fascist laws and there were many more, then there was a scandal as a result of this scandal, in the end, she was dismissed from the university, although there were a lot of people who came to her defense, now she is suspected of treason because she was allegedly looking for correctors and indicated where the positions of the armed forces of ukraine of territorial defense are a media person after the scandals happened, after she started saying some such scandalous things, but before that well, she was not a super-super media person. but nevertheless , we understand that such people who teach in universities and influence the minds of students of

people who are still looking for themselves in this world, there may be many of them, how can we calculate them or are they only such, but as a result of such scandals, we can find them , will it be possible to find out about them, or should there still be some another work has been done, well, look here, i think the story is a little easier because the teachers are, well, they are not public people for us, but on the flow of students, young people. they are quite iconic and well-known because, for example, the flow of students there can be 150-200 citizens and when they will see it will be 100% those who will inform the services here about those correctional officers, for example, those who hide and do not openly show themselves, but it is more difficult with them. i think that it will be much

easier for us to look for these ones among the educators who are in the territory under our control e pro-russian teachers because now society is very electrified and especially students, they are very conscious, young, active , energetic, those who stayed in ukraine, they perfectly understand how important it is for the country and they will simply communicate with by special services now in fact all journalists and public organizations communicate with special services because during the war it is extremely important and we have to use this chance of unity in order to properly feed the state institutions and interaction between these institutions such people will then also be on your list and it was very long discussion of who we will include in the register of statesmen, we clearly defined the categories of people, these are politicians, these are law enforcement officers - these are judges, and these are media persons. and we limited ourselves to these categories with a very for a simple reason, the chesno movement has always for more than 10

years been following those who are running for office or who are applying for some significant positions there and informed parties of citizens that unscrupulous candidates are running for positions or are running on the list and we understand very well that the judicial reform is not complete and may look at tsarev, for example , when he was in the 14th year of the cec documents and documents were accepted from him, and now in 2022 he was convicted as a state traitor, that is, it took us 8 years to bring a person to of responsibility, even in absentia, and we understand that the elections will come, they will run for office if there is no court decision, then we need to communicate to society what a candidate is, or they can create a new opzzh party, for example, and then prove who these people are