thank you, mykola davydiuk, a political scientist, was with us, we talked a little about international support or not from the side of some countries, then let's talk about today, august 27, uh, it's not every year. yes, august 27. but this year, it falls on the last saturday. e of the summer month of the last summer month in ukraine , aviation day is celebrated - it is a joint holiday of both military and civilian aviators and workers of the aviation industry and transport. the holiday was established on august 16, 1993, with which over military pilots now had to face difficult challenges. and see for yourself in the material ukraine is a state with a full aviation cycle , which has a system of state regulation of aviation, specialized education of an aircraft-building enterprise , a developed network of airports and a modern air navigation system due to russian aggression

. the aviation industry is in a frozen state, and civil flights are prohibited meanwhile, military pilots became real heroes, so in the first days the legend of the ghost of kyiv was born there were rumors that this pilot shot down 40 russian planes in the media, they even said that this pilot could be 29-year-old stepan tarabalka, who died in battle on march 13 and was posthumously awarded the hero of ukraine medal. brigades of tactical aviation that protect the sky above the capital and not as a combat record of an individual person. however, it is indisputable that horse pilots, fighters of which are much less than russian pilots of the same class, ukrainian pilots have also become legendary they conducted historic military missions, they carried out flights to deliver cargo and evacuate the

wounded behind the thickets in the blockaded mariupol, well , everyone understood what was happening there, that the people did not even have an elderly person there, that there was no cargo aid to provide , that there was no ammunition, and it was extremely necessary to do this precisely because they took this risk, understanding what and why they were doing it. the commissions for the delivery of goods and even soldiers to the blocked city and the evacuation of the wounded will go down in history. however, everyone understood that it was not easy an extremely difficult and practically impossible task, the pilots managed it, but some heroes gave their lives, unfortunately, it was not the end, because we were on the return route there, about 6 km 3 minutes after take-off. and in it, it leaves from the lutsk parquet. the predator wants the russians and spread disinformation that they

destroyed the ukrainian aviation in the first hours of their offensive, the defenders continue to defend the sky and repulse the enemy, in the first five months of the full-scale invasion, the armed forces of ukraine carried out 1,700 group airstrikes on positions of the occupiers, which demonstrates how effectively our pilots fly into the combat zone, overcoming the powdery air defense system, according to the general staff, as of august 25, russia lost 234 planes and 202 helicopters , and we have bohdan dolinsky, an aviation expert, in contact with us, we will now talk about our ukrainian aviation we congratulate you, mr. bohdan . good day, let's go straight to the news. well, there is no.

let's just say that aviation is just in this package. the last we heard from the united states. did this disappoint you, or does it mean that we still don't have will there be help planes for us in the near future, the release of states or other partners, yes, it is necessary in general. if we talk about the possibility of obtaining planes, it should be understood that a new type of plane always has certain requirements, first of all, it is the training of personnel, flight training of ground personnel, capable of serving such a purpose, and also, er, supporting their e-e combat suitability and of course the third component will be glass, it's not eggs, the infrastructure so that such aircraft can perform e-e take off landings and e-e, accordingly, equipment for that so that these planes can be serviced at the appropriate bases. if we talk about the training period, then of course it can be from six

months to more depending on whether this pilot already has experience, or whether he is a new pilot, because if he is a completely new pilot, then we are talking about several years of training and, of course, if we want to get these types of aircraft, at least in the perspective of 1.5-2 years, then it is absolutely logical . it was in the end to calculate and in parallel, of course, to prepare the airfield infrastructure. well, uh, richard hooker, a senior yanukovych employee of the atlanticale itself and former dean of the nato armored college, wrote about the fact that russia still has an advantage, the usual advantage in the air, and the huge advantage is in the number of planes, in particular, and although ukraine is quite successful in how it uses its anti-aircraft capabilities, that is, it does not allow enemy aircraft to freely fly into our territories, etc.

but nevertheless, this question remains. well, no unsolved and it restrains, in particular, the capabilities of the ukrainian army of the armed forces of ukraine, for example, to counterattack without this support from the air, or will this question remain unresolved until the end of the war. do you think there are any chances to change something here? since we understand that well further , somewhere else. what well, at least at times russia prevails in quantity and even in quality. well, of course, we have to understand that the so-called air defense system, in principle, it is generally possible to introduce any combat actions into the enemy on the territory of ukraine and if we are talking about the means of anti-aircraft combat there. and this is the so-called ground segment, that is, the presence of ground

-based systems that allow the detection of enemy targets that allow the use of special means in order to destroy these enemy targets, this is about different types of missiles land, air. here is the second component, of course. so-called fighter-interceptor aviation. that is, the presence of planes that are physically able to find enemy planes or by signals already from ground ones services and air defense systems and directly intercept such aircraft or destroy them or similarly destroy the missiles launched from these aircraft or if we are talking about cruise missiles that are in the airspace of ukraine and only together this ground and air segment actually allow us to provide one or another mode of the so-called closed sky well, but we have to understand that any air defense system actually has some uh-uh now uh-huh probability of closing that is, well, there is no more system that is 100% of everything that is

in the air can neutralize, of course, in the end the number of e-e targets and their massiveness of application e of course there may be a percentage of targets that can actually break through the so-called air defense system and of course achieve their goals well, in your opinion. for example, we saw about how these uh, anti-radar missiles were successfully adapted, at least there is a statement that the pentagon will adapt to the soviet mig-29 aircraft, and ukraine is armed with uh, can they, or does this mean that it is possible to modernize the fleet that is well, let me remind you that we still have, for example, many countries that were ready to hand over their migeri dryers, still do not hand them over. because, again, the united states did not promise them some kind of adequate replacement for their combat aircraft, or would it be possible to get them and hope that they would be adapted to more modern ones, for example, is it possible for them to be

modernized with the fact that they still became er. well, at least some parity could be achieved in the air, and if we talk about the possibility of transferring soviet-made air vessels in general, then in in principle, we see that there are actually several different processes, the first process is most likely the pressure of russian diplomacy on certain partners who have such equipment and find reasons why not to transfer it to us or why to delay this transfer. and of course, the second consists of many in order to sell or transfer it to us, they must have a certain alternative and the speed of delivery to the relevant partners of western weapons, in principle, it is also theirs there is a certain delay that we can see even poland handing over these or other tanks to us there, she uh, at least there was not all the information that she was able to get to replace uh, the equipment that i promised

to deliver to germany. that's all these processes. of course , they are quite long. they uh -e have a negative effect from the point of view of the speed and possibility of supplying ukraine with various armaments, including aviation equipment, here is the information that a certain amount of spare parts and components was managed to be obtained through various channels in order to maintain the equipment that was in the state before the beginning of the war actively so that it could continue to fly and, in addition, of course, part of the equipment that could not fly that it managed to raise it to the wing, but where is it not about and if it is strategically worth it, then this military aviation, which in ukraine is according to the plan of the ministry of defense regarding at the beginning of the war, it should be completely replaced by new modern aircraft by 30-35 years, because the term e-e the use of the so-called terms in general e-e operational efficiency of these aircraft it

e-e is exhausted by such after 5 years in some planes in 10 to 14 years, and strategically, of course, in ukraine we will have to look for a replacement for some new, modern fourth + fifth generation planes, this is a huge amount of money, it will be a long process of transition, but we will not get anywhere from it , because they are soviet planes sooner or later it will end, in addition, the terms of effective operation are also eh, there are the next five 10 years eh , they have reached their maximum possible. - and gripen eh swedish and f-16 american american f-15 igor and f18 hornet eh if and tornado even eh which seems to be already going

to be abandoned by eh parts of european countries eh nato members in your opinion among those counted uh, there are a lot of targeted planes, which ones look like the most optimal for the future of ukraine, what is possible now, we need to prepare for a little yes, taking into account the fact that we see that format, uh, the introduction of convection war, including uh, that distribution of input force combat operations, ukraine needs to have aircraft of at least no worse class than the existing ones. that is, there is an analogue a little or better than the dynamo mig-25, and here it could be transferred by the turkish train, here we are talking about their cost of maintenance, the cost of maintenance, the speed and the possibility of modernizing these aircraft er, and of course their operational characteristics in terms of the possibility of their operation in various conditions

. number of relevant airfields. here, in contrast to what. for example, this is my 29th, they can even perform take-offs and landings of specially prepared sections of highways . of course, we see that it is very effective, and in ukraine, of course, there was even a completely signal of the selected videos what is very interesting are precisely the planes that have similar capabilities, including the issue of landing from among prepared sections of highways, and in this plan, for those options, there is an aircraft of the griffin type, here, er, in principle, as i understand it, er, it can also be considered on a par with aircraft 15 in 16 but in an ideal checkmate, although several different types of aircraft, e-e, this is in order to have the so-called possibility of diversification , so that e-e, in different cases, have different types of

screening equipment that will cover all the necessary possibilities, of course it should be it's not about one or two planes, it's about uh, a few of the quadrilles. that is, uh, dozens of airplanes in general, so in order to effectively get ukraine 's air space, uh, it is necessary to have there in addition to these soviet planes, which will eventually be decommissioned in general, there are no less than 100-150 combat vehicles of various types with different parameters eh in order to effectively eh defend the air passports of the state well, what is here, for example, green eh, they also say that the swedes, well, direct, there is such a case that they transferred part of it production to the countries that purchased the aircraft, and actually remembering that ukraine is one of the few in the world, in fact, ukraine has its own powerful aircraft industry. its aviation and maintain the appropriate combat capability modernization yes, mr. god, there

are problems with communication with mr. bohdan, what about my own? but i wanted to talk about these two certain ones. well, we remind you that today is the day of aviation. those who protect our sky above us. it's really incredible people. every time i see a video or just some pictures of these ukrainian pilots who are there, somewhere there, smiling there, going to their planes there and so on, they talk to each other and so on you understand that well, it's real for the first time, the russians had days of war, well, everyone thought that there would be no ukrainian and ukrainian aviation. well , in a few hours, at most, it turned out to be not so much more, even in air battles, and they lost their planes, they lost a lot of their planes, as i

read there, too, which interview you must have with ukrainian military pilots who flew on ukrainian fighter jets about how those who were on parade went against them there in the first days of the war , outnumbering three planes to one, and then went down to overcome bohdan i wonder if the russians still have four thousand aircraft , do they have them in stock, what condition are they in, what kind of hospital equipment are they and how many of them will be enough, because so far more than 200 russian planes and more than 200 helicopters have been destroyed, but we can see that there is still good in russia she is rich, she pulls him out of her sleeve little by little, we have mr. bohdan, we have restored contact with him, neither stepan, bohdan, nor with us, valery ryabikh can talk with him a

little and we will continue this topic, and you can address this question calmly to mr. valeriya this is a military expert for our viewers, mr. valery , there are 4,000 aircraft in russia, in what condition are they still completely flyable and completely such that they will not give us life. and you mean er, four thousand aircraft of which i have heard something er- tell me, says the spokesman of the air force command of the armed forces of ukraine, yuriy ignat, that actually these are military aircraft . various kinds of e-e in russian the federation is very high and in different types, and well, you

can’t say that all these 4,000 aircraft are ready for the day, but the russian federation still has a large enough amount of aviation equipment to threaten ukraine and this equipment aviation that can be used directly on the battlefield to support the action of ground forces, and these are helicopters , this is assault aviation, and the enemy is trying to use the same in this area, and in principle , the armed forces of ukraine have already found a way to fight, including thanks to the supply to ukraine from partners of a sufficiently large number of short-range missile systems. well, as

for the rest of the types, of course, the russian federation has a large number and long-range bomber aircraft, which also threatens us, and this is exactly the type of aircraft that can be used by the enemy without the risk of being shot down, because it is used from long-range approaches. well, as for the enemy's aircraft there is enough for that to terrorize, but as we have seen that the aviation of ukraine, the military aviation of ukraine has shown itself to be very capable in order to counteract the enemy and to successfully oppose it, including in aerial combat, it must be said that for example , that the same su-27 in a duel with a modern

russian fighter, as they claim , four plus generations won confidently and defeated the mig-29 of ukrainian modernization , the same modern aircraft that they offered before are confidently there on the international market, however at the moment, it is the air force of ukraine that first and foremost broke this inflated myth about, let’s say, the high quality of the russian aviation of the last generations, in your opinion, that is, if i understand correctly, in general, in this war, ukraine is unlikely to achieve parity with russian aviation precisely in heaven and we need to bet on e-missile systems for and anti-aircraft systems in order to prevent e-e enemy aircraft from operating at the front of the front line or behind

it, but at the same time, in advance, move them further from the front line, not so cool, we hit lithuania yes, of course. we can't compete with this country in terms of economic emotions. we can't compete with this country in terms of capacity. it is possible to counteract with asymmetric methods using modern solutions, including those that have already been transferred to us by our partners and about which i currently hope that negotiations are ongoing and in the future. this is not related to aviation. well, hmm, we should close the topic of what we are doing at the moment specifically domestic ones proven systems, as well as systems that

were transferred to us by our partners, that is, post-soviet production, we are from the countries of eastern europe, for example, from the same united states of america. but in the future, the question will still arise about the rearmament of air forces of ukraine with western-style systems, and i hope that in the process of implementing the ln-lease, which will begin in october this year, one of the important issues will be the transfer of modern western aviation systems, which are extremely necessary for the achievement of the goals that are currently in the war with the russian federation, mr. valery, the main directorate of intelligence says that russia has more than 45% of the rockets that existed

before the war, what does this mean for us, that is, some missiles which were fired at a long distance, they no longer have or do not have any. well, look , the thing is that the enemy uses missiles of different types, these ballistic missiles are the same as modern chanters, and as practice has shown, the enemy is even using the main part of these -is fire extinguishers of modern rockets in the forest and got the same point in the e-e and also used in this confrontation also the enemy uses a large number of aviation missiles exactly e-e and as modern ones such as ha one or k505 and e-e enough old man like x22 well, he also

uses those ballistic missiles that are launched from black sea fleet ships. these are the main types of missiles. of course, the enemy had and continues to have a wide range of missiles. we are talking about... if you take them all, then tens of thousands of rockets and at least the figure that the ukrainian intelligence provided eh says that the enemy is still exhausted by missiles eh and, in principle, without achieving eh significant results eh which he counted on in the course of these massive missile strikes eh and eh it should be noted that all the missiles used by the enemy are also carriers of nuclear weapons

and eh the thing is that in this country the aggressor it is necessary to keep a sufficiently large reserve of missiles of this type in case of an aggravation of the situation growth there, or, let's say, the creation of a situation when it will be necessary to fight and in the conditions of the use of nuclear weapons. what about that doctrine does not exclude the aggressor countries, and therefore even a sufficiently large number of missiles that at the moment , it remains, however, not all of them can simply be used by the enemy against ukraine , because it is necessary to preserve this stock, and the fact that the enemy has started saving missiles can be noted from the statistics that we saw on independence day when we all expected massed

of missile strikes and the enemy, in principle, only eight e-e x22 e missiles broke through that day e-e everywhere against the air defense of ukraine, although the enemy e demonstrated very high activity and e-e more often imitated having conducted e-e more than 200 sorties e-e and in a larger part he simulated the required missile strikes than delivered i wonder if he will allow i will come back again today already mentioned eh richard hooker with the atlantic eh actually the former dean of the nato defense college wrote an article where he says that if we we want ukraine to win this year, win next year, win 100% won, just as it wants to win by throwing russia out of its territory, we need to finally

give them the weapons that are necessary for this, without it, it will be extremely difficult to do it, and he actually calls it what it is those weapons are atamax missiles and attacks actually already on the existing farmers, that is, he also says that their number should be increased, well, at least to five dozen, he also says about the self-propelled guns, the american paladin he says that they are in storage the united states now has hundreds of them in storage, hundreds of 155-millimeters, which would greatly add to the maneuverability of this war, openings for sharp duels, and they definitely outweigh what russia has, which is similar, and finally, he says about uh, avrams tanks. he says that it’s the same hundreds are now reserved by the united states, in fact they are not used by them, he says, even if the old first models are not modernized, they will still prevail over those systems that are

currently used by tanks in the russian federation. it has to happen or it will happen or it will actually be in this program in the league, will ukraine be able to achieve this and will we be able to win without this weaponry? well, look, this is a rather serious expert assessment, it also coincides with the evaluations of some of the ukrainian military that you said, uh, these are similar opinions, uh, and military experts, as well as from our country, because offensive weapons are really needed for an offensive. on defense, eh. well perhaps with the exception of the artillery systems supplied by our partners and,

first of all, the same heimers, which have a fairly large, large radius of action and allow them to significantly influence not only the tactical situation at the front, but on the operational situation er, disrupting the work of providing er advanced forces of the enemy er, well, the attack still requires the presence of offensive weapons, and er, just tanks, er, aviation, er, and artillery systems - this is exactly what is necessary in order to create an advantage, because according to all canons, both those that existed before and those that exist now , a successful offensive operation requires an advantage in forces and means, and this advantage should have been significant from three to

six times so, so, we will still expect that lend-lease will significantly revive the help that we will be able to receive from our partners in the future. thank you, mr. valery valery ryabikh, a military expert, defect express was with us . thank you for being with us under our time part of the marathon with andrii, then the espresso airwaves continue and just now it has a news release with iryna koval. thank you, colleagues. literally for a moment about the most important events at this time. most importantly - 11 more occupiers for half a day, as well as eliminated several units of armored vehicles and portable anti-aircraft guns