we learn quickly enough, the most important thing is that for us no one gets into the military leadership there to help, especially as far as we are concerned, we have a big problem that in many cases the guys from the president attack try to control personnel policy by being the commander-in-chief of the eu armed forces, certain lists that exist where uh people despite their professionalism and their excellent experience and even the fact that they had already proven themselves during the great russian-ukrainian war, they are either refused or taken into custody or are appointed to such positions where they could not show themselves highly enough because for some reason it is considered that they are representatives of the previous government. directly and definitively and leave only one party, the party of struggle against the russian federation

, that is the only political force that currently has the right to exist." good health. how much more do you think of this summit of the crimean platform? representative than the previous one. what do you think about these people who refused to come to speak last year? they feel a certain disappointment that their tactics turned out to be like that. i wouldn't say short-sighted

. crimean platform it really expanded yes because if last year at the inaugural summit eh there were more countries yes i.e. north america japan eh and the countries of western europe and eastern europe baltic countries are our standard stable partners, yes, this year, indeed, there are also countries from the african continent, and central and south america, and this is really very important. that is, we really reached a completely different level, and in addition, all delegations actually increased the level of representation. that is, where they were for example, before er ambassadors. they at least er this year delegated e ministers or heads of state. that is, it is really a very high

level and actually all the seven were represented almost at the level of heads of states. it seems to me to be such a breakthrough year for us in terms of representation on the crimean platforms. last year, this event was faster. well, in my opinion, it was at least as symbolic. they expressed concern and talked about the diplomatic liberation of crimea sometime in the future this year. this is the role of the crimean platform. has it changed ? the positions of the partner countries have become more radical. if so, which countries have distinguished themselves in this sense? i would only partially agree with you, because after all, last year it was very important that we the crimean platform was made. and even the number of participants and the 46 partner countries and organizations that were represented, you understand that we did not

raise the topic of crimea to a completely different level, and therefore the issue here was not only the support of ukraine in its aspirations for the deoccupation of the peninsula, but the crimea itself the platform is a specific mechanism and the fact that those partner states declare that they not only talk about the territorial integrity of our state, but also support specific projects that will be initiated by the state, therefore crimea itself the platform - it was us who differed as regards this year, a number of statements were indeed uh, there were more thorough and serious, but in any case of course we were not the issue of the great war of this war and uh, a large number of leaders and representatives of states talked in general about a full-scale the invasion and the role of crimea in this full-scale war yes and many people

said that without the return of ukraine's control over the territory of the crimean peninsula, the danger will remain constant yes and that is why the crimean platform and its continuation are very urgent to work in this format, i will not single out any individual countries of the state. but it seems to me to be at a very high level, and in terms of rhetoric . scholz and macron - it seems to me that these were very good speeches, which were in the context of crimea , also very important. well, do you remember

how it was last year? represented by one of the ministers of france were represented by one of the ministers , ms. mila, then they made a huge effort to increase the level of representation, well, everyone somehow thought that there was something to annoy putin, actually, you understand , everyone wanted to save all this time for 8 years of the partner countries and even now after the full-scale invasion. everyone understands that there is nothing to save, the first is the second, on the contrary, the tougher the rhetoric is in relation to crimea, the faster we can deal with the mess . russia just did it all over the world, we will be able to stop it, so we are definitely holding the crimean platform, but it is not just one oil seal . yes, we are planning to hold a

second summit in october, at the end of october, that is, this year, i mean, it will be a parliamentary summit of the crimean platform . that is, this is another dimension of the crimean platform. in addition, it seems to me that this was a very important speech of the president. it was also in the speech of the prime minister of ukraine that we presented the strategy for the economic recovery of crimea. yes, it seems to me. this is a powerful signal for our citizens, first of all, who live in the temporarily occupied territory, that ukraine shows what we should fight for, what we will do in crimea, and so that every citizen of ukraine in the territory of crimea understands that he should fight for this vision of crimea presented by the ukrainian state, and it is of course also important for international partners that we not only speak declaratively about the fact that we will return the territories, but are already taking concrete steps in terms of regulatory settlement. for example

we have already started working on issues of amnesty , illustration of issues of property rights, economic strategy. that is, we understand that we need not only to regain control over crimea, but also to understand what we will do in the days and when we enter the territory of crimea, are there any details or understanding what we will do in the first days, or is everything still only at the stage of preparations? of course, it is worth saying that we are preparing now, we have created a working group where we work on legislative changes, for example, issues related to citizenship. yes, i often they ask, are russian citizens leaving the territory of crimea now after all the cotton and so on that has been happening in recent years, or what are we going to do with all the

population brought to the territory of crimea? we are discussing with a circle of experts, e.e., representatives of state bodies, e.e., our parliamentarians, e.e. the key thing. of course, all those who illegally entered the territory of crimea must leave the territory of the peninsula. i will remind you that there are at least 500,000 people, that is, at least half a million russians of citizens who have entered the territory of crimea , if there are any extenuating circumstances, we may consider and give them the right to live in already unoccupied territories on the territory of a sovereign state, but we will look at each situation separately, there are questions about related to those who carried out the act of transition and actually took the side of the enemy, but for example we committed major violations of human rights, so what are we going to apply to them or criminal prosecution as for

collaborative activity or treason to the motherland? or what will we do with the people who worked at the grassroots level and actually ensured life in the occupied territory, that is, there are many questions to which we and the experts are now looking for the right answers so that they correlate with international humanitarian law of the ukrainian state itself with the moments that this situation will no longer exist will be repeated in the future, agree, the people who worked there work as if in the civil service, but in some communal bodies and are engaged in the economy or school teachers, well, what are the majority of state employees crimea, like any post-soviet territory, there are a huge number of people who are just budget workers, that they are all people, so thousands of people, it is absolutely true , who simply provided life, yes, on the territory of the

peninsula, according to logic. yes, we think that such people will most likely be applied responsibility but it will most likely relate to illustrative measures , that is, the impossibility of holding positions in power for some time, regardless of what level it will be, but in any case, we need in addition to moreover, we have already started working with expert circles, er, the issue of personnel potential and reserves, yes, what will we do after we enter the territory, there are thousands of people and thousands of places that we will need to replace, so er, i gave you a very specific answer to you recently now , yes, because these are still very difficult issues that should not cause great opposition, including in society. although it will still be, we understand that, people have lived for 8 years of occupation, we do not

know when it will happen in a year, in six months in 5 years, but in any case, these are the questions to which we definitely need to prepare an answer right now, and we are working on it. a whole generation has already had time to be born. grow up and go to school. this is us again now. this is also a question of the process. we are with you understand that and now we are talking about a process that from an optimistic point of view may take a year or two there if we are talking about a war because no one knows when it will end from a specometric point of view, well, the baltic countries have been waiting for 50 years, we do not know how many years in ukraine 15 will be needed for the restoration of territorial integrity and will these people who are watching us on tv today see this restoration because two generations or power has changed in latvia or in the history of lithuania? well, i think that nowadays, rather, all this is happening in modern history, the position of turkey now, for some reason, i don't understand why ms.

president erdoğan's speech in tamil is perceived as more sensation of the crimean platform but he always made such statements, this is not a change of position, eh, vitaliy, i absolutely agree with you, i will not say that it was some kind of sensational speech because the republic of turkey has always stood on the principles of territorial integrity, non- recognition of the attempted annexation of crimea, and actual support of the crimean tatars and against the persecution that is taking place on the territory of the peninsula, so i would not say that this is some kind of changed position of the republic of turkey, but it is very important that after all the president of the russian federation spoke on the crimean platform, and because clearly last year and this year the russian federation tried to bring down a large number of countries and even this year, i will not tell the details, but

in fact two countries, even after confirming their participation in the crimea platform from the african continent, immediately refused to participate. yes, only we know how we repelled cyber attacks carried out by the russian agents , all their it experts, hackers on broadcasts that took place which we did yes, and the whole world was watching, and therefore the opposition is very strong on the part of russia, they will definitely work and further on weakening the crimean platform because it understands that it is understood that it is a dangerous tool which ukraine is using it for de-occupation at the political and diplomatic level. i think that erdoğan's position and erdoğan's statements surprised everyone. although they were his positions, they were known before because he still embraces such

a-a more well, neutral position. i want to reconcile as soon as possible. so he is trying to look like a mediator, but i will shout. we talked about this and vitaly. do you think that erdoğan’s position and his statement on the crimean platform will become a reason for russia to cool down a little. relations with turkey. i think that russia needs erdogan and putin, and they understand very well that they can take quite tough positions on some fundamental political issues. this is a wing . this also applies to the syrians . it's about business, it's business, what's happening now, this, this, the transformation of turkey into a hub for russian oligarchs, real estate for alina

kabaeva, the ability to circumvent sanctions, this is much more important for russia than any declarations regarding the annexation of crimea well, putin has such a mentality. it seems to me that it has endured. do you agree that it is unlikely that they will open up and you just have to accept the turkish position as it is, but as far as possible, i want to raise such an important issue as much as possible within the framework of the crimean platform now for what is happening with the crimean tatar people and other indigenous peoples of crimea, because this is also a huge issue, i would say, and in a humanitarian and civilizational nature, for these eight years, people who live have returned to crimea to live on their they did not have parents yet, they turned out to be not in their homeland, but in such a reservation, in essence, one can only, i would say, pay tribute to those who want to be in crimea as the only place where the crimean tatar people, in principle, formed and created their civilization, and together on that who is under such pressure that the

russian federation is currently creating for the representatives of your people, eh, in fact, this is one of the tracks, yes, this is one of the issues that was stated in the crimean declaration, the founding document to which they actually join the issue of indigenous peoples is indicated, not only that, but last year, the president of ukraine submitted to the verkhovna rada the law on indigenous peoples, this year the acts of the executive power , that is, the government, which relate to issues of representative bodies of the crimean tatars - budgeting issues. that is, we have already moved to the e-e level of decision-making, and after the adopted law this year, we are working and hope to pass at least the first reading of the law on the status of the crimean tatars by the end of the year

of the people, this year we approved the strategy for the development of the kotar language for 10 years, that is, within the framework of the crimean platform and its internal track, for which my office and i are directly responsible, we are working on these issues, and therefore it seems to me that within the framework of the crimean platform, it is actually raised on at the summit, we raised it through the eyes of audiovisual products, that is, videos. on this day, the president spoke with his wife and conveyed words of support, so it seems to me that the leaders of the countries that joined this year's summit also spoke a lot about indigenous peoples and, in particular, the crimean tatars, and the speech of mustafa dzamiyev and the speech of

dudy, for example, who even spoke words of the crimean tatar language. this is all very important and contributes, but we must understand that we do not have access to the occupied territory. the russian federation does not listen to and does not comply with any decisions of any international courts yes, in particular, for example, the international court of the united nations is in the part of resuming the teaching of the crimean tatar language or the resumption of the activities of the mejilis there, the european court of human rights, and so on, that is, the russian federation does everything it wants on the territory of crimea, the only thing that helps me seems to be participation in the crimean platform and coverage there names of specific political prisoners that at least these people are not tortured in prison yes in prisons either on the territory of russia or on the territory of crimea i would like to mention the prisoners who are currently in hostages of the essence of putin's regime. also, let's talk about how to act in order to somehow

ease the situation so that these people are not forgotten in ukraine, because they are actually the same military prisoners of the desert . recently, only a new one was given to him , a prison sentence that was absolutely not motivated by a fabricated case, the circumstances of which no one could prove, and everyone perfectly understands that this is punishment for journalistic activity, and it is also very an important point, but there are a lot of such people there because of some political conviction for journalistic work. you talked about representatives of the crimean tatar national movement about normal healers, who are also. by the way, ulyany is our colleague, a public journalist, but there are many people of other origins, ukrainians, and russians . in fact, they have become political prisoners of the regime and putin is being held hostage, so what can be done to ease the fate of vladyslav and other other hostages of the regime in our country, as of now, 138 political

prisoners, 106 of them are crimean tatars, and i repeat that the only thing we can do is to e-e highlight in the mass media on international platforms the number of people there, e-e, the conditions of their detention in these places e-e on international documents, including the resolutions of the general assembly, it is very important for ukraine as a state to do something very important, to adopt a law on the status of such persons, in fact , we do not even provide status, but on the protection of mostly social legal protection of such persons the president submitted this law to the verkhovna rada last year, and this year it was finally adopted, signed and entered into force. we help her socially, we give such support to each family of a political prisoner, we allocate

uah 100,000 each year, this may seem like a small amount , but in the conditions of the war, i am still very important for such people. there, payment for the work of lawyers can also now be carried out in accordance with the ukrainian legislation and within the framework of the state budget of ukraine. of course, we insist on access to political prisoners of international observation missions, but the russian federation continues to block these decisions and we provide opportunities for access to monitor their condition, and that is why the coverage of these names is very important, so that they are not tortured in places of deprivation of liberty. - this is bohdan-ziza - this is a young guy who already after february 24 began to show social acts like this and very much about the ukrainian position,

because, for the most part, during 8 years, you know, they actually persecuted crimean tatars or ethnic ukrainians, and you can also call oleg pryhodko and volodya balukh by other names, who, thank god, is already free, but they were, you know, people who were around the human rights movement, yes, that is, people were detained, someone came out to support them, they were detained by public journalists or human rights defenders who covered something in the crimea they were detained and so on, and now in the crimea we see a completely different movement, it is very often called a partisan movement somewhere, but it was exactly pro-ukrainian, that is, people began to oppose the war of the great war, which was started by russia after 24 february and here is bohdan-ziza, he poured yellow and blue paint over the yevpatoria occupation labor, threw an incendiary mixture there, there are a number of other cases, he is now

facing up to 15 years of imprisonment, but there are other people who have administrative cases, huge fines there, administrative arrests there, and so on. and this people who are resisting now in crimea. and this is a completely unique situation. i myself, as a person who has been dealing with this topic for eight years, did not expect that in crimea there would be such protests, we are monitoring these occupation courts in crimea and these are very unique people who distribute leaflets and hit cars with a z or v with this symbol, they do not serve the occupying troops. that is, their cars are closed after that, but still people continue to resist, and this is unique now for crimea, which has been under occupation for eight years, has been living under conditions of total control from the side of the fsb. in principle

, during this time, you yourself felt that maybe some new countries appeared that were interested in promoting the crimean order. yes, there were a number of countries in central america, south america and several countries even who joined from the african continent, i won't say what it is, let's say it's super big interest, yes, but they stated this position. maybe they don't know much information about what's happening there, because during this eight years of occupation, they didn't follow very much, but that that they showed a position that the russian federation clearly does not like very much. this is very good . now i see great interests on the part of japan, and the prime minister of japan spoke on the crimean platform. this was very important, because last year he was

not such a level of representation. although they joined the crimean declaration, for the last 1.5-2 weeks, i've just had a few interviews with polish media that are very interested in the topic of crimea. and it seems to me that this year, the prime minister of japan is very clear expressed his position regarding the northern territories, yes, what was previously articulated so clearly regarding the return of these territories. i do n't think it happened before. to our broadcast, please agree further that this is a really interesting moment. last year, i would say that everyone prayed to a certain extent about whether, uh, how much it is possible to understand, uh, the logic of president vladimir putin to the ukrainian organizers, exactly

that . a riskier topic than donbass because donbass is a hotly protested line of contact president volodymyr zelenskyi remember i say that if i mention putin's name it can lead to the death of our military and about crimea it's like i just declared all the time that we want to return crimea, we want international support because in this regard, moscow may have new circumstances from this that led to the deterioration of our relations, and there you caused it to be a simply beastly annoyance. do you remember all these teams? commented that for them it was some kind of terror and they constantly even today, former president medvedev, the deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation, again said in an interview that, you see, there could be a nuclear war because on claimed crimea. and if she claimed crimea, that's why they started a war with her, which means that with all of nato, it means that ukraine could not be accepted into nato, and they started saying this exactly after

the crimean platform, while the west and politicians, on the contrary , believed that crimea - this is the main irritant because it is a part of russia. formally, they do not recognize this. if they come there, it means they question the territorial integrity of russia. keep why did they not have merkel there, she had nothing to lose, but she believed that she would lose the mediation commission and everyone, you can say , to a certain extent, screwed up, even because they are bad politicians, it is not because zelensky is a bad politician or dead or macron is a bad politician in relation to the crimean platform, and because putin perceives all this in a completely different way, erdogan did it differently this time. turkey should also express positions. well, she was just at the level of the minister of foreign affairs, they are interesting. well, what did tamila say about the fact that many

territorially located countries that are so far away from us are also now expressing interest in the topic of crimea. what does this mean? well, it is logical from for the simple reason that they understand that this is international law . well, when was the history of the annexation of east timor by indonesia? it is very far from europe, but there were also countries in europe that did not pay attention to it. countries that believed that this was a blow to international law, because the people followed it, declared independence, it was occupied by indonesia without any will, for the future . this independence years later precisely because there was a lot of international support, a small country on a peninsula somewhere very far away, but the west kept saying listen, you have to solve it honestly, you had no right to annex this territory

. it is not yours. if you want normal relations with the civilized world, you have to solve this problem. i donetsk i was forced by her to decide let's turn to economic to economic topics volodymyr dubrovskyi senior economist case ukraine expert economic expert platform we are in touch congratulations mr. volodymyr congratulations congratulations mr. volodymy glad to see you well let's try to understand that this is very bad or very, very bad with i mean with the ukrainian economy from a social point of view because we already understand what vladimir putin is betting on, he is not betting on the exhaustion of ukraine, and this is not military exhaustion, only that economic conclusion. so many people would be out of jobs. this is to increase prices. this is to increase inflation. this is to increase unemployment. this is so that people leave and do not return. is it now