yes, of course, and in fact, well, to a certain extent, it’s a pity, just like all the other occupied , captured, once, and in fact, non-nationalized, russified, er peoples who ended up under the power of moscow, i feel sorry for them and i really want them er, i think that there are many from buryan intelligentsia and i don't know any chukotka there , and kotka there and so on and so on and so on, khanty and mantsi and the same chechens 100%. these are my real citizens of dzhin with great hope at what is happening now in ukraine and belarusians well, we don’t know belarus for sure, because we constantly include it in the iter and they always say that there are great chances, the same battalion was casted in klenovskogo. maybe one day it will become the basis for the formation of their military elite , and god forbid. they understand that now we should

reflect here on our borders and there already think about our soft power what is the power of ukrainian culture of ukrainian information policy which can also help and our example as a democratic state is here thank you very much for the conversation pavlo lysyansky director of the institute of strategic security studies, a human rights defender told us about what is happening in energodar, in fact, there are those news that come from there that somehow break through the veil of secrecy arranged by the occupiers, terrible things are happening, people say that buses are driving them, and then in those black bags are unloaded on buses, obviously with the bodies of people who were tortured by the occupiers, they talk about raped women, uh, they talk about the fact that the

occupiers threaten people, uh, to make radioactive rain so that those people will become bald and without teeth, er, well, that is, they apply what they have been applying for centuries, only that not all ukrainians understood how russia and the residents of russia, citizens of russia, can be cruel in their actions olga kosharna with us we continue the topic of zaporizhia nuclear power plant of nuclear energy and nuclear safety and the former head of the state inspection of nuclear regulation, please contact us olga, we congratulate you, we understand that you are more of an expert on technical issues, but i don't even know what's scarier is this nuclear blackmail of the russians? is what they're doing in the basements of the nuclear

power plant really scary? that's all, i'd like to stay here. for almost a month, a conference was held in new york. non -proliferation of nuclear weapons poured in for 26 days , participated in 191 countries, as a result, according to the position of russia, such a document was not accepted on 36 pages, where the article discusses what kind of situation with implementation is not a treaty and in in particular, there is a very important fourth article on the peaceful use of nuclear energy, and in particular , in paragraph 100, it is written that the parties to this treaty, concerned about the safety of nuclear materials at the zaporozhye station, support

the efforts of the general director the money of the rich means the relativity of his russian representative spoke and as always there are countries that support the kiev regime well, in general, the rhetoric is understandable, that is, what this testimony is about the evidence is that russia has destroyed the entire global architecture of nuclear security , which has been built over decades, the international regime of nuclear reactionary security, which has been built over decades of the structure of bogatyr and therefore, after the victory of ukraine in this war, russia will have to restart everything, and ukraine must play a leading role in this movement, that is, it is necessary to revise the rule, for example, the restriction of russia's veto right in the security council,

he reconsiders the adoption of such documents and others because uh, this is a bad example in general, because many people will think strange uh, uh, because the international community can't find any law against an aggressor who seizes a peaceful nuclear installation, so it might be necessary, after all, to have a cocktail and think about how to make a nuclear bomb, you know pakistan, india, and israel did not join this treaty. but, for example, it is known that ultralight is an atomic bomb. it is clear that four republics are stealing from the people , and iran is also working in this direction. it will certainly move in this direction, and here are the sanctions that were global against the wound , they were so that he used the stolen technologies of isotope enrichment of uranium, he still

did not have time to create a nuclear bomb. these were long-term sanctions, isolation, then they still went there at the negotiations, the rank said that yes, we have enrichment facilities, but this is in order for us to produce nuclear fuel for the buffer odessa, so i will emphasize that uranium, that is, the rank and the korean people the democratic republic of syria and cuba are on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism. russia should also fill this list. a sponsor of nuclear terrorism well , by the way, i would like to ask you, ms. olga, your opinion as a specialist in nuclear energy,

respectively, whether we can say that the signing of the budapest memorandum was a mistake of the political leadership of ukraine at that time, it is easy to say this because i think that this was at the beginning of the acquisition of the independence of ukraine and there was no experience of introducing negotiations, and there was no understanding of the obligation of the documents of the radicalization of it in the parliaments of all the countries that signed it that's why it turned out to be just a memorandum eh ogne opytnosti i think it's not an evil intention, we would have a problem there, yes, but rather incompetence, what better thing is eh, there is eh , vladimir pavlovich gorbulin, who took part in all this, yes, and he wrote books er on this topic of preserving nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine, well, in other words, it’s a hoax, and i think

it’s worth adding to it, because it didn’t make sense because all the management came from moscow, that is, we have to keep the first and second. we also have an expiration date, and we need these nuclear warheads there they age, there are all kinds of processes. they need to be updated. but we don’t have such technology and we didn’t have it, that is, it cost money to maintain, and we still wouldn’t be able to use it . kharkov physics the famous physical and technical institute had 120 kg of highly enriched uranium, and as part of reducing the threat, as part of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, there was such a movement that this was all highly enriched uranium, which for scientific purposes was used for research reactors strange producers were returned, well, because

we got in our time from the russian federation even during the times of the soviet union under yushchenko , the american government in general, somehow pestered us to hand it over but no yushchenko refused to hand it over under the yanukovych in 2010 so that he uh it was a trade in order to meet with the president of the usa for five minutes he gave 120 kg of the enriched exhibition it is in principle well how do you tell? well, it would be possible to make a bomb out of him if he was lying there like that. well, let it be so. yushchenko. so that a ukrainian approached him, you know, and he withstood the american onslaught. well, of course, that's the order of the day. but not today er, the wife is american, but with ukrainian roots

, so you have to think about what she is and she just has an american passport. that's all. yesterday , er, ludvig lytvynskyi expressed extreme skepticism about er, the visit of the megate delegation, er, here madam, in your opinion, can there still be some benefit for ukraine from the fact that, in the end, the officials of other european countries take a little risk by going now, preparing for this trip, i know ludwig's position and he is generally skeptical of everything a separate opinion of relativity, this is what i think. i already said before your objections that extremely limited tools are available to the rich and will

affect the russian federation. er, er, the arrival of the messiah on a permanent basis, not for two or three days, you know, on a permanent basis, it makes sense, our permanent representative will represent the hands of ukraine, soured at the un meeting on august 24, devoted to ukraine said about because it doesn't make sense for one or two days, because russia can make a performance, withdraw military equipment from the territory of the ss, prepare some actors for the performance, that it's safe for us here, and russia is there. well done. and when you have it, you will leave, then, accordingly, everything will be returned again, so the arrival of the mission makes sense on a permanent basis. let them change the experts, but it seems to me that this stabilizes the situation, because i do not see a second way out, this is not an uninterrupted lie. - eh and that's it

by the way, the us department will not be in its fundamental article on the website dedicated to the independence of ukraine with historical excursions, and disinformation is written there, lies are written in direct words, you understand. that's why everyone supports this mission . there are no citizens of the russian federation, money by shuttle methods, he met with a hot head with dewy eyes, he went to macron , the president of france, who also turned out to be a guarantor the safety of the mission's arrival, ukraine and russia have also confirmed that they will do all this while

macron . plans for the construction of a new generation of medium and small modular reactors, they allocated a billion euros for these groundbreaking works and for handling spent fuel, too there was less waste during processing, shorter france is extremely interested because this case of relativity can undermine the development of nuclear energy for those countries that do not yet have peaceful nuclear energy because here is russia, which also wants to trade reactors yes and here was an update that on august 25, the hungarian national regulatory body for drinking water safety removed the license for pro-russian technologies with russian credit, and here it seems to me that there are diplomatic efforts and ukraine and the countries of the european union must be

directed to ensure that this project is not implemented. a nuclear terrorist has the right to build in a european country using his own technologies, that is , nuclear blackmail against us. -e impose sanctions dynamic on everything sofas on everything projects abroad naka countries where can they be changed for example to china it is unlikely that china will be influenced and here to stand on its own the speech on august 24 and 23 regarding now he, uh, if all the countries supported it, they talked about where the occupation of the entire territory of ukraine was, the withdrawal of troops , then china called everyone to the negotiating table. let 's say he wants to have er, let's say, profit from everything, er, from

his position. that's what he wants, er, to extract the maximum benefit from this situation from the war with ukraine, so the russians are working a lot ahead of time, and most importantly , then the rules of existence are being rewritten. of these international structures, he and others , when in order for them to be effective and effective, they express our deep concern. the head of the state inspection of nuclear regulation was with us, she told us what she actually expects from the arrival of the magadate mission, that this is the only way out to somehow stabilize the situation at the gas station because of the fact that

sees ms. olya well, actually, there still remains some, well, conditionally speaking, at least an independent platform with a certain mandate from the whole world , in fact, as well as a lot of absolutely fair criticism of the united nations, but imagine that there was no united nations organization of the united nations, it would not simplify the situation, but everyone understands this in the end, but the question is to what extent it is possible to reform. excluded, but then germany itself had to be excluded with the help of tanks and shells. well, somehow, together with the fascist government. unfortunately, with stalin, that did not happen. well, today we have a continuation of this story, uh, already in the 21st century, on our scale, viktor yaguna, general- reserve major of the sbu, deputy head of the sbu in 2014-2015, in touch with us

good morning, mr. viktor, we already mentioned today and there even tried to convert into ukrainian hryvnias or dollars those salaries promised to the russians by their hidden mobilizations 240 000 rubles in order for them to come for from three to 12 months to go fight in ukraine, they will manage to collect those soldiers. look, you are talking about the military, and they also offer approximately 300 thousand for ecological, they do not collect them, this is a repetition of the list in history which was once in western ukraine, when teachers from

universities of education were taken north to siberia, and instead of them, they brought girls from some draft base there and tried to teach them how to love the distant region in western ukraine, it’s something like this the story itself is now taking place in the kherson, zaporizhzhia, donetsk, and luhansk regions, where they are bringing ideological fighters who will try to start schools from september 1, it is also very dangerous and they are offering just as much money, mr. viktor, this is the army corps, the third army corps, what is russia now well, there is a lot of evidence that military equipment is transferred from the crimea and from the crimea, so i understand that this is it. what is he, can he change his own situation now at the front? and in general, this army corps, what is it? he means eh, nothing significant there,

it is clear that the appearance of another unit is an attempt to close the divisions that we are now at the front , this is the second time, we all know that this army corps was formed under the number eh news under the number eh he is under the lower one, he was actually formed for 67 years, no more than the only problem well, not only a problem, but a nuance , because they really tried to arm him with modern weapons, but in the end they were not prepared for what they would have on him to fight and how it will all be look on the field influence well, let's see because uh, it's quite strange to give a modern technical school

. weapons well, i don’t know how michael mcfold, the former ambassador of the united states, wrote again. yesterday he was mentioned. he writes again the same thing as six months ago, give ukraine weapons. and this is repeated again, well, everyone from zelensky and so on, and will ukraine be able to carry out actually well can ukraine win without the american abrams without a sufficient number of the same ones , for example, the paladins of the american self-propelled guns, that is, we do not see it again in the list of the denominations of the aid that we have received so far. well, what is yours ? evaluation

unfortunately, we still do not see the modern types of weapons that you mentioned. this is an extremely huge problem and, well, unfortunately, we have the fact that we simply have no other way than to fight with what we have and what they give us, because even the same gapoms you understand, now it’s literally a couple of days. how did the information come that they launched an enterprise for the production of 250 tanks in modern, modern equipment for poland and it will last for more than one year. that is, they are not such, you know . unfortunately, it is necessary to open some the fruits are standing there under the tanks waiting for us, everything was calculated, everything was foreseen, yes, completely different goals and completely different wars, and now there are warehouses. well, i will not say

that they are empty, but they have significantly politicized and no, the students of the united states are coming even now, not even for a transfer what kind of weapons are we armed with? and directly from the direction of the conclusion of contracts with manufacturers in order to transfer to us new, modern, well, in their understanding, weapons that will go directly from the manufacturer there and the logistics are now changing, they stop using the vast majority the airplanes switch over to the sea connection on the bridge, uh, i think so. most likely, it will be greece or poland. that is, all this means that no one is going to stop supplying us with weapons, but how modern they will be. well, they give that that gives unfortunately, we can't uh, in this, it's in our interests, we, we already switched this situation, well , there are a lot of moments in us that no one expected

that such modern uh samples of weapons as uh, air defense systems will one day be transferred there but they pass on. that is to say, we are all slowly changing the situation, but not so quickly, and i would like it to be clear , because this is the pressure of waiting. by the way, is he not dangerous or can he not push us to take any unreasonable steps, we all understand that, for example, not to conduct counterattacks until the end of this window of opportunity until the end of autumn . this is probably what will cause disappointment in society and perhaps because of the distrust of certain western partners, but the worst that can happen is to conduct an unsuccessful counterattack, which will be accompanied by great losses, but wait even for marchenko, who has now returned to the front of these between kherson and

mykolaiv, he also emphasizes that you are an extremely difficult problem, the enemy is quite firmly entrenched in kherson and its surroundings, and it was very difficult to knock him out just like that, but nothing, i emphasize once again in a few days, we have to go forward, but we still have to prepare for that. if we talk about the stockpile of weapons of our enemies , they have already fired 45% of the missiles . yes, we see that there is less already done in ukraine. what a disaster, those remnants and the rest, how effective are they? is this some kind of junk, well, it was just formed, let's not talk, they still understand what they need in case of danger to the immediate like them

they are called decision-making centers, they also need something, and they have some reserves that should be used in the base of some kind of emergency security, but here the fact that they are quite limited in their capabilities is indicated by what happened on the 24th, you know 200,200 alarms with the significant helpers of the involved aviation and everything literally there are 8 or 9 cops that they launched into our world, this indicates that they can really scare, but with the possibility of such massive massed shelling that they demonstrated a few more months ago, they are already unable to fall, you say that well, we can't expect that they will give us something from the full squads but again, returning to the possibilities well, recently they quoted joseph borelli who called european

armies bonsai armies, that is, on the one hand, they seem to be beautiful and they are similar to the army, but on the other hand they are actually decorative and compact. well, we see that there, we thought that they would give us a lot of caesars, it turns out that there are those caesars, so they give there 30% of their denominations, 40 and so on, but this does not apply to the united states, they did not even give us, for example, 10% of the gymors, and that would have changed the situation on the battlefield, they did not give us 10 %, they did not give us 2%, 1% of their tanks. and these are better tanks than those used by russia, or are they saving it for the most likely war with china? i don’t know . why? biden's

politics in the states in general, they are very afraid of such a fast deprived the russian federation, they seek our victories, but victories with this method of life, that is, we have to squeeze them, they understand how to press , and you see squeezing without using a weapon that does not have the ability to beat on the which is located in the logistics centers located on the territory of russia, and by the way, it is only the states, it is emphasized that others are also trying to destroy the enemy for our help, so much for his to restrain, well, it is clear that this is their policy, they are afraid of what is significant in most of the world and

the main thing that they are afraid of is where nuclear weapons are distributed, who will own them, who will not, who will control them, they said this in 1991, on the eve of our restoration of our independence, they that's what they say. and now if they clearly understood that the weapons there would remain in er under the control of the central authorities in moscow, yes, they did. i think they acted more logically. to go forward, but they don't give us the opportunity to win, well, this is my subjective opinion, but it is preserved by very confused experts, and unfortunately , this is how it looks from the side. saint-petersburg, we are all waiting for the people

who, in principle, form the basis of russian russia, that when life becomes worse for them, they will finally see the light of day, wake up and start protesting against the war that they started the russian leadership against ukraine eh will this really push them to wake up and organize themselves to protest? will they still calmly give their sons to feed the ukrainian land with their bodies? unfortunately, we will not be completely different there will be no social protests, the only thing we can hope for is a social explosion, which is connected with a significant change in the economic state, and the economic state is not in the depressed regions of some, it was bad

nothing has always changed there, but the big cities will feel it very, very much, moscow, st. petersburg and there, but it will take, but it will take at least a year or two, what do we understand? they went there and interviewed the middle class of moscow , who say, well, flying to berlin didn’t work out, well , but in principle, everything is as usual, so far they have n’t felt the middle class that would be ready to explode to buy it, the major general of the sbu reserve and the deputy head of the sbu it was in 2014-2015 with us now we have a moment of silence to remember all those who lost their lives because of russia and the war it started