if you want, it does not yet look like a country prone to collapse, it looks like a country . you know who would have said that russia in the 16th year will collapse or germany in february 17 today , sleep well. the strategy of my advice is to bring russia to collapse, didn't russia or germany lose wars? when they were approaching collapse, what are you talking about in the 16-17 years of the 20th century? well , in fact, russia and germany were at various points on the way to losing the first world war i am talking about the russian wars, when i am all about the german collapse, i am talking about the collapse of the russian tsarism. the february revolution or the march revolution - this is one choice because it seemed that everyone knew the great empire, but the regime is very strong, but i am also talking about the collapse of the german empire in november in the 18th year, when it simply collapsed during nowhere, the empire that almost won the war,

but the hungry blounts plus the riots of the german sailors put the glue on the huge empire. turn to prove russia, not russia itself, putin's russia, putin's regime, where the maximum weakening and before its collapse, what could be the cause of this collapse , now opinions differ, it is obvious that we have not appreciated the power of the russian economy, as they say economically, that the russian economy and putin's economy are two various things, the sanctions will most likely hit not putin's economy, but the russian economy. this match is meant in all those private institutions. and what are all the others instead, putin's economy ? the industry will remain strong but that doesn't mean that you know what it is what it is if to say not that eternal and that it can finance well enough that is i can't say now go through the scenario in detail we can't you know we're not

prophets we didn't want in me lord god, to tell the scenario now. but i understand that the calculation is precisely such a calculation that the ukrainian troops will march victoriously in red square . this will not happen. and where is this about bringing putin to the point where he is not putin, putin’s regime is the state that he is it cannot continue to exist in russia, i don’t know what will happen next. this is a different question from mr.’s question, but this is how i imagine this peace. the peacemakers are coming because when putin’s russia, the putin regime either collapses or remains as weak as possible. it can wage wars. and how much it is interesting that it takes time for this, it may take several years, we do not know this, it is possible that we will do it with you, we will be happy with you , first of all, we will be happy, what are we going to do before this, or first of all, this is what i put behind the essence of this bloodletting russia's bloodletting putin in ukraine plus plus plus plus international sanctions isolation we don't know if it will work but i don't know another

strategy now i'm helping the west and in relation to russia well but this is a dangerous strategy for ukraine itself absolutely dangerous but war and dangerous we are becoming but you are very small. maybe you can have a better scenario for the end of the war. i can imagine a better scenario for the end of this war. when russia simply does not have military forces. for further actions and she will stop somewhere without negotiations without an agreement, she will simply stop, this is called the russian political language, good will is good . peace and a truce, of course, for a long time, she does not know

that long, but this is due to the nature of the war, it is a war of attrition, and war is not attrition, it is a long-term war, does ukrainian society understand that russia is not even putin's russia is waging a war so that ukraine as such does not exist at all. for the average russian, this geographical map is just a map of russia. it can even go as far as lviv from uzhgorod. i don't have sociology in front of me right now . i think that a large part, a very large part, understands it. i can't remember now, i have to refer to these maps one more thing, and the second is the big question, does putin really want western ukraine, well, for me personally, it was like western ukraine. i know that you are starting that year, he did not want this in he did not have western ukraine in his plans because it is already a toxic territory for nato, he believed that it was a mistake to annex this territory because if he had not accepted the baltic countries and western ukraine, it is not known how the soviet union would have existed without kosovo in 1991 it would be longer, but

now we don’t know this. although there are, again, various mysteries that it is possible, relatively speaking, putin’s plan was novorossia, what we call it , complete control over the black sea coast plus the industrial heart of ukraine, which dnipro and the transformation of the rest of ukraine into a small vassal state with a kind of puppet government in kyiv, which will be absolutely loyal to moscow, a small belarus, a name from our ukraine in relation to western ukraine, he had no plans to invade , he cannot go where he wants to even connect because it is the territory is biologically too dangerous to skip once again, sir, you should enter all of ukraine, because putin is talking about completely destroying the country from the world map, erasing it from there, but again , we cannot prove what is in putin's head it is hard to say now, it seems to me that the entire territory is dangerous, the entire territory is now dangerous for putin, lviv is different from

kyiv and even from kharkiv, when everyone resists annexation. that is, you can either occupy everything or leave these questions alone. vitaliy, what do you and i think? is putin pre-rational, to what extent does he receive information, you know, which does not reflect the real state of the situation ? reliable information or recently ignored him because he has in his head, they say on his back, certain delusions of a certain illusion regarding ukraine , that is, i cannot discuss it, do we think that when we talk about such a conversation, we miss the fact that putin thinks rationally, my thesis is that putin is rational, then we are with they are especially hard to fight i think he thinks both irrational and not irrational thinking as he likes to think because he thinks he can uh and i would say force reality to be what it is he likes irrationalities, they would be the

lack of an adequate assessment of the situation. exactly the same thing that he calculated a blitzkrieg, that's actually the fact that he made a very emotional decision rationally , a lot of soldiers always start with the decision, irrationality can talk about it, you know. it's already one and a half because then even certain comparative studies that are built on a database that gave them a scale of 100 years, believe me that most decisions about the start of the war were made irrational emotionally without reliable calculation and it is very important z z z no- not enough z nedo e evaluation of the force and tomorrow the assessment of the force is considered that we will be fast and victorious and before and before and before christmas we will all return home with victory then it happens, please, putin is not the first with with such an estimate, if you decided that logic shows that it is close to understand it very simply, i will say on here the estimates, i remember about 2-3 patients who had already after the last 200 years, they started exactly

like that from irrational emotional decisions and underestimation of the enemy. well, well, let's see, let's let's not look at putin at russia. in the west , they often talk about an existential conflict, but really , from the point of view of such an independent observer there, it is the same conflict. ukrainians believe that they live in their own country, on their own land, they have their own civilization, after all, we live and speak ukrainian language and we know about ukrainian history and it is not russian, but russians believe that it is just a few regions of russia, that stupid people live there, they just don't understand their happiness and they should be russians, by the way let's say the difference between reactionary-minded people in russia and conventional liberals is what liberals say. well, let's build together this democratic russia than a poorly democratic russia with its capital in kiev and with russian culture that would develop there and will develop, and the question arises if two nations

claim on one territory, 11 territories do not live but want to live, then the question arises how is this all historically resolved, for example, we have poland , ukraine, poland, ukraine is very similar to of the conflict on the territory that reaches almost to kyiv. why was it only volyn and galicia, the common territory is also over poland, and we have, you know, the same feeling of 12 in one territory - war is inevitable, after all, we saw what was done in the 20th century, but what happened in poland that did not happen in russia, the polish elite managed to overestimate the lack of courage to ask for these relations together, it was the people of gedul who made a statement about the good of poland, we must declare that we recognize that freedom is a lithuanian city and ukraine is, and lviv is a ukrainian city, everything and we are no longer fighting over this in ukraine , this did not happen in russia. and even the liberal elite , as you say, almost does not speak for such kamaz under which it is subject to exceptions

. the existence of ukraine as a separate state. oleksandr tsypko, in which do you remember the former morning, do you remember the former advisor of gorbachev, who himself is originally from ukraine, a woman from odesa, you know such a thing. he remembers that in our first year when the question of what to do with ukraine was being resolved, surrounded by eggs for victory, the opinion that the country should be allowed to leave but why because they believed this and this liberal position, they believed that ukraine is not an established sovereign nation, it will not stand for us as a collection for a long time and it will come back but then already on their knees and then russia can dictate better conditions simply from the point of view of the russian elite, what happened, time went by and ukraine did not turn around and did not turn back not even on their knees, they are standing, that is, russia, the russian letter is indicated by russian society still does not give permission for the existence of a separate ukrainian state, what is the way out other than the military one

? the victory in this war is no less than the way out wins, and it is very important. this is again, it is the same . i'm sorry. logical intervention is also soft and thyreopathic, but the main reason is to stop it all, it is called the russian pendulum in the russian language - it is the fact that each after each period before the reforms when they are long-lasting and it is necessary to smoke in russia in normal country, which would become part of the west, i have an even longer period of reactions of even longer repressions like this, all the others say that every gorbachev is not a question, laughs at every liberal of the russian cadet melyukov, there are no witnesses to this, and therefore it is not a fact that after the victory over russia in 20 years ago, a new incarnation of stalin or putin appeared, and that is why i think it was a big mistake, because it is in the first year that it is hoped that russia itself can cope with democracy, it will not cope the same way as germany, in fact, for the war, that is

if we are talking about the marshal's plan for ukraine, the same should be the plan for russia, the historic plan for the intervention of russia, and it should not be unconditional aid, because russia will influence aid, but only in exchange, even in exchange for russia to carry out certain radical structural reforms no matter what i say, there is full danger in sumy, but it is impossible in vinnytsia, but without a lower to the maximum level. thank you, mr. yaroslav, i believe that this will be a very good conclusion, because you know it's like at a doctor's appointment, here we are with you 40 there 35 37 yes tried to understand what kind of medicine can take these medicines can take these medicines can try these pills can these then they still do not need to be taken to the operating room absolutely russia in terminally ill it is necessary to understand she you are sick sick and summer and sick goes into society it poisoned by putin's toxic propaganda, everyone else is like that, but it is very important that you know, drug addicts want this, drugs, not only victims. thank you,

mr. yaroslav yaroslav hrytsak - historian, publicist, professor of the ukrainian catholic university in on the air, we talked about the situation, he told about such a general situation related to the public mood in our country in russia , we came to the exhibition to which we always come when we talk about this situation, and he is confident, it is obvious, although maybe for him it is sad, when not it is possible to achieve the situation and resolve the situation by political means, when only by military means can you achieve the right to life for the entire state and the entire nation . partner countries, not without the help of partner countries, ukraine will not be able to survive what is being done, the russian federation will do it, it will deal with the industrialization of the country, according to our officials, the ukrainian economy has already lost 50%

of its potential, this decline will continue and in the future, ukraine needs to - the first is aid that will enable ukrainian citizens to simply survive in the conditions while the military operations continue. ukraine needs help so that people living abroad ukrainians who left the war also had the opportunity there to work, live and settle down until the end of hostilities, and we must understand that a large number of people will not return in the first period after the end of hostilities in ukraine, especially since we do not know how they will end, whether it will be peace or it will be an armistice, we need military equipment western for the simple reason that our military industry is now elementary and cannot work to meet all the needs of the ukrainian armed forces russian one way or another, the military industry still has the ability to reproduce at least some non-modern weapons, so believe that ukraine can win this war and survive only in symbiosis with the

civilized world, and by the way, this is the answer to yaroslav ostrozky's question, why aren't we all transferred the country for the needs of the war has already understood that it will be a long one and for the time being we also need to rebuild our economy at the expense of the funds of western countries, it will not last long because they too have their own problems ukrainian economy p yaroslav is an economy on artificial respiration , forget about its existence as a real organism until the end of hostilities. when those hostilities did not end in a month, a year, 5-8 years, there are countries in the world that live in such a state for years. ukraine can join this rather difficult club. if the western world will not help us to the required extent, the ukrainian state will fall and the russian federation will be here, and everyone in the west understands this very well, their problems will not be there , they will have made their civilizational choice because if the ukrainian state falls , another state will continue to fall, there will be millions of refugees from other countries, blood, death, tears, destruction, it is better to help

ukraine now, so that, as we talked with mr. hrytsak , russia is destroyed than to live in this state all the time, to accept new refugees, to solve new problems, it is better terrible the end is not jacques, without an end, therefore, they will help. believe me, this is a long existential, civilizational conflict, for which you need to prepare psychologically to live in this war for years, it is possible that it may have different stages, if we are not accepted, donations will be made. second war, third war, fourth war, everything will be like this, but no one said that they will not help us. i hope that donations will be accepted. why is yaroslav's second question ? there would already be five nuclear states, and there would have been a nuclear war a long time ago. i am sure that if there had not been such an idea as the security council, it is wrong to do nuclear states, there would have been a nuclear war a long time ago and humanity would have already disappeared. i consider it the most effective organization in the history of mankind, just people who

talk like that about the un want bonn to solve all the conflicts that exist on the globe and this is impossible because the interests of nuclear states are different , it was not created for this, sometimes it happens that the interests of nuclear states coincide, it is possible to create certain peacekeeping missions when if a nuclear state is involved in the conflict, then of course its capabilities are limited, this is normal because it exists in order for humanity to exist in order to resolve conflicts of a local nature and even conflicts russia's war against ukraine is related to such wars. this is absolutely true. in the history of the un, there was only one situation when a nuclear power that was interested in the conflict allowed un peacekeepers to be dispatched. the south and

they occupied almost the entire south together with the korean capital, seoul, to establish a communist dictatorship there, and then for the sake of the security of the united nations organization, it allowed the peacekeeping contingent, which in general was essentially by the american contingent to enter the korean peninsula and begin the liberation of korean territory from the communists, and only the help of chinese volunteers led by marshal pendyhoai gave north korea the opportunity to stop where they have stopped now. here is on this demarcation line and leave their bandit state formation and capital in pyongyang, a real state but you ca n't ask why did the soviet union do that and he didn't agree to it just at that moment and joseph stalin gave an order to the permanent representative to boycott the meeting of the security council, and china was not represented in the un at that time, because at that time the seat of china was occupied by a government that everyone then called the legitimate

government of the republic of china, a government that was then and is now in taiwan, and of course this government actually supported the sending of peacekeepers to korea. why? stalin allowed his representatives to boycott the security council and not to veto the decision to send peacekeepers to this war before this war because stalin wanted the americans to be there. why stalin he wanted that the americans were there and because he wanted the americans to fall into a trap that would allow him stalin to start a nuclear war and the united states of moscow were already preparing for this war before the nuclear dining of the united states from airplanes then there were no rocket means of delivery because you could only use an airplane in order for a nuclear bomb to fall on american cities, stalin was preparing for this, but he died in march 1953, and then the

korean war was stopped, stalin's heirs did not want to risk a nuclear war and any more ani neither the soviet union nor the russian federation would ever in history buy a meeting of the security council if it were to happen for such basic, ordinary reasons, so we will assume that the world is again on the brink of nuclear war and the destruction of humanity has already started the clock that was just going to count down from the number of millions of people who will die during this war and the number of places that will not always remain destroyed as a result of this struggle with nuclear states, so i really agree with you yaroslav the organization of the united nations and first of all its security council is an effective body only because we are still breathing as when we will stop in italy. good evening regarding the suspension of issuing visas to russians to the

european union. the amount that will go to help ukraine and it must be in receipts for payment , then you, receiving a visa, automatically become sponsors of ukraine and they will have problems with the regime or the desire to travel around europe will disappear well, first of all, russians who want to travel in europe are not so much, this should be understood . - thirdly , the cost of import can really be increased , because if this agreement on the simplified procedure is canceled, the cost of visas can really increase in price, not much will change. that the decrease in the number of russians who will go to the european union will at least somehow affect the public mood of russia, there is no need for these fabrications

, russians stand in solidarity with vladimir putin regarding his war of aggression, because the vast majority of people in the russian federation who consider themselves otherwise , they or have already fled from russia, or they are sitting around and saying or protesting against the war, there are such people too, but there are very few of them and there have always been few if it were all such illusions i just always spoke from the point of view the cancellation of tourist cities exactly as they will be against any sanction of an economic nature and anything but humanitarian or will ukraine be accepted into nato and the eu without any deadlines as a matter of urgency when it defeats the second army in the world or will it be necessary to restore order in state institutions from the first without any deadlines and prerequisites, ukraine will not be accepted anywhere donato, this is a matter of political will, i will say right away if nato member countries have it, if they believe that the ukrainian armed forces have switched to nato standards, by the way, now

precisely this transition is taking place and if they believe that the transition that the acceptance of ukraine into nato does not threaten conflicts between nato and the russian federation with the use of nuclear weapons, which in principle will put an end to the existence of the european continent and turn it into atlantis, if there is no such fear when accepting donato it will be an absolutely logical step, i do not really hope for it, because i repeat once again without accepting a donation regarding the existence of ukraine as a state, there are huge questions in the near future, even if this war will end, the russians will definitely return, they consider this territory theirs, they will fight for it as long as the russian state exists and has some strength, if china and india dig for oil in it, russia will prepare for a new war and will prepare much more carefully so that destroy ukraine in a few days. believe me , it will not go anywhere, so nato is the only possibility, there is another possibility, it is some special

security guarantees from the united states of great britain, which provided for the possibility of using nuclear weapons as a result of an attack of ukraine to ukraine but i do not believe in such guarantees regarding the european union regarding the european union it will be like this first ukraine must fulfill all these conditions set by the european union either before the end of this year or maybe it will not continue in connection with military actions and if these conditions will not be fulfilled ukraine will in principle be deprived of the status of a candidate for membership, it will be received in the usual way, which may take three to five years there, i think that the conditions will be fulfilled if the conditions are fulfilled the european union will move, let's say it will be 2020, the third year, the european union will move to the analysis of the legislation of ukraine for compliance with the

legislation of the european union. this is an absolutely standard audit procedure . we will assume that it will take two years, that is, the audit will end in 2025, after that the negotiation process begins, when one by one the chapters in the legislation are closed for compliance with european standards if the negotiation process will take place immediately after the audit and if ukraine is a member of the european union, there will be no bilateral claims against ukraine. if you have historical or minority rights and these problems will have to be solved. up to 10 years

until any time north macedonia has been solving these problems for 15 years, we will tell you that we will not have this, let's reject this idea that it will be then in the process of closing these agreements in these of these sections in the negotiations will take from 10 to 15 years, we will assume that this is an optimistic ukrainian scenario, as if somewhere from 2035, or at least in the worst case, in 2040, ukraine will become a member of the european union, these are real numbers. what happened in nagorno-karabakh in recent days. does the capture of azerbaijan mean under the control of the lachin corridor, which was previously controlled by russian troops, that russia thus loses its position in the caucasus.

initialed by the president of russia, azerbaijan and the head of the government of armenia, after the end of the second karabakh war, it was meant that an alternative should be prepared on the roads from armenia to stepanaket, and russian peacekeepers should cross this road, they should control it, but the chinese corridor together with the settlements belonging to azerbaijan because it is the lachin district of azerbaijan that should be controlled by azerbaijani troops. by the way, this should have happened much earlier than it did now. with this dignity, with this agreement, the alternative road is already built in the russian peacekeeper, the connection between the republic of armenia and the mountainous karavahs, where the russian peacekeepers are located , secured positions in the caucasus, remain much stronger than they were, because russia now, after years when the azerbaijani- armenian conflict was exclusively a bilateral conflict, entered the territory nagorno-karabakh and creates from this territory and course a self-proclaimed republic under russian control, as it

created in transnistria or in abkhazia in essence alham aliyev, the president of azerbaijan, with the tacit consent of the president of turkey, radjet, who is known to play his games with putin, found himself in the trap of the russian president, and these traps will be there before the end of his reign. of russia's attack on ukraine was in the kremlin and signed an agreement with putin on special cooperation on a special partnership, so it can be said that russia's position is now strong after the second karabar war, because it holds in its fist and armenians in azerbaijan because it is clear that azerbaijan will not fight with russian peacekeepers.

declared their independence in 1991 to latvia, lithuania, estonia, this would apply only if they were not members of nato, the european union, the membership of the sodiums of estonia and lithuania in the dates and the only thing that creates an opportunity for them to survive in this war that putin is ready to introduce against the former soviet

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