and ukraine itself, ukrainians, by the way, in many directions, namely, overcoming the consequences of corrupt activities, restarting numerous government and law enforcement bodies, reforms in medicine, education , restarting courts, etc. well, the large-scale invasion of ukraine by the counties has accelerated practically all bureaucratic processes in brussels compared to the previous period before 2014 indeed, ukraine made a breakthrough in terms of reforms and adaptation to european standards, but this progress could have been much greater, of course, in such key issues like judicial reform or the fight against corruption , much more could have been done and these are things that are now annoying even some of ukraine's friends in the eu, there are still a lot of homework that ukraine has to do, but the ukrainians will cope with it, well, in the end, the result did not make us wait long for the council of ministers of the european union on may 11, 2017, it approved the final decision to grant ukraine

a visa-free regime, and the liberalization of the border was planned for june. it was then quite a push for our european integration. but was it really so or all in ukraine and there is shared then such unappealing optimism, even if in ukraine tomorrow they will grant the status of candidates to the ues, the very process of granting the opportunity to join will last several years, and maybe even several decades, the integration of ukraine into the european union is not currently on the agenda and how much it will take for ukrainians, no one cannot say, our goal of the association agreement is political association and economic integration. ukraine has a legal right to membership in the eu, but judging by the current state of the country according to the copenhagen criteria, the prospect of this membership is very, very distant. this is how european officials evaluated ukraine's euro course in recent years, but the turning point did not really come on the 22nd. when ukraine acquired

the status of a candidate for the eu, they say that ukraine is not ready for the eu and do not take this step, they manipulate public opinion we are not saying that we want to enter the eu tomorrow, by granting us the status of a candidate, you will help us overcome existing problems, including corruption, and develop our country in such a way that we all become stronger, volodymyr after the demonstration, ukraine is very eager and eager to be a member of the european union, you see, quite cautiously, with restrained optimism, officials at different times in different years have expressed in general that this means our confident move and type well, you are doing everything possible and we see it but you know, there is some kind of understatement, so to speak. well, in fact, several reasons worked for such and such thoughts, there was a certain disappointment, er,

and such. i would say the cooling of emotions regarding the general expansion of the european union after romania and bulgaria joined the eu. they also demonstrated a significant progress in the problem, and this caused politicians, especially in western europe , such quite tangible warnings, let's stop the further process of expansion, this did not only apply to ukraine. when the issue of providing ukraine with an action plan regarding the priesthood in nato was considered back in 2008, then because of the position of germany and france , in fact, georgia was denied this status and i think it was a huge mistake. but russia is also in the european union. well, i am not leading one example. well , after the signing of the association agreement

, i was provoked. and the russian lobby played there - they played a huge role, there is a study about how it happened, in the end it found the fear of some western european politicians that this will lead to a conflict with russia. let's not rush. ukraine is a large enough country and its entry into the european union is definitely not tomorrow , in the future it will change the balance of power in the eu and some western european politicians were afraid of this. so here several reasons worked at once . i will remind you of the comparison until february 24, uh, we were received by many

people in europe, especially the so-called skeptics of ukraine, as feldstein as a failed state, despite uh, the various reforms that took place in ukraine, there was such skepticism but then everyone saw that ukraine is capable of defending itself and that our supposedly weak institutions, but they turned out to be working, working, this country survived this influx and demonstrated the ability not only to survive and fight. - less critical, and you see, this is not a file, the state of ukraine, together with the young european states, can be a serious competition, so to speak, with the old europe. well, let's hope that they will compete, you know, on such positive and mutually beneficial principles, but ukraine will be a leader in these processes in the near future, thank you volodymyr fesenko, a political scientist,

was our guest in this part, watch the project to find your kateryna osadchoi from the search for the missing tomorrow at 21:30 and then we will talk about the realities of our movement to the european union new under the topic of candidacy as a new impetus and stimulus, ukraine quickly filled out a questionnaire that was supposed to help the eu decide whether , let's say, our country should become a candidate for the offensive, then the european commission provided its conclusions and submitted the questionnaire to the european council in the end. in june, the country became a candidate. so what ukraine has achieved on the way to the eu we can see now on the screen. to the european market without customs, or joining the european energy network. well

, just like that. we have a lot of other important movements ahead of us, now you can see them highlighted in yellow these positions myrnabardina, the people's deputy of ukraine joins our broadcast p. marino, i congratulate you good evening good evening we continue now, so we fondly remembered what preceded today's process of our movement to the european union, let's talk about the present, quoting your words from your interview in 21- of course, this all makes putin nervous, well, these achievements and the movement of ukraine to the european union and nato, this all makes putin nervous because he lost the country, that is, ukraine, which he was counting on, including us in imperial preferences, today we face huge challenges, the president also talks about huge challenges, but he says that we will cope with them. we have much more challenges today, as you think , than then, let's say in the 13th, 14th year, in the 21st, obviously. well, even if we take this quote from

an interview in the 21st year, today the challenges are stronger and they are primarily related to the state of war in our country and because today, above all, we think about defense, about protection, about how to save lives how to save our defenders the possibility of normal life for those who are losing their homes today, the infrastructure is being destroyed, and so on, that is why the most important thing for all of us today is victory. but at the same time, we understand that the process of european integration is parallel to the state, in addition to solving all the issues that today are related to the war, there are numerous issues problems, we have to continue our european integration path, because to some extent it is also the price of our participation in the european family, which the european union still needs to be noted, and i have repeatedly said that

show this red card to putin and solve the issue of ukraine once and for all, that ukraine is a part of the european family . therefore, today, the parliament and the government, we all continue, regardless of the conditions, to work to bring ukraine's accession to the european union closer. 70% was signed years ago - this agreement has already been fulfilled, of course we have certain obligations, the conditions, let's say, thanks to which we were granted candidacy, but we are also successfully moving towards the fulfillment of these

conditions. stefanchuk, the speakers, deputies and your faction and other opposition members say that it will be very fruitful, they hope for at least this autumn in terms of voting on important laws, well, look, in order for you to confirm the candidacy, and this is what we have to do by the end of the current year, the first thing is now seen on the screen. i hope the reform of the constitutional court is the first point, the continuation of the judicial reform in general, anti-corruption activities, including the appointment of the head of sap, and the fight against money laundering, the implementation of the anti-oligarchic law in reality, the harmonization of audio visual legislation with the european yes the so-called media law, the amendment of the legislation on national minorities, in this part, it will be necessary to work out that our coexistence with the hungarian hungarian side after all, they are the ones who slow down all of our integration processes. we will honor ms. marina, someone like you. let's talk about what we stopped at out of these seven points. what is the most difficult thing at the moment in your opinion? well, let

's put it this way, it will be more difficult to find unanimity among the same deputies, for example, will they vote because they understand you know the importance of today's issue. it is difficult to reach a consensus regarding the support of the european integration path of ukraine in the parliament. it seems to me that there is no. i remember how we voted on the same istanbul convention regarding which there were a lot of discussions and which ukraine could not ratify for 10 years, but we voted because it is today, it is our duty as parliamentarians to do everything possible so that ukraine moves towards the european union, so if we do not stand on the front line, then we vote in the parliament and we are developing the relevant legislation, this is our duty. today, we have to implement it without any discussion, so if we are talking, for example , about the constitutional reform, it will literally be in the fall that the authority of one judges will have the opportunity to choose such a new judge on a competitive basis. and in general, this is the

mechanism for the selection of judges of the constitutional court on a competitive basis. if we are talking about the pkks and the vrp, we can already see the first successful steps of the parliament in selecting members of the vrp literally. last week, the parliament voted a very strong group of lawyers roman maselka and mr. moroz into the composition of the supreme council of justice, these are very blue signals, you know, because maselka, there is a way out of this, i would say hmm with such a community of active citizens with an active position, and he defended the affairs of maidan citizens and moroz, and he is also recognized by the community of anti-corruption activists as a strong candidate. if we are talking about audiovisual services, which is also one of the requirements, then this draft law on media

has been developed. and the head of the parliament spoke about the fact that in the near future we will indeed already consider it in the parliament and spelled it out very clearly according to the directives of the european union. we were on the air once with nikita poturaev, who is the head of the specialized e-committee, and there was a meeting of this committee. we were talking about this very problem. initiatives that contribute to our integration today. i simply informed this issue based on the fact that this law on media and its regimental discussion are likely to be , let's say, inhibitions there on others stages of other bills, and this was a criticism of the law on media and so on. there are clear directives of the european union that determine how audiovisual history works in the countries of the

european union, that is, there is already clear legislation that has been adapted and that works. if our deputies really move the country to the european union absolutely concerns these factions, so they should come and vote without their various discussions and so on. if they have questions, then we have an ambassador of the european union who continues his work. in ukraine, we have representatives of other diplomatic places who also support the european aspirations of ukraine. i think that they will also help the deputies to work on their preferences and questions, if there are any, because i emphasize once again that if there is a draft law that meets the directives of the european union so what are the concerns of parla colleagues? there can be none. they must be voted on and supported. excuse me, come to an agreement, because again, these are the

specific public seven demands that i spoke about. the european commission is there recommending that ukraine be given the status of a candidate for the european court and we must fulfill it. i would simply add a quote from your colleague on the flight of force from the faction of mr. kochura, who noted that there is politics. there are always discussions . the verkhovna rada is no exception, but you know, something is surprising that even in in the conditions of the war during the time of such important let's say so, some of the processes are taking place in our country, but in some matters of politics, if you can hear the thesis from deputy kachuryn, what further our armed forces push back the enemy, then more there is a discussion within the walls of the parliament, i call it the syndrome of silk ties because i see that colleagues who were shocked by what is happening have already put on suits of silk cribs and start sucking something out of their fingers. therefore, there are

many legislative initiatives in the parliament today, we have already mentioned this, how fast pace, we are still getting closer to the eu, although not without discussions, we have also already talked about what is worth the law, for example, about the media , which you also mentioned, but there are other draft laws, mrs. mreo, do you think that well, for example, where oligarchization as such a process has already begun, but in the fall there and the further, as kachura says , our armed forces will push the enemy from the center to the borders, the more it will be. after all, the truth is born in a dispute, as they say. well, this is not a question of truth, not a question of disputes, there are specific requirements for membership in the european union, here is a question for a specific deputy, if you support it, you should vote for membership, and here and there, there are no your political interests should not influence anything if your political interests prevail over the country's aspirations to move towards the

european union. well, surely then you need to conduct some explanatory work with yourself or colleagues in the parliament or our diplomats or even our e-e representatives who today, the armed forces of ukraine defend our country, yes , because they also stand there for the future of an independent ukraine, and this future is definitely connected with european integration, so i think that politics in issues of eu membership and, accordingly, the voting of all those legislative norms, it has no right to exist, i.e. ugh, the anti-corruption block i am very important and you know, in some moments it is a kind of stumbling block to many processes in our country , by the way, you know, it talks a lot about the fight against corruption although in no country has it really been overcome, it is practically impossible, but it can be reduced, but even in these current difficult conditions, in our media there, well, in the news feed, it appears there in different regions at different levels

in various positions that somewhere there some corrupt official was caught, somewhere someone took a bribe, etc. well , and so on. what do you think we can do in a short period of time? yes, of course, ukraine has already taken a number of successful steps, we have really built this anti-corruption infrastructure , the winner of the competition for the head of sap has finally been appointed, this is actually a very important decision for our country, an important step is now the entire international community will monitor the competition for the head of the nabu, and here , too, it is important for us to show this transparency and independence of the process itself and, as a result, a strong new head of the anti-corruption bureau . i think that there will be successes in anti-corruption policy in ukraine, and as of today, they are demonstrating and saying yes and the same ambassador of the

european union in ukraine. it is true that ukraine is making progress both in anti-corruption and in judicial reform . this is not a quick process. these are difficult steps, but they are happening and the results are already felt. the importance of selections, contests, openness, democratic procedures, thank you for the opportunity at this late hour, so to speak, to join the broadcast . tomorrow at 9:30 p.m. we will continue this topic, but now we will talk about the economic component of the relationship under the topic called the accession to the european

union , the guarantee of security and economic growth. a society without corruption, freedom and security, all this is included in the status of a candidate for the eu, the country is actively involved and joins the list of programs and projects in the european union, there are many potential opportunities, and financial support for ukraine is really support for post-war reconstruction, in particular about roads, bridges and housing , infrastructure, we often say in our broadcasts that doors will open almost everywhere, and obviously we gravitate towards such patronage, the feeling of insecurity extends to all spheres, not only military, it is a humanitarian and social danger , including for refugees from crimea and donbas , there is also insecurity in the external sphere, at the same time in europe, the goals of the euro-atlantic aspirations of ukrainians are evaluated differently. but it is quite clear to everyone that ukraine

has fulfilled its requirements and recommendations for years and has full moral and legal right to apply for membership. so mykhailo kolisnyk, professor of the kyiv school of economics, president of the club ukraine we are joining our broadcast we welcome you good afternoon friends uh we are talking about economic benefits we have often heard there since the 13th year about various economic packages such others there first second third where we have already joined where should we join gas this liberalization there and such at this stage, what is the maximum we can expect from the european union in the context of the war unleashed by the russian federation? well, let's talk. arithmetic of my five best friends. i think that for countries. this is also true at the current moment in

time . which according to the data of e-e world bank it is true the 21st year gdp per capita is 4,835 dollars this is the annual amount of goods and services that were produced at the same time we are invited to join to the community in which this average indicator is 38.234, well, that is, we will almost say eight times, i think we should try a hundred merks arithmetically from such five of our best friends, for example, poland, lithuania, latvia, estonia, and the united states, great britain, so to speak, in addition to all that we should not become the arithmetic mean of

the carrot table there in the anti-mansia and kostroma languages, i will add, well, say yes, if to move here if you mentioned the gross domestic product, let's talk about the eu, i will mention it numbers mean gdp is more than 14 14 trillion euros gdp per capita more than 32,000 €, 32,000 €. so already 38 is good well accepted means 38 and the eu accounts for about 15% of world trade in goods and the main i would say so the main economic engine of the eu is the single market which ensures the free movement of goods, this is very important goods and services capital and people too by the way within the framework there is something very important for ukrainians and i have a very simple question whether we can quickly integrate into this economic processes and maximize profits for ourselves to choose because obviously even in the countries of the european union today, different countries have different standards of living, even though they are all members of the european union, it is absolutely true. well, here we

will force it, it is simply not here, the question is not whether we can do it, we need to do it. well, at least because look, we get access to the market, which includes 450 million inhabitants with us, with us, it will be a good 500 million, we will even calculate in fact and we will say yes , there are great opportunities, this big market, well, with bad news, except that by admitting to this market, no one promises us that they will weaken competition specifically for us or provide some, let's say, economic preferences, we will force everyone to act on general terms, to act in this community on the basis of the same laws and one of them - this is the law of economic competition . i think that this is a very good chance to strengthen those things

in which ukraine is already strong at the moment of time and to take its place in the world european system of division of labor, that is, i at present, you still think that if we follow the rules and truths that we are all members of the european union today, then we will move on parity terms with others and with all members, so it is absolutely a question how strong and powerful we are compared to them economically but this chance cannot be missed, and we must now do everything to implement it in a different way. otherwise, those guys who are at the front and those who are already looking at us indifferently, they will not understand us, well, after all, we often hear about the probable date of admission, but these dates are different, a more optimistic scenario is when he has

given his consent to the start of negotiations on admission. higher reforms well, the most important thing is the end of the active phase of the war, it should obviously be lifted, the state of war should be lifted, the country should return to its stable, normal life, and even for fulfilling, in your opinion, even for fulfilling all these conditions, a five-year term for now it seems real or unreal, some are. by the way, today only the 22nd gives forecasts for the year 2030 - macron generally talked about a decade, we quoted him on our broadcast as early as june of this year, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi set an internal deadline for joining the european union the essence and specifics were not revealed at the time or certainly not to be teased, however, no matter how hard we tried, unfortunately, not everything depends on us now , we will hear a quote later, we continue hundreds of negotiations , meetings and phone conversations, hundreds of rally actions concerts in support of ukraine and our application, hundreds of adopted decisions, hundreds of updated procedures, thousands of pages of a perfectly filled out questionnaire that we received from the

european commission, it was not easy, but we did it, mr. mykhailo, well, despite these hundreds, hundreds of everything we did and more let 's see what kind of forecasts you give. let's say, what potential does ukraine have today? and how quickly can we speed it up? processes, look, i give optimistic forecasts, but they will still be so cautiously optimistic, i must note that those countries that joined the european union earlier mostly had them. it took fewer years to implement all the rules of procedures and everything else. to receive the approval of other countries that are already members of the european union and which of the countries are quite stuck in this process, after all, the period

of ukraine's accession to the european union depends not only on approval, but also on how quickly the country is able to change its legislation, coordinate as far as we are able to make economic reforms, and i think that in this case, if we set our mind to it, we will get there, and no matter how many years it takes, whether it is a few years, five or maybe even more, our final and final the goal will definitely be achieved. thank you, mr. mykhailo, for participating in the broadcast. mykhailo kulisnyk, professor of the kyiv school of economics, the presidents of ukraine, was just with us. we hope that we will speed up all these processes as much as possible. and integrate, well, how fast or slow will be the accession of ukraine to the european union is a difficult question, of course. and i have absolutely no forecast for now. i will remind you that for integration into nato, 30 votes of eu member states are needed, 27 votes, respectively , there

can be no exclusion of differences in position, but after our victory, there will be an attack in the war against russia, after the demonstration of the unity of ukrainians as a nation, you know, no one will have any questions. watch the project to find your own kateryna osadchoi from the search for the missing tomorrow at 21:30 independence we remembered her with the legacy of our ancestors we read about her in history books and in the poems of franko from symonenko but today for all of us she acquired a new meaning ukrainians understood what really is its price incredibly painful and bloody ukraine army heart independence is beating we will

never give up our freedom because we are born free happy independence day nation of the unconquered we will overcome we will resettle we will win and shield news together we strong ternopil zhanna diark combat in a skirt first my education teacher of ukrainian language and literature teacher of ukrainian language went to the front lines to fight well, all people are afraid all men are afraid a-a dream she is not afraid she led the battalion carpathian sich in the most difficult times when er-e enemy comes to your land, it doesn't matter who you are by profession, how old are you, what is your gender, the only thing that matters is what else i can do to win