tv [untitled] August 29, 2022 12:30pm-1:01pm EEST
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to my president of belarus, oleksandr lukashenko of ukraine, happy independence day, and he so cynically wished us a peaceful sky, at that time we had a lot of soren because from the side of belarus, well , russians were flying over the territory of belarus. as far as i understand, they were russian a- and military planes with missiles were launched by mao, nevertheless, they launched a little. political and so on, let's say and that he so cynically allowed himself to express himself without understanding or maybe we all understand, but maybe i could somehow try to distance myself from what russia is doing from
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the territory of belarus against ukraine. i sent the standard one every year, i wish a peaceful sky, a clear sky to the ukrainians, now i sent it again and did not pay attention to what he was doing, let’s say with the other hand, he signed with the other hand, then you are there explaining what he gave, that is, what is not in ukraine all nazis that nazis are only the top leadership and these are normal people and that he has some roots there even in ukraine, that's what he said, he did not refute, he explained his position well, but i would not like to continue communicating in this conversation because well, there is no point in trusting lukashenka with him words. i very often appreciate it. i just put a minus on the contrary and understand that everything he said means completely the opposite. well, this is the situation with this question, the same today, by the way, it means we are looking for what
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happened there, because yesterday somewhere around 5 russian missiles planes were sent from the territory of belarus here, 22 flew in and sent five missiles to the territory of the rivne volhynia region there, the sky is so clear again, well, look at another statement, you say that you have no regard for these statements at all, but there was a statement in which he said it seems that he said on friday that there was a threat to europe. if you do something, we now have nuclear weapons, our planes have been converted, we know where the decision-making centers are. and come to your senses, that is, this statement should also be treated as you said, on the contrary, listen. he said that the su-24 planes are equipped, as it were, with the means of transporting stupid weapons, and there have
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been no such planes in service in belarus for a long time, 20 12 years ago. out of order out of order actually now there are su-25s, but these are also very outdated planes, it is unlikely that they can carry nuclear weapons and it is unlikely that russia needs it on belarusian planes if they arrive here 22 of them on the territory belarus is like a passable yard, that is , i also treat it like a directory, but to a territory that is so dangerous in general, to talk about the fact that belarus can transport nuclear weapons is to violate the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, in general, to violate the constitution of belarus and to further aggravate the dangerous situation is irresponsible - irresponsible statements of lukashenka and if we talk about it, we talked a lot because there were moments about it, there were many moments when well it really seemed that the threat of such an offensive from belarus was so serious now, well,
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there is no such threat, military exercises are taking place on the territory of belarus, but as far as i understand now , at least now, in the near future, belarusian troops there with the support of the russians or, on the contrary, russian troops with the support of the belarusians, are not going to attack ukraine from the side of the belarusian-ukrainian border, in your opinion, this issue can be closed because lukashenko somehow managed to get away with it and he does not listen putin, is this threat anyway? well, there may be a threat, it exists and will exist as long as lukashenko is in power and putin is in power, including this threat, which was talked about a lot in kyiv, which is possible in our country, as well as in belarusian soldiers on the ukrainian territory at the moment it is very if i think that it is not lukashenko and not the soldiers, they are belarusian generals, they would not want this, they would like this, as lukashenko declared, to defend russia on his territory, well, will russia agree to this, but why
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one remains relevant well, because putin further i would definitely like to achieve something somehow to put pressure on lukashenka. and this will continue, we do not know how the war will unfold, what will happen there, i think that in general it depends , of course, on how ukraine and the ukrainian troops will act in the south and in the east. will there be de-occupation or will putin look for opportunities to somehow escalate the situation in the north in order to draw back the ukrainian troops and so on, that is, this factor must be further taken into account. but at the moment it is not so dangerous. i mean the attack of the belarusian forces, well, you said that this threat will exist as long as lukashenko is in power. two years have passed since the illegal elections in which he declared himself the president of belarus, and two years later, at least from it seems to ukraine
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that well, he has been there for a long time, it seems that way. please tell me why he feels so confident about himself. you know, i wouldn't say that he feels confident. if he felt confident, then you wouldn't hold the horn. every day in belarus, those who came out to protest rallies in the 20th year against the falsification of elections and violence are tried every day, criminal cases are opened for people are being bullied, next week there will be new processes, for example, against uh, against uh, journalists of state television, who was protesting and tried to make some channel uh, alternative and state television, she has problems with with brain oncology, but she has been imprisoned since
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the 20th year and will continue to be tried. this is a person who, uh, keeps himself in power with confidence. is it possible to say that? no, he is very insecure. he takes revenge on everyone who came out. he takes revenge on everyone who is in the opposition. in addition to the fact that more than 1,300 only officially recognized political prisoners in belarus, tens of thousands were forced to flee the country, and hundreds of thousands no less went through these repressions, this is actually terror against the belarusian people, the belarusian people currently do not have such a force, let's say opportunities to somehow remove this new lukashenko from power, remove him from power well, but all this depends on the belarusian people, first of all, he has to find opportunities for himself, here before the previous protests were peaceful, we do not know what will happen next, but i would not give lukashenko any historical let's say the room for maneuver, he is actually not
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legitimately elected and he is supported by the belarusian people, the fact that he remains in power is only thanks to violence and the security guard, i wish you in this belarusian people it is faster to drop it, but look at the opposition, save two words. please tell me if this opposition in exile, which lukashenko expelled by force, some of them were imprisoned, some of them were expelled, is the opposition that is currently working from abroad, do you know whether it is effective now , unlike n- previous such public conflicts in belarus after those elections there in 2005 there in the 15th and so on years now a rather serious opposition center has been formed abroad , in particular in lithuania, in vilnius, in poland, in warsaw and in other places such serious organizations as bipol, the association of former security forces, and in
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various other sectors, let's say so, and the association of the opposition, and the leader who is actually considered to have won the falsified elections of the 20th year of svitlana tikhonovskaya and the office and managers, that is, i would say that this is a unique situation for belarus that has arisen. that's why i think that in the case of any really or internally belarusian such and such events or from such regional geopolitical changes, he will declare his claim to power in order to create a transitional government and return belarus for democratic development and where good neighbors for a peaceful life, well, of course i wish you this to happen as soon as possible, let's talk a little about lukashenka's entourage, the people who work for him now, do they work, do they make any profit or do they still work, because they are afraid if they will not work. they will be subject to some
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sanctions and therefore support lukashenka. i did not hear the question very well, but it is about the fact that those security forces working for lukashenka or any security forces in the government did not exist in the 20th year, let's say were actually developed in the government and the security forces, the heads of the security structures there, even in that lukashenko removed the head of the kdb and the minister of internal affairs and the investigative committee and removed everyone at once because they did not act, they understood how the situation would go and they were not ready for such an escalation the kind of violence that lukashenko went to. but now he picked up other people, he put them in front of, let's say, elections, they don't have an album. they serve or they will be. well , those people who are in the power structures are also punished for example, they went over to the side of the people, and then they got into prison, they were very cruelly
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punished there for up to 18 years. well, some kind of salary benefits and so on, but the main factor of lukashenka is the fear of the terrible well, this is the factor of any dictator a-a p valery please tell me last week in the program i spoke with the russian lawyer mykola polozov, i asked him this question a- and in relation to russians are now in relation to belarus, but what do ordinary belarusians think now, well, that is, for them, what is happening in ukraine - is it a russian special operation or is it a full-scale war, well , belarus is very seriously monitoring what is happening in ukraine, how belarus is where it provided opportunities for an attack for aggression against ukraine through our territory and in belarus
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there is no illusion about lukashenka and there are no illusions about putin, some people may be infected there with such russian propaganda because belarusian propaganda actually expresses the same thing. but since there is no, unlike russia, belarus does not have confidence in the highest leadership, so belarus does not have any territorial , ideological, or any other claim to ukraine, they no longer want to take a piece of land from ukraine, a piece of land so, is there something like that, but they understand, well , at least there is no pressure, i communicate with my closest relatives, my friends, they understand it , they are very supportive, and even these russians and my friends who live in belarus, they too they cheer for well and they understand the truth here, there is no way to hide it from people who want to know the truth, we are a modern world, that is, for the belarusians, this is not their war, they would like it to stop and for there to
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be no further threat from the territory of belarus to ukraine or to any other state you say, mr. valery, that now in the modern world it is impossible to hide information, then hides this information. well, i don’t know how many percent, but practically all russians, uh, they support putin very little . through vpn, they access pages on the internet with truthful information and get it from there, the rest everyone listens to state television. you don’t have such censorship in belarus. there is censorship in our country. independent media are actually suppressed or they are forced to leave abroad to write. we have hundreds of blocked websites and people. they use telegram channels and so on very, very actively in belarus since the 20th year, that is, belarusians know what censorship is and have learned to circumvent it
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. so they don’t believe it, let’s say in general when they talk, they don’t believe about slander the most important thing, perhaps, was to simply remember that over 90% of belarusians are against the participation of belarusian soldiers in this war, for example. yes, this very clearly shows the attitude towards this war and the attitude towards the propaganda of the russian and lukashenko propaganda, that's why if someone if he wants to find this information, he finds it, there is no problem with that. valery, my last question for you. in what case is such putin not lukashenka if he himself has to save lukashenka and yanukovych, whom he is hiding ? lukashenka now fulfills all putin's whims, you can say he stopped fulfilling putin will somehow convince him to continue or not will
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he say sasha it's time for you to go i think he is 20 how many five 20 years of this lukashenko supports and will continue to support if he has such an opportunity, if he himself will not reprint it in russia. thank you, mr. valery. thank you for taking part in my program. i wish the belarusians to overthrow lukashenka as soon as possible. well, get a democratic state. thank you once again. i wish you a peaceful sky from the bottom of my heart. thank you very much. thank you very much. about the west about how the west supports us and how the west helps us and will help me figure this out - volodymyr dubovyk, who has already joined me on skype, is the
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director of the center for international studies, associate professor department of international relations of the mechnikov odesa national university. congratulations, mr. volodymyr. congratulations. thank you for joining. thank you for answering the questions that i will ask you. well, and those that seem somewhat difficult to me, i hope that you will help my viewers to understand them, sir. volodymyr, please tell me whether the world is capable of babying russia now. well, i think that this is a general , broad question, so i think that for now the task is more pragmatic, narrow and specific, to help ukraine defend our sovereignty and territorial integrity and, well, help ukraine to defeat the russian troops in ukraine, and this is the main point, but in relation to
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that, what will be the future of russia, what will be the turn inside and in the political system, will putin remain in power or not, i think that this is already a question which our allies have so far not put on the agenda, we understand that our security in the future will depend on who will be in power, what policy they will pursue, in particular with regard to ukraine, but at the same time what is a more specific question is to help ukraine in the future, to give axes to russian aggression, and then look at some options, well , establishing a new regime of relations between the west and russia, or a ukrainian with russia, volodymyr . that's why i asked you this question, because look, there are the baltic countries, poland, slovakia the czech republic, which well, almost in unison, say that what putin is doing now is not done by the russian people who elected this putin. there are other countries a little
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further to the west. and in europe, who say that oh no, no, no. don't confuse all russians with putin, it was he who planned to attack ukraine and it's he who is doing all this, that's why i asked you this question, is he able to continue there after our victory, a collective event, hmm, are you a collective putin in russia? well, i i think that there will be a discussion here, i agree with you, uh, there is no consensus on this issue, either putin is individually to blame or it is really already the russian people who support him in a manly way, and another question is the situation in power after the end of the war or not. because there are many eh people say in the west that it is not necessary, even the german leaders and other leaders of the european union say that their relations with
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russia cannot be normal and productive until the time when putin leaves power. they have said all this repeatedly over the past six months, and this is an important moment, and therefore an important question arises if, after all, he remains in power, will they really continue to talk about the fact that russia is actually isolated and that russia is withdrawing from it, or will they still look for some options for co-operation possible cooperation, at least in the field of energy trade, let's see. i think that so far they are not looking that far, they want to start, after all, to help finish this in well, and then they will look at it for themselves, what their priorities and prospects of relations with russia is clear, volodymyr, the united states of america allocated
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2.9 billion dollars in military aid to ukraine this past week. before that, they allocated a lot. as far as i know, 40 billion in total. this is a military humanitarian e financial aid for ukraine at this time is not easy, i won’t even say difficult. and it’s a difficult time for us, which we are going through very well with the help of our allies , like 3 billion dollars of military aid. please tell me in your opinion whether there is a limit in the united states of america after which they will say ukraine, we just can't help you because, for example, the chancellor of germany, olaf schor, is also the minister of foreign affairs of germany. and lena berbuk said this week that well, we helped ukraine, but you must understand that in germany we do not bottomless warehouses we can't anymore, is there a limit in the united states of america, well, first of all, regarding the europeans, i will say that they really have restrictions on the ability to supply, because they did not prepare for
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such a big war, yes. so, now you can hear me very interrupted. continue badly. let me i will try to change the mode here, maybe yes yes yes we are waiting let's hope that mr. volodymyr is in control now the connection will be restored because you see it is very interesting to listen to him but when it is interrupted when you hear one word and think about what he will say rather, you listen to the third word and then you think about what he said between the first and the third word. i really hope that he will renew the connection after all, because it is very interesting to talk to him and
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listen to the answers to my questions. volodymyr said, will there be an event to putinize russia? well, it is possible and possible in some long-term perspective, because now the main issue on the agenda is to help us to defeat the aggressor, to win over him, to expel him from the territory of ukraine, to win back those the lands that he temporarily well, i wouldn't even say i control, but temporarily put my army on them, but according to the latest reports , the armed forces of ukraine are actively and successfully destroying with the help, again, of the weapons that the west gives us, and the question is how long this measure to give us weapons as i have already begun to answer to mr. volodymyr as you can see some european countries still have problems with their stockpiles or are these and i really hope that the united states of america does not have these problems because literally a few weeks that's why i read that they even
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mean that the official washington even deconserves some of its warehouses some of its weapons in order to repair them and send them to ukraine. it is obvious that these are not the latest models of american weapons, but not even the newest models, but simply american weapons which they have in warehouses that they can even use in case of need, they are god, if such a need arises for the united states of america, such a weapon, such a weapon will be very important for us and for everything we will thank you thank you thank you oh they tell me that there is already mr. volodymyr pavlenko volodymyr go on like this well, i think that really in relation to the europeans who have limited stockpiles of weapons and we must understand that their armed forces were not ready for such a big war there are other things about the
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americans, even they have certain difficulties , what we need now is not enough, because they have not been preparing for any big war for the last 30 years, after the end of the cold war, everyone hoped that a new big the war will not be possible, but it became possible thanks to the aggression of the aggression against ukraine in relation to the americans, so i think that for now we have the political will on the part of the american leadership to support ukraine in the future. another thing is that it relies on the consensus of the american political elite. so far, there are separate voices that say that it is possible and not necessary to support ukraine on such a large scale and for a long time and that we need to clearly understand when we should stop this assistance, but on the other hand, the vast majority of american political figures in various the branches of government say that we will support ukraine as long as it needs to survive the entire war, and there is a possibility of some changes. for now, the american public is also very pro-ukrainian
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, but over time, it is possible that those who say that this money should be better spent inside america are not giving ukraine all time there are billions of billions of dollars, they can gain points and some popularity within the american political environment, but for now i think that in the coming months and six months i think even more that the biden administration will support us and its opponents will not change stands even if the republicans come to power in both houses of the congress in the elections in early november. i think that this will not change uh, it will not qualitatively change their support for ukraine well, god forbid volodymyr last week about the crimean platform that was held, there were representatives from at least 60 countries of the world, please tell me what is the practical benefit of this platform for us, well, you know, everything here has changed over the last year
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because last year we said that thanks to volodymyr, there is something because we are limited by time, well, well, a year ago, we simply reminded the education about crimea that crimea is ukraine and that we do not forget about it, this year the situation is different or you see interesting events happening very much in crimea and where the occupation of crimea is, it is theoretically possible to put it, and therefore it is already a new format, and already countries and our allies are dedicated to how it is possible to help ukraine free crimea from the russian occupation. although they are very cautious about this understanding that russia here will fight to the end for that crimea, but ukraine is supported well, we will fight for that crimea to the end as well as for any part of the ukrainian territory. of international studies, associate professor of the department of international relations of the mechnikov odesa national university well, due to lack of time, i have to confirm this program, the world about ukraine, eh, we will meet with you
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next week, next monday at a-a approximately 12:13 well, i also have to say that those who have watched us or will watch us on youtube, please put your likes. if you liked it, didn't like it, put your dislikes and write something. it is important for us and for the promotion of our program on youtube as well it is important that more people watch it well, that's all i have to say goodbye to important information from witnesses, which i hope will speed up the search for the child. i will remind you that mykhailo timofeev lived in kharkiv with his mother on june 28.
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as always, he left home to do his usual business. he said that it was not long at all, but he still hasn't returned. i called all my friends, they all divorced hands, no one knows anything, he left at 11 o'clock in the evening yes, i will come now i didn't last long and disappeared, i don't go anywhere anymore i lay down in bed , mykhailo's mother, mrs. olga, i just don't know what to think because of the boy's disappearance, it made me very sick and to do where else to turn and how to find a missing child can't even imagine, that's why i asked everyone who sees me to look carefully at the photo of mykhailo timofeev, remember this face if anyone sees a similar guy call us at the child tracing service and here we received such a message at the bus stop in kyiv, where
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it is called, in my opinion, murami, i saw a boy who looked like mykhailo timofeev, but it may not be him, he was thin, but i was told that he had dark hair, and he asked for a few hryvnias and said that he wanted to drive to bila tserkva, mrs. lesya, who called us, told us that she saw a guy who looked like mykhailo. here at this stop near the northern bridge in kyiv, she says he was very polite and she remembered him well, and later she saw our program and immediately called the hotline 116 000 000 teenager, stupid, tall, taller than me, well, i am
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1.65 m, and the boy was taller and polite. i saw watching the news at night i watched i watched oh , this guy is very similar i think maybe this is him, of course i want him to be found so that it was him after this conversation i immediately called my mother mykhailo told all the details and you have no idea what hope i felt in mrs. olga's voice, she says that according to the description, the boy is very similar to her son. so, he was seen in the capital and he was apparently planning a trip to white tserkva, so i am asking especially the residents of kyiv region to take a closer look at mykhailo's photo, he looks maybe a little older than his 17 years thin, approximately 170-180 cm tall, hair brown eyes, gray-blue during the day of the disappearance, he was wearing a black t-shirt with bright tongues of flame, but not trousers and a black jacket with
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