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ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians, victories and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics , serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this, people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future are already the main and interesting thing in the program verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to thursday at 1:00 p.m. repeat at 9:30 p.m. glory to ukraine is program verdict my name is serhii rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 187th day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian army of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers,

the makhatey mission has gone to ukraine, this very mission should look at the conditions of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant and draw its conclusion in the meantime the enemy and in the future continues to shell energodar, the city where the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is located, in addition, the russians are massively shelling donetsk region, zaporizhia region and mykolaiv region, at the same time, the occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of august 29, russia has already lost 47,100 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine eliminated 350 occupiers with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 1,947 tanks, 4,269 armored combat vehicles, 1,060 artillery systems, 279 jet systems volley fire 149 air defense means 234 aircraft 203 helicopters 3160 units of

motor vehicles 15 boats boats 196 cruise missiles 844 drones and 101 units of special equipment the biggest losses against them suffered over donetsk direction lukashenko threatens the world with nuclear weapons medvedev settled in volodymyr zhirinovskyi putin will satiate the tribunal well, the magate mission to the zaporizhia npp we will talk about this in the next hour we will be in touch politician diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo mr. klimkin , good day. good health to you. thank you for participating in our program. congratulations, mr. serhiy. congratulations on the verdict. so, mr. pavlo, let's start our conversation with the situation around the zaporizhzhia npp. we know that during the last few weeks

, the un security council met twice at the request of the russians to discuss the situation, the russians accuse the ukrainian army of the fact that the armed forces of ukraine are shelling the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, at the same time, megate has been demanding for a very long time from the russians, who occupied energodar and control the situation around zaporizhzhia npp that the mission of the mother still got to this power plant, while the general director of the organization, rafael mariano grossi, announced on twitter that this day has come, the mission support and help from megate is now on the way, we must protect the safety of the most nuclear facility of ukraine and europe well, of course, a completely logical question arises, mr. pavel, why is the whole world calling on the parties to a dialogue, as they say , the parties to the military conflict, and not calling on

russia leave the territory of an independent state and in this way solve this simple problem in fact what is the difference to what they call for calls we have already heard a lot from the un also the very end of which he appeared here in us and in moscow in two months after the start of the war, does the un call for it, or does it not actually call for it, as in that bad joke, reality is not reflected by itself. the mahat mission is of course good, it is cool, but it is important that it become permanent. why does russia not launch the mahat mission, it is completely conscious wants to raise the stakes, she wants to either accuse us of some fatal provocations or arrange a

winter for us and the europeans so that there is no electricity, really disconnect the gas station with all scenarios . this is a source of pressure on us and pressure on the entire civilized world, so what we need now is a permanent mission of many, this is a un mission for them to clear the space around the station and create a security zone. russia is fighting back against the creation of a security zone, they understand very well that if the un is there manipulations and provocations are no longer possible there, i think they will now start waving and then twist them again from the station, so the tactics of the russian regime will be the same in the

near future, and we have already heard many calls appeals, we need international organizations to act so that they are physically present there so that they do not get out of there even when the russians start to exhibit them and with reference to international law and many other things. this is how international organizations should behave in this world and appeals eh the fact is that when we talk about the rich about what the consequences can be for eh russian nuclear power industry, it is obvious that i also have the tools thanks to which they can force the russian the federation should not act like a nuclear terrorist. and how should a country, well, at least that adheres to the general rules of nuclear safety, be a raz atom. and

just now a message appeared where zelensky comments and says that this situation is not normal. did not fall under the sanctions, can rosatom make it so that russia will simply be very hurt by what is happening at the zaporizhzhya npp, specifically in russian nuclear energy, first of all, there are no tools in the store , there are tools in the west, and it really lies in that including sanctions against the russian nuclear industry , we have already talked about this a lot, russia will not follow any rules, you saw what happened in the last few days and meetings and russia's reluctance to agree on any documents regarding nuclear policy and attempts to hide everything

what is possible is this desire to preserve what is called freedom of hands and this freedom will lead the russians to the point that others will begin to think, too. only in closed discussions and what the west was afraid of at first, then thought for a long time there, and now begins to think that russia's nuclear potential, together with russia's influence on the food and energy market, is a fundamental danger for the world, because they use their influence in order to make difficult but they don't want to lead to any towns, they want to blackmail with nuclear weapons with hunger and cold. well, there

are three three real things about which there is a russian installation today, unfortunately in the store there are no tools, uh, we have to say this, drink my text, uh, the west has such tools, uh, they are still afraid to put russia's nuclear industry under sanctions, because they fear that russia will make yet another provocation and blame the west because in this way, due to sanctions, they reduce the potential and reduce the level of nuclear safety, and if the measure does not work for this , they went to all energy carriers, well, look there, gazprom, the growth of oil, anything, they absolutely seriously take such into account option and i take absolutely seriously into account that

they can make a provocation, and they can make a provocation both on the atomic dew objects on their territory and on those objects that usatomu built, and these are objects, including on european territories and now hungary wants to continue to work on the construction of the pax nuclear power plant, the finns refused, er, gerdan, too, the project is still continuing, so the threat from this is potentially huge , and we understand that there are no red lines in the head there in moscow, let's hope that there are remnants of rationality there, and it is perfectly clear to everyone that provocation in the nuclear sphere will entail radical steps, both from the west and, i hope, from china. but nevertheless, we cannot

rule out the possibility of such provocations. no sanctions have been imposed on the russians yet, there was information that putin's press secretary dmitry pyskun stated that there is no talk of creating a demilitarized zone around the zaporizhzhia npp he also said that a delegation of megaten zaporizhia will visit from the territory controlled by the ukrainian troops, it is very strange that he is trying to divide it there in the u.s. because in any case ukraine is and was indivisible zaporizhzhia region, including the energodar territory of ukraine and does not remain well, in the meantime , another nuclear blackmailer appeared, oleksandr lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president of belarus, he said that belarusian planes have already been converted to

use nuclear weapons, let's hear lukashenko ona must understand that there are no helicopters and airplanes if they go to the aggravation and do not save, moreover, putin and peter once declared that we had also reequipped belarusian aircraft so that they could carry nuclear weapons. well, what more points does lukashenko have? well, i will simply ask, because we know that there is control over nuclear weapons, there is an agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, he is now simply blocking the truth . or as he said there, this is exactly what he does. and what do you think, putin will entrust him with some kind of nuclear weapon and

he is asleep. i set a standard for him, no one will trust him with anything, and if i heard lukashenko correctly, somewhere i either read or heard in the groin days he is confused about that, he does n't know his armed forces, he calls them something else. at first, in my opinion, he called attack aircraft some kind of nuclear weapon, attack aircraft, well, that's about it, and i'll show you, in general , all you need to know about lukashenka is that it fundamental violates the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons or the fact that lukashenko himself has read, well, he must have heard something. by the way, we remember all the guarantees, what the budapest memorandum is worth. but in that case, belarus also has something

like he spoke about the guarantees regarding belarus, not only morally, but this one is political. goodbye, so what? well, if you want, let him play with fire, and i think that in the end, putin will clean him up at some point. they will decide all the special services themselves but what lukashenka says looks like well, in fact, it's frankly bad, you know, i 've already asked you several times over the past six months about how we generally contact with belarus, how we should contact, whether we need diplomatic relations or not, or whether we need visas for belarusians , despite the fact that they do not come here now because of the closed border, are they not needed? do we need to conduct any economic activities with belarus or not?

on august 24, the self-proclaimed president of belarus announced that he welcomes ukrainians from on independence day, i think that all these relations that were and remain between belarusians will be strong, they will continue to develop, and then, in continuation, planes took off that entered the airspace of belarus, russian planes that caused 200 air alarms all over ukraine, what do you think, has the time come when the ukrainian leadership needs to put a stop to relations with belarusians? it is clear that lukashenko has not been recognized as the president of ukraine for two years, but that does not prevent us from buying bitumen there

oil or what, we still buy petroleum products there and clog up all these stores of dairy or non-dairy products from belarus, of course , the answer here is quite simple, but i also believe that now everything must be done for victory absolutely straight from cynical uh-uh and what uh- e lukashenko was finally ashamed as a politician as a person in relation to anything that he allowed aggression from his territory and directly participates in this aggression by allowing these strikes and the deployment of russian troops. well, he is the same as and putin, well, it’s just that his scale is different, it’s pathetic . and what else is there to talk about, so it has

to end somewhere, the loud ones know where it will be the hague or not the hague with him absolutely everything is clear diplomatic relations well, of course well, what kind of diplomatic relations are you talking about? it can happen now, besides, when the ambassador goes to such a country, he transfers from the head of state to the head of state, which head of state in today's belarus are we actually talking about, well , some kind of consular relations, well, we can talk about this, about no policy of diplomacy between our by countries, uh, i have no idea what about the belarusians, we know, although there are no official polls, that they do not like the russians support this war, uh, there are a lot of layers there who, after all, support it, but the majority of belarusians do not want to fight against those belarusians who feel e kinship

with us and for history, for many things we also wish for a future european future and wish to take the fate of belarusians in our own hands to accept this fate. parts of the future rebooted soviet er soviet union well, who doesn't say, do you remember a few days ago, chancellor of germany stolz, speaking at an open day of information there in an ideal vacancy, already repeated that putin does not consider ukraine, well, with ukraine, everything is clear let him consider everything that he wants to, but he does not consider belarus to be an independent state, and he also believes that the existence of belarus as an independent

state is impossible. lukashenko cannot help but understand this and perfectly understands that he first of all putin's accomplice in the aggression against us , and he is responsible for that, and the second thing is that he betrays belarus and the belarusians, actually, people, i don't want to say his people, because it's not his people , but 100%, and he betrays them in this will end badly for russia, and of course i am very sorry that the belarusians did not have the will, the so -called eggs, to bring the protest to the end and take belarus into their own hands, and how russia would behave there. we do not know if there would be an attempt occupation but hundreds of thousands of belarusians on the streets of belarus places is cool and i am sure that these hundreds of thousands of people deserve the best fate than to be

pitied by lukashenka's leadership as such and that's all. and in diplomatic relations, which diplomatic relations, everything is so clear. well, let's hope that these hundreds of thousands of people who came out on the streets and minsk and other cities of belarus in 2020 , starting from august 7 or 9 there and ending in november, that they have not gone anywhere and that when the time comes they will also go to the protests against e. lukashenka and change the situation in to his country well, in the meantime, the situation in russia is not changing, because at one time there was volodymyr zhirinovsky, the leader of the ldpr, who voiced various ideas, plans, or some other projects of the kremlin, and then the kremlin tightened up, well, he had such a role, now he has taken over this role on himself dmitry medvedev

, former president of the russian federation by the way, and now the deputy head of the security council of the russian federation, who has announced that in the event of a conflict with ukraine, russia will demand a security guarantee, the condition that ukraine does not join nato will not be enough about this he said in an interview with journalists from france, let's listen to medvedev's participation in the north atlantic alliance - this is now necessary, but it is not enough. in order to achieve peace, it is necessary to develop the very guarantees that you said and that president putin talked about. that's how only guarantees will be. worked out, put into a contract with all the necessary parties attached, this will be sufficient conditions to terminate the

operation . well, of course, achieving its goal. i will not repeat them. by the way, the interesting interpretation of medvedev and the motives for carrying out the so-called special military operation in ukraine is still a little synchronicity. so that the third world war does not happen. and why, for one simple reason, if ukraine received support and joined nato, and then one of the crazy rulers of ukraine would start a military operation against russian territory

, for example against crimea, this would mean the beginning of the third world war, the vital interests of russia are already in good hands. does not decide, but his role is still very similar to the role of volodymyr zhirinovsky, or as they say in the ukrainian people, what is in the mind of a sober person is in the mind of a drunk person, or vice versa, what is in the mind of a sober person what medvedev is saying about some additional guarantees that we are holding back the third world war as much as we can, but at the same time we are killing ukrainians, er, they are probing, i understand the ground, and they are still trying to incline

the world to some certain negotiations and in this difficult situation, when today the armed forces of ukraine launched an attack on the kherson oblast. what the armed forces of ukraine are reporting. they are trying to save face and say that give us peace and with some good mine just leave ukraine, we are here suffered already enough sergey, i will say one more decision about belarus to finish this, i think it is very important where, and by the way, lukashenka is already a competitor for zhirynovsky's legacy there, he is also trying to jump in the price, but i do not expect the belarusians that they will drown against russia well, they are really different, but for us it is very important. they were drowning against joining russia, against being simply swallowed up by russia, and this is really

for us also a vitally important issue, here medvedev was trying to talk about vital important questions, but now you looked at this shot, which was just shown to you, it does not remind you of medvedev's pose. it is very similar to the way putin is sitting, but i really want to become his successor. yes exactly exactly in such a position as putin likes to give interviews pay attention it is actually very, very funny now in terms of content it is interesting that medvedev started talking about security guarantees, that is, for a certain time they tried to play with these questions, then they forgot then they started talking again well, the third world is what it

is, that is, they actually started it, and we understand it perfectly, and in the end they wanted a new molotov-ribbentrop pact, the german chancellor told us directly that putin wants to draw a pencil to divide the line in europe, this is mine and this is conditionally yours and this is how we will live and it doesn’t work either, well, the history there has never been agreed upon with people already in the 21st century not even in the 20th, although russia lives at most in the 20th and in fact still before and looks inguly we are beautiful we understand that this is the ideology on which this not-so empire is built, an empire that did not happen and there are no other options, but what they say is that nato guarantees are not guarantees but for and for us ha