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in connection with this information, they asked me to provide some more or less concrete data, in your opinion, is there a danger that this will be a systematic practice, because this and several cases before that with similar signs have already been recorded due to the persistence of our diplomacy and proving the fact that this is a violation of the convention of the convention by the way, in principle, if the question arises, the ruba should not, no, no, i would give more chances to the fact that she will agree not to pass any more, but as soon as the attention is less or the political pressure and communication is less intense, of course, as the cases with e-e grain show, they will turn a blind eye to such things, that is, systematicity and consistency and the use of all possible channels of influence and communication with the turkish
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side are important here, and on the other hand, to say that there are so many weapons left in syria which they can take out and use in the war, it is not possible there, there were not enough large reserves, on the other hand, this shows that despite the huge numbers of the same s300 that they are now using not as anti-aircraft complexes land air a-a against us the city of mykolaiv for example land land their by er and even their official data there is a lot it turns out that there are not enough of them and we have to drag to syria what was there because obviously other complexes are not ready and have not been serviced are not in working condition. thank you very much serhiy serhiy danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, because we are in touch with a person with whom you can always talk objectively
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about the south of our country, including and now the time of the chronicle of the information war with olga leni ms. ol, congratulations and we invite you to the floor. congratulations to khrystyna and antin. well, literally in a moment we will start on russian tv. more and more often there is an acknowledgment that the attack on ukraine did not go as planned. and as planned . ukrainskogo escapes and ukraine meets russia from the stern - this is the fate of washington, i analyzed a lot of laughs. yes, but the situation , unfortunately, it went completely wrong to develop these events yes, it will not end in a
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few weeks or months, this is what we expected, please, the typhoon of a large-scale energy crisis that arose in europe, and in the 10th series, the inhabitants of the old world began to massively sign up for firewood, for example, in germany, due to the booming demand for wood fuel, there was an island deficit like seven firewood so are fireplaces and stoves. and the price for them has risen several times. the bourzhujika is becoming a new european trend of the 2022.2023 season. well, there is a problem of firewood for everyone. there is clearly not enough salvation. freezing in winter it will be the hands of those freezing personally i ordered a diesel generator i believe that this winter we will face interruptions in the supply of electricity that we will have to deal with on our own we will know when
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winter comes it will be very cold and i feel that it will be even worse than now resident of the british capital jennifer jones is a school teacher, she looks through electricity bills and doesn't know where to get money to pay for them. i think i've developed depression. money like grandpa scrooge in order to ensure a decent old age, but i will imagine myself as a german, and i will spend the accumulated money to pay gas and electricity bills, well, we have already jumped a little, eh, this is actually how the russians continue to imagine eh, what what should they do in this situation? they are basically preparing their population for a protracted war and isolation in the world of russian propagandists. ukraine has long since capitulated to nato. they did not force ukrainians to fight. well, here it is obvious that the russians are broadcasting their own their ideas about themselves, er, because they are willing to
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rob and kill, they are in no way irresistible to the aggressor , but otherwise, er, they are moving to longer strategies, their long strategies have several elements before, this is primarily to destabilize the western countries themselves, to destabilize them because of what you saw, i.e. by scaring them with social explosions, provoking these social explosions, they are now very active, they are using their entire agency not just to broadcast in the western media, here and there, all the narratives you heard about the fact that there is literally not enough for anything, there are a lot of bills, depression, everything is there, pensioners will spend everything ah , but also uh, doing direct riots , that is, trying to provoke some strikes , some uh, rallies, so far it is not so obvious, but they very, very much hope that with the coming of winter and with
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the coming of some greater difficulties, these were all very actively developed. ukraine is it some country that is literally so terrorist, that organizes terrorist acts here , this is a provocation at a nuclear power plant, they are now actively spreading the second option - this is the actual murder of daria dudina, who was killed by the fsb, but which they are actively trying to do. in the west to sell as such a terrorist act on the part of ukraine, well, they also have very bright expectations there, which, for example, is constantly expressed there by our former compatriot of kyiv, see a similar position on the recognition of this
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the criminal regime will be supported by terrorists. the whole world is not the leveled immoral part of humanity that today is called the democratic west, and the whole world is in china. and why china, india, brigs, where can we now list dozens of countries that today stand shoulder to shoulder with russia and are ready to stand up to this terrorist madness? actually, this is this, this is this, all this rhetoric is aimed at limiting aid to ukraine, weapons, other, well , other elements of the strategy - this is destabilization inside ukraine itself, and there was practically no six months there are no such active actions here, and in fact, the only one that has appeared now is this story, when a column of thousands of believers of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate
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marched through a bunch of regions to the holy mountains of the assumption pochaiv lavra from khmelnytskyi region through ternopil region volodymyr trush of the ternopil regional state administration said that there are about 5,000 people moving in the colony and they had to catch them a little bit out of bounds, and the mass of the local councils simply did not allow them to pass, and they say that it is allegedly an organized column of people is not identified, the police provide security, and the uoc mp themselves refuse to take responsibility for these believers, although representatives of their church are present in the column, and it is clear that the basis of destabilization is most likely to be used in this case. the structure of the moscow patriarchate, which has not changed in any way for all these six months, and continues to subvert
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ukraine they also did something here. well, the main thing is that they are basically trying to cause a split within the ukrainian government and within the ukrainian society and the last game, which is now being broadcast on all russian tv channels for a few days, he is like this, listen carefully, he is watching, he cleans up the competitor and even he is true councilor arestovych announced her desire to run for president, and now the european mass media will read the receivers of the general. his name , valery, means not only from the point of view of the soldiers, but also for a significant part of the population, and the current president zelensky is not too happy with the assumptions that the general may someday move to the presidential palace, how do the russians see why it should suddenly work, but again, what is possible for you
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we have too much of him today. well, you already know. it's not my fault that the russians are dragging him on all the airs of various tv channels. he's just non-stop talking about what should happen there. look at the iranian world and you're playing a new color for us. can be added to such a piece of territory from the sweat of the southeast with the intensification of the economic crisis with growing discontent, you just need to lower the park and this increasingly toxic prankster will stop killing interesting people and he will never come there, as here, get out of the hostage, this is a team representative poroshenko and the most important thing is that he understands
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so many americans and englishmen. so let's talk about these strategies and these narratives promoted by russian propaganda with igor solovey - this is the head of the center for strategic communications and information security is a fellow journalist who has also been watching russian propaganda for a long time. greetings igor. well, actually, is this something original, and if there are any new movements in this, please tell me what do you see in this story, which is now being promoted by russian propaganda, well , after such a detailed analysis of russian propaganda to the west and to the domestic ukrainian audience that you did, it’s difficult to add something, we are also observing, in addition to this, the growth of such
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trends when, surrounded by relatives of our soldiers , there are messages like, er, why are our guys and not others? well, why are the guys from this brigade, and not others, going to the front line, er, the story continues, our guys are naked and barefoot, not having to fight, and their are thrown into battle and there are a lot of such stories that are played on which are directly related to military events in one or another place, it is hot somewhere, it is calmer and oh-oh-oh group by group of relatives we see that some characters appear who start to say that this is ours the guys are thrown on naked wasps for abrasion. but
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there, the neighbors say, uh, they are not involved, that is, there is a game of division between the divisions. well, of course , the direction of work within society is before the winter and before the fruits. and about the fact that the whole of ukraine will freeze, and money, by the way military money and the military are not paid and then there will be no money to pay er, basically if we sum it all up, having lost to such a strategic and even tactical level, russian propaganda begins to work er more intensively on at such a tactical level, directly with uh people in some local places, my illustration is
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that you said separate units, but i'm trying to somehow provoke some riots there, and this well, i even saw that people who uh, as if they tried in certain units to sow treason there in the telegram channel, it was like they were spreading something. what should be surrendered, then they appear on russian tv as those who surrendered and were suddenly released home, well, that is, it is simple and it is of course clear that from the beginning this person it wasn’t just that she was there in this unit. she was just there. well, it’s as if she was involved, but that’s what they’re trying to do. why are our guys and not ours on russian tv? individual e-e nations or ethnic groups to raise to say that no, they are
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somehow special. they have to somehow be separate. look, please . within the framework of mobilization, including if necessary. i think that hungary has every reason to take on the protection of its compatriots living in zakarpattia in the event of force majeure when kiev loses control and centralized management of the state. well, this is the next iteration after they first spread rumors and they continue, it must be said, they will start investigating in the occupied territory that poland is about to take over ukraine and they have already introduced zlotys in the western regions in stores now the next such circle is now hungary has to seize something, i.e. an attempt to introduce such a certain
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split within european countries and show that ukraine has no allies among its closest neighbors from my point of view yes yes i apologize for hungary is actually nothing new, we have been watching it since the 14th year, and the russians have been trying and playing about this hungarian card for 8 years. miracles, but in reality they do not succeed. that is why, as they say, they are not yours. that is why you are not yours and that is why you are running away . nothing works out in them, my fellow student he himself is ethnic, he says he fought there for several years starting in the 14th year and is fighting now. that is why they are not successful and they are trying to encourage it in the media, but in fact the success of this story is not the greatest, after all, they are trying to me so
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it seems, i have the impression that, in fact, russian propaganda is now rolling back to those gb of hybrid practices that they did from the 14th to the 22nd year, that is, when they tried to influence more er and disturb er western societies to show there eyes ot everyone there er-er remember the yellow vests and everything else and you will stir up the domestic ukrainian society to fragment it and somehow force it to some kind of uh, well, more capitulian practice and the only new one. it seems to me that there is some kind of touch in all this that is now uh russian propaganda, that's what i was showing at the beginning of the program, it is about zelenskyi, these days, how do they allow zelenskyi's entourage and zelenskyi himself as
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an object of propaganda, this seems to me to be a somewhat new practice, because before they spoke more there disturb the society, remember there were talks there, the third maidan, something else. and now they are trying to cause a split personally directly, well, in the relations between the leadership of ukraine. how do you think it is? 16th year, when ideas were also published in russian propaganda about an alleged military junta that would overthrow the ato and overthrow poroshenko , then the surnames appeared. well, let's not name the surnames of these honorable generals. but such an alleged military junta was also talked about
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then there was no merit then there were other surnames , that is, what i am talking about, the methodology has not changed , only the surnames and the methodology have changed, this is called dividing the master, they hope to cause a split between the top military and political leadership, and in order for this leadership of the forces to fight against the external enemy is the enemy and with the internal eh. unfortunately, some internal political processes in ukraine and without russian propaganda eh. they provide a good good ground for this, but at the level of the top senior management there, so far we see that everything calmly and diligently and zelenskyy repeatedly stated that there is no in them there is a different different reading of the situation, especially from my
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sources, as far as i know, the honorable general does not have any political ambitions, first of all the war before the forces of ukraine as such, you know the force with which it is necessary to negotiate that there are some separate nazis and there are the armed forces of ukraine, do you remember even putin's speech was about the fact that we are addressing - i am addressing something to the armed forces of ukraine, you have to do something separately there and now they are repeating it again the last statement of the deputy chairman of the russian security council , dmitry medvedev, is what it sounds like, that the russian-ukrainian conflict has everything, as he says , one and a half scenarios: the first achievement of all the goals of the russian military operation in ukraine and the unequivocal recognition of its results, and the second scenario of a military coup again . says in ukraine, and only then the recognition of the results of
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special operations. to be honest, i cannot imagine that the ukrainian military could reach any kind of agreement with russia, that is, on the contrary, well, on the contrary. i cannot understand where they get it from. just to explain, because we showed the previous couple of minutes ago, we showed a nod that there with a marker, uh, on the maps, draws, cuts off some pieces . here is a demonstration of what kind of advisers they have, the people who shape public opinion on television , and similar people have already fled. earlier there in 14-15 to russia and all kinds of yemeni zakharchenko, i.e. all the cream of the crop, generals. they think the same, that ’s why they appeal to the power bloc, that’s why they
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hope that this category will be able to become an alternative to the political leadership, but this means that they don't know ukraine well, they didn't know ukraine well during the time of their leadership , now being outside of ukraine, they also don't know well, and this is our advantage that we can wait further. what do you think , that is, it is obvious that some methods of influence will be involved, well, besides that, that is, we will er, we can say that, moreover, we know that as a method, there is also an influence on some kind of demoralization and on, well, first of all, even the military, er, they are trying to hold a trial over azov, you know. by the way, i see that it is not very good for them because they really wanted to arrange something and you arranged the cages in the mariupol drama theater
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and were supposed to do it right on independence day , nothing happened. do you have any explanation ? i mean, what should happen next with regard to russian propaganda in general or specifically with regard to this case? well, and regarding this. well, if we take it as a whole, of course, all the activities of russian propaganda should be divided into strategic, tactical and operational levels, that is, at the strategic level, they they continue to split will continue to split the unity of ukraine with the west is he talking about the fact that ukraine has already received a fairy tale uh, that ukraine does not need to be given weapons, that the west is tired of uh, ukraine as a whole and ukrainian refugees, that the west is suffering from alleged help there
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to ukrainians due to the fact that the prices of energy supplies and other products have risen there, the second level is tactical, at the tactical level, the russians continue to look for some loopholes in ukrainian society, which we have already discussed with you, and the situation on fronts and the economic state and well and other moments and the religious situation in ukraine, that is, to single out some small element and inflate it to unprecedented heights. well, the tactical level - these are of course such stories as with the azov people plus propaganda. in the newly occupied territories, the situation there is more black- white, because in the newly
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occupied territories, russian propaganda cannot exist by itself, it is not effective by itself, it can exist only in combination with russian weapons, that is, the russians are trying to to make such conditions when er ukrainians will have no choice, they will have stockholm syndrome with er rapist and ukrainians will accept the situation, i.e. they are already starting to tell in those newly occupied territories that we say russia has come here forever that hmm there is no need to hope there on release, let's start the children in school, and bring something interesting, they are those who refuse to spend, they are burdened with fines, and those who decide to bring children to school are promised some payments , that is, in fact, we see that voluntary
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there is no voluntary participation in this process. and actually , in which territories, such as luhansk, will the referendum be held? it is also demonstrated in every way, despite the fact that being under russia brings some benefits, uh, another potemkin village is being built on camera, some new institutions are opening, for example, an interesting story is opening in mariupol svetlofor opened, that's already a big one, that's all i have, and they will release such stories, but i repeat myself once again without a russian machine gun. and this propaganda has no basis, there is no basis for life. well, what about me? they are generally trying now, if you say so,
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in general, to return to their practice, you know, not everything is so obvious, but with the beginning of their attack, everything became very obvious, that is, it is absolutely clear that there is one black, one white, and there are no such transitions, and by the way, this their attempt to organize a court for the people of azov is me. i believe that this is an element of the promotion of this strategy, not everything is so obvious because they are trying to prove that it was not only the russians who destroyed mariupol and destroyed the people of mariupol, but ot look, the azov people there also did it, that is , they all defended the city together, and all they did there was defense. well, it just goes beyond the scope of all this, but what is interesting is that even under these conditions, they cannot arrange it they just don't have enough arguments at all. well, there are simply no arguments for
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him. there's nothing to say. it seems to me like this, and if you say it more broadly, most likely, they still don't have enough arguments to talk about what. well, they can be somehow normalized as a country and how in general well, i, as you know, the power that should be in the world in general. well, that’s good . unfortunately, it’s time. i thank you. it was igor solovei, what a center for strategic communication and information security. this is a very long conversation and it is constantly here. there are some new twists in this plot, but in any case, when we talk about the propaganda of the russians, we must understand that they are always looking for something that is a little undefined, a little
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unclear, a little something like that, you know why not only in the actions of society, in the actions of the authorities, in the actions of certain individuals, and therefore it is very important to correctly and quickly place the emphasis and immediately say that this is right and that it is wrong in order to remove any possibility of playing with contradictions we will meet today. well, we will see each other in a couple of days . who are you? they are hunting for washing machines, and we are from ukraine and we insure our cars online on the hotline, the price of the hotline, finance, insurance, of course, online, if you have an allergy, the drug citrine will help to free your breath . and get rid of itchy eyes and watery eyes -
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