er, it is wrong and useless er for the dnipro of the ukrainian state, so far, in the end, how is the russian diaspora in canada conducted? i think that today er, the attitude in canada is absolutely pro -ukrainian er, i think that er, in canada, it is possible that we are the strongest superstructure of ukrainian organizations, namely the canadian congress of ukrainians, which has a very powerful voice in canada, is very convincing, and i think that in canada, the vast majority of the canadian population admits that today russia is conducting an unprovoked eh and eh gen. is waging one war against the ukrainian people

and i support the ukrainian people, we see it in various aspects, it is evident in the statements, we conduct it in the resolutions of the parliament of canada as a resolution that recognizes that russia now eh is fulfilling the acts of genocide in ukraine, we are conducting raw eh pages of various organizations and annual enterprises that are ready to help ukrainians who come to canada, so the attitude towards the ukrainian people, the attitude towards ukraine is very positive eh and the attitude towards russian aggression eh is very negative, but the attitude itself. i asked you about the russian community that lives in canada. that is, it will also be, i think that those

communities are pro-russian, no matter where they live, many of those communities continue to support them, just as they do in russia is supported, if not clearly, at least by those imperial plans and measures of the kremlin, how to get a russian person out of russia, but it is difficult for russia to get a person out of russia. the rest also returned to his first question , yevgeny, after all, we know that, for example, in the 14th year, there are many well-known, for example, americans, or there , i don’t know, ukrainian origin, not ukrainian origin, lithuanian citizens, well, that is, for example, they came to the government, and it seems to me that they brought a lot with them, but they

had to do it, for example, in exchange for renouncing american citizenship. well, in the case for example , natalia yaresko or, in the case of ulyana suprun , and these and these are the people who carried out major reforms, huge and important reforms. i am only pointing out that there are still many barriers to to attract the intellectual potential of the ukrainian diaspora in transparent open competitions for the highest positions in the civil service, and it seems to me that these very barriers that were put in place in 1990, 31-32 years ago, are, to put it mildly, obsolete and they do not protect the country if they had to protect against such cases when in the 14th year at the beginning of the war with russia the minister of defense turned out to be a citizen of the russian federation and an outright

traitor . including this potential of the diaspora - the indigenization that i lead, namely, the public organization of ukraine in 2050, they made calls before the full-scale war of russia against ukraine to grant dual citizenship to those who can contribute to the development of the ukrainian state but not only to give dual citizenship, but in the law where dual citizenship is given, to give that opportunity to citizens of other countries who want to come to ukraine, who want to help in the development of ukraine, to give them that opportunity and those the barriers that you are talking about should be abolished so that

, especially today, after such a destructive genocidal war against the ukrainian people, it would be possible for all ukrainians as a whole, those who are capable and willing in the first place to help in the development of ukraine, to give them that opportunity and to facilitate this and to abolish all barriers that do not allow ukrainians to competent ukrainians to help in the development of the ukrainian state . 2050 president of the world the congress of ukrainians in 2008-2018 and the head of the permanent international media monitoring mission regarding disinformation about ukraine and the ukrainian diaspora was with us now from canada we will move to the

czech republic where rostyslav khotyn, a journalist of radio svoboda, is in prague for the second day of the informal meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs and defense of the european union and we'll ask him what they talked about the car today well, today it's like that they're getting together and they're already starting their meeting with the minister of foreign affairs and the minister of defense on the contrary are concluding their two-day meeting, the main points for the ministers of defense and foreign affairs together, it is possible a training mission of the european union for ukraine against the background of the war, because the european union wants to help ukraine, how about this in european diplomacy , jose borel says that some kind of mission is needed for ukraine, even more that ukraine itself aspires to the european union and is fighting now not only for itself for europe, also the second point is that visa restrictions are discussed, but so far there is no consensus , that is, that ukraine wants a complete visa ban for

citizens of russia to travel to europe to the schengen zone, so far it has not passed, and borel spoke against it and made it clear that he does not support it, and france and germany had a good document, they published where they believe that it is precisely trips to europe for russians that serve of the transformational mission, it is possible to transform russians into normal people, so to speak, when they encounter european life, european democracies , therefore, despite the war , neither france nor germany sees grounds for a complete ban for the trips of the russians, hey, i spoke with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kulev. he just argues that this thesis is about the fact that in russia there is only one bad putin, one bad kremlin, and the russians themselves are not to blame, they are simply victims of this russian regime, this is his thesis the opinion does not stand up to criticism because

russian troops are fighting and killing ukrainians in ukraine, russian soldiers who are citizens of russia they have their relatives who support their special so-called operation and in fact aggression against ukraine they too a citizen of russia, russian society in general is silent. well, i can’t say that he is asleep, but in principle he is silent about the war. polls support russian aggression against ukraine. what does he think that this ban should be possible ? maybe we don’t know. we have to wait for tomorrow. maybe it will be. some kind of compromise was reached there, such as the cancellation of the simplified visa regime for citizens of russia by the eu, it was introduced in 2007 and provides for a smaller number of documents waiting for a visa and a lower price from 80 to 35 euros for a visa but again, the ukrainian side to whom minister polaba says that they launched this simplified visa regime in 2007, more russians went to europe, instead, russia attacked georgia in 2008 and started a

war against ukraine and annexed the crimea in 2014, he unleashed on the donbass, now he attacked ukraine in the 22nd year. so this simplified regime does not show that the russians are modernizing somehow, europeanizing themselves, that is, these are the debates so far, so we have to wait some more tomorrow, mr. ruslan, of those stars who are present on this form of politicians who mention ukraine. what can you possibly remember that you would like to say now? well, this is an interesting argument. the discussion about visas is very interesting at the level. it again shows that europe is not maybe, that is, europe can't unite. so far, there is no consensus, that is, it is possible, it is possible on this issue, or it is very important. that is, this is one of the options, ukraine believes . if this visa ban is complete for russians, it is one of the levers of influence on russia so that it ends put an end to its aggression in the war against ukraine

, that's why it's very important well, it shows again that europe everything starts as a discussion of any issue from different positions, well, since 27 countries have different opinions and different poles, but as previous experience with uh, these seven uh shows -th package of sanctions still reaches some common denominator europe is united, but not immediately well, maybe there are also hopes here, the western press wrote that it is possible that this ban will work sometime before the end of the year, that is, at least there are expectations that if not now, then later moreover, very strong pressure is being created by some scandinavian states, the baltic states and poland and the czech republic and others who are in favor of a complete ban, so for now this is a discussion that is very important for ukraine . negotiations between ukraine and the european union regarding ukraine's membership after

ukraine received candidate status in june, so he expects that it is possible next year when sweden will preside over the european union in the first half of next year, on the 23rd. maybe then ukraine will be able to start negotiations on membership here, and it is also interesting about nato . and without a passport, as the experience of finland, sweden shows, to those representatives of the countries of france and germany who say that it is not necessary to ban the issuance of visas for russians, i would offer such an exchange for russians from the murmansk region who have never traveled to europe to buy tickets there or do such an action humanitarian put them on a bus and take them to europe, and bring those who oppose the issuance of visas to russians to the murmansk region, somewhere against the issuance and the anti-ban, take them there so that they too can get acquainted, but not for one

day or two, but for a month so that they experienced the real russia, or at most, the impression will be enough for a few years to last a lifetime, e.e. thank you rostislav for the news of thirst. rostislav khotin , a journalist of radio svoboda, was with us and told us what was there , e.e., the minister of foreign affairs of the european union, e.e. we spoke today, we will hear further news tomorrow from there. well, for now, we have a conversation with volodymyr kreydenko, this is the people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on transport and infrastructure, and andriy osadchuk, people's deputy of ukraine and the first deputy chairman of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine issues of law enforcement together with us, and we welcome you gentlemen to espresso. and here we will actually ask what was passed and this is directly positive and negative, what may not have been passed and this may

there are some pros or cons to this today in the verkhovna rada such a short express analysis eh let's start everything from mr. volodymyr he is the ruling majority good day today was indeed a busy day of the plenary session was filled with various bills starting from the law on media and ending with the return of the excise tax on fuel, this is in the first reading these draft laws were adopted and these funds that will come from the return of the excise tax will be returned to the budget and accordingly we will be able to spend them as infrastructure and the army in relation to other draft laws, there were a number of appeals to the international community regarding the situation at the

zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. a-a maximum measures e-e regarding the prevention of a disaster that may e-e-e occur as a result of such actions taking place through the russian federation e thank you e for this concise summary andrii, maybe you want to add or comment on something. well, everyone has their own view on events, and that's natural. the meeting was full, it's true, it ended prematurely because the ruling coalition already lacked votes. several important draft laws failed. there were not enough votes for the law on the service in local self-government bodies was rejected, he was rejected , the draft law on changes to the fight against terrorism was rejected.

although i think that it is very right that we rejected the nonsense that we wrote after that the chairman decided that it was necessary to gather at the homes of everyone, according to me, we had not already considered five bills. of course, this is an important appeal. my colleague correctly says that there were several appeals today, and it was not only about the nuclear plant, but at the end, we had a document regarding the violation of international humanitarian law by the russian federation. this is an absolutely key story, because we all hope that we have already memorized this thesis that it is important not only to defeat the russian federation physically on the territory of ukraine, it is important not only to defeat them it is important to expel from the territory of ukraine a foreigner of 1991 and punish all war criminals. and in the language of international law, this is called a gross violation of international humanitarian law, and today the verkhovna rada emphasized this issue by addressing the world community of the

united nations and separately pointed out the azov regiment, which is the pride of ukraine and part of the armed forces to avoid any manipulation of this issue and of course the horror of the volyn residents where the mass execution of ukrainian defenders took place were in captivity as those things that need to be studied separately and that require a separate reaction from the world community. well, what ordinary citizens of ukraine should also easily understand and maybe it will please them, we agreed on changes to the state budget. and i also voted for these changes, although they are part of the coalition, but we support many important things in the state of war and we agreed to changes that made it possible to attract a loan from the canadian government for the additional purchase of gas to pass the heating season. i think it is not a secret for anyone that we are facing a very difficult heating season and

any additional financial resources that give us the opportunity to get more gas must be attracted. therefore, this was also voted on today and it is extremely positive. but in addition to all that, we are not only at war with the russian army, we are at war with the russian world, and today we voted in the first reading for the media law because that is what our european partners demand from us. but in that bill, well it seems that there are such sewn-in markers that do not distinguish us from the russian world. again, this russian world is closer to us . the ban on the broadcast of songs by russian artists on the radio and on television is actually canceled. quotas allow violation of ukrainian songs. the list of persons who

pose a threat to national the safety of such a so -called black list of artists has violated the norms, uh, why are they for us during european integration in this this media law, mr. volodymyr, are you at all, if the question is for me, i want to answer the eu directives clearly speak about the norms that are used in this bill on the media are really very debatable points and i remind you that this bill was passed in the first reading and in the second reading it is possible to correct all the issues that are debatable or clearly incorrect and for this there are the powers of all people's deputies , regardless of whether they are included in the conditions or not, and it is absolutely free to submit proposals for changes to the law and defend

it so that it is as balanced as possible in accordance with the directives, it was sent to protect both the ukrainian language and the ukrainian media, but it is necessary to understand that the directives used in this draft law are recommended by the european union and european legislation, that is, the european union says that the ban on broadcasting songs should be lifted of russian singers, the directive says that languages ​​other than ukrainian should be used , but that's why i'm convinced and i know that this does not apply specifically to the russian language, it can be the english language can be there and the crimean tatar language can be french, it is not necessarily a russian language, and i understand that

no one is in favor of returning the songs of chanson or russian pop stars to the radio in ukraine, and it is understandable that the majority in the parliament will defend the ukrainian language, ukrainian music and ukrainian culture, everyone has long forgotten about the russian language since the 24th, everyone has long forgotten about the russian language and long forgotten about the russian subculture, so no one knows it will not to defend, but there is a directive, there is a percentage, er, percentage is exactly the norm that should be applied in the law and it is applied, but no one forbids us people's deputies to change these norms and propose an optimal option that would satisfy and help us, including faster to adapt our legislation to european legislation and to become full

members of the eu faster. thank you mr. andrii, and you voted for this law in the first reading. explain your argument. mr. andrii voted for this law with the red button a. and i will explain why. well, my colleague volodymyr will surely not allow me to lie that one of such gangs, as they say in western ukraine, or the convocation of the verkhovna rada, we often vote in the first reading for an idea that can somehow be beautifully furnished there, and by the second reading they always say we will finalize it, although very often it is expensive the reading generally completely rewrites the bills, this is actually completely before the second reading, it is necessary to prove some small details , some by brand, and not change the fundamental things, not change the essence, but less, nevertheless, we have such a tradition today was a vivid example when, under the guise of european integration, this document about the media was dragged under vines again for the fact that there are directives,

but only that volodya correctly said to adapt the legislation, not to copy, but to make, not to copy, but to adapt, the context is always very important, and in ukraine, this context in relation to language policy regarding the policy of e-e broadcasting, it differs, i'm sorry , from the context in italy, france or portugal, which live only in a peaceful life and do not have the realities that exist in ukraine. that is, it is absolutely issues of principle are not simply the defense of the interests of the ukrainian language or ukrainian culture, these are issues of national security in which , i'm sorry, they are simply stupidly ignored because it is covered up with rhetoric about the need for european integration. i have been watching european integration for 20 years and i know how many disgusting things were done under the guise of european integration by voting in the verkhovna rada and, unfortunately, i am forced to state that today's vote is a very bad vote because, believe me, our european

allies know everything very well and everything is fine too understand, if someone thinks that this vote brought us closer to european standards, then they are very mistaken, because it already happened, it was like that, today i announced at the first reading, and i want to inform you that for the first time in the three years of the work of this verkhovna rada, the verkhovna rada voted to extend the terms of granting of rights, as a rule, the servants of the people shorten this term to make everything faster , but here even stefanchuk admitted and the president admitted that the situation is so critical that let's extend the deadline for providing amendments because that's how it looks that we will have to rewrite this law in the second reading, but once again we have that we have the law voted, i voted against it, and in my opinion, all my colleagues from the vote also voted against it, and so before the reading, we will now be forced to rewrite it and defend our not just national interests and cultural interests. and the issue of protecting the issue

of national security, if it is possible, yes, if it is possible, i would add p. andriy says that the deadline has been extended - this does not mean that the draft law is bad, but it means that we enable everyone to the subjects of the legislative initiative to all the subjects eh who eh who are regulated by this draft law about the media submit your suggestions submit your corrections and i think a month is enough to process this draft law the regulations prohibit us from completely rewriting and changing the philosophy of the draft law but no one forbids it to be revised, and andrii is correct in saying that all people's deputies will be able to submit their proposals and defend them at the committee and then in the hall of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, how do you feel, sir? andriy, will it be possible to defend

all that and throw out all that, on the contrary, that unites ukraine not with europe but with russia? it is correct that the regulation prohibits, but unfortunately we have already had dozens of cases when they were rewritten into the bill before the second reading, unfortunately this is a fact and this in fact, sometimes the essence of the deputy's work generally degrades because, in fact, the second reading is considering another document, and now, instead of improving a quality document, we will be forced to fight against the absolutely disgraceful principles embedded in it. i think a lot depends now er, not only from the deputies who will submit amendments. i want to draw your attention to the fact that according to the regulations , again, only deputies have the right to submit amendments, no other subjects of this plenary have these powers, but i think that the public is still of great importance the resonance of the media ukrainian independent media still proceed from the fact that in ukraine there is freedom of speech despite

certain restrictions introduced in connection with the martial law, but now, during this extended period, the decision to amend the media the community must emphasize very loudly that this is not the case, that is why we will work with the project , but i would also like the media to constantly remind and explain to people that there have already been numerous cases when public pressure gave its results and the same servants of the people, such as the monocoalition changed their opinion, so i think that everyone was simply faced with the difficult task of finalizing this document for the second reading. as my colleague says, he gave us a month, a month - this is enough time for everyone to commit to it. in fact, the only thing i will say is that mr. andrii, uh, said that we don't really have a coalition, well, at least officially, and volodymyr can't deny it, but i'll just

draw attention to it that when we had the majority , so when we have a vote a bill with 300 or more votes of support. in principle, i don't care if there are votes of deputies in the fire, but without their help, some controversial bill would not pass. i think that this is always a bell when you have to think about whether it really it does not carry risks, does it really take into account the national interests, the interests of democracy in ukraine , and i will remind you that the latest polls show that more than 60, 64% of ukrainians believe that ukraine should remain a democratic country, this is the highest indicator of support for democracy, in fact or not in the entire history of ukraine. well, literally you know the line, if you allow the car, no one forbids other people's deputies to express their position and vote eh, there are really many bills that are supported by the european eh eu and voice

supports the draft laws and other groups. there is trust in the future and for the future and the rest of these groups, no one can prevent them from expressing their position in the hall of the verkhovna rada and supporting or not supporting this or that bill, we really have a democracy our hall is really united by the idea and mission of protecting ukraine and the defense of its territorial integrity, and for this purpose everyone applies, even those who may not have wanted it, but they understand that apart from ukraine , we have no other country and we are defending our own we protect the country and our people, and we have to knock out the russian federation from abroad, which were uh, uh, 1991 ago, uh, uh, we definitely all work together, and i would

n't count the votes there, whether it's more for this or less for that, everyone works and everyone is united by one support of our armed forces and the support of the people, and this is our place and the legislative process is going on and the laws are different, it cannot be such that all laws are either supported or not supported, democracy is precisely about these laws being discussed and then determined what interesting what opzj voted for the law of what european integration project is, although european integration is something they don't like very much, andriyev's valves, we have one minute, literally, you have a word, uh, we have democracy, that's why we had a democratically elected verkhovna rada, she was a democratically elected president, and we are now we have to fight for democracy , but the main thing here is not to change concepts and look