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more than 50 thousand kilometers behind the wheel driver maksym every day transports loads and transports again and every day he says i am not tired i am not tired of defending ukraine the usual tv channel the usual hour the usual host my name is yuriy fizar this means that on the espresso tv channel the sweet program during the war as you remember we go on the air every monday at about 12:13 in order to in order for me to talk to my guests about what is happening in the world, possibly related to ukraine, and maybe, for example, today one of the topics will not be related to ukraine, but there are very parallels, so see us on mondays.

the one who watches us on the air espresso thank you for what you do for a living in order to know what to give us, and besides, it is very important for the promotion of the program on youtube, they have such a complex algorithm that is not very clear to me, but people who understand it more as they say the more the more the more likes, the more comments, the more shares, the more we are watched. okay, enough talking , i introduce my first guest, this is ilgar v elizade, an azerbaijani political scientist, mr. ilgar. i congratulate you. hello, thank you for joining and er, answer the questions that i will ask you now i will say a few words in ukrainian for our viewers so that they understand what we will be talking about

to talk. well, such a difficult topic is quite difficult for us, for er, it is possible for armenians, but as i see now, it is not difficult for azerbaijanis. so, a few days ago, the russians announced that they were giving up the lachyn corridor, which is such a very narrow corridor that separates the armenians from the so-called nkr and they give it away, they remove all the roadblocks they had there, well, the russian peacekeepers, so to speak, remove all the roadblocks and leave there immediately , the azerbaijani army entered there, because as we know, this is the territory of azerbaijan, they already control it as far as i understand, the two villages and the city are laches and now they will probably continue to do something there, mr. valizade, i have a

question . what is your question? the azerbaijani army has entered the power corridor. for the time being, the so-called power controls the so-called language, the so-called nkr , without a doubt. a part of the state territory of the republic of azerbaijan, ours here, uh, if the beauty of this lace corridor is uh, and in general , pay attention to the definition of nagorno-karabakh . the artificial announcement was uh-uh implemented uh-huh at the dawn of soviet power, which is called in order to show the territory that uh-huh means advantages for that forward on the armenian tv series

therefore, i think that we, uh, means last year we created the karabakh economic region, and uh, look at the territories in the compartment - this is the lower caravan, which is karabakh, that is, the historical territory of azerbaijan, therefore, uh, according to the logic of things, of course, everything the territory should be controlled by azerbaijan you probably heard that when i asked you a question, i didn't speak in nagorno -karabakh. this name is unmentionable because all this is left in the past, so there are remnants of the regime, this is a misunderstanding. unfortunately, i owe a lot to our society. the activity narrows and

the return of the nach corridor how does he say about it i hope that the nearest one will be eh through his transmission even this name will not be mentioned in the way eh will not no it will not be necessary in this but i think so too and mr. jack and tell me, please. how is that? reacted to the fact that russia, well, you can say that it surrendered this region in ereva to karaba - this is no longer karaba, how did she react to the misunderstanding you were talking about? and what are they saying in baku? azerbaijan had to build an alternative to this external corridor on its territory, which was

connected by a highway connected with humanitarian goals to armenia with the territory of armenians in the territory of karabakh azerbaijan fulfilled its mission, but look at what was happening, and the armenian side did not even hurry to build on its territory, this is a gift plot that would connect the new latin corridor, the new road - this is the armies, i don't know what they were hoping for a miracle, i don't know on what on someone in the course of the circumstances with the guarantee that this is the road of disorganization. when we built our road and offered the peacemaker to switch to a new one, of course they are . and here is the armenian side. i know that we are building a road, we are not talking about it once. well, we thought that the russian peacekeeping functions

were being taken away. этот э-э участок azerbaijan will not be transferred, well, this did not happen, eh, to be honest, the russian operator does not matter where they stand, what kind of road they stand, and that's when i said something extra for 7 rastvol of steel. - then incomprehensible threats er began to burn houses that, incidentally , do not belong to er the fox will destroy the territory of azerbaijan. well, this is the greeting of the azerbaijanis. unfortunately, part of the houses were actually destroyed. part of the forests burned down. eh, on credit, 20 outbreaks of new fires, eh, it was possible to do it , and the latichesky corridor passed under our office.

as for solemnly, you know the share, this is the transfer of the situation in general, it says what kind of share the separatists, dear separatists, have their share , that's how they generally accept someone's decision. is an instrument in the hands of the old age and of course it is needed by people who are, well, let's say this is how you start the separatists, ordinary, ordinary people suffer the most and by the way, they speak in a latin corridor, and that's what happened they do it, and the people who were illegally settled there turned out to be temples and in the end, well, let's say that this whole bunch of problems inhabiting the series , again, this is the only time they talked about the fact that any separatism in what quality and in what diagraphy

did not happen eh последствие sad first of all for the local residents of the year and tell me please what do you think and why and the russian me-russian peacekeepers left the latin corridor well, uh, what was left for them to do let's see if the russian peacekeepers let's say so, uh, they didn't leave this corridor, let's say a set of interests would happen, how did the tension at the point of military-political tension in the region of goloba rossiiskoi he is a peacemaker, he is a road connecting a strategic road connecting armenia, it is a population, it is meat, sergey karabakh, and we provided this road, so they calmly moved on to the second gift. the problem is that

the separatists presented the situation and could not imagine that the russian the peacekeeper will be protected by the separatist, they will protect these people who lived there illegally, but no, their function turned out to be russian. they choose a more pragmatic solution than er let's say that the killers that were left with the separatists from the heads er by the way i told you interesting things i will tell you the day before er the day of the russian federation was turned off so that's what they did they er didn't come up with anything good how did they weave it, so this is a hundred-meter-long russian blank on the territory of kharkiv, they did not defile it, it is visible with the expectation that someone there will burst into tears and he will somehow be disturbed to say well, he does not leave this noble word well, let's say so

pragmatically minded let's say yes and uh decided to find it well, that means such things well, let's say yes and yes, and creative moments don't switch and engage in thematics they must believe eh main yes a and protect the road lisa for the russians left only from the lachinsky corridor or or they are still present somewhere on the territory of azerbaijan, and they are yes they er-er means it was created to a tripartite declaration er-er carries out its activities in the zone er-er let’s say temporary arrival on the territory of karabakh well what is their mission their main mission protects the civilian population, i don't know who they are protecting them from, we are not going to destroy anyone, etc. well, the main mission in

this prison is separatist, these are the military units that are there they still continue to operate unfortunately, eh they should not be protected by russian peacekeepers, and we hire russian peacekeepers to understand that this is not their mission to protect the separatist regime . to form against the separatist banks, so i will tell you that we successfully carried out this operation , we called you together, we destroyed the military equipment there and so on, and the russian peacekeepers could not do anything about it, that is, they did not react to some. first of all, their mission is to read out peaceful people, and then we have a question for the russian peacekeeper in the following

manner. this is the same bank that was formed from the myagskogo. there are no parts. unfortunately, the armenian military era still continues there , only we have a question . but i think that you will solve these questions, mr. valet, we will ask my last question. and here i read that on wednesday a meeting is planned between the president of azerbaijan and ham aliyev , the prime minister of armenia, nikolo pashinyan, and the president of the european council, charles michel. what do you think about what they can talk about? well, you know . well, i agree with the information. well, let's say that it sinks into our minds. one of the main questions is the question of concluding a peace treaty between the azerbaijanis. the relations of all

countries should be built on the basis of this principle of international law, which, unfortunately, is often forgotten, and these principles should be the basis of this very peace treaty, that is, armenia will even recognize veterans of azerbaijan azerbaijan naturalness armenia does not interfere in internal affairs, it is not necessary to be a friend and eh let's say so eh, this opens up an opportunity both for breaking the blockade on this message and for demarcation of the delamination of the welding of the state border, this question will be discussed, the question of the transport message will be discussed the so-called kolyad railway and a corridor that will pass through the territory of armenia, which will connect the western part of azerbaijan with naftibas and the autonomous republic of azerbaijan and will to provide communications between the country of turkey and with the wounds and centers of the countries that are

located on the perimeter of azerbaijan, one is sufficient for the corridor that interests and for the european union because of the blocking conditions in this from russia to europe that connected, including, central asia with europe this communication is very promising for the connection of the european union with strange central asia, therefore, europe is very intentional about the implementation of this agreement. diagrale will still pass a new nargizicheskie corridor that will connect europe with the countries of central asia, rich in oil and gas, and in this sense, too , the peace agreement is playing out, it is possible to forecast these processes, direct growth to the peace, so that there are no votes, there are no conflicts, there are no negotiations for the organization these are all important alien and

transport projects. it is necessary to return the territories. it was elgar elizade, an azerbaijani political scientist. well, we are moving a little closer to ukraine, now we will talk mostly about belarus. i will ask a few questions in my next interlocutor. thank you for joining the program with you. to your country, that is, is there a threat from belarus? well , my first question is that you have heard. of course, what you have heard . a lot

of anger because from the side of belarus, well, national experts of the territory of belarus , russians flew over the territory of belarus. as far as i understand, they were russian military planes with missiles. to comment on the cynicism of alexander lukashenko , is it in his style, does he play along with putin or well, i don’t explain, well, this is a question about his mental and political and so on, we will say and what he so cynically allowed himself to express without understanding or maybe we all understand but we could maybe somehow trying after a little bit to isolate myself from what russia is doing from the territory of belarus against ukraine, i think maybe he is still good, i didn’t think about it, that is, he sent such a standard every year, he wished a peaceful sky, a clear sky to the ukrainians now again

sent and did not pay attention to what he is doing, let's say with the other hand, he signed with the other hand, then you are there explaining what he gave, that is, that not all nazis are in ukraine, that the nazis are only the top management, and that they are all normal people, and that he has some roots there , even in ukraine, that that's what he said, he didn't refute it, he explained his position well, but i wouldn't want to talk further in this conversation because well, there's no point in believing lukashenko's words, i very often appreciate it, i just put a minus on the contrary and understand that everything he said means nothing at all back well, this is the situation with this greeting. yes, but today, by the way, again, er, we are looking for what happened there, because yesterday, somewhere, 5 rockets were sent by russian planes from the territory of belarus, here 22 flew in and sent five rockets to the territory of the

rivne volyn region, here again the sky is so clear, well, look at another statement, you say that you don't have any attitude towards these statements, but there was a statement in which he said, it seems that he said on friday that there was a threat, and what about europe. if you do something in we now have a nuclear one weapons, our planes have been converted, we know where the decision-making centers are. and here is the russian tracing paper. we have a center where the decision-making centers are, and listen, that is, this statement should also be treated as you said, exactly the opposite, listen. he said about it that uh, su-24 planes equipped, as it were, with the means of transporting door weapons, and there have been no such aircraft in service in belarus for a long time, 20 12 years. they came out of service, let's say decommissioned. in fact, there are now su-25s, but these are also very outdated aircraft, it is unlikely that they

can transport nuclear weapons, and it is unlikely that russia needs it on belarusian planes, if they fly 22 of them here on the territory of belarus, it is a little poor yard like this , that is, i also treat it as a directory, but on the and to the territory so dangerous in general to talk about the fact that belarus can transport nuclear weapons is to violate the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons in general, to violate the constitution of belarus and further exacerbate the dangerous situation, this is irresponsible lukashenka's irresponsible statements and if we talk about it, we talked a lot because there were moments about it, there were many moments when it really seemed that the threat of such an attack from belarus was so serious now, well, there is no such threat, military exercises are held on the territory of belarus but as far as i understand now , at least now in the near future, the

belarusian troops there with the support of the russians or, on the contrary, the russians with the support of the belarusians, are not going to attack ukraine from the of the belarusian-ukrainian border, in your opinion, this issue can be closed because lukashenko somehow managed to get away with it and he does not listen to putin, or is this a threat? well, there may be a threat, it exists and will exist as long as lukashenko is in power and brought up children, including this threat, which was talked about a lot in kyiv, that it is possible here and also in belarus, e.e. soldiers on ukrainian territory at the moment, it is very if i think that it is not lukashenko, not soldiers, they are belarusian generals, they would not want this, they would like this as declared lukashenka to defend russia on its territory well, but will russia agree to this but why is one still relevant? well, because putin would definitely like to achieve something, somehow put pressure on lukashenka. and this will continue,

we don't know how the war will unfold, what will happen next i think that in general it depends , of course, on how ukraine and the ukrainian troops will act in the south and in the east . midnight in order to distract the ukrainian troops and so on, that is, this factor must be further taken into account. but at the moment it is not so dangerous. i mean the attack of the belarusian self-imposed forces. well, you said that this threat will exist as long as lukashenko is lukashenko. in power, two years have passed since the illegal elections in which he declared himself the president of belarus, and here it is two years and here it is from the side. at least from ukraine, it seems that he has been there for a long time .

whose failure is this? i would say that to the belarusian opposition of ordinary belarusians, or how much he still has left, if there is any left? well, you know, i wouldn't say that he feels confident. if he felt confident, then wouldn't you spend the horn? every day in belarus, those who are judged are those who we had protest rallies in the 20th year against election falsification and violence every day criminal cases are opened for people to be bullied next week there will be new trials for example against a journalist from state television who came to protest and tried to make some kind of alternative channel and state television, she has problems with brain oncology, but she has been detained since the 20th year in prison and will continue to be judged by this person who keeps herself in power , is it safe to say that no he is very insecure

. he takes revenge on everyone who left. he takes revenge on everyone who is in the opposition. in addition to the fact that there are more than 1,300 only officially recognized political prisoners in belarus, tens of thousands were forced to flee the country, and hundreds of thousands no less went through these repressions. in fact, tero is against the belarusian people, the belarusian people currently do not have such a force, let's say, the ability to somehow remove this new lukashenko from power, to remove him from power well, but it all depends on the belarusian people, first of all, he has to somehow find opportunities, here before the previous protests were peaceful, what will happen next we don't know, but i wouldn't give lukashenka some historical, let's say, room for maneuver, he is actually not legitimately elected, and the belarusian people support him because he is kept under

the power is only due to violence. and the security forces, i wish you in this belarusian people to overthrow him as soon as possible, but look at the opposition, spare two words. please tell me, is this opposition in exile, which lukashenko expelled by force ? from abroad, do you know if it is effective now , in contrast to previous such public conflicts in belarus after those elections there in 2005, there in the 15th and so on years. now a rather serious opposition center has been formed abroad, in particular, in lithuania, vilnius, poland, warsaw, and other places, there are such serious organizations as bypol, the association of former e-e security forces e-e and in various other, let's say so, branches and associations of the opposition, and there is a leader who is actually considered to be

svitlana tikhonovskaya and her office and managers won the falsified elections of the 20th year, that is, i would say that this is a unique situation for belarus that has arisen, and i think that in the case of some really or internally belarusian such events or such regional geopolitical changes then he will make claims about his claim to power to create a transitional government and return belarus to democratic development and where good neighbors to peaceful life, well, of course i wish you this to happen as soon as possible, let's talk a little about lukashenka's entourage, those people who now they work for him, are they working, are there any profits or are they still working? because they are afraid that if they don't work, they will be subject to some sanctions, and that's why they support lukashenka. i didn't hear the question very well, but it's about what those

the security forces working for lukashenka, or are all the security forces in the government small in general, and in the 20th year, let's say, there were no security forces, they were actually developed in the government and the security forces, the heads of the security structures there , even then lukashenko removed the head of the kgb and the minister of internal affairs and the investigative committee he suspended everyone at once because they did not act, they knew how the situation would go on and they were not ready for such an escalation of such violence as lukashenko did . there are no album they are serving or they will be. well , those people who were in the security forces , for example, went over to the side of the people and then went to prison, they were very cruelly punished there for up to 18 years, even uh, we are talking about such officers in the they received punishment, that is, they , he keeps them in fear well, and under well under well under

some kind of salary benefits and so on, but the main factor of lukashenka is fear of the terrible well, this is a factor of any dictator a-a p valery tell me, please last week i was in in the program, i spoke with the russian lawyer mykola polozov, i asked him this question about the russians, now about belarus, but what do ordinary belarusians think now, that is, for them, this is what is happening in ukraine - is it a russian special operation or is it a full-scale war? belarus is very seriously monitoring what is happening